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Announcing unlimited free private repos
- thameera 8y agoDoes anyone have a source for this news beyond the TNW article that's being shared everywhere? I couldn't find any official announcement from GitHub.
- matthewjhughes 8y agoI'm the author of this post. The article has been updated to clarify that I accidentally published it one day before the embargo lifted. GitHub will formally announce the news tomorrow.
- duncanawoods 8y agoConfusingly it is also dated on the 5th making it look like it should have been announced yesterday...
- matthewjhughes 8y agoYeah, I know. For some reason, when you put a past date in Wordpress and press "schedule," it publishes the article automatically. That's all this was -- a typo.
- LyndsySimon 8y agoThat's really unfortunate :( I'd be interested to see if you do a post-mortem on this - what the consequences were, and what steps you end up taking to ensure that it doesn't happen again.
- SomeHacker44 8y agoThe upshot may well be that this gentleman and/or this publication no longer receives embargoed information anymore, at least for a time.
- LyndsySimon 8y agoI don't know if that's an "upshot", but I'd be interested to know if that happens. One way to help ensure that it doesn't happen is to take steps to prevent it and post a post-mortem explaining both what caused it to happen and why it won't in the future.
- niij 8y agoI would've deleted it as soon as you noticed. Might not have stopped people from noticing (nothing on the internet is ever deleted blah blah), but might have improved the optics a bit.
- godot 8y agoI am also curious why he didn't remove the post as soon as he noticed? Does TNW have policies regarding published stories not being removed?
- zuck9 8y agoGitHub should publish the post today after noticing this and remove the embargo for other publications.
- codazoda 8y agoThe news is now public. https://blog.github.com/2019-01-07-new-year-new-github/ https://blog.github.com/2019-01-07-new-year-new-github/
- budhajeewa 8y agoToo bad HN doesn't allow following users. :-D
- samblr 8y agoPrivate repos with maximum of 3 collaborators are now allowed.
- lettergram 8y agoWell, if true -- I'll be canceling my subscription :D Thank you Github / Microsoft! > Due to a scheduling error, we published this story one day before the embargo lifted. This feature isn’t live yet, but Github will formally unveil it tomorrow. When that happens, we’ll update this post with a link to the official announcement. Also... kinda unfair to others.
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- SlowRobotAhead 8y ago"Oops" we got a big industry exclusive. Our bad guys!
- lewisflude 8y agoI wonder if they reached out to GitHub to see if they felt it was alright to keep this up? Might be good if the author could clarify! Either way, really cool news.
- SlowRobotAhead 8y agoDefinitely cool news, even if it is a max of 3 contributors. I'd have liked to seen that a little higher, but they surely know what they're basing that number on. It's not enough to pull me from GitLab just yet, but if I keep having 10MB+ issues there, I'll switch.
- sytse 8y agoWhat issue are you having on GitLab? Do you mean the attachment limit? https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/support-forum/issues/2654 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/support-forum/issues/2654 How large is it on GitHub and BitBucket?
- SlowRobotAhead 8y ago
- writepub 8y agoSure, theNextWeb had a "scheduling error", and this has nothing to do with being the first to put this news out.
- matthewjhughes 8y agoLook at the URL. The datestamp is set to the 5th instead of the 8th, when the embargo for the news lifts. The only reason this post was published early was because a stupid typo when scheduling it.
- LeifCarrotson 8y agoAnd, on a numeric keypad, the 5 is directly below the 8, supporting the typo hypothesis. Tweets from the author: > Oh fuck me. > I just accidentally published a major piece of news one day early because I've got butterfingers and typed the wrong number in the scheduler. > Is it too early to start drinking? > Wordpress is fucking stupid. If you schedule something for \in the past\* it should say "er, are you sure?" instead of just immediately publishing the post.* What I find most interesting about the fiasco is that TheNextWeb.com's editorial process consists of the stock Wordpress "Schedule a post" function [1] which includes this lovely tidbit: > Tip: Always double check the date at the top of this calendar before clicking publish, and verify that it correctly says AM or PM Trying it out in a test instance of Wordpress, he's correct: The initial status of a new post is "publish immediately." [2] Clicking "Edit" brings up a date editor. [3] And "OK" doesn't warn you if your date is in the past. [4] Finally, clicking the "Publish" (which could read "Schedule") generates a post with the URL /01/05/ that's visible immediately with no warning. [5] Note the visibility and status options above the date: Wordpress does support some options for "draft" or "pending review" options with private/password-only visibility, but apparently TNW - a business that draws $15 million in revenue, is among the top 20,000 websites, and has dozens of employees - didn't use them before this oops. I somehow assumed that there would be a red-tape process involving legal, editorial, and managerial oversight before you could get any content to the front page of a site like this. Not sure after seeing this if TNW is just playing fast and loose, or if everyone is... [1] https://en.support.wordpress.com/schedule-a-post/ https://en.support.wordpress.com/schedule-a-post/ [2] https://i.imgur.com/0CxPYhS.png https://i.imgur.com/0CxPYhS.png [3] https://i.imgur.com/qa7emUd.png https://i.imgur.com/qa7emUd.png [4] https://i.imgur.com/svyNS6K.png https://i.imgur.com/svyNS6K.png [5] https://i.imgur.com/dPyURfD.png https://i.imgur.com/dPyURfD.png
- saagarjha 8y agoI'm curious if GitHub is now a loss leader for Microsoft, or if personal subscriptions were a small portion of their revenue.
- amyjess 8y agoI'm fairly sure that the bulk of GitHub's revenue comes from companies using GitHub as their primary SCM. B2B revenue is huge compared to anything you'll get from the few hobbyists who are both able and willing to pay for this kind of service.
- TheRealWatson 8y agoI have zero insight on this but I also don't know anyone in my circle who pays individually for Github... When they need that, they use Bitbucket. I know several people I worked for or did business with that paid for Organization accounts, from Team to Enterprise.
- fareesh 8y agoIn third world countries we typically don't want to spend $100 a year for something like this when BitBucket and GitLab are free. This change is a big deal for our situations.
- Zamicol 8y agoIt sounds like recently they sorted things out, but Bitbucket's interface was buggy to the point of unusability for me. Some scary permission issues like not being removed from a corporate team.
- laurentl 8y agoBitbucket’s website is slow as hell. I actually physically cringe when I have to do something through the website (e.g. create a pull request) because I know I’ll be staring at slow-loading pages for the next 5 minutes, even for something that’s 3 clicks away.
