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Apple Watch Series 5
- tdoggette 7y agoI like the compass! It's nerdy, but I like to carry one when navigating an unknown city, and I find it very helpful.
- et-al 7y agoUnfortunately my experience with the iOS compass in cities is that it's often confused. I wouldn't trust it too much.
- computerhouse12 7y agoDon't you already have a compass in your phone?
- bobbylarrybobby 7y agoMost of the Apple Watch features and apps are in the phone. Still nice to have them on your wrist.
- dsalzman 7y agoI wonder how they solved adding the magnetometer without interference with the magnets used for the charging cable?
- dzader 7y agodoes anyone know how this tech works - this might be worth buying for hiking if it will work in the middle of nowhere
- EForEndeavour 7y agoCompasses already work in the middle of nowhere, and last for more than 18 hours.
- Austin_Conlon 7y agoIs Google still committed to Wear OS? They're so far behind.
- bla3 7y agoI wish Apple would make their watch work with Android phones, similar to how they made iPods work with Windows computers way back when.
- toufka 7y agoOr make them independent of the phone. It looks like iOS 13 takes some steps towards that independence. I’d honestly like to have a watch instead of my phone.
- ashelmire 7y agoExactly. We want the watch instead of the phone, not in addition to. And I’d like them both to use the same account and number. Why don’t these companies get it? They’ll probably shut down the divisions and say “nobody wanted wearables” despite never having unchained them as consumers desire.
- Someone1234 7y agoAlternatively they could make their watch work without any phone (stand-alone). Right now you cannot even set up a new Watch device without an iPhone.
- shantly 7y agoI bet there are quite a few of us watching each of these announcements waiting for exactly that to happen, ready to click that buy button. The only thing I'd miss dropping to a watch + decent point-n-shoot instead of an iPhone is live photos, which are maybe the most important feature to me from the iOS ecosystem released in the last, oh, decade. Only reason I'd even hesitate to go watch-only.
- 7y ago
- msoad 7y agoHow does that ambient light sensor behind screen works?
- radicaldreamer 7y agoFinally with an always on display, but otherwise mostly a spec bump and new finish release.
- the_watcher 7y agoTitanium as an option is worth calling out as well. The navigation stuff seems like it could be more fully-featured in the future (would be cool to get Google maps-esque nav directions on my watch instead of keeping my phone in my hand, for example).
- briandear 7y agoYou can get turn by turn on Watch without a phone.
- the_watcher 7y agoBut can I look at my Watch, see the map and an indicator of the direction I'm currently facing? I assumed the directional indicator required an internal compass, but maybe I'm wrong.
- graeme 7y agoIt's not clear they did a spec bump. They didn't announce any new chip.
- twoodfin 7y agoThe spec sheet for the new Watch lists an S5 SoC vs. the S4 in the Series 4. Presumably they didn’t talk about it because all the performance gains were spent on battery life to make the always-on screen practical?
- p1esk 7y agoI really hope I can disable that always on display mode.
- michaelmior 7y ago> it’s easy to see the time and other important information, without raising or tapping the display > the screen intelligently dims when a user’s wrist is down and returns to full brightness with a raise or a tap These two statements seem somewhat contradictory.
- Cpoll 7y agoThat probably means that the screen is clear enough to read in most ambient light (since they're talking about an always-on display), but won't keep you awake or distract people in a movie theatre.
- drinchev 7y agoWell I assume you can still see it when it's dimmed, however if you can't, you can simply lift your wrist.
- warp 7y agoSo it still does the wrist motion detection thing. I wonder if you can turn this feature off so that it behaves like the previous Apple Watch and save more battery.
- pazimzadeh 7y agoBased on how carefully they worded it during the keynote, I'd say yes for sure.
- scarejunba 7y agoThey're not. There's an animation. It doesn't turn off. It dims. Like they said.
- michaelmior 7y agoI understand that. But if it's easy to see, why do I need to do something to make it brighter?
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- pastor_elm 7y agoA watch where the time is always visible. Hard to believe we have such tech in 2019.
