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Cannabis users face substantially higher risk of heart attack (2025)

• RickJWagner 3mo ago
  It’s starting to look like THC ( found in gummies, too ) causes vascular problems.
  • PaulHoule 3mo ago
    Before we got Ozempic there was great hope for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rimonabant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rimonabant which blocks the receptor that THC binds to and led to weight loss and further improvements of the “metabolic syndrome” beyond weight loss alone. Unfortunately it caused major depression in some people including suicide. So looking at it that way it would be no surprise that cannabis causes weight gain and metabolic syndrome and in fact my experience is that if I am using cannabis I get a few kg. I think that is the THC and on top of that if you are smoking you are inhaling small particles that turn your blood into sludge (e.g. your blood is a “complex fluid” with cells in it that can be damaged) and doing damage to your lungs and capillaries and promoting inflammation and all that.
  • ChrisMarshallNY 3mo ago
    You get the munchies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN1AQDxwrSg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN1AQDxwrSg
• embedding-shape 3mo ago
  > researchers were unable to account for several potential confounding factors including the duration and amount of cannabis use or the use of tobacco or other drugs. Personally I'd wager a bet it's the tobacco and/or smoking that is the harmful part, but it kind of dumbfounds me they failed to account for "details" like "duration and amount of cannabis use", that feels like a very vital thing to control for. Nothing is good for you in too great amounts, even water, so not taking that into account seems to not really give reliable and trustworthy results.
  • xattt 3mo ago
    I tried to look up the source article, but there doesn’t seem to be any mention of consumption of edibles versus smoking.
  • honeycrispy 3mo ago
    Do you smoke?
    • embedding-shape 3mo ago
      Literally just wrote about that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48794178 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48794178 > I've smoked cannabis daily for maybe 15 years [...] Visited a cardiologist like two months ago and have perfectly fine heart despite the smoking.
      • Noaidi 3mo ago
        Many people have had cardiologists say they have perfectly fine hearts go on to have heart attacks months later. My brother was one of these people. He was going in for spinal surgery, cardio said his heart was fine. Two weeks after surgery he was short of breath. Turns out he needed a triple bypass. And that was a physical change. Heart attacks happen because of electrocardiac issues as well.
        • yehosef 3mo ago
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        • pipes 3mo ago
          Did you brother have a Coronary Artery Calcium score scan?
          • Noaidi 3mo ago
            No. This was about ten years ago. But not much has changed as I cannot get CAC score on Medicare even though they wanted to put me on statins. Cardiologist says I am fine. :/
• yieldcrv 3mo ago
  I’m annoyed by the bifurcated regulatory regime Substances approved by the FDA are done based on specific treatments, with multiple trials and approval per use case Substances declared scheduled are illegal by the substance itself, instead of per use case paradoxically because there is no FDA approved use case and almost no way to get one meaning that places in the US that diverge in legality and are ignored by the federal government have done so without any clinical trial, which would be some level of peer reviewed objective information by use case instead of the whole substance we can’t even get a simple list of side effects, or a disclaimer about what kind of users shouldn’t use it only anecdotes that annoys me and it’s not just about weed
  • dofm 3mo ago
    The US government is now in thrall to the Kratom industry though isn't it? No reason to expect any logical consistency from them. (Literally the person currently responsible for the branch of government that keeps illegal drugs out of the country is an investor in a Kratom company)
    • steveBK123 3mo ago
      Yes we are living in a kleptocracy / kakistocracy hybrid
  • slipperybeluga 3mo ago
    The most ridiculous thing about cannabis remaining schedule 1 (high risk of abuse, no known medical use) so long is that there is both prescription THC and CBD. It should have been changed|to a higher (less strict) schedule decades ago with the release of marinol in 1985. Then we could have had a lot more studies being done. Needless to say, not easy to do studies on schedule 1 drugs.
