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Samsung to Permanently Discontinue Galaxy Note 7 Smartphone
- danso 10y agoFor folks who can't get past the WSJ paywall: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/12/business/international/samsung-galaxy-note7-terminated.html http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/12/business/international/sam... > SEOUL — Samsung Electronics is terminating production of its troubled Galaxy Note 7 smartphone, according to a person familiar with the decision, in a major and embarrassing about-face for the South Korean electronics giant. > In a statement filed with the country’s stock exchange late Tuesday, Samsung said it had made a “final decision” to stop production. That means the company will no longer produce or market the smartphone, said the person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because Samsung did not publicly disclose further information about the decision.
- kenny_r 10y agoFYI: HN has a recent feature where there's a link labeled "web" under the article link, which brings you to a web search. Clicking the first result will bypass the paywall.
- danso 10y agoIn other threads (as of yesterday), people claimed that this wasn't working for them. Still works for me, though.
- amyjess 10y agoSometimes it works for me, sometimes it doesn't. WSJ should not be classified as having an easily-bypassable paywall.
- pfortuny 10y agoSorry, where is that? Cannot see at all and the link in the title sends me to the paywall. Thanks.
- QuantumRoar 10y agoHow does that even work?
- toyg 10y agoMost paywalls check the request referral and let it through when it comes from the big search engines. This ensures they will remain listed and hence relevant.
- oneeyedpigeon 10y agoIt's a by-product of the broken paywall model. Sites want to protect their content, but they still want traffic to their site. Checking that the referrer is a search engine is a weird middle-way workaround.
- dexterdog 10y agoJust use a referer switcher like Referer Control on Chrome.
- kuschku 10y agoNot anymore, that was true once, but doesn't work for me anymore (Germany).
- yitchelle 10y agoWorks for me. Also from Germany here.
- muterad_murilax 10y agoIncognito mode does the trick.
- danso 10y agoJust VPNed into a German ISP and it worked for me. Are you using a plugin that blocks the referrer?
- Matt3o12_ 10y agoPaywalls only have to allow you visit their site 3 times a day for free if you come from google [0]. It might not work because you have visited more then 3 articles already today. Deleting your cookies or entering the private mode of your browser should do the trick, though. [0]
- kuschku 10y agoI haven’t visited their site at all in the entire past week.
- snarfy 10y agoIt doesn't work on mobile. Please stop linking to WSJ.
- NicoJuicy 10y agoExactly the same thoughts as me https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12683017 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12683017
- NicoJuicy 10y agoLet's discuss paywalled articles and their place on HN? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12683017 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12683017
- dexterdog 10y agoFor folks who can't get past the paywalls that bypass themselves for google searches and google news: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/referer-control/hnkcfpcejkafcihlgbojoidoihckciin https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/referer-control/hn...
- 2T1Qka0rEiPr 10y agoSees paywall - Google's URL - Gets past paywall
- ljf 10y agoThat is also what the 'web' link at the top of this page below the title is for ;)
- 2T1Qka0rEiPr 10y agoTIL! Thanks :)
- minikites 10y agoNow the question is, will they just re-release the same thing as the "Galaxy Note 8"?
- revanx_ 10y agoUnder the same brand? :)
- danso 10y agoEven if they can figure out the problem and fix it to the point that they can offer refurbished Note 7s, seems risky. Unless they decide to actively brick existing Notes, there's the likelihood that some existing users will just hold on to their unfixed Note 7s. If these unfixed phones were to explode, it'd take days for authorities to confirm that they weren't the refurbished/fixed versions, and we'd have the same cycle of confusion and negative PR that Samsung is currently undergoing.
- RGamma 10y agoMaybe next time they'll offer replaceable batteries, which would have made this situation much less painful and is generally a plus for consumers anyway...
- mcculley 10y agoTo make the battery replaceable while still providing the same amount of energy would require a thicker case around the battery, thicker contacts, and a discrete accessible compartment in the phone. All of this adds up to a much bigger phone. The days of replaceable batteries are over.