- MBCook 7y agoIt looks like they dropped the stainless steel case. Too bad, that was always my favorite.
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- radicaldreamer 7y agoThey haven't dropped it, it's available in black, gold finish, and black pvd finish... they've added titanium and brought back ceramic but otherwise the finishes are unchanged.
- MBCook 7y agoIt was the polished stainless that I liked though, and that’s not there.
- graeme 7y agoIt says they have stainless in silver. Pretty sure that means polished. They said polished on stage.
- radicaldreamer 7y agoYup, I think they specifically referred to polished steel in the keynote as well.
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- jld 7y agoIt's still available. https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-watch/apple-watch?option.watch_cases=MWQP2LL/A&option.watch_bands=MX3P2AM/A&preSelect=false&product=Z0YQ&step=detail# https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-watch/apple-watch?option.watc...
- the_watcher 7y ago> all-day 18-hour battery life. Is there a standard for what "all-day" means? I think most would initially assume 24 hours, but thinking about it more, it seems reasonable to consider "can work from wake up to sleep" or "can work from sunup to sundown"/
- emptybits 7y agoYeah, I was a little sad reading this. But I just dug into the specs for my Series 3 and it's only advertised as "18+ hours" also, yet I get 23+ hours from it even after a year and a half of true "all day" use. I wear it for sleep tracking with the AutoSleep app. It's in its cradle 20 mins twice a day when I shower. So yay for conservative Apple specs? Hopefully this means the Series 5 isn't actually a battery downgrade. If it is, then the Apple-approved sleep apps in their App Store may not get the love they have received with older Apple Watchen.
- lalaithion 7y agoI have a Series 1. I don't sleep with it, it usually charges all night, but sometimes I wake up and find I forgot to place it on it's charger the previous night. I can usually use it until 1 or 2 PM that day before it dies. That's a 29+ hour battery life.
- brians 7y agoI have a Series 0, and if I use it to track a bike ride, it won’t make it to bedtime. Maybe something about number of charge cycles and heaviness of use?
- victorvation 7y ago"Wake to Sleep" seems to be the generally accepted definition, i.e. you won't have to charge it during the day during normal usage. How long you're awake for can vary though, I've seen anything from 8 hours to 20 hours of battery life be referred to as "all day".
- 7y ago
- Tomte 7y agoNo sleep tracking, no SpO2 sensor. They must be working on this, it would perfectly well into their health theme, and they bought Beddit. Another year.
- mikestew 7y agoSpO2 is probably what it would take to get me to replace my current Series 4. Everything shown today (what little there was) was a "nice to have", making it a "if you skipped an upgrade cycle or two" device to me. (For contrast, Series 3->Series 4 was a big enough jump to buy a new watch a year later.) That ceramic case is tempting, though.
- sp332 7y agoIt doesn't have enough battery life to last through the night if you've worn it all day. They probably intentionally don't have sleep tracking to avoid emphasizing that.
- spdustin 7y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20931335 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20931335
- tzs 7y agoHave people worked out how much various tasks and usage patterns affect battery life? With a Series 4, I can get through the night. I suspect that a large part of that is that I keep "Wake Screen on Wrist Raise" off most of the time. Generally I only enable it when doing a workout (~30 minutes a day) and sometimes in the kitchen when using timers. Another factor is probably that I don't use it for much more than telling time, checking my activity level, checking weather, and reading the occasional text message. If I charge to 99% or 100% during breakfast, I'm almost always above 60% at bedtime, and overnight with the Sleep++ app tracking uses under 20%.
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- atlasunshrugged 7y agoAs a frequent traveler the emergency calling feature in so many countries without needing to sign up for another service is pretty dang cool. I was in an apartment in Eastern Europe sleeping when the kitchen caught on fire, luckily I woke up from the crackling of the walls/roof and no alarms went off. Luckily I had memorized the local emergency number and had a local sim (I don't always if I'm not in a place long enough) and was able to call the emergency services but it could have easily gone the wrong way. Sometimes seconds count and you don't want to be googling a local emergency number
- noja 7y ago112 for Europe
- thanatos_dem 7y agoWait, it isn't 0118 999 881 999 119 725 3 any more?