    • yieldcrv 3mo ago
      the two week hearing happening now mentioned marinol, with the DEA throwing its support behind that and rescheduling to schedule III, following the administration's policy aims (only mentioning because the head of DEA was anti-rescheduling before being appointed, spineless haha but I'm glad he's not in the way)
• gchamonlive 3mo ago
  Would be nice to know how much of a role a sedentary lifestyle plays in it or if it puts everyone at risk regardless of other habits. Maybe this just means you need to do cardio several times a week to keep using THC.
  • embedding-shape 3mo ago
    FWIW, I've smoked cannabis daily for maybe 15 years, I'm not exactly sedentary (have dogs, a partner and like to (lazily) swim in the sea) but generally don't exercise. Visited a cardiologist like two months ago and have perfectly fine heart despite the smoking. Anecdotal of course, many could probably bring up counter-stories too, but I do think you bring up a good point, it seems to me a completely sedentary lifestyle seems to be way more destructive to your health than moderate usage of various drugs and/or eating habits. People who just walk a bit daily already seem way healthier and happier than peers in their same age.
    • brcmthrowaway 3mo ago
      What tests?
• sandcat_ 3mo ago
  Not really related, but the other thing I found out recently that cannabis can cause is the worst panic attack I have ever experienced: a DPDR (derealization / depersonalization) panic attack. I’ve had regular panic attacks before. I get one a year, roughly, where I get essentially heart attack symptoms. But this was something else. It felt like something was truly, irrevocably broken with my mind and I couldn’t even describe what. Utterly terrifying. I was a heavy user but dropped it the next day.
  • joemazerino 3mo ago
    Can relate to this experience. How old were you?
  • reeredfdfdf 3mo ago
    I had a similar experience when I was young. Bought a vape and some Cannabis, which probably had really high THC concentration as it tends to have nowadays. Took a bit, didn't feel anything, then took a bit more, and boom, a panic attack. Might even had some hallucinations, I'm not fully sure what was real and what wasn't. After the experience I felt kind of weird and "slow" for several days. Later I found out that there is also a genetic risk of schizophrenia in my family. No way I'm going to touch anything with THC ever again. I've tried CBD oil though and that was okay, slightly calming effect. But ultimately I prefer beer over that too.
  • ifwinterco 3mo ago
    Anecdotally this isn't uncommon among heavy users, I've heard of similar things happen to a few people. You did the right thing stopping, where people really go off the deep end is when they don't listen to the warning signs and keep blazing. I think weed should be legal and for the majority of people used in moderation it's going to be fine, but at the end of the day it's a psychoactive drug. It's probably not optimal to use it daily and in particular waking and baking every day is asking for trouble. Also a case to be made that modern strains are worse. I fully believe that the risk of losing the plot is higher when you're smoking some lemon sherbet bubblegum flavours every day instead of old fashioned moroccan hash
  • Noaidi 3mo ago
• dvduval 3mo ago
  For me, cannabis causes anxiety, and it’s pretty well established that anybody with anxiety or bipolar or schizophrenia should not be using cannabis because it can make these much worse. I don’t suffer anxiety anymore, but there’s plenty of scientific evidence about the relationship between anxiety and cannabis use.
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  • dbspin 3mo ago
    That's a very blanket statement, lots of people are in fact prescribed low dose cannabis for anxiety.
  • bushwart 3mo ago
    What strains have you tried?
  • DANmode 3mo ago
    Excessive THC exposure, not blanket cannabis use, is what’s really being condemned here. Hemp, meaning very low THC, higher terpene (read as: “essential oils“ and CBD content, is for you (and most!).
  • bottlepalm 3mo ago
    I’ve seen it happen over and over again, regular smokers stop smoking because weed only gives them anxiety now. It’s literally a gateway drug to an anxiety disorder.
    • 47282847 3mo ago
      I think it works for a while to cover up an anxiety disorder. Which is typically a result of adverse childhood experiences (like emotional neglect), until processed.
    • uwagar 3mo ago
      it doesnt give anxiety. they are already very anxious people. i find if you persist with it, the anxiety goes away and then you feel cannabis cured me!