- tmd83 10y agoAnd do you think it would still provide a tangible disadvantage to the user apart from maybe a style statement? The only relevant change I feel would be that it might get easier to keep in your hand.
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- on_and_off 10y agoDamn. That's one major failure. Now I really want a postmortem on the real cause of these fires.
- RGamma 10y agoApparently some rare manufacturing fault that put pressure on internal poles, short-circuiting the battery: https://www.cnet.com/news/why-is-samsung-galaxy-note-7-exploding-overheating/ https://www.cnet.com/news/why-is-samsung-galaxy-note-7-explo...
- walterbell 10y agoStill unclear why some replacements (which have batteries from a different supplier) are exhibiting a similar failure mode.
- aqzman 10y agoCould it have been an issue with the deign of the battery itself, so the failure would happen regardless of who manufactured the battery?
- walterbell 10y agoWhy do batteries need to be unique for each model? Some laptop lines (e.g. Lenovo) share removable batteries among models with similar power needs. Same used to be true of phones which had removable batteries from the same phone vendor.
- Zelmor 10y agoBecause everybody wants to be special. Size, weight, optimalization, screen edge corner angle, etc. It is a senseless, unsustainable development practice that creates much waste each year. Nobody seems to look at the future, everybody just wants to win in the here and now. 4 degrees later, we are all gone. The batteries remain, for a while. In 2135 CE, the last Samsung battery too will catch fire, starting an unstoppable wildfire that will consume much of Eurasia, along with whoever survived the previous social collapse. Then, only ashes will remain. Fuck the pandas, save ourselves.
- lmm 10y agoGuess I'm glad I gave up and bought the S7 Edge instead. At least it still has a MicroSD slot, which was my biggest reason for sticking to the Note line.
- dingo_bat 10y agoMicro sd ftw. It makes my bugging decision very easy. I list all the flagships and check which one has micro sd. Then I buy it.
- Insanity 10y agoWouldn't want to be working in that division right now. I'm assuming they'll try to sprint asap to a follow-up or a replacement. The longer they wait, the more they lose to other vendors I am assuming. And the bad publicity must be causing quite a headache as well. Nevertheless, their other phones have been good (and I'm assuming that apart from catching fire this one was as well, though catching fire is a pretty big downside).
- ff10 10y agoSprint to a replacement? To basically do the same mistake twice (or thrice if you will)? My bet is that they'll retreat and introduce the basic concept in/as another brand next year.
- yitchelle 10y agoCouldn't they replace the defective design from their other product lines? What is the actual root cause, battery or controlling electronics?
- piyush_soni 10y agoOfficially, no one knows, though there are theories. Samsung has said they are investigating it.
- d33 10y agoPerhaps they ended up with this problem precisely because they rushed?
- mtgx 10y agoThey did rush - they launched Note 7 a year ahead of its time (last year we had Note 5) when they were only supposed to release Note 6. That takes, dare I say, courage. (just a joke, they just skipped the number 6 to put it in line with the Galaxy S generation).
- PaulRobinson 10y ago[drip, drip, drip, drip, drip…] They have spent a huge amount of money on marketing this phone. I wrote a week or so back it could be the end of Samsung and people told me I was an idiot - they make so many other things, their spread is so broad, they can just produce the next phone and move on. This has done untold damage to their brand in the eyes of the average consumer and has wasted so much money, I think they are going to need to get smart, and quickly. First, all those sales are now refunded. That is going to hurt cashflow and cause ripples across the entire business. Sure, it's not going to hurt some of their industrial projects but hampered cash flow is like having a respiratory disease: most people who get pneumonia don't die of the pneumonia, but organs shutting down because of the lack of oxygen they get as a result of the pneumonia. Secondly, a lot of marketing dollars are now wasted, gone. They did a global campaign around the Olympics for this phone - it doesn't get much bigger. Just be glad that they didn't launch this in early February otherwise they would have taken every Super Bowl slot available. Those who do remember their advertising around this spend will remember it as them talking about a phone that scared airlines into thinking it might take down an aircraft. Finally, many consumers won't buy Samsung phones again as a minimum when they're first released, maybe never as a worst case scenario. This has done long-term damage, we can't deny it. I know a lot of people are fans of Samsung, and it's true they are a great company, but objectively this has got to be damaging to them.