- Shorel 7y agoAn IT Crowd reference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab8GtuPdrUQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab8GtuPdrUQ
- krzyk 7y agoYou don't need sim to be able to call emergency numbersv(t least not in Europe). Is it needed elswere to call those?
- ashelmire 7y agoOnly reason I don’t have an Apple Watch is because you can’t stream Spotify over cellular, you need to have your phone with you. What’s the point? I want to go for a run and stream music with just the watch to my Bluetooth headphones. I don’t need the watch if I have to bring my phone with me.
- selectodude 7y agoYou can stream Apple Music over WiFi/cellular without the phone. Not sure if that will include Spotify at some point but I do know the new watchOS has opened up a lot of those APIs.
- ashelmire 7y agoThat's nice, but I already pay for spotify and use it on my non-Apple devices. Does Apple Music let me stream any song in their library?
- threeseed 7y agoYes. Apple Music is just like Spotify.
- ashelmire 7y agoOh, huh. Thanks for the info, might open up the watch for me.
- saagarjha 7y agoYes.
- bognition 7y agoyes, think of it as a spotify clone by apple
- balboah 7y agoDon't fall for it. I tried switching for a trial period but Spotify owns iTunes in so many ways. Especially the discover weekly list
- gnicholas 7y agoThey mentioned that the Series 3 will start at $199. What about the Series 4? I hope they don't discontinue it, since this is the model I would plan to get. Bigger screen, but not the top-tier pricing of the Series 5.
- AgloeDreams 7y agoSeries 5 is priced the Same as 4.
- gnicholas 7y agoYeah, I was looking forward to pickup up last year's tech at a discount. Pretty lousy of them to force people to decide between super high price and 2-year-old tech (esp with the screen diff).
- handedness 7y agoThe Series 4 is now officially discontinued. I'd set up an alert for the refurb store.
- gnicholas 7y agoOut of curiosity, using what service? I have wondered if they use the refurb store to clear out new inventory at a discount, but retaining more revenue than if they sold to a retailer. By officially discontinuing a product, they can force (most) people into buying one of the new models. Protip: the extended warranty that comes with buying something with a credit card DOES NOT APPLY to refurb purchases. That means if you buy a refurb, or even if Apple swaps your device for a refurb when you take it in for service, you can't utilize the extended warranty.
- lavezzi 7y agoDoesn't look like it's on the website anymore, so try and pick one up from BBY or similar.
- chvid 7y agoDoes it make an automatic emergency call just before it runs out of battery?
- ak217 7y agoFor me, the single biggest problem with Apple Watch is battery life, and they seem to have done nothing to improve it. Garmin has always-on, reflective screen watches that can last for weeks on a single charge. I shouldn't need to babysit my watch.
- kbd 7y ago5th generation of the Apple Watch and it still doesn't come close to replacing my Pebble, unfortunately. At least it's closer to an actual watch now, with an always-on screen, but it still can't last 24 hours on a charge.
- ngngngng 7y agoI miss my old Pebble watch
- TremendousJudge 7y agoWhy did Pebble go under, anyway? They had a solid product that people enojoyed
- ebog 7y agoProbably a lack of good marketing.
- kbd 7y agoI don't have insider knowledge of their financials, but my impression is if they stayed lean and focused on their core product they'd have been a sustainable small company. Instead, they grew too big in typical VC-backed fashion and it wasn't sustainable.
- AgloeDreams 7y agoThey spent a lot on R&D and bet the company on kickstarters. Their direction also constrained them to Garmin-like products rather than heading off Android Wear or Apple watch (even fitbit can't compete after buying their guts)
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- tus88 7y ago> so it’s easy to see the time Revolutionary!
- 40acres 7y agoPerhaps it's naive of me to think that Apple will ever detach the Watch from the Phone and allow set up and full use cases for users who don't have an iPhone. I'd definitely buy a cellular enabled Apple Watch and ditch my phone if possible.