- russley 8y agoThat's cool. I have no problem paying a bit each month for more features on GitHub so hopefully they add more powerful features, but free private repos for individual projects is great since GitHub for many people is a portfolio.
- yakshaving_jgt 8y agoI imagine this will harm BitBucket somewhat.
- jamp897 8y agoBitbucket’s killer feature is integration with JIRA and the rest of the Atlassian stack, so I doubt it’ll have much impact.
- eaurouge 8y agoI guess that depends on your definition of “killer”, particularly wrt Jira.
- laughingpine 8y agoFree private repos is exactly why I was using BitBucket. I will have to think it moving will justify the effort.
- frou_dh 8y agoIn my case, Bitbucket will lose someone who was just using it as a dumb git storage backend, and did not engage with the Atlassian products at all. I assume that they won't be particularly bothered to see the likes of me drop off.
- nickjj 8y agoThis is exactly how I see it too. If anything this move might be beneficial for Bitbucket because if there's a 0% chance we would use their other paid products, we were just taking up resources.
- Hoasi 8y agoThis is a bold move. That should prevent a potential exodus to other companies, post-Microsoft acquisition, although doubtful if such a bleed in customers occurred yet. GitHub is far ahead of everyone else thanks to its user interface anyway. This should at least force the competition to step up big time.
- memborg 8y agoWell, either Way I will not leave Gitlab anytime soon.
- jopsen 8y agoAnd that's probably why they did it :) So others won't leave for gitlab.
- fractalf 8y ago+1 Gitlab is awesome! Cool community oriented developers and a ton of more features. I see no reason too use github when gitlab is just better. It's also offered as a self hosted service.
- EduardoBautista 8y agoThat’s my exact issue with GitLab. They have a ton of features but they are not the best at any of those features.
- sytse 8y agoWhat feature did you find lacking?
- jazoom 8y agoCan I remove old docker images from the registry yet? Heck, I still can't order by date, which should have been the default all along. Why would anyone want to see the images ordered alphabetically? It can take minutes to page through and find the most recent image buried among hundreds.
- joshlambert 8y agoI'm sorry this has taken so long, but we are working on some foundational API's to manage and list images right now: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/55978 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/55978. I've also added your feedback on sorting, thank you! We are also setting up a team to focus on just packaging related features within GitLab, like the Registry, which should improve our velocity in this area.
- mayli 8y agoThat's the one of the reasons I stay with bitbucket or gitlab. If they offer this feature at the very beginning, I would never touch bitbucket/gitlab, but now both of them offering free build-in CI(public and private). I am hesitate to migrate back.
- judge2020 8y agoIf it helps. Github is currently in beta for their own CI/CD platform: https://github.com/features/actions https://github.com/features/actions
- rhacker 8y agoGitlab's entire business model has just been attacked. We are unlikely to shift over because we us CI.
- undersheet 8y agoI love Github for open source and the community but for private repos I like But bucket more. Don't know why but the overall interface feels cleaner, less cluttered.
- lowlevel 8y agoAbout time.
- jadbox 8y agoI'm still only seeing the free plan in Github as " Free plan, unlimited public repositories". Is this a slow rollout or something?
- st0le 8y agoThe change goes live tomorrow. They messed up with the announcement.
- grepthisab 8y agoLooks like this was announced prematurely, and it will actually be rolling out tomorrow.
- http-teapot 8y agoNat Friedman (GitHub's CEO) says in the next couple of hours: https://twitter.com/natfriedman/status/1082346291290468352 https://twitter.com/natfriedman/status/1082346291290468352
- kylemh 8y agoThe announcement went out a day early. Roll-out is tomorrow. edit: just kidding, it's shipped
- grepthisab 8y agoAwesome, awesome, awesome. I know I have no right to think that anyone would care for a moment about the code I'm writing or the potentially money-making side-projects I'm working on, but I am paranoid about entities like current/future employers and third parties seeing what I'm developing in private. I often just keep those local and back them up privately to an SD card, or go with private bitbucket (which is harder because I do all my at-work development on GitHub). This will significantly increase my use of GitHub.
- bovermyer 8y agoAnyone know when this is supposed to be turned on? I'm still seeing the old system/verbiage on the GitHub Billing page.
- dragonwriter 8y agoTomorrow, as the article says it was published a day early due to an error.
- bovermyer 8y agoThe NextWeb article says it was published a day early, yes. However, the official GitHub announcement continues to refer to release day as "today."
- tinyhouse 8y agoThey just updated it a few minutes ago! By the time the blog post was out it was still asking for a credit card. Now it doesn't. They really rushed things out because of that TNW mistake! Like many others here I'm also pretty happy about it. $7/month is not a lot of money but I also moved some personal private repos to BitBucket to avoid the fees. I will probably go back now.
- bovermyer 8y agoYeah, I'm in the process of migrating all of my GitLab repos to GitHub now. My workflow is GitHub+CircleCI, so GitLab was never a big win for me; I just used it for the private repos.
- ninkendo 8y agoI just downgraded from pro and the form said I'll be keeping my private repos, so it works for me.
- ocdtrekkie 8y agoI've been wanting to move a bunch of my old code into GitHub just for my own convenience, but have strained a bit on what I do and don't want to share publicly. Will probably take advantage of this and move most of it in private, and then gradually shift things to public as I'm comfortable with it.
- globetrotter33m 8y agoIt still asks me to setup a subscription plan with cc to create a new private repo. What am I missing? Or has the upgrade not rolled out to me yet?
- nickjj 8y agoWhile I think this is a great move, don't forget that private repos also means no more free Travis CI. Gitlab CI however offers 2,000 build minutes a month with their integrated CI service. Even if your whole set up takes 10 minutes to build on CI, that's 200 builds a month which is plenty for an individual project that's on a private repo. In other words, I think Gitlab's free private repos + CI is still a better choice for a solo developer who wants private repos since CI is such a useful tool and other external CI services have much more limited free plans (to use with Github instead). Having everything in the same UI is also really useful, which is another win for Gitlab. I prefer Github's UI for overall repo exploration and issues, etc.. but I'm not sure if I'll move my private repos over to Github now that's it free, because the repo itself is only 1 piece of the puzzle. Microsoft also has a deep connection with Docker. It's kind of no surprise that Docker only has automated build support for GitHub and Bitbucket. Kind of a bummer, but with Gitlab CI you can get the same effect in the end.
- philliphaydon 8y agoVsts has 30 free hours (1800 minutes) on hosted build agents for windows OS X and linux.