• IAmGraydon 3mo ago
  Literally no mention of ROA. It matters whether they smoke plant matter, vape, use it orally, etc. This, combined with their inability to account for a number of other factors such as tobacco use, makes this study literally useless. Earned a flag from me.
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  • mil22 3mo ago
    Agree on ROA, but the retrospective cohort study (one of two discussed in this article) did account for many other factors including tobacco use.
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• ear7h 3mo ago
  Some commenters here talking about anxiety, but I think the bigger cause, which many people don't know, is that THC significantly increases your heart rate despite it's usual characterization as a depressant. If I recall correctly (big "if" considering the circumstances hah) my heart rate after smoking would go up by 10-20 BPM (from 65-70 to 80-90) while still feeling relaxed; ~~finding some numbers on this from a reputable source is difficult right now and this symptom is suspiciously missing from the wikipedia page~~. Edit: Realized this comment sounds like fear mongering, so decided to dig up some actual sources. The wiki page I needed to find was: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_cannabis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_cannabis Also, the CDC page mentions it: https://www.cdc.gov/cannabis/health-effects/heart-health.html https://www.cdc.gov/cannabis/health-effects/heart-health.htm... And links to this paper (though I can't read past the abstract bc no institutional access): https://doi.org/10.1002/j.1552-4604.2002.tb06005.x https://doi.org/10.1002/j.1552-4604.2002.tb06005.x
  • goodroot 3mo ago
    There's more going on here than just the substance's effect. There's a mind body connection that an altered state can throw into disarray. Under the influence of cannabis, one may be a lot more aware of physical pain, dehydration, and so on. The key word is aware. Suddenly becoming aware of the fact that you are stressed out, you are carrying tension, can lead to something of a latent processing effect of some of these suppressed or physically felt emotions. However, if you're generally not tense, ingesting cannabis itself does not always raise the heart rate. I can validate this myself right now, given I wear an Apple Watch and can vaporize cannabis. Looking at my historical data, there is no relationship, and my resting heart rate remains in the 40s. It's anecdotal, but at the same time we need to be careful with something that acts on the physical, the mental, and dare I say it, the spiritual. If we focus too much on one dimension, we lose the important synergy from processing all dimensions.
    • sscaryterry 3mo ago
      This. Street weed and medical cannabis are not the same thing.
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• ck2 3mo ago
  people just want their recreational drugs it's as stupid as smoking/vaping and not even black box warnings will get people to stop now if you need pain management I can respect that 100% but you need to investigate Palmitoylethanolamide and Geraniol as alternatives * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48700498 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48700498
  • block_dagger 3mo ago
    Can you respect folks who are treating mental/emotional pain or just physical?
    • ck2 3mo ago
      sure but you aren't going to help mental/emotional problems by getting stoned there are far better, legal supplements to treat that anyway, less expensive too dope activates AMPK in the brain/CNS and turns off AMPK in the body/heart it's an incredibly stupid thing to do to yourself (also why people get "the munchies") literally why it's called dope (before dope meant "cool")
      • galleywest200 3mo ago
        > less expensive too Marijuana is dirt cheap compared to any prescription medication, at least in the US.
        • switchbak 3mo ago
          They did say “legal supplements”, not prescriptions. But I’m not sure what they’re actually suggesting.
      • sscaryterry 3mo ago
        With enough tolerance, you don't get stoned anymore. This is where you want to be, side-effects gone, just the good stuff left.
    • gedy 3mo ago
• teekert 3mo ago
  I wonder about all the confounding effects. In my country (famous for cannabis to be easy to come by (for decades already), and I saw many smoke from age 16 up as I grew up in 90's, 00's). I have always felt that the heavy cannabis smokers had something to compensate; stress, unrest, impending depression, friction with parents. It was never the healthy sporty types with fulfilling relationships, good grades or a nice career that smoke cannabis heavily (like daily). Sure, some of those smoked, but more occasionally.
  • KellyCriterion 3mo ago
    > stress, unrest, impending depression, friction with parents Well, Id guess these are reasons for any case of substance missuse?