- piffey 7y agoThis is exactly why I purchased the Apple Watch. I leave my phone at home more often than not. The Watch does just basic comms and I've removed notifications of everything else. It's the essential communication/navigation device that I need and all I really want. For anything else I'd much rather open my laptop. Hoping one day it can be a standalone device.
- glhaynes 7y agoHoping one day it can be a standalone device With all the watchOS 6 stuff that makes it more independent (App Store on watch, iPhone-less apps, etc), I was thinking this might be the year. Oh well, bet it happens next year.
- geerlingguy 7y agoI’m optimistic too; remember the iPod and iPhone required a computer to get them set up initially too.
- piffey 7y agoI don't think it will ever happen if I'm honest. Would take away from iPhone sales.
- gurkendoktor 7y agoI think this depends on whether other manufacturers go that route. Apple would rather have their own Watch cannibalize iPhone sales than some Android Wear gadget.
- dsalzman 7y agoI wonder how they solved adding the magnetometer without interference with the magnets used for the charging cable?
- jedberg 7y agoI feel like it has something to do with electromagnets. Perhaps the charging magnet is only magnetic when electrified? Does that even make sense?
- deedubaya 7y agoAlways on display, but 18 hours of battery life? I'd rather have a display that turns of and 36 hours of battery life.
- 52-6F-62 7y agoI'd definitely appreciate being able to change it as a setting. Is there a hardware reason that couldn't have been implemented?
- cheeko1234 7y agoI don't think you can just add the hours like that. It's in a low power mode but the screen's still on. Probably uses very minimal battery to have the always-on display.
- jws 7y agoHuman perceived brightness is something like a logarithmic function of the power used to make the light. When you see most of the watch face go almost dark and the important bits being "half brightness", that could be operating at <5% of the normal power. The new fancy display only needs to be refreshed once per second which lets all the switching electronics go to sleep. What that all adds up to is the always on time taking very little power and turning it off will not gain you much run time.
- TheMagicHorsey 7y agoIs it just me, or has the surge in popularity of smart watches also caused a surge in the popularity of regular watches too? Speaking of myself, I bought a Pebble watch back in 2013 or so. I quickly realized I liked wearing a watch. Then I also realized I really only needed the time function. I then went from the Pebble to a Seiko mechanical. Now I have no smart watches and about ten different mechanical and quartz watches. The main reasons I prefer conventional watches: 1) They come in a much wider array of styles 2) They don't run out of power on long flights and leave you without your time reference right when you need it the most 3) They are generally cheaper 4) Some of them, like my Casios, have great features that work offline, like a digital compass, thermometer, altimeter ... all powered by solar! 5) To me (and this is a matter of personal preference) they look better 6) There are a lot of closet wristwatch nerds lurking in tech companies. Once you start wearing a Seiko mechanical, for example, you will soon get comments from other undercover watch nerds. I actually enjoy this random camaraderie.
- zepto 7y agoNot just you. I think it’s driving adoption and innovation in higher end watches.
- ponyous 7y agoI like Withings watches, they last 30 days and have tracking I like (HR & Sleeping) but no fancy display or anything like that. Design is also much nicer than any other smart watches I've seen.
- manishsharan 7y agoCould you share your experience with Withings ? I love their looks but I have wondered about the accuracy . I use my Fitbit Ionic mostly for tracking my daily calories burned. I was looking at Withings but I saws on message boards that it seemed to have having difficulty calculating calories. Is this still true?
- georgeecollins 7y agoA compass, wow! That's what I have always wanted: a compass small enough to fit on my wrist.
- notTyler 7y agoI very much want this, but I very much don't want to buy an iPhone when my pixel 2 still works as well as the day I got it.
- mark_l_watson 7y agoI love my Series 3 Apple Watch, with a data plan. I now usually leave my iPhone at home. I am trying to follow a digital minimalism program, following slow media ideas, and using digital devices for highly productive activities, not to waste time. I find AirPods work really well with my Apple Watch, no iPhone lifestyle.
- ricardobeat 7y agoWhat do you do with the AirPods? I thought the watch could not yet stream music without a phone.
- theshrike79 7y agoThe watch has enough memory for hours of music / podcasts.