- drcross 10y agoThe Note was not a flagship line. Samsung has so many other industries that I think it will do just fine in the long run.
- NicoJuicy 10y agoThis is the second article i can't access in a short time. Please consider changing the url to the nytimes article or deleting the article on itselve. I don't think HN should contain links to paywalled sites like wsj.com
- ljf 10y agoClick on 'web' link below the title above, this will take you to a google search for the story, which generally allows you to read the full story (for SEO purposes)
- NicoJuicy 10y agoThis doesn't help anymore ( or it is because i already surfed to it). But i read that it is not possible anymore on another topic https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12680380#unv_12680507 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12680380#unv_12680507 They "upgraded" their paywall game. Also, the first topic with the most votes is ALWAYS a link to another article with the same information or a TLDR; for those who can't access the paywalled article. Please just ban the wsj domain, so people would search for an alternative article immediatly. This is, after all, what wsj seems to want :)
- oneeyedpigeon 10y agoI second the banning of paywalled domains; trying to maintain hacks and workarounds for each and every popular third-party just doesn't seem worth it in the long-run. HN should be for open discussion on content that is freely available to all rather than locked down.
- NicoJuicy 10y agoLet's discuss? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12683017 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12683017
- cronjobber 10y agoYet by not banning WSJ, maybe HN is making people annoyed at WSJ, damaging their brand, driving traffic to competitors, and teaching people to just rely on peer provided TLDRs instead of journalists, all of which might hurt WSJ more than just banning them... I guess we'll never know :)
- simonh 10y agoThey still haven't actually started a recall of the 'fixed'versions of the device though. I know people who bought them from carriers can get refunds/replacements but some buyers on Samsung's own web store have already been waiting weeks to arrange replacement or refunds of the v1 devices. Manufacturing defects happen. Design defects happen. Even criminal activities by employees happen, but it's up to the leadership and the culture of the company to get on top of these issues and steer the ship back on course. Overall Samsung has a decent reputation at competently engineering phones and batteries. But the way they've handled their responsibility for this issue is inexcusable. Ceasing manufacturing is about managing their own costs. What are they doing to actually help their customers?
- hrrsn 10y agoThe replacement/fixed versions are also being recalled. https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-will-ask-all-global-partners-to-stop-sales-and-exchanges-of-galaxy-note7-while-further-investigation-takes-place https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-will-ask-all-global-... http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/ http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/
- simonh 10y agoThat's not what the Verge article says. Verizon is taking back devices that they have sold, as are other carriers, but Samsung has not issued a recall of the replacement Note 7 devices. Offering refunds to customers isn't the same as issuing a formal recall of all devices. They're doing the absolute minimum they can possibly get away with and trying to sweep the 'fixed' replacement Note 7 situation under the carpet. At best they might be trying to put the replacement Note 7 non-recall recall under the umbrella of the original Note 7 recall, in order to avoid the embarrassment of issuing two formal recalls. But that's pure bullshit.
- hrrsn 10y agoSorry, updated with a better link from Samsung directly.
- finchisko 10y agoNote 7 could have one day extremely high value as rare device.
- kristopolous 10y agoI would honestly expect the supply to outstrip the demand quite quickly ... however it looks like ebay prices are still pretty respectable. At least for me, the fire risk would make me entertain the other less flammable options in the vast market of android devices - regardless of a pricing point. The thought that it could combust into flames unsupervised while I'm say, in the shower is enough to make me really not want it. I know the chances are small but reputation goes a long way especially if that reputation is "may explode".