    • hx8 3mo ago
      Wouldn't they also be potential causes that lead to worse heath outcomes that were not measured in the study?
    • detourdog 3mo ago
      I believe it’s an “artificial” reward mechanism for some people. The ability to control one’s own rewards is an easy habit to take up. If the rewards aren’t coming from externalities one needs to get them from somewhere.
      • derektank 3mo ago
        If I had to guess, this is also the appeal of many video games.
        • galangalalgol 3mo ago
          Absolutely. I have abused games this way, and the only way I can play them responsibly is physically present multiplayer.
• khalic 3mo ago
  Without a clear mechanism of action, this sure requires monitoring (like any drug), but the conclusions are terribly oversold. Correlation does not imply causation, no matter the sample size
• kovacs_x 3mo ago
  6x sounds too clickbaity. but sure, still lets make to account by other "legal" substances (alco, tobacco, cocaine, pharmaceutics and other "lifestyle choices" infecting cardiovascular system) and way they are consumed(smoked, ingested, pure or with say tobacco) would love see data for a group who consumes cannabis by ingestion and especially not via smoking! also- do they differ different thc/cbd grades used (high/low thc, "medical")? im regards "research demonstrates something does this.." for many years alcohol was considered "healthier" over non consumption, just becauses non-drinkers were together with those of abstinent ex-alcholics.. thus average score was lower than for those who drunk minimal amounts and were considered "healthier".
• Scroll_Swe 3mo ago
  Good. This crap has been to normalized, especially online.
• shevy-java 3mo ago
  What I find fascinating is how smokers rationalize their behaviour, e. g. "weed is harmless". When they compare it to fentanyl or heroine/cocaine, but compounds are never intrinsically harmless. But you can not get that message across most folks who are smoking weed. It's a somewhat similar issue, to some extent, when you look at sumo wrestlers. These have a significantly lower life expectancy on average than the rest of the society in Japan, but the sumo association does not acknowledge that. It's really strange how the human mind operates.
  • cj 3mo ago
    I mean let's face it, most of us reading this comment are medically obese and would probably live at least 2-3 years longer if we lost 20 pounds. So why don't we?
  • rglover 3mo ago
    Have you ever smoked/ingested cannabis before?
  • galleywest200 3mo ago
    “They say coke kills but they don’t know when” is a refrain I have heard.
  • dotcoma 3mo ago
    Or alcohol, or whatever others are doing. In Italy, where I live, people on the ‘left’ side of the political spectrum (let’s say ‘progressives’) tend to think it’s perfectly ok to smoke dope, irregardless of what any scientific study may or may not say. This seems very weird to me.
  • goodroot 3mo ago
    There's a saying: don't throw stones if you live in a glass house. The same human mind that rationalizes the intake of substances is the same one that rationalizes social networks, junk food, eating meat, whatever it is. I wouldn't be so quick to condescend. At some point in time, it's important to realize that not everyone optimizes for longevity, correctness, rationalism, and so on, and they just simply do what makes them feel good within the limited life that they have. Nothing is intrinsically harmless. Cannabis can be devastating. But I was just sitting here doing work one day, got a hemorrhage in my eye, and lost half the sight in it. Otherwise, I'm supremely healthy. The cause: a gene.
• fuzzfactor 3mo ago
  From what I've seen it's faced with a more stony resolve compared to side-effects of many USP substances.
• cynicalsecurity 3mo ago
  Just a few years ago cannabis was presented online as a miracle drug that could cure all physical and psychological diseases. Any criticism of the sacred cannabis was strictly forbidden and dissenters were burned alive in the figurative fire of social media. Interesting how times are changing.