- saagarjha 7y agoYou can do this with Apple Music, and once watchOS 6 is out, with many other apps.
- mark_l_watson 7y agoAs others have mentioned, without an iPhone you can stream from Apple. Using and Apple Podcasts. The AirPods are small and light in a pocket and the watch itself is light and designed for wearing comfort.
- jniedrauer 7y agoHard to beat the watches Garmin is making. 18 hour battery life isn't great compared to the fenix series with a week of battery life. And the features don't even come close.
- freehunter 7y agoThe Fenix is also $900. For that price you could buy two Apple Watches to switch out when one is charging and still have money left in your pocket.
- Spearchucker 7y agoScrolling down there's the Nike and Hermes editions. Maybe this is a cultural difference between here (Frankfurt) and elsewhere - I fail to understand how one would willingly pay extra to advertise a brand. The way I see it is that Nike for example should pay ME to wear their branding. And even then I wouldn't. I'm not a walking billboard.
- seanmcdirmid 7y agoThe Nike band is nice because it is perforated, which is great for venting sweat during a workout. Otherwise, I haven't really noticed any "nike" branding on my Nike edition Apple watch. I'm not sure anyone would even know it by looking at me, there is no nike logo anywhere (wait, no that isn't true, there is a small logo....on the inside of the band where absolutely no one can see it).
- tolmasky 7y agoWould you wear a Nike band for $3M a year?
- Spearchucker 7y agoThat is a sufficient amount to turn me into a walking billboard, yes.
- kstrauser 7y agoI would wear only a Nike band if they were willing to pay me $3M to induce blindness in the public.
- criley2 7y agoConsider that wearing an Apple watch makes you a billboard for Apple. The Apple Watch and the distinct white ear pods are about as well-lit of an advertisement you can get! Is what it is, but people treat the Apple logo and product as far more of an important status symbol than Nike. I would go so far as to suggest that the Nike logo cheapens the "person billboard" that Apple turns customers into
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- thanhps42 7y agosound good
- fudged71 7y agoWhile I am looking to upgrade to the Series 5 from a Series 1, I'm disappointed in the lack of native sleep tracking functionality... it's a glaring hole in the concept of overall health tracking. Similarly, I'd hoped they would announce some standardization to weightlifting in HealthKit. The watch and iphone health options are very cardio-centric, and every weightlifting app has implemented their own internal 1RM tracking which should be at an OS-level instead.
- whymsicalburito 7y agoSleep tracking would be cool, but don't most users charge their watch at night?
- bradenb 7y agoI think most probably do, but in my opinion the optimal way to use this watch is to wear all day and night and charge in the morning while you get ready. I've been doing that for 2 years with my Series 3 and I have never run out of battery.
- bredren 7y agoI have a friend that does this. I think that this may conflict with Apple's goals around wearables, though. I suspect the company aims to determine life schedules and provide useful prompts through key portions of the day. Morning prep being one of them. The watch needs to charge without taking it off the wrist--for example from using an Apple laptop or keyboard.
- theshrike79 7y agoNative sleep tracking would mean increasing the guaranteed battery life to multiple days, or make charging a lot faster.
- ztjio 7y agoYou turn off the wireless and screen activation at night, it hardly uses any power. It takes about 20 minutes (aka your get dressed & shower time) to recover all that power and more.
- wtdata 7y agoI have a Xiaomi Amazfit. Cost me 55€, and the battery lasts 15 days with an always on display. It has included GPS, compass, pressure meter, heart rate monitor and sleep monitoring. Sincerely, other than looks (and I woild still not bring an Apple phone to more formal occasions just like I don't bring my Amazfit) I can't understand why anyone would pay 10x more for an iWatch not can I stand that I would have to charge it everyday.
- vanous 7y agoExactly. Actually, the Amazefit Bip can go even much longer (six weeks) if you don't use GPS daily and as a benefit, fully FLOSS (unofficial) companion app Gadgetbridge ( http://gadgetbridge.org/ http://gadgetbridge.org/ )
- meerita 7y agoWhat is the average lifespan of an iWatch? Paying over a 1k for a watch that may last 5-6 years seems not a good idea.