- bg0 8y agoCan you link where you see this? I can't seem to find it
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- boramalper 8y agoCompetition in a free market is good, but in the presence of monopolies, it's a self-destructing concept. TechCrunch wrote[0] "This feels like a sign of goodwill on behalf of Microsoft, which closed its acquisition of GitHub last October, with former Xamarin CEO Nat Friedman taking over as GitHub’s CEO." I believe it's more of a sign of an attempt to kill GitHub's rivals by hurting their revenue streams. As Aaron Levie, co-founder and chief executive of Box once said in 2014, “These guys will drive prices to zero, [...] you do not want to wait for Google or Amazon to keep cutting prices on you. ‘Free’ is not a business model.”[1] [0]: https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/07/github-free-users-now-get-unlimited-private-repositories/ https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/07/github-free-users-now-get-... [1]: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/25/technology/box-dropbox-and-hightail-pivot-to-new-business-models.html https://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/25/technology/box-dropbox-an...
- aarongray 8y agoCode storage is a free market and GitHub is not a monopoly.
- boramalper 8y agoIt’s currently the de facto solution, and it’s on the way of becoming a monopoly. 9 out of 10 companies I’ve applied to asked for my GitHub profile explicitly; I presume they would be equally happy with a link to Bitbucket or GitLab but it just shows that GitHub has already won the mindshare by far -which comes as no surprise-. Now that they are acquired by Microsoft, they have more resources than any of its competitors.
- nickik 8y agoThe term monopoly has a meaning in economics and even in normal conversation. Saying they have monopoly because they have lot of mindshare is crazy talk.
- boramalper 8y agoI said “it’s on the way of becoming one”, not that it’s currently a monopoly.
- mroche 8y agoFor those of you using GitLab, BitBucket, or <insert-other-git-host-competitor-here>, does this make you consider switching back at all? If so, why? It may be myopic, but the only major reason I can think of is visibility if you plan on publicizing the repo at some point. But you can achieve this by using GitHub as a mirror for your main repo on another platform (at least for GitLab, I’m not familiar with BitBucket). Edit: Personally, I use GitLab (both .com and I've set up/maintain several sefl-hosted solutions). I originally tried out GitLab due to lack of private repos on GitHub, and I don't see a reason I should switch back at this point. The open development and attitude towards the product and community has been part of that.
- holtalanm 8y agoyeah. I'm dropping Bitbucket in favor of this for my private projects. BitBucket's UI is so un-intuitive that I (most of the time) dread actually having to log into the web UIs for it. I'm also just much more comfortable with GitHub since I use it daily in my day job.
- mroche 8y agoFair point. I've only been to a few BitBucket repos in the past year or two and I never really enjoyed the experience.
- jws 8y agoI use BitBucket for my solo private repositories specifically because it was free. They are a trivial load to the provider in both storage and transactions. Repositories which I make public I put on GitHub since that seems to be where people will find them and are more likely to contribute. Had this policy been in place when I started using git I never would have found and used Bitbucket, but I don't feel anything is gained by moving my private BitBuckets to GitHub. Update: I see another reply talking about the web interfaces. If I used them that might be a factor, but for my private stuff the only web functions I use are for creating the repositories, and both platforms get that done easily enough.
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- holtalanm 8y agowell there goes 90% of the reason I still had a BitBucket account. brb migrating my private repos to Github.
- bg0 8y agoGitLab has had this issue for EVER and I just switched to bitbucket a few days ago because of it: https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/15140 https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/issues/15140 I wish I had waited a few more days now.
- wjd2030 8y agojust microsoft being evil here. clearly.
- EGreg 8y agoAlso I wonder if they will get a lot of accounts continuing to pay because they missed this announcement. Perhaps most!
- cgtyoder 8y agoStill amazed that anyone uses this site for more than trivial work, given that this language exists in their TOS: "GitHub has the right to suspend or terminate your access to all or any part of the Website at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice, effective immediately. GitHub reserves the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason at any time."
- napsterbr 8y agoNot agreeing or anything, but it seems a pretty standard TOS clause.
- apetresc 8y agoSo, when I go to downgrade my Pro account to the Free tier, it warns me: > You will no longer have access to unlimited collaborators or advanced code review tools in private repositories. > You will still have access to unlimited private repositories. So it seems some functionality beyond just unlimited collaborators that is tied to the Pro account - but the blog post makes no mention of what these "advanced code review tools" could be. Anyone know?
- pier25 8y agoWhat I see is only: > If you downgrade, you’ll lose access to advanced code review tools in your private repositories.
- lugg 8y agoNot super clear from above posters. This sort of explains things better now: https://github.com/pricing#compare https://github.com/pricing#compare Essentially you lose: Protected branches, CODEOWNERS, insights, wikis and pages.
- jpatokal 8y agoAnd those only for private repos; they're still available for public repos. I've been happily paying Github $7/mo for years now for Pro, but there's now literally no reason to keep doing so, so back to Free it is. Thank you Microsoft! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- siminuk 8y agoHi! I work at GitHub. All the details are listed on the official pricing page in the feature comparison section: https://github.com/pricing https://github.com/pricing and in the docs: https://help.github.com/articles/github-s-billing-plans/#billing-plans-for-personal-accounts https://help.github.com/articles/github-s-billing-plans/#bil...
- org3432 8y agoWhat's amusing is that this will likely hurt the tool makers since it will lock them out of free accounts, where as before they could sell to free accounts. Seems like a whoops for GH.
- nevi-me 8y agoGood timing! I have a private Gitlab instance, but yesterday I was wondering whether to go for a paid GH account so I can host a private repo there. I intend on sharing the code when ready, but wanted issues history to be on GH without needing to migrate anything. This decision saves me $7 a month
- dstroot 8y agoGitHub = Free Public BitBucket = Free Private I have 100+ repos on Github and about 30 private ones on BitBucket. Brilliant move because now I will use Github exclusively. I do wonder how they will monetize “me” though...
- usaphp 8y agoThat was the reason I moved to bitbucket, now i don’t see a reason to go back to github.
- __john 8y agoOne thing I like about bitbucket/atlassian over github is bitbucket's pipelines[1] and the bitbucket-pipelines.yml file. I really wish github had something like that. [1]https://bitbucket.org/product/features/pipelines https://bitbucket.org/product/features/pipelines
- dtrailin 8y agoAzure pipelines is basically the same thing and offers free build to for private repos.
- derimagia 8y agoGithub does have "Actions" which is their version of this which is in beta: https://github.com/features/actions https://github.com/features/actions https://developer.github.com/actions/creating-github-actions/ https://developer.github.com/actions/creating-github-actions...
- __john 8y agoI didn't know this existed, thank you for pointing it out.