- yitchelle 10y agoAny remaining units left in the wild will probably be in pristine condition as the owner will be too scared to turn it on.
- gchokov 10y agoUnless it starts fire by itself. "Could explode any moment now, get it while hot"
- neximo64 10y agoIn other news Apple stock surges, despite the iPhone 7 falling short of expectations.
- jmedwards 10y agoIt probably won't fall short of the expectations of people who matter.
- shostack 10y agoAnd finally the Samsung stock price reflects the news. It was pretty fascinating to watch it hit its all-time high on 10/7. From what I read it seems that a relatively small percentage of their revenue is impacted by this, so investors aren't that rattled. I'm not one to try and time the market, but if I were to gamble, this might be a fun one to try to get in on now.
- Mikeb85 10y agoTo be fair, Samsung sells a hell of a lot more than smartphones. They're a giant conglomerate that sells everything under the sun, and manufactures for half the electronics industry.
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- lesserknowndan 10y agoI was of the understanding that everyone's expectations re the iPhone 7 were already pretty low. They made sure that the lack of an audio plug was leaked well before the official announcement... I'm wondering how this news will affect sales of Googles new phones.
- draw_down 10y agoIt met the expectation of not exploding, so in this context I'm not sure what your point is.
- transfire 10y agoOuch. So my bet is that Samsung is going to get serious about new battery tech and come out with a new set of devices in a couple of years touting their "revolutionary" new power system. If we're lucky it will be ultra-capacitors that charge in seconds rather than hours. Unfortunately that tech still has 5x less capacity than lithiums.
- metafunctor 10y agoThe subject says it all, but am I the only one who isn't a subscriber of the Wall Street Journal? Is there no free source on the Internet for this same piece of news? I'm not saying everything should be free. I build paid-for services on the web myself. But how is “To Read the Full Story, Subscribe or Sign In” useful on the Hacker News?
- quantumhobbit 10y agoUse the web link at the top. Even better is that you get an AMP version of the story.
- metafunctor 10y agoThe web link at which top? The link on news.ycombinator.com, which I was responding to, goes to a paywall teaser.
- d0ugal 10y ago"94 points by dcgudeman 1 hour ago | flag | hide | past | web | 95 comments | favorite" The "web" in this line, just below the title. It takes you to a google search.
- ericzawo 10y agoThe link at the top of the google result of the headline you should search. (But if you enjoy the WSJ, consider picking up a subscription or a paper from time to time.) :)
- robteix 10y agoJust below the headline in hackernews, you'll see a small "toolbar" of links: > N points by someone 2 hours ago | flag | hide | past | web | N comments | favorite The OP was referring to the one that says "web"
- metafunctor 10y agoInteresting, didn't realize the Hacker News had a paywall workaround built in. Let's just hope Rupert Murdoch doesn't sue us all.
- gonzo41 10y agoSamsung - I want a slightly thicker phone, Square edges and a big battery that i can change out. Do this and im yours for life
- dexterdog 10y agoI really wish they would. They are the ones that listened to people who were sick of how tiny the iphone and all of its clones were and went deep on a big phone. I still have a Note 3 and have little problem with it. I had no interest in the 7 because of the curved edges which I think is a stupid thing to do with phone screens. I will probably get a Pixel at some point and switch over to fi, but if Samsung does something interesting I will consider it.
- princeb 10y agoprobably not going to change your mind, but i got a lumia 950XL which does both of that.
- dingo_bat 10y agoThey already did that with the s7 and edge. It's a bit thicker than s6 and the battery is humongous.
- XorNot 10y agoYeah but the S7 doesn't have a swappable battery. I pretty much never charge my S4 these days. I have an external battery charger at home, a charger at work, and 3 batteries. It takes about 30 seconds to swap in a new one and then my phone is at full power instantly.
- e40 10y agoThe s7 does not have a user-removable battery. http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/skp/faq/1102126 http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/skp/faq/1102126
- e40 10y agoSeriously, two people downvoted this, and it included proof?!