- saagarjha 7y agoIt'll probably not last you that long.
- amelius 7y agoCan't they make something which looks more like a sportswatch or e.g. Rolex?
- wmf 7y agoAt this point the square design is "iconic" and they don't want to change it.
- amelius 7y agoIt doesn't look masculine nor feminine, and as such not "sexy".
- Austin_Conlon 7y agoAs in a circular face? That would truncate text.
- Zenst 7y ago"International emergency calling also works with fall detection, if enabled, to automatically place an emergency call if Apple Watch senses the user has taken a hard fall and remains motionless for about a minute." I like how they have thought, don't need a sim to make an emergency call, let alone credit, why not add the ability to call emergency services and use the GPS to pick the right local number. Equally the safety feature for older people is great initiative, though I do feel for younger users, this may cause some false positives and produce an unhappy ending when suddenly your watch has called the emergency services because you had a rest after some form of exercise. With that in mind, I'd imagine that during that minute a countdown upon the display starts and audible alert of about to call the emergency services - just to limit false positives taking up emergency services time. Also for legit cases, would offer reassurance to somebody who may be incapacitated but able to hear. Maybe they do have that, not sure, and will find out come an in depth review.
- nacs 7y ago> I'd imagine that during that minute a countdown upon the display starts and audible alert of about to call the emergency services There is both an audible alert and a display change with countdown before it starts the call.
- Zenst 7y agoThank you and reassuring. That feature alone will sell this by itself for the older generation. Even those who do not travel will appreciate it for that, people like that reassurance that such an option is open to them, even if they don't utilize it. More so the older you get, least what I have noticed.
- ilikehurdles 7y agoThis feature has caused a lot of false positive emergency calls for people skiing/snowboarding, where a fall is often harmless but triggers this countdown due to the speeds involved. [1] Folks stash their devices away under warm clothing and end up not noticing the countdown or reaching their device in time. Be careful with it if you are involved in high velocity sports. [1]: https://denver.cbslocal.com/2019/01/09/ski-areas-apple-watch-fall-vail-summit-county/ https://denver.cbslocal.com/2019/01/09/ski-areas-apple-watch...
- tmvnty 7y agoI actually hope Apple had a “Watch Lite” version. Because I don’t need all the features Watch provides, I just want a smart watch that track my sports activities and health, I DON’T NEED the retina display, multimedia apps or ability to take phone calls, let my phone do those things and just keep the watch minimal and only act as a brilliant health monitor on my wrist
- johns 7y agoThat’s a Fitbit
- collyw 7y agoMi Band is pretty good for the price. Th app is so so, I am trying to work out if I can get the raw data from it. It does sync with a load of other apps.
- trymas 7y agoBuy polar, garmin, suunto or other sports smartwatch. They are health/fitness oriented and have week long battery lives.
- buboard 7y agoI find the current generation of smartwatches a complete waste of money. Other than the signaling factor of the iwatch, i found it annoying and utterly useless. Between the wrist-shock vibration (hey my phone is already vibrating in my pocket) to the annoying "breathe" app, this is by far the worst apple product i ve used. But it's not their fault, it's a problem with the genre. Between the daily-recharge hassle, the inability to have an always-on screen, the lack of a killer app and its relative fragility , watches like these are doomed. I much prefer the $30 xiaomi mi band as a sort-of tracker. (this is just my opinion)
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- fantasticsid 7y agoI wish someday Apple Watch can charge itself by harnessing the power of arm swing. I know some mechanical watches do that. Not sure though if it can gather enough power to sustain indefinitely.
- TheRealDunkirk 7y agoThat would be a lot of mechanism to jam into the already (IMO) oversized case.
- oracle2025 7y agoNice, but I just got myself a Casio F-91W
- teilo 7y agoSo, the LTPO display is not new. It was introduced in the Series 4. What is not clear to me is whether in the low-refresh low-intensity mode it is still subject to burn-in.