- tomphoolery 8y agoI wish they'd port this over to Bitbucket Server sometime soon. Bamboo is a massive pile of garbage compared to most other CI offerings these days.
- pram 8y agoIt’s unlikely due to how it works internally. They’d basically have to rewrite most of it from scratch. Not to mention “Bitbucket Server” is a completely different codebase (used to be called stash) Source: used to work at atlassian ;P
- AdmiralAsshat 8y agoWell hey, something GitHub lifted from GitLab, for a change.
- jdlyga 8y agoThis is the main reason I used GitLab. Can't make student Git repositories public!
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- kennethy 8y agoStudents are usually eligible for free private repos. https://education.github.com/pack https://education.github.com/pack
- whalesalad 8y agoI've been paying $7 a month since like 2010. Woohoo!
- balls187 8y agoThis is a smart move. Gives developers who have small indy projects a reason to use Github rather than a competitor (I know I use gitlab precisely because it's free for my private one-off repos).
- pweissbrod 8y agoDoes gitlab have free integrated PR code review tools?
- madamelic 8y agoI am not sure what you are asking, but yes you can create and review PRs in GitLab. GitLab is GitHub but with more features and a smaller community. GitLab focuses more on code than community, at least from my experience with it.
- Macha 8y agoYes. The free tier has the basic pull request functionality (called merge request). Some features (require approvals before PR merges from contributors, require approvers from certain groups) are limited to paid tiers on gitlab.com
- jopsen 8y agoWhy, oh, why couldn't they have called it pull-requests. Changing the terminology makes me not want to use gitlab.
- klinskyc 8y agoWhile understandable, this is sad to see. The amount of interesting and useful code that is currently available due to GitHub defaulting to public will likely be seriously negatively impacted by this.
- asdfman123 8y agoI feel like most people either want their code public (they want to share their projects with the world) or they want it private (they don't want the rest of the world to see their embarrassing toy projects). I think the projects that could go either way -- that are public just because it's cheaper than private -- probably aren't that common or that important.
- agumonkey 8y agoPlausible, or maybe more people will try things privately and when they get some interesting results they'll turn it public. I know I had a little amount of shame in not throwing lots of stuff publicly..
- HereBeBeasties 8y agoOn the flip side, the amount of Hello World projects masquerading as useful things in their README.md in search results until you actually click through and look at them properly will hopefully drop off a cliff.
- jopsen 8y agoMaybe, maybe not... Open source is just as much a culture. I don't mind fewer repositories without a LICENSE. I suspect people who wanted free private hosting used gitlab or bitbucket.
- gtaylor 8y agoI can only speak for myself, but I had simply put all of my private stuff over in GitLab instead. For folks like me, this will result in no external change. Just a question of where I stash stuff.
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- ggcdn 8y agoSo now what benefits does a subscription offer for a casual developer? If the 3 collaborator limit isn't a problem, is there any reason to keep a subscription?
- paxys 8y agoI imagine they'll eventually remove individual plans entirely. Microsoft probably doesn't care about the tiny revenue from random developers paying them and would rather focus on enterprise plans.
- techaddict009 8y ago"Due to a scheduling error, we published this story one day before the embargo lifted. This feature isn’t live yet, but Github will formally unveil it tomorrow. When that happens, we’ll update this post with a link to the official announcement. " Well played @The Next Web :D
- l9k 8y agoCan a Github.io website be freely hosted with a private repo?
- Kadin 8y agoYup. At least at the business tier you can. Push to gh-pages and it deploys to the site, but site visitors never see the ingredients that go into the sausage.
- therg 8y agoNope, not on the free tier via a private repo.
- yono38 8y agoYes - we do it at our company
- gedy 8y agoLooks like no longer: `Upgrade to GitHub Pro or make this repository public to enable Pages.`
- nyxtom 8y agoI actively avoid using GitHub private repositories for this very reason since I have too many 7-9/month subscriptions it all adds up fast. This actually will encourage me to start some fun project ideas more now that I know I can rely on the private repos.
- fuddle 8y agoNow I'm just waiting for GitHub CI. :)
- snorremd 8y agoMaybe Github Actions qualify? https://github.com/features/actions https://github.com/features/actions I must say it looks almost like Gitlab's pipeline system, but somewhat more flexible. If Github's free plan allows you to use pipelines I might just have to test it to compare.
- ianwalter 8y agoGitHub Actions is going to be GitHub CI for me: https://github.com/features/actions https://github.com/features/actions
- cturhan 8y agoI'm pretty sure it will be paid feature in near future.
- ianwalter 8y agoNot for public pipelines. I don't think it will be for personal private repos either. I'm sure they will add pricing plans that allow you to execute more pipelines in parallel, etc though. What makes you so sure it will be a paid feature?
- tyteen4a03 8y agoI wonder if it is because they are noticing their userbase numbers slipping.
- chaostheory 8y agoThis was the main reason I moved away from github. It's late, but still a welcome move.
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- kreetx 8y agoSeriously? Can you elaborate?
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- BoorishBears 8y agoJust by the nature of the comment, dropping such an inflammatory claim with 0 context or evidence, you can tell they were probably flagged with good reason.
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- Rebelgecko 8y agoThey banned you for a negative comment on HN?
- guessmyname 8y ago> Everything Github does is great! > (I say this -- because last time I said something negative they banned me). > https://imgur.com/a/WvC3qpM https://imgur.com/a/WvC3qpM I have the impression that they banned your GitHub account because of your username [1]. [1] https://github.com/ransom1538 https://github.com/ransom1538
- stupidcar 8y agoOne of the best uses of GitHub is being able to search for some obscure framework method name or enum constant, and find examples of working code that uses it. This has saved my life many times when trying to figure out how to configure Java frameworks to interact with each other. When searching for this kind of code, you have to wade through an awful lot of repos containing half-baked personal projects, experiments, unmodified clones of upstream frameworks, and barely-modified boilerplate examples. It would be nice if there was less of this detritus clogging up the search results. However, sometimes the code you actually want is embedded in some otherwise useless, half-baked personal project, or barely-modified boilerplate example. So if all these projects disappear behind a veil of privacy, maybe it won't be a net win.
- jcolella 8y agoI cannot agree more with this. I love being able to search and see how libraries are being used in real life projects. It definitely helps.
- jmuhlich 8y agoHonest question: how do you make github search work for you? It often fails to find stuff that I know exists in a given repo. Nothing fancy, even single-word full symbol names.