- donpark 10y agoBetter than prolonging agony. Fire the faulty chain of command, fix the problem then announce Galaxy Note 8.
- nebulous1 10y agoThis is going to bring a whole new meaning to the phrase "fire sale"
- basicplus2 10y agoI don't get this... Its the battery.. not the phone. Surely discontinue the battery.
- kbart 10y agoYes, I find it strange too. Why can't they simply replace the battery with some other model? Even if it's internal, replacing it would cost way less than writing off the entire line.
- lmm 10y agoThey could probably drop in a replacement with what, half the capacity? But that impacts the whole design of the 'phone. There's a huge difference between a phone that lasts one day and a phone that lasts half a day. So they'd be looking to lower the screen brightness, maybe find a less power-hungry processor and/or LTE chip,.... by the time you've finished accomodating that kind of change it's a new model anyway.
- kbart 10y ago3500 mAh doesn't strike as something astonishing. There are Chinese phones with >5000 mAh battery for sale (though I would not dare to vouch for their safety), even Galaxy S7 have 3000 mAh battery.
- newscracker 10y agoThe question is, "What replaces the absence of Galaxy Note 7 for another year or so (until the next version comes out)?" Note 5? A re-branded Note 7 with a slightly different look and hardware? Would Samsung junk the Note name and come up with some other name to bury this? My guess is that the Note name would go away completely or be superseded by a different name (with a prefix or suffix). That name now deserves to be erased and forgotten as quickly as possible.
- crudbug 10y agoThey should change the entire Note line to Galaxy N series - N8, N9 .. parallel with S7, S8 ..
- Merad 10y agoI am the only one who thinks this is an extraordinary step? Does this mean that they've identified the problem and believe that it's beyond repair? Or do they think that the Note 7 name has been so tarnished now that they just want to kill it? It's especially surprising because most people who have the phone seem to love it, aside from, y'know, the risk of spontaneous combustion.
- tootley 10y agoI do agree it seems like an extreme step. The scaled up production and manufacturing set up to make the phone must have cost a fortune. It doesn't make much value sense to discontinue just for the bad PR, so I'm thinking this may be a branding decision and Samsung will come out with another announcement in the near future with a similar phone with different branding.
- mgiannopoulos 10y agoProbably the second. After even replacement devices are having issues, the brand damage can not continue further. They'll come out in 3 months with a "Note 8" and a new chance...
- amyjess 10y agoThey might not even use the Note name next time, it's been so badly damaged. Maybe they'll revive the "Galaxy Mega" branding. Or maybe they'll come up with something new.
- mgiannopoulos 10y agoFor what's worth, their current homepage is all about "Galaxy" products http://www.samsung.com/us/ http://www.samsung.com/us/
- criddell 10y agoI think it's because of the brand damage. When you sell millions of phones, some tiny number will always have problems. Every single time that happens, the media will jump on it for yet-another-Samsung-Note-problem story. At this point, they are probably mostly worried that the damage will spread to other Samsung properties. Some news stories are already trying to connect appliance failures.
- happyslobro 10y agoThe recall notice only seems to apply to people who bought the phone in America. If you change the "us" in the url of the official notice to something else, like "ca", you get a 404. http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/ http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/ Is this recall only available in the US? Is the rest of the world basically screwed, unless their own governments put some pressure on Samsung? From the FAQ: > 4. I participated in the U.S. Note7 Exchange Program. Is my replacement Galaxy Note7 affected? > Yes. This applies to all Galaxy Note7 phones _in the U.S._ (emphasis mine)
- UnoriginalGuy 10y agoI'm not sure what you think that proves. A US URL works for the US and talks about the US? Surprising? Other countries are doing recalls too, and have pages talking about it. Here is the Taiwan URL: http://www.samsung.com/tw/news/product/galaxy-note7-announcement-1011/ http://www.samsung.com/tw/news/product/galaxy-note7-announce... Here is the Canadian URL: http://www.samsung.com/ca/note7exchange/ http://www.samsung.com/ca/note7exchange/ Here is the Australian URL: http://www.samsung.com/au/galaxynote7-notice/ http://www.samsung.com/au/galaxynote7-notice/ Here is the Chinese homepage (see the pop-out note about the Note 7 to the left): http://www.samsung.com/cn/home/ http://www.samsung.com/cn/home/ It is a global recall. You just cannot guess the URL in the way you think you should be able to.