  • cj 3mo ago
    See also: Bitcoin, Tesla/Musk, Apple
  • goodroot 3mo ago
    I'm not so sure. There's always been a pragmatic center on cannabis, especially if you're somewhere where it's legalized. In Canada, we have legal cannabis. https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/drugs-medication/cannabis/health-effects.html https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/drugs-medica... When it was legalized, there was a documentation push and clear presentation of the downsides. In fact, as above, the language is mostly presented in the negative. This matches the general sentiment of the broad population. And let's not conflate things. The article is discussing smoked cannabis. This does not invalidate the essential substance and benefit of the experience. If we remove the ingestion method from the basket of effects, it's a different discussion. Not all positive, yet smoking is clearly not good for you. Full stop, no matter what it is.
  • amanaplanacanal 3mo ago
    That was likely a reaction to the DARE/reefer madness propaganda many of us grew up with, which was obvious bullshit.
• beezle 3mo ago
  for the anxiety crowd: don't buy street weed and avoid sativas about the 'study': I do not trust anything that comes out of meta studies given how many base studies are found to be either garbage or very lacking in controls. And without knowing an accurate life history it is hard to rule out or quantify damages done much earlier in life.
  • basisword 3mo ago
    >> for the anxiety crowd: don't buy street weed and avoid sativas I don't think blanket advice like this is helpful. For me indicas increase my anxiety significantly while sativas do the opposite.
    • lilbigdoot 3mo ago
      Agreed. Blending in CBD and other cannabinoids is way more effective than relying on strains. Basically everything out there is extremely high in THC and nothing else. Mixing in high CBD flower reduces anxiety a lot for me
    • beezle 3mo ago
      For clean weed - not laced with anything - sativas are more prone to causing anxiety. I doubt one will find any kind of study proving this, it is anecdotal - myself, friends and the internet at large. While not universally true, it seems that many of the sativas for sale are very high THC which probably is a primary factor. Other factors are terpenes, though there is still a lot of debate on whether it these are real or imagined effects. Moderate THC (15-20%) indica or indica dominant hybrid flower, using a flower vape, IMHO, is the best way to go. Always a good idea to read strain reviews prior to purchase (or growing) as people will note those that have caused them to be anxious, sleepy, hungry, horny, etc. People can also have very different reactions when taking a drug (weed, shrooms, lsd, etc) alone vs with friends, something to consider as well.
      • LastTrain 3mo ago
        You talk like dispensary employees who are, in general, dishing out recommendations based on folklore and personal experiences. The only true advice is YMMV - there are no controlled studies on what different “stains” do, or even a formal definition of what a strain is for they matter.
• warumdarum 3mo ago
  He who attacks the munchies..
• SoftTalker 3mo ago
  Is there something that can help a habitual cannabis user stop? GLP1s maybe?
  • acc_297 3mo ago
    It's not addictive along the same pathways (as far as I'm aware) from what I observe in my own life you either smoke casually and could stop whenever you want to (I used to then I stopped no problem) or you are dealing with psychological stress factors that are best treated with the help of a mental health professional.
  • handfuloflight 3mo ago
    Controlled tapering.
  • NorthSouthNorth 3mo ago
    You can cold-turkey it. Know daily smokers who (temporarily) quit for multiple reasons, e.g. medical reasons, job, extended travelling. From what I have seen, there are no side effects at all. They go back to smoking when the opportunity arises, but that's another story.
    • DANmode 3mo ago
      > From what I have seen, there are no side effects at all. You haven’t seen enough.
      • SoftTalker 3mo ago
        Yeah I know someone who is having real trouble stopping, he can cold-turkey for a few days but always starts up again. I think he has poor impulse control, which maybe GLP-1s could help, as some studies seem to indicate they help with cravings/impulsive behavior generally. I don't know if any MD would prescribe it for that, he's not obese so could not get it on that basis.
        • DANmode 3mo ago
• bsenftner 3mo ago
  Come on people, it is a drug. Exercise, cardio, eat well, sleep well, it's your choice the risks you take, but try to balance the good with the bad, if you partake in "bad".