- kreetx 8y agoI like the last two paragraphs :p
- vijaybritto 8y ago"Due to a scheduling error, we published this story one day before the embargo lifted." This is really poor from TNW. They spoiled all the excitement in twitter tomorrow!
- smsm42 8y agoNice. I wonder though whether in 5 years they won't discover it costs them money and decide to take it back.
- asdkhadsj 8y agoI'll be curious to see how much Git-LFS is offered. I've been using Gitlab for private repos, but I need LFS as well. Also, will be curious to see the pricing structure - if this changes anything. The sad thing about Github is I always liked it more than competition, and I wanted to pay, but the price felt a bit steep for my usage. Since private will now be free, I hope they have some type of $4/m price range for solo devs, slightly better than free.
- ACow_Adonis 8y agoFrom my own perspective,this results in me doing two things: - cancelling my paid subscription: but in truth I was planning to do this anyway and moving to self-hosted in some way...I just wasnt getting relative value paying to just have private repositories for my own projects (I don't want contributors, but that doesn't mean I want my work to be public). - but I will now as a result keep my repositories and activities on github. So this is a win for me: less work for now.
- vortico 8y agoSo what commercial service will GitHub offer to monetize at all? Ads? Data collection? I don't see a reason for anyone to pay for GitHub now.
- jcoffland 8y agoThis seems like a negative for Open-Source.
- dmix 8y agoThat sucks. I just bought a 1yr subscription last week...will they issue refunds?
- projectramo 8y agoWow. So now it is as good as GitLab!
- itsbits 8y agoI don't understand. I can see it was published 2 days ago but author says it he mistakenly published 1 day before announcement. So Announcement should have happened if it's for real?..Is this for real ?
- stevev 8y agoWhen your competitors (bitbucket/git lab) have been offering the same thing for a while now, it only makes sense.
- johnvega 8y agoThis was the reason why I mostly use GitLab for several years now. I prefer to make public those code that are refactored, well crafted and documented.
- huac 8y agoMy strategy of avoiding this banner paid off: https://cl.ly/224133cb505d https://cl.ly/224133cb505d
- cturhan 8y agoHaha, same here.
- bravura 8y ago"Private repositories on free accounts are limited to three collaborators apiece." So let's be clear here. If I have 10 private repos, I can have 30 collaborators? Or they must be the same three.
- jmkni 8y agoAlso, if you fork a private repo, I wonder if that’s 3 new collaborators? Could you have essentially unlimited collaborators by forking for each person and having them submit pull requests?
- nathancahill 8y agoIf all collaborators have their one copy of the repo, you no longer need GitHub, because there's no longer a centralized repo. Just use git.
- Voloskaya 8y agoThey don't have to be the same. Any "team" working on a private repo cannot be bigger than 3 collaborators.
- siminuk 8y agoHi! I work at GitHub. Private repositories on free accounts are limited to three collaborators per repository, not including the owner. So, in your example, if you have 10 private repos, you can have 30 collaborators, without counting you - the owner. (3 collaborators * 10 repos)
- sgc 8y agoAt most you could have 21? You are de facto a collaborator I would presume.
- koolba 8y ago27?
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- pytyper2 8y agoI always got unlimited repos, i have unlimited email accounts. it's just good opsec to run multiple accounts.
- pyrrhotech 8y agoI guess goodbye Gitlab. Only reason I used it was free private repos.
- whoisjuan 8y agoSame here.
- lauragift21 8y agoGreat News
- scarface74 8y agoJust for context. Microsoft already offers free private repos, hosted builds, etc for Visusl Studio Team Services aka Azure Devops....
- alliecat 8y agoThis makes me uncomfortable. Private subscriptions were a direct revenue stream for Github, and explained directly how they can afford the infrastructure that provides the service. Generally when previously paid stuff becomes free, it's because the paid service is no longer a product - it's now a tool to attract users. How will users be monetised now?
- globetrotter33m 8y agoThink of it as marketing expense to attract people that went to Bitbucket and Gitlab. A % of these users will convert to a paid plan. No need to get concerned here.
- tonyedgecombe 8y agoHow will users be monetised now? Selling Azure services.
- jswrenn 8y agoGithub's team pricing is per-user and non-negligible: https://github.com/pricing https://github.com/pricing
- gmueckl 8y agoRandom, entirely baseless speculation: they want all to put all your code to do machine learning on. Seems like ML based code checking and refactoring tools are slowly becoming a thing. Imagine an assistant that tells you something like "what you are writing right now might be bad code because 80% of similar instances were later modified based on bug reports and this is how that would look like for your code"
- thin-izzy 8y agoThat would be cool. Microsoft has already made a plugin for Visual Studio that trains on your code to improve IntelliSense code completion.
- _emacsomancer_ 8y agoSo maybe we should create a bunch of private Github repos and fill them with spurious 'good code' and spurious 'bad code'?
- sytse 8y agoI think it is great for users that private repos are now free up to three users. This is especially great if you're starting to program and don't want to feel ashamed of your code but don't have a paid account. I like to think that increased competition from us (GitLab) contributed to this change, we recently passed 10m repositories on GitLab.com At GitLab we think that repositories will become a commodity and we're focussing on making a single application for the entire DevOps lifecycle. I think Microsoft will try to generate revenue with people using Azure more instead of paying for repos. Also see our blog post https://about.gitlab.com/2019/01/07/github-offering-free-private-repos-for-up-to-three-collaborators/ https://about.gitlab.com/2019/01/07/github-offering-free-pri...
- jmurzy 8y agoAre people really ashamed of their code? How are they even able to assess the quality of their code especially when they are just getting started? It feels sort of a Catch-22. Also, how does making private repos free help here? I think a more encouraging move would be to have people with all experiences share as much of their progress as possible so that people who are getting started can find inspiration and learn to overcome their "imposter" feelings.
- ar_lan 8y agoHm... not working for me :(
- DataJunkie 8y agoWOOHOO!
- mongol 8y agoHas anyone here used AWS CodeCommit?
- danbrooks 8y agoBest part of my day!
- echelon 8y agoI was just about to move everything to Gitlab for this very reason. I've always preferred Github, so this is fantastic. Thanks, Microsoft!
- jMyles 8y agoSo, Microsoft cares more about capturing the complete social graph of the software community than it does about direct revenue from an already not-very profitable (or perhaps not at all profitable?) acquisition. Got it.
- Joeri 8y agoMicrosoft has both linkedin and github, meaning they have the social graph of the government, business and the technology spheres. That social graph is arguably even more valuable in terms of revenue opportunities than facebook's. Direct revenue of linkedin and github might as well be irrelevant.