- happyslobro 10y agoI see that you found the same outdated notice as me, when I googled: it refers to an exchange program, not a recall. Check out this foot-in-mouth quote: > Canadian Note7 Software Update showcases Note7 device is safe for use. At this point, I think that it is most likely that there will eventually be a global recall (how could there not be? that would be madness) but they just haven't gotten around to updating all of the other countries. Recalls are complex, I guess. But they should at least shut down the exchange program ASAP, that's just a waste of time at this point.
- fumar 10y agoAs a current Note 7 user, this is news bums me out. Not because the error rate of the manufactured phones may exceed safety requirements, but its the only device (tool) that has met my needs in a long time. Digital ink functionality is something I searched for since, those early Palm (PDA) days. The Surface Pro was a great answer to that as a laptop replacement. It never crossed my mind to get a Note until now. I always shied away from the Samsung line of Android devices (except for the Galaxy Nexus), due to heavy handed re-skin of the UI. I have owned almost all of the Nexus phones, except for the Nexus 4. Each of the Google-blessed devices had compromises either battery, screen, camera (always), or MVP like design. The Google Pixel announcement pushed me over the edge to try a new product line. The Pixel looks just fine and is probably a good performer, but something about it feels very Gen 1. My wife has had the Note 7 since launch, and she claims its her favorite phone to date. Note 7 it was, TMobile had them in stock after the first recall. To be honest, I have made a few changes to the Note 7 experience. After an hour or so of tweaking with the settings and installing a new launcher, I was holding a power-user Android device. It was just the right amount of stock Android and Samsung enhanced feature-set with strong hardware. In the last week, the Note has quickly replaced the Surface Pro in more "mobile" scenarios. For example, client meetings, coffee chats, and jotting down notes in a quick huddles. I am an avid note taker, I love having the ability to archive all my notes to the cloud. OneNote does a great job of converting my notes to text, allows for searchability. There is not a clear heir to the phablet throne. I have been keeping my eye on the Huawei Mate 9, Pixel XL, and a LG V20. They all have compromises and don't match the swiss-army knife approach of the Note 7. I love the idea of a master device with the ability for digital ink (S Pen) that also replaces media-consumption focused tablets (large sceen). Hopefully current Note 7 users and future ones are vocal with Samsung to keep the Note series alive. It might raise awareness to other manufacturers to create similar devices. The majority of negative sentiment is coming from non-users (not to dismiss the real threat of injury). Which holds less water than positive encouragement from the users who planned to purchase or did purchase the Note. By positive encouragement, I mean asking for Samsung to fix the issue and we will be here waiting (hopefully its a fast turnaround). I can't see myself parting with this tool. I am sure some of you here will understand when a device comes around that meets and exceeds all your niche needs, its pretty awesome! I would hate for it to disappear.
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- randiantech 10y agoThis is how you kill a brand.
- curiousdater 10y agoI guess I just bought the right yet boring phone .. the iPhone 7. The Note 7 looked crazy innovative besides full waterproofing, iris scanning..it be turned into a deadly weapon that could be used for mass destruction :-/ On a side note such a phone that floating around could be used by terrorists on planes. How will airlines handle this?
- happyslobro 10y agoAirlines are already specifically the Note 7, I saw a notice at the security check in Amsterdam (Schiphol) about it. I wouldn't be surprised if a patch goes out soon for those color-coding x-ray scanners, that automatically detects a Note 7. Having said that, this is a pretty small incendiary that we are talking about, and aircraft are several layers thick everywhere that a passenger can access. How would a terrorist actually use this to put a hole in a plane?