• acc_297 3mo ago
  The study controlled for general health but I would note that the odds-ratio reported for cannabis use (4-6) is not so different from the odds-ratio associated when studying high vs. low income cohorts (3-5). This study is not a random blinded clinical trial it's reporting a trend present in ~5 million electronic health records which I assume record yes/no to patients ever telling a doctor they have used cannabis. I would assume that cannabis use correlates with a few other important heart health variables and we would expect the odds ratio to be lower when accounting for those (alcohol doesn't have an OR more than 1.0, tobacco smoking ~1.5) I'm sure that cannabis use is bad for cardio health but the reported odds ratio is very high. I personally do not use cannabis.
• stego-tech 3mo ago
  I mean, it's good that we have data showing some sort of connection between heart attacks and cannabis, but I appreciate the callout toward the end more: > Since both studies were limited by their retrospective nature and the meta-analysis was limited by the challenges inherent in pooling data from multiple studies, researchers said that additional prospective studies would help to confirm the findings and determine which groups may face the highest risk. Here's the thing that both the alarmists and the naysayers keep ignoring: all this data is new, it's recent, and decades of effective global prohibition have meant the only sources of reliable data came from either post-war/pre-prohibition studies (often by Defense Departments) or from "anecdata" gathered retrospectively among large cohorts. We still lack a substantial amount of direct, quality, long-term data on drug use and Nth-order impacts on the body, and these studies are the first steps towards getting more data from higher quality research to draw better conclusions from. If anything, I try to be quite open with my Doctors about my own use precisely because I know that data is thin and dated, and any contributions from patients in an honest manner is going to help draw better conclusions for healthcare guidance tomorrow. Letting alarmists use these thin precursors as justification for a return to total prohibition is the wrong move.
  • ascotan 3mo ago
    correct. the push for dispensaries has been financial not medical. now that we are getting large scale trials there will be more real evidence to show the public health effects. my guess: it will go the way of smoking eventually. realization around public health effects -> cost of those effects on public services -> taxes and costs go up. I'm curious as to why heart attack and not stroke. seems like bp isn't the only thing at play.
• ranprieur 3mo ago
  A supplement called genistein mitigates the risk: https://www.med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2022/04/marijuana-heart-disease.html https://www.med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2022/04/marijuana...
• laybak 3mo ago
  quite a few people I know consume edibles as the main form of cannabis. but it seems underrepresented in all the studies I've seen so far. as several others have pointed out, you would think the act of smoking would itself have nontrivial effects on health
  • zug_zug 3mo ago
    I wonder if they're doing these studies, finding no significant effect, and just dropping them.
  • beezle 3mo ago
    One can also use vapes. I avoid the cartridge types as I don't want to guess what was used to process them. Instead I use a simple flower vape which on the face of it should be less bad than say smoking from a joint or bong. Gummies and other edibles though require processing in the liver before they become active in the body (they are converted to a slightly different form of THC) so you would need to consider whether there are any negative effects on liver health from edibles and then compare to the various 'inhaled' methods. General friendly advice - for anything not flower, try to get things that are made by live rosin (not resin) as they are the cleanest and should not involve the use of any hydrocarbon solvents for extraction. Live resin would be next, though it does use hydrocarbons. Distilliates which are often in vape cartridges are almost always made with hydrocarbons. While the production method shouldn't matter if everything is done 100% properly, it does require trust that all the butane, etc has been fully removed from the final product.
    • padjo 3mo ago
      I really don't understand why anyone who has the means to buy a decent dry herb vape smokes it. I have a friend who's a daily smoker who just refuses to make the change. Has an absolutely terrible cough and yet he persists with smoking.
  • dubeye 3mo ago
    i researched and experimented with edibles after beign diagnosed with CVD. i don't beleive edibles are any safer
• reilly3000 3mo ago
  The data is from EMR records. The researchers stated themselves ~ “people should be more forthcoming with their doctors.” I don’t think anything meaningful can be concluded other than most people don’t like having the fact that they have done cocaine on their medical records.
• jkuli 3mo ago
  It's rare to see a study where "no link was found"
• jkuli 3mo ago
  Is this really the largest factor they found in all our medical data?