- jMyles 8y agoYeah, that's exactly what I'm thinking. So, what's their social graph play?
- Kadin 8y agoI don't think this is a "social graph play". I think it's about them realizing that the small amount of revenue they get from individual subscriptions is worth less than the free advertising/marketing they get by making it free for individuals, and then letting developers advocate for GH inside organizations which end up buying Enterprise licenses. This is more about getting people to use (or keep using) GitHub for their personal projects so that it seems like a natural/obvious/default choice for a bigger-budget project, and that's where the revenue is.
- throwaway74104 8y agoAnd Microsoft is in good relationship with the government and agencies. Guess how valuable is that data for them :) And guess what they want... "Private code to know what people are working on."
- cturhan 8y agoJust in time! My free academic discount expired a month ago. I was thinking to subscribe $7/month but it seems like I won't need to pay. I was even sold to 10 private repos with 1 dev shared :)
- neom 8y ago"Due to a scheduling error, we published this story one day before the embargo lifted. This feature isn’t live yet, but Github will formally unveil it tomorrow. When that happens, we’ll update this post with a link to the official announcement. " Not even an apology in there, would have expected more from TNW.
- darylfritz 8y agoNobody has mentioned the official GitHub announcement yet? https://blog.github.com/2019-01-07-new-year-new-github/ https://blog.github.com/2019-01-07-new-year-new-github/
- xucheng 8y agoOfficial announcement https://blog.github.com/2019-01-07-new-year-new-github/ https://blog.github.com/2019-01-07-new-year-new-github/
- yashness 8y agohttps://blog.github.com/2019-01-07-new-year-new-github/ https://blog.github.com/2019-01-07-new-year-new-github/
- JCharante 8y agoUnlimited private repos was why at some point I used Gitlab, and why I was grateful that my email address from an old educational institution still worked. I'm glad that they're making this change.
- PakG1 8y agoI know the new Microsoft seems different (and I'm a fan), but I can't help but feel like we've seen this movie before. Recall back when Internet Explorer was free and bundled with Windows, and there was a whole antitrust lawsuit over it by the Department of Justice. What was old is new again.
- winter_squirrel 8y agoIs that really comparable? Github's competitors were already offering free private repo so it's only natural that they try and keep up with the market.
- jahewson 8y agoThe lawsuit wasn’t because it was free. The lawsuit was because IE (a web browser with a weak market position) was bundled with Windows (an OS with a dominant, almost monopoly position).
- RileyJames 8y agoOne of the few online services I saw enough value in to pay for. I guess I can stop now. Sweet deal.
- iambateman 8y agoA lot of people are concerned about the “what if they make me the product since I’m no longer paying.” A few reasons I don’t think that will happen: - private, single contributor repos tend to be pretty small. it costs Github very little to service a single account. - Github is a growing social network for developers. Getting young engineers on the platform for free will pay off handsomely when they join a team and automatically assume Github is their code storage tool of choice. - Microsoft gets the reputation points for running the de facto developer social network (other than Stack Overflow). GitHub is in the strange position of being both a successful enterprise product AND a social network. What other product exists with that kind of crossover? Microsoft will continue to optimize their enterprise revenue from GH and I think this is a tremendous step forward toward building the network long term.
- maxander 8y agoAll true, but why mot data mine too, while they’re at it? If you’re not the customer you’re a product... but it doesn’t follow that, if you are the customer, you’re not also a product.
- iambateman 8y agoSure. My point is that I expect them to be respectful, not avaricious. Microsoft's knows they ought not piss off 28 million developers.
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- sangnoir 8y ago...or else what? Are the developers going to mass-migrate to SourceForge?[1] Github has a lot of leeway/social capital - they are hardcoded into the infrastructure both literally and figuratively. edit: 1. I literally forgot about Gitlab as a Github substitute when I wrote the comment, interpret that as you may.
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- aarongray 8y agoI have been a vocal critic of Microsoft acquiring GitHub, but gotta give credit where credit is due - this might be enough for me to move my private repos back to GitHub.
- cdnsteve 8y agoYES! * runs off to finally push that Hello World app into a private repo :D
- xte 8y agoI do not want to depend on any proprietary platform, it doesn't matter if it's friendly or not. I favor a distributed model as much as possible, that means for now having personal/projects classic websites, mirrored for instance on ZeroNet&c and source code exchanged as much as possible only P2P. It's not comfortable now but that's the sole possible free evolution path we have and only investing in it now can ease situation tomorrow.
- digianarchist 8y agoGit is a Distributed Version Control System. Just add another remote...
- xte 8y agoOf course, like the trend "hey if it does not work for you write down your code"... On git only: what is another remote? A GitHub concurrent company? A personal dyndns from a single developer with a fable ADSL? On GitHub: many use it's proprietary characteristics like PR, wikies, pages etc. That's not "portable" to any other remote if you do not count site-scraping... No, we need to focus on distributed/decentralized solution now. In the past at least we use tons of different hosting most of them offered by ISP that actually use hosted projects, universities that actually participate in many FOSS project so while not distributed we are decentralized on "friendly" systems. Not nearly all FOSS project is on a super-big-corp server. Without any viable alternative ready to use.
- mroche 8y ago> On git only: what is another remote? A remote is a URL location of a repository. A local git repo can point to multiple remotes by using the git remote <opts> functionality. For instance, you can point your local repo to GitHub, GitLab, and BitBucket and choose which to push to using the command git push <branch> <remote>.
- xte 8y agoHem, no perhaps is my poor English but you do not understand: I know what a git remote is. My point is what kind of "other remote" a typical FOSS project have these days? In the past we have tons of hosters so we can easily spread our code in many "mirror", now there is GitHub and few others, mostly on the very same "cloud". I mean you have no damn viable remote. Single devs can share code P2P but nothing that can work instantly out of the box.
- TekMol 8y ago"private" in the sense that only you and Microsoft can access it :)
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- androidgirl 8y agoThis is awesome! I used to start my repos on Gitlab in private mode before publishing them publicly on Github. A huge time saver here!
- abricot 8y agoOn the free plan gihub Pages still only works in public repos.
- ausjke 8y agoThis is not about revenue percentage or anything revolutionary etc, this is about matching up competition offers: both gitlab and bitbucket are doing this, especially bitbucket who has unlimited private repo from the start, this is a catch-up move, nothing more than that.
- thrownaway954 8y agoLOL!!! I was literally just having a conversation with a colleague to pay the $7 a month to github so he can have private repos to publish his code. Now all Microsoft has to do is buy up StackOverflow and they will corner the developer social market.
