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A lot of pasture land, for example in Amazonia has actually been created by systematic deforestation, also in Europe, which was deforested a couple of centuries ago. So a lot of that land could be used for reforesting. And if it would be so
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Depends on what you call decent. I mean for the cow it might have more space to walk around and eat grass. Still, it will have their child taken at birth, shot, plugged into a milk machine daily, etc. Farming if left to the natural economic
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7y ago
I think the truth is, most people don't care. They just go to the supermarket and throw in their shopping cart the cheapest option, and that's about it. Its too much work and unrealistic to think people will be that aware, read la
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7y ago
Of course, there are factory farms in Europe. Less than in the US, but on the rise and only getting worse https://www.greenpeace.org/eu-unit/issues/nature-food/1923/f... Especially for things like chicke
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I don't see them going away either, but I think that it's important that the public realizes that they are completely optional for good health. But there is this perception that they are absolutely essential due to decades of dair
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That still says nothing about the relative amounts. Are they comparable to the ones in cheese?
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7y ago
As far as I know, you don't need to stop consuming dairy it can happen gradually as you are consuming it too over the course of your life. It's not an all or nothing thing, there are several degrees to it. Some people will end up
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7y ago
Actually, most crops (80% of the world crops) are for feeding animals. Shooting the animals yourself is not a very practical solution, or scalable. Sure you could do it for yourself and your family at great expense of your time and even som
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I'm from Europe, the culture is I bet a bit different but the laws of economics still apply. If a farmer can produce the same product in larger volumes and cheaper, it will have an advantage over the competition and start taking a bigg
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I think you are right, unless factory farms are simply forbidden they will continue to exist for the sheer force of economics.
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But do most people actually even know what the numbers on those eggs even mean? http://www.krakowpost.com/9096/2015/04/healthy-living-what-d... It seems like it's just not very effective, most people are
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There just aren't enough pastures to raise enough cows that way to meet demand. Otherwise, it would have been done already, its much cheaper to let cows roam around eating free food, instead of having to pay for it. The reason why fact
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7y ago
it's possible to bake some very tasty cakes without milk, but it involves trying new recipes and techniques.
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Just checked. Apparently, one 5th of the EU budget goes to support livestock - https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/feb/12/nearly-a... A lot of it under the form of crop subsidies: > This land
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Here is a source: https://www.globalagriculture.org/report-topics/meat-and-ani... > Livestock is the world's largest user of land resources, with pasture and arable land dedicated to the production of feed repr
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There is this illusion in european countries that factory farming is a thing of the US, when in fact for example in Ireland factory farming it exists too - https://beyondthepaleireland.com/2017/07/28/factory-f
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When I saw your post I thought it would a Mom and Pa farm down the road with 5 cows, but this actually looks like a small (to medium?) size factory farm to me, well marketed. Those huge structures are I imagine grain silos to store feed - h
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> irresponsible production of plant based food (soil erosion, destruction of entire ecosystems and replacing them with plant fields In most cases, this is actually done to create feed crops like soy and corn. Most of the agricultural fi
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7y ago
Yes, you're right its fat and protein, I meant to say that it looks like melting fat.
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7y ago
And what about relative amounts? I would expect it to be more concentrated in cow's milk than in plants. It's usually the dosis that makes the poison so it would be interesting to know the amounts and its effects in humans. I have
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> I regularly order locally-produced milk from very small scale farmers Not a specialist here, but I think I'm generally well informed and just trying to use some common sense. You probably pay a bit more for that milk than at the s
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I don't think you need fortified milk either, but if you are worried about it you can take it, that's what I meant. There is no indication of lack of calcium in vegetarians or vegans, many studies have shown it. Most likely, its y
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> There exists whole industry of keeping cows and producing diary in humane way. These are usually market gimmicks. They say a cow is pastured raised if they leave it out an hour a day, grass-fed if it gets fed half the diet in grass the
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There is this common internet illusion that these things only happen in the US. It's a myth, of course, it absolutely happens in Europe too and everywhere in the western world. How could it not, its economics and its a business. The go
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Still the majority of the world population is lactose intolerant and should not be consuming dairy at all. The ones that can digest it, do it usually less well than they think they do. Mild chronic diarrhea is prevalent is western countries
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The point was that drinking milk is something humans have only very recently in our evolutionary history have adapted to doing, so we are still adapting and a lot of us can't do it very well at all. At least, a lot of us do it a lot wo
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You don't have to that at all, of course. First of all, nobody really knows how much calcium you really need per day, all those estimates are ballpark estimates at best. The estimates of 1000mg or more have been pushed for decades by t
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Dairy actually has hormones called caso-morphines that bind to the same brain receptors as I believe heroine (of course not as potent). So it's addictive in nature, this addition is probably meant to keep the calf close to the mother a
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One thing implies the other, as it's impossible to produce enough dairy for so many people using the methods you mention, that is why most dairy people consume comes from factory farms in the first place. Dairy price would sky-rocket a
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The point was that its actually a very unnatural thing to be doing, and that we only evolved very recently to be able to even do it. Also, there is a whole spectrum to it. You don't have to be 100% medically diagnosed as lactose intole
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