- dmamills 7y agoThis is a big let down for me. I love endurance sports and currently use a S3+LTE with bluetooth headphones and it's the perfect running companion. I don't have to carry anything to track to run and listen to my music, podcasts, or audiobooks. But I was really expecting more innovation from the "by innovation only" event. Garmin's flagship watch has a feature that extends the battery life by embedded TWO SOLAR PANELS into the display. That is innovation. https://buy.garmin.com/en-CA/CA/p/641375 https://buy.garmin.com/en-CA/CA/p/641375
- endorphone 7y agoYou don't have to carry anything to listen to music, podcasts, or audio books with the wifi-only Apple Watch (beyond the bluetooth earphones, presumably), and it tracks your run too. The thing has 16GB of storage and a full ability to exist by itself. I've never used the S3, or the Garmin, so I have no idea how great they are, but I just had to comment on the Apple Watch thing. There are some things that the Apple Watch seemed designed to be tethered to an iPhone, almost like they were (bizarrely) afraid that it would make people not want to upgrade their phone. They've taken a really rapid approach away from that, though, and the watch is becoming dramatically more powerful by itself, even though it could already do all of the basic things.
- matt-attack 7y agoYep. I go running routinely with just my Apple Watch and no phone. It's feels much better to not be clutching the phone in one hand. I listen to Podcasts and/or Music and when I get home I even use HomeKit to open my garage door to let me in the house. (That last one works presumably because I pop on the house wifi when I get near)
- dmamills 7y agoThis is true, the only reason I noted the LTE was because this gives me access to my entire Apple Music library on the go. Perfect for the indecisive listener like me! :)
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- univalent 7y agoThe Watch does too much. I love the Fitbit Versa because it helps me get off my phone. Just important notifications and reading texts and that's it. I can't really "do" much on it except glance at notifications and that's exactly what I want. Helped me keep my phone in another room in the house or in my bag at work and not look at it at all.
- Austin_Conlon 7y agoMost of the Apple Watch complexity is only disclosed if you go out of your way to find it by pressing the crown and going to the home screen. I do think it's a bit much though that Breathe notifications are "important" in that they're on by default.
- mensetmanusman 7y agoHave they solved OLED burnin? A static always-on watch face seems risky. What do people think the lifetime of this is, 3 years? 10 years?
- 51Cards 7y agoI still have 2 Pebbles working perfectly and I will continue to stick with those. I haven't seen much yet that makes me want to replace them. Perhaps I have simple needs but Always On Screen, Notifications (SMS, Email, Calender), Voice Messaging and the Ability to dial calls is all I need a smart watch to do. My Pebbles still do it with 5+ days of battery life. Outside of the bio features some people use I really feel a lot of smart watch features are looking for a problem to solve.
- Austin_Conlon 7y agoHow's the user experience and polish of the OS?
- orloffm 7y agoAm I correct that if a Watch user goes far away from his/her phone, receives a SMS during that period of time, and then comes back, the notification is never shown on the Watch? If so, how come this is not a #1 issue Apple needs to address? The Watch is then unreliable for notifications and doesn’t eliminate the need to check the phone from time to time. I’m amazed this is not talked about.
- Austin_Conlon 7y agoAll messages including iMessages or just green SMS texts? In general if you're not on a cellular model then it's supposed to show you notifications once you reenter the range of your paired iPhone. The only Messages bugs I've seen on developer betas are related to how read receipts are shown in Activity workout replies.
- yalok 7y agoIf your watch has WiFi or Cellular connectivity while away from iPhone, it will show you the notification, and will even let us reply (iMessage)
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- xadoc 7y agoIs it still water resistant?
- Austin_Conlon 7y agoYup: >Apple Watch Series 5 and Apple Watch Series 3 have a water resistance rating of 50 meters under ISO standard 22810:2010. This means that they may be used for shallow-water activities like swimming in a pool or ocean. However, they should not be used for scuba diving, waterskiing, or other activities involving high-velocity water or submersion below shallow depth. https://www.apple.com/watch/compare/?afid=p238%7CsR2VtjPIL-dc_mtid_20925qtb42335_pcrid_381793516974&cid=-slid---apple+watch+series+5+specs-e https://www.apple.com/watch/compare/?afid=p238%7CsR2VtjPIL-d...