- tracker1 8y agoGiven github + so + linkedin, it may make total sense for them. Not sure if I want MS in that position. They aren't the MS of old, I'm just not sure I want them that involved in the developer jobs market, more than they already are.
- CrankyBear 8y agoThose free private repos don't include pages, wikis, or repo insights. The "new" $7 pro do.
- michaelcampbell 8y agoThat would have been cool before I moved all my private stuff to gitlab.com. Ah well, too late.
- darpa_escapee 8y agoGood timing. I switched over to GitLab this morning to host my dotfiles because I have no other use for private repos on my personal GitHub account.
- abhij89 8y agoI am pretty sure, bitbucket is going to get hurt with this move, and a little hurt for gitlab too I suspect. But a very smart move specially for individual developers looking to work on small side projects.
- johnwyles 8y agowhew! so many future and present half-finished projects should start disappearing (including mine)! woohoo!
- the_unknown 8y agoI've been using BitBucket for years because it allowed me to do a free private account. Since then I've set 3 companies up with their own accounts there - the monthly spend isn't huge with any of them but that's money that would have been going to Microsoft had GitHub had a free starter option.
- noarchy 8y agoOne fear that has come to mind: Microsoft pulls a Google and tries to force Github and LinkedIn to work together somehow - like requiring a login from one to use the other. I hope they have the presence of mind to not poison Github with LinkedIn in any way.
- miguelmota 8y agoThe power of free stuff Jun 4 2018: (microsoft acquisition) Github sucks! Jan 7 2019: (free repos) Github rocks!
- adtac 8y agoOr, you know, they're different people.
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- cjohansson 8y agoIt’s all about developers, developers. Microsoft is desperately trying to attract developers since many have left their platforms, GitHub doesn’t need to be profitable on it’s own for Microsofts sake
- hermantwa 8y agoGotta put your hands on that juicy data.
- bunkydoo 8y agoI've been waiting so long for this - thanks and big up to github. Really appreciate this guys
- gigatexal 8y agoWow. Since Microsoft bought them they’re doing a lot of really interesting things. If I was going to move my repos somewhere I’m not going to anymore.
- Kagerjay 8y agoI only have github base level membership for private repos Does this mean I no longer have to pay for these services?
- bqkfbe 8y agoGood bye GitLab.com, free private repos was the only reason I used it. UX is really terrible in comparison. Will be migrating all personal projects to GitHub, happy times!
- neuralFatigue 8y agoIs `git clone <private repo SSH url>` for private repos broken for anyone else ?
- ziont 8y agono longer need bitbucket
- wetpaws 8y agoUh oh, my dear bitbucket
- STRiDEX 8y agoIs this the ultimate evernote killer? I feel like every note hosting platform for technical notes will be second to this.
- goerz 8y agoAre the "PRO" badges that have been showing up on Github profiles today in any way related to this?
- hero76 8y agoi can hide my shitty code.
- etxm 8y agoDoes anyone know if they are “auto downgrading accounts” if you currently pay for private repos?
- ackidacki 8y agoIs this even a surprise, the industry moved to a per user model a while back, inc Bitbucket. So its unlimited private repositories but you pay big time to get more than 5 users sharing that repo. It's surprising most people here aren't picking up on that. If you have more private projects on that make money. It's more likely you have more collaborators that you have to pay.
- quangv 8y agoI notice that "wikis" for private repos isn't supported. What happens to these wikis when I downgrade?
- avivo 8y agoI just discovered I can't downgrade because I have at least one repo with over three collaborators. Has anyone figured out a quick way to determine which are the problem repos? (I have a lot!)
- robertlf 8y agoI'm sticking with Bitbucket. It works just fine for me.
- anonytrary 8y agoI probably won't move to Gitlab or Bitbucket, then. This was the number one reason why I was considering it, now I can finally have personal private projects on Github. Good move on Microsoft's part.
- eddieone 8y agoI canceled my subscription, $7 for a UI to a git server. It was kind of lazy tax on individuals. What bothers me is that this move didn't seem as well planned and prepared for than previous changes, not a good sign. github has a certain flow, hope MS doesn't destroy that.
- mark_l_watson 8y agoWell, I think this is a pleasant surprise. I have many public github projects (code for various books I have written and a bunch of small open source projects). I have paid for a pro plan for many years because I like to keep very rough code experiments private, and maybe make them public if they ever get sufficiently mature. I just took Microsoft/github up on their kind new deal and cancelled my pro plan at the end of the current yearly billing period. Thanks Microsoft/github!
- mehrdadn 8y agoI wanted to take a moment to point something out. I think most people here would agree that "unlimited free private repos" is not considered lying when in fact the free private repos are limited to 3 collaborators... correct? So why is it that when the subject turns to cell phone data, suddenly "unlimited data" is considered lying when the speed is then limited past a certain point? (Yes, I get that one service is paid and the other is free, and that you don't look a gift horse in the mouth, but those are beside my point.)
- adrianmonk 8y agoAnother difference is that, with GitHub's announcement, there are multiple ways to interpret it because there are different things that the modifier "unlimited" could apply to. It could mean: 1. Unlimited number of repos, each of which is limited (by user, as it turns out). 2. Limited number of repos, each of which is unlimited. 3. Unlimited number of unlimited repos. When there are multiple ways to interpret and you find out someone has picked one of them, it doesn't feel like they are being disingenuous. Whereas with cell data plans, there's only one thing they could reasonably mean is unlimited: the data. So they've changed what "unlimited" means. It is limited, but there aren't overage charges.
- mehrdadn 8y agoIn cell plans it's exactly the same thing though. The amount of data vs. the speed can each be artificially limited separately. They obviously mean the amount is unlimited whereas people somehow take it to mean both the amount and the speed are unlimited.
- clhodapp 8y agoI think that with GitHub the "unlimited" is understood to mean "in repo count". You can create as many repos as you want and still get the same quality of service. You are not punished for creating more repos, you just have some limitations on (all) the repos you can create. With cell phone data, "unlimited" is understood to mean "in quantity". However, once you reach a not-all-that-hard-to-hit threshold in that same metric, your quality of service degrades severely. I don't think anyone would have any issue if a carrier sold an "unlimited data" plan that provided that degraded quality of service from the start and didn't throttle based on actual usage. They would just factor the tradeoff into their purchasing decision and choose a plan appropriately. The problem is that the carriers advertise both the higher speed and the unlimited-ness when you can't actually have both at the same time.
- ngcc_hk 8y agoI have to recall why I paid instead of using bitbucket 5 years ago this which also have private repo free (for 5 accounts if I remember correctly). I think it is easier to use and more common even then.