• yasaheblasa 3mo ago
  I was under the impression that breathing in burnt particulate of any sort was associated with serious cardiovascular risk? I would think a significant portion of cannabis users ingest smoke very frequently or at least second hand smoke more frequently than people who do not engage at all with a subculture that is largely smoke oriented.
  • LastTrain 3mo ago
    No there is something special about cannabis smoke that makes it perfectly fine to inhale daily /s
• Mwntalhwalth 3mo ago
  Quit recently after daily use for about 30 years. Took 3 years, and several regiments of hyperbaric therapy, I also took the time to cut out all other stimulants or depressents, alcohol, coffee etc. Now I stimulate the Vegas nerve in the morning and at night with breathing regiments Its hard to quit as there is a lot it does for you neurologically like caffeine does but I finally realized it was giving me neuroinflammation and wrecking my sleep quality so I stopped. Likely other long term health problems but those are harder to see/feel. Now my body does biphasic sleep and I journal at night and read books. Never liked to do either. Get crazy amounts of energy now and people constantly comment on the difference in me. Goodluck, you can in fact regulate this shit out of your daily habits if you find a way to do a cellular reset. Its not easy. I quit smoking cigarettes and checked drinking way way easier than cannabis
  • stringfood 3mo ago
    cannabis is harder to quit because it doesn't have that "it's killing you" aspect to it - but staying in bed and playing video games can kill in a different way! Still better than drinking heavily though
    • Mwntalhwalth 3mo ago
      I had no idea how to deal with the anxiety I had in the 90s and gollee it had to have been better than the drugs they've have tried to put me on to deal with that I blame the Ritalin to adderall to wellbutrin train of drugs for most of that but certainly cannabis served a purpose for me and likely kept me "healthier" in ways but its also not a good long term play I feel "high" now just being sober it's pretty nice
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• bottlepalm 3mo ago
  Weed used to be a thing where you’re lucky to get a hit passed to you - now you can have as many joints/edibles as you want and people are drugging themselves into psychosis, panic attacks and anxiety disorders.
• dontfeedthemac 3mo ago
  Like with everything it’s about moderation; But if we are sold cannabis as a “healthy” alternative to cigarettes obviously something will go wrong. At the end of the day, just like with any other drug, it’s about frequency (times / week), time of use (environmental factor), genetic compatibility (strain genetic and your genetics), and most importantly: how do you feel with your self after. Let’s keep it real most stoners smoke till they can’t feel a thing, and their fingers tremble. No shame, I used to do that, yes, for health reasons, I am an ex-medical user. Over time I understood it’s not for me, and I try to live life with sobriety, while I find my highs and my escapes with other stuff. Books, TV shows, wasting time outside at coffee shops. The biggest kicker no body wants to take seriously is corn content if we are keeping it honest.
• SV_BubbleTime 3mo ago
  I love these articles. When the hundred heavy pot users all come at once with their impartial critiques and studious analyses. What I like more is some of the people that will agree with me would crucify if the topic was about ADHD meds.
  • jmye 3mo ago
    I’ve started trying to guess how many top-level comments will be from people who don’t know anything about the study but have read a lot of erowid or whatever, acting like study experts and thinking “correlation is not causation” is an impressive thing to say. It’s like guessing jelly beans in a jar. All noise, zero signal, anytime pot (especially) or other drugs are mentioned.
• altairprime 3mo ago
  Gave myself temporary afib with pot, wore an Apple Watch for five years to confirm a hard stop resolved the afib (it eventually did after a few months with no changes in dietary/activity and I continued monitoring for five years), sold the Apple Watch. Turns out my adhd’s addiction resistance has the unfortunate downside of being able to OD on pot without noticing it. Glad to see science caught up. No confounding factors like nicotine et al, no recurrence since.
• tsoukase 3mo ago
  For such widespread factors any correlation not based on randomised controlled trials should be dismissed. There is so much confounding that you end up measuring smoking vs heart disease. I will not be surprised by the result