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vasilipupkin
3y ago
your point that you raised seems irrelevant to the specific question at hand. "Regarding the "governing" status of Hamas, I would observe that the overwhelming majority of Gazans are too young to have ever voted, and that Ham
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3y ago
I don't agree that this has anything to do with values really. Hamas is the de facto governing authority of Gaza, or was as of October 7th It could have chosen to build water infrastructure, desalination plants, etc. Instead it chose t
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3y ago
No, it can't equally be applied to Israel, just because South Africa does something, it doesn't follow that it's logical or correct. It can't equally be applied to Israel because Hamas attacked on October 7th and subsequ
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vasilipupkin
3y ago
"For all practical purposes, Israel occupies Gaza; it is required to keep Gazan civilians supplied, If Israel wanted Gaza to be self-sufficient, it could allow them to build an airport, to receive ships on its shorefront, and to manage
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3y ago
technically, this is not accurate https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/96544/what-services-... You are not supposed to destroy existing water resources of the population of the entity you are at war with, but y
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3y ago
"The current Hamas charter only calls for the destruction of Zionist Israel, not for Israel as a nation" This is gaslighting. There is no doubt that Hamas wants to kill all Israelis because we not only have the text of the charte
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3y ago
yes, but why did Israel and Egypt put restrictions on Gaza after Israel left Gaza in 2005? Why did this happen? Surely, the reasons are extremely relevant for any conversation on this topic.
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3y ago
Just because an entity has agency, it doesn't that in every situation it has unlimited choices. You have to acknowledge the reality that Hamas has vowed to keep repeating October 7th again and again. Given this reality, what choice doe
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3y ago
You are missing the point. First of all, cutting off water to enemy forces is not a war crime https://www.quora.com/Is-cutting-off-water-to-an-enemy-city-... . Secondly, Hamas is a genocidal terrorist organization that Israe
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3y ago
ANC, FLN, French resistance are all irrelevant examples because once again, as I explained, Hamas is an organization dedicated to destruction of Israel Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005. That is an undeniable fact. Subsequently, Hamas took
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3y ago
British Army and the IRA is not a relevant example. At no point did IRA want to destroy all of Britain and kill all British people. IRA phoned in bomb threats. It's a totally different situation. Hamas has 30 thousand fighters and it
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3y ago
you've actually made several points, perhaps without realizing it One point you made is that Israeli actions are apriori atrocities, not acts of legitimate warfare The second point you made, perhaps without fully understanding it, is t
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3y ago
It's an absurd claim because Israel completely pulled out of Gaza in 2005 but was subsequently forced to take measures to defend itself when Hamas started firing rockets at Israel. Egypt is also blockading Gaza, why do you think that i
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3y ago
"atrocities" is a loaded term. There is a war going on, war is brutal and in war civilians suffer and die, which is horrible and regrettable. But you can't look at this situation and treat it as if out of thin air, for no r
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3y ago
there is Hamas in the West Bank. That statement is simply false, Hamas and Islamic Jihad have a strong presence in the West Bank. https://acleddata.com/2023/12/14/the-resurgence-of-armed-gro... It's tru
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3y ago
there is no doubt that the situation in Gaza is tragic, no argument there But you have to engage with a simplest of facts: two sides are fighting a war in Gaza, right now, two armies. You can't put all the blame on suffering of civil
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3y ago
I beg you people to engage with actual facts. You can't deny that there is combat going on there, what are we actually arguing about. Is Israel obliged to provide water to an enemy entity? In what world does a country attacked by an e
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3y ago
>I don't know how this point makes any logical sense to you, unless you're arguing in bad faith. Of course it makes sense. How can you argue that Israel is not going after Hamas if Israeli solders on the ground are battling Ha
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3y ago
Again wit this nonsense ? You are not engaging with the facts. The fact is of course Israel is going after Hamas, they are literally losing soldiers daily in battles witn Hamas, it’s absurd to deny this People have a right to fight against
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3y ago
this is false, first of all when there was a fight against ISIS, of course there were civilian casualties. Secondly, Israel has unique security challenges that most nations on Earth do not face. Which nation has a terrorist army on its bo
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They left Gaza in 2005 voluntarily and dismantled Gaza settlements Yes, Israel being a democracy and allowing a variety of views including in the government, has various people saying various things there is no doubt they are trying to dest
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3y ago
you can't put an equal sign on the two. Hamas committed horrible acts for genocidal reasons and subsequently vowed to do it again and again, multiple times in speeches of multiple Hamas leaders Israel is trying to destroy Hamas to rem
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3y ago
But all this is circular logic. You can’t say something is valuable because it’s digital. Why is it wealth in the first place is the question. Wealth is something that represents concrete value.
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3y ago
What does that mean ? Most wealth is in the cloud, you don’t need Bitcoin for this. I don’t have any paper stock certificates.
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Author decided to ignore the fact that Israel and Hamas are fighting a war and so isn’t grappling with what is actually happening in Gaza. Instead making it seem as if Israel woke up one morning and decided to bomb a bunch of people for no
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3y ago
is this criticism reasonable though? Look at Waymo, for example. Investing in that is very visionary. I mean, someone has to work on the stuff that pays the current bills, right? Or, what about Bard? Sure, Bard kinda sucks compared to
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3y ago
it’s completely irrelevant language because nobody is anywhere close to actual AGI
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3y ago
agree, I am not sure how useful this is. Do humans generalize outside of their training data? Would you hire a divorce lawyer to work on an M&A transaction? nobody would do that. Would you hire a local butcher to do open heart surger
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3y ago
I was alive before Uber, AMZN existed and nobody starved, people just worked elsewhere, so this assertion is just not true. People have to work, but they don't have to work for AMZN, they didn't before it existed. Sure, quitting i
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3y ago
yeah, I am saying these reasons don't seem to make sense, since AMZN is not a monopoly because other online sellers exist and physical stores exist
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