- dejaime 8y agoAnd now that is a good move. I completely moved my repos to BitBucket due to that simple yet game-changing feature (and then to GitLab for not so simple ones). I don't think I ever would have, if github had this. Not coming back though.
- bkrishnan 8y agoBitbucket has had free private repos for the longest time. Any compelling reason to move small private projects to GitHub?
- arthurcolle 8y agoCool, immediately downgraded to free account. Any chance of refunds for the last 6 months I was forced to pay?
- karmakaze 8y agoIn case anyone's curious about mirroring Github <-> Gitlab, there's a doc page[0] for it. [0] http://docs.gitlab.com/ee/workflow/repository_mirroring.html http://docs.gitlab.com/ee/workflow/repository_mirroring.html
- mroche 8y agoThis is what I do for anything I make that I think would be easier to find on GitHub. And vice versa for my own build tools so I can accumulate the projects I use from GH under one group on GitLab.
- HaoZeke 8y agoAm I the only person who thinks this isn't a big deal? Honestly get is not a personal storage space, it's capped at 1GB. As a service anything I build privately will need more than three collaborators. Especially for things which are traditionally kept secret like academic software. Maybe this might help freelancers but proliferationf private repos with very few contributors is an anti pattern. Gitlab is still the clear winner for private use while Github remains the most active for public repos. Nothing has changed.
- mherrmann 8y agoWhat a clever move. They probably make most of their revenue from medium to large companies, which will not be affected by this switch. At the same time, they're taking away one of the USPs of many competitors. This will increase GitHub's domination of the space even more, and thus be a net positive, despite the foregone revenue.
- chirau 8y agoEntitled mofos. Leave the platform if you are skeptical about everything. There are plenty of options out there. Take a good thing for a good thing for once hey, HN!
- zzz6519003 8y agokind of obeying open-source spirit
- jjakque 8y agoTo me, the biggest revelation out of this news was actually finding out both BitBucket and GitLab already offers unlimited free private repos. I am now highly incentivised to move away from self-hosted git server in order to store my micro project repos which are heading to 3 digits.
- m0zg 8y agoMicrosoft just gave me $84/yr. Thanks, Microsoft. Almost as much as I'm paying them for Office and 1TB of SkyDrive in fact.
- revskill 8y agoRIP Gitlab.
- ralphc 8y agook, for my $84 a year I'm now on "Github pro". What does "pro" get me beyond private repositories? Anything a solo developer would want?
- tfha 8y agoIf only the code was open source
- xaduha 8y agoAnd I just got Gitea working on my ARM mini-server.
- happppy 8y agoAT LAST.
- fiveFeet 8y agoMy employer, a financial services firm in New York, blocks both gitlab and bitbucket due to their free private repos. Even though they allowed github until now, I am worried that they will soon start blocking that as well! :(
- johnabela 8y agoWeehoo, free private repos!!!
- nfrankel 8y agoI don't understand that much awe. BitBucket offers unlimited private repos for up to 5 contributors, and GitLab has no limit. Much ado about nothing...
- dogweather 8y agoIs there a difference in the features between GitLab's free public vs. private repos? On GitHub, there is, but the blog post glosses over that.
- stevekemp 8y agoBitBucket has a terrible UI, historically suffers from outages, and is owned by Atlassian which is yet another downside.
- arcturus17 8y agoAnd yet despite that GitHub remained much bigger than these two. It's a big deal because this might dig the moat further.
- dogweather 8y agoI think I'm the only person who's noticed that these free private repos are 2nd tier, with features removed; the marketing glosses over that.
- jakebasile 8y agoThe press release barely mentions it but it's true. The free private repos are cut down, including bizarre hold-backs like wikis. GitHub's wikis aren't great, but why hold them back? It's kind of mind boggling.
- dogweather 8y agoYou got it. Only the detailed pricing compared has what might be the full list of features removed. You have to scroll down ... https://github.com/pricing#feature-comparison https://github.com/pricing#feature-comparison And look for the "Public repositories" note in the table.
- Arnavion 8y agoPublic repo wikis would get read by an arbitrary number of people. Private repo wikis would only get read by the 1 to 3 repo collaborators. So perhaps they thought it wouldn't be a big deal to disallow them.
- jakebasile 8y agoBut if it's such a small deal, why remove it?
- h1d 8y agoIt's funny to think people trust 3rd party to hold their proprietary source code which could be your biggest IP. I'm hosting my own Gitea for business related codes.
- gsaga 8y agoIsn't that 3 contributor limit just a virtual limit. Assume there are 5 contributors (A, B, C, D, E) for a project. The organization could do this: 1. Create two private copies of that repository 2. A, B, C contribute to the first repository 3. C, D, E contribute to the second repository. 4. C will maintain the synchronization 5. One could write scripts for performing synchronization.
- inapis 8y agoFew people, if any, have the time and willingness to do such stuff.
- eyeareque 8y agoThanks Microsoft, you just saved me $84 dollars a year. I just cancelled my paid account.
- rmc 8y agoRemember SourceForge?
- pasxizeis 8y agoI'm wondering if there's any chance that people that paid for the Pro plan a few days ago, get a refund.
- michalu 8y agoNothing unusual just standard Microsoft, first kill the competition (Gitlab) then when you're a monopoly f*ck users over ... they did this with IE, windows, etc.
- vinay_ys 8y agoIs there a reason to use github free over gitlab free for private projects? From what I can tell, gitlab has much better features and more features/limits available for free.
- dsumenkovic 8y agoHey Vinay, there's also a notable difference, at GitLab you don't have a limit to 3 user per private project.
- zubspace 8y agoDoes this somehow apply to git-lfs, too? This is quite important for game development, where binary assets grow faster than you can think. Azure DevOps includes unlimited, private lfs-storage for small teams. [1] I also wonder how microsoft prevents abuse in such an environment, but that's another question... [1] https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/devops/2015/10/01/announcing-git-lfs-on-all-vso-git-repos/ https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/devops/2015/10/01/announcin...
- badsavage 8y agoMany people will choose private then -> less public repositories. Github looses its essence.
- nathanyukai 8y agoI don't think so, If it's a public repository that means the owner have more confidence and willing to collaborate, which is a good thing. Also, free private repository -> more developers -> more repositories
- badsavage 8y agoGood point
- danielmarklund 8y agoThis means: GitHub now also offers unlimited free web hosting - with free SSL certificates! Look into GitHub Pages and Jekyll. That is a big deal! And something most people overlook.