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- biztos 7y agoThis is probably off topic for the S5 release, but I keep sort of hoping for a smartwatch I don't have to wear as a watch. Because I wear a nice watch already. It only tells the time, but it's also jewelry. A lot of us still want a mechanical watch on our wrists. So where does that leave us if we also want what the Apple Watch offers, but aren't willing to displace our nice analog timepieces? Sure, I could make an Apple PocketWatch (and it's tempting, since iPhone is now available only in "big" or "huge") but one of the most interesting things is the sensors on your skin and vibration as notification. Maybe you could wear it on your ankle like a convict under house arrest?
- lowboy 7y agoWear an Apple watch on the other arm?
- biztos 7y agoOr wear it right next to the mechanical watch? I can't remember the name but when I was a kid, there was a children's book with a gorilla that sold stolen watches, always had a bunch of them on his arm. That look might work, and then I could have a Garmin too in case the battery dies on my Apple.
- EForEndeavour 7y agoAssuming you're being serious, this would look absolutely goofy as all hell (do you want to look like a goddamn kleptomaniac gorilla?), which is a dealbreaker for someone who wears watches as jewelry, i.e., someone who cares about watch aesthetics.
- sonofhans 7y agoIt sounds like you're thinking of Bananas Gorilla[1]. That got pretty real in high school when some kids wore half a dozen Swatches[2]. [1] https://everythingbusytown.fandom.com/wiki/Bananas_Gorilla https://everythingbusytown.fandom.com/wiki/Bananas_Gorilla [2] https://www.stay-tuned-to-sw.de/old_ad_lendl.jpg https://www.stay-tuned-to-sw.de/old_ad_lendl.jpg & https://www.stay-tuned-to-sw.de/old_ads.html https://www.stay-tuned-to-sw.de/old_ads.html
- admils 7y agodrewg123 5 hours ago [-] I retired my previous fitness watch (Polar M600) when its battery life got to be this bad. I moved on to a Garmin 645M with almost a week of battery life. It is nice to be able to travel for a week on business and not worry about carrying a charger. The display is clear and always on.. It plays Spotify so I can run without my phone.
- fillskills 7y agoI wish they would add a CO2 sensor, so everyone can monitor the health of the world they live in
- gigatexal 7y agoWhat about sensitive information on compilations that were hidden in the old tap to wake up screen mode from before? Imagine a calendar event entry on the watch face you didn’t want the world to see but now that it’s always on it will be shown.
- marpstar 7y agosome complications "hide" when the watch is locked now (Fantastical's "next calendar event" being one of them). I'm guessing it'll support something similar.
- steveisdead 7y agohttp://steveisdead.net http://steveisdead.net
- inamberclad 7y agoThe battery issue with smartwatches drives me nuts. My Citizen uses a solar panel, and it's been ticking for years. It should last about 20 without needing a change of battery/capacitor.
- nilanp 7y agoI love the watch - but its painfully tied to location - due to the lack of space inside it (US watches - don't work in Europe) - has this watch been updated ? https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/can-i-use-apple-watch-lte-in-different-country-where-i-have-bought-it.2104119/ https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/can-i-use-apple-watch-l...
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- ksec 7y agoThis is one of the places where Apple could test new Battery Tech. People seems to value things very differently, so for iPhone, they valued it as a Phone, when it is more like a Pocket Computer with very decent Camera. But they still see it as a Phone, so $1099 is expensive. When it comes to Watches, we are used to seeing Super expensive watches, I don't ever see people ( General Public, not tech nerds ) comparing Apple Watch with what ever Digital Watches, like Gear Watch. And for this reason Apple Watch is affordable to many. And I see it is very much possible for Apple to bump the price and include Solid Battery or some other form of Breakthrough Battery technology along with Super fast Charging. I wouldn't mind spending $1099 if it had 3x Battery Capacity and Super Fast Charging.
- cjbenedikt 7y ago"...so it’s easy to see the time and other important information, without raising or tapping the display." Did the whole watch industry for at least 150 + years...truly innovative