- happyslobro 10y agoLOLolol I just got off a Qatar Airways flight, where they made an announcement asking any passengers with a Note 7 to hand it over. But then when disembarking in DXB (Dubai), I noticed a floor to ceiling ad for the Note 7. Epic fail.
- intrasight 10y agoI wonder if the Galaxy Note 7 will in the future be a rare, valuable collectable item.
- lagadu 10y agoParticularly an unexploded one.
- intrasight 10y agoThat, and most people will send them back in order to get a refund
- Nursie 10y agoSo... Slightly OT but not 100%... For those of us wanting a phablet, what are the options right now? Pixel is, IMHO, too expensive. The Note was top-end too, but at least had Wireless charging, which I like. Now it's gone. I don't 'do' iOS. What's left? Most of the other phablets have got smaller, the Moto Z looks quite good (no QI, but otherwise great). People rave about the OnePlus 3 but the screen is low-res compared to many. I have found a device called "LeMax 2" by "Le Eco" which is dirt cheap by comparison, 5.7" QHD, snapdragon 820-based... Has anyone tried one?
- aeturnum 10y agoI see people recommend the LG V20. http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8238&idPhone2=8082 http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8238&idPhone2=...
- Nursie 10y agoIt's not clear that's ever getting a UK release, though import is a possibility. Also I'm not sold on the second screen - it adds to an already large phone. Definite possibility.
- tromp 10y agoI've been quite happy with my 7" Huawei Mediapad X1 http://consumer.huawei.com/en/tablets/MediaPadX1/index.htm http://consumer.huawei.com/en/tablets/MediaPadX1/index.htm the only downside being the batter life is reduced if you let it drop to 2%.
- flyinghamster 10y agoThe LG Stylo 2 Plus (at least the T-Mobile and MetroPCS variants) is a pretty good bet. It's not high-end, but you get a phablet-sized screen (720p), a stylus, about 2900 mAh of replaceable battery, and a decent if dumbed-down camera, with 2 GB RAM and 8 GB internal storage, and a MicroSD slot. I'd love to see a V20 with a stylus, but I don't see that happening.
- mcs_ 10y agoSo,the lesson here is Shit happens... at any scale.
- dghughes 10y agoI'm not surprised since I've seen the quality of Samsung going downhill for years. Even such things as the stupid blotware Kies and Kies air instead of just allowing you to connect the phone like a USB thumbdrive. I've rambled on about Samsung phones in the comment sections of various sites for years. The last Samsung phone I bought was an S5 I still have it I skipped the S4 before that it the S3 which was not bad except for the screen glass quality. I was impressed by the S2 the glass is nearly indestructible even my elderly dad with his pocket full of change and car keys never scratched the screen. A replacement S3 I managed to scratch about a week after getting it but before that my original S3 screen cracked from end to end suddenly. When I was at Starbucks the barista said "Hey mine did I that too!" her phone had the same exact crack pattern S shaped top right to lower left. This overall quality problem at Samsung shouldn't be a surprise. But really any modern phone cramming so much into a small thing with an enormous amount of energy crammed into a battery something had to give maybe Apple is next?
- flurpitude 10y agoMeh, my experience was the opposite - S2 died quickly, S3 was slow and with bloated software, Note 4 was and still is great. But anecdotes about one or two people's experience don't prove anything.
- dghughes 10y agoMeanwhile the Samsung Note burns.
- TheSpiceIsLife 10y agoIf you could point me to a smartphone that had an enormous amount of energy crammed in to the battery I'd be delighted. Would buy on of those today for sure.
- bogomipz 10y agoWhat's the potential for a class action suit here? Should they have issued an official recall in September when they started issuing replacements.
- ge96 10y agoWhy couldn't they have just replaced the batteries in the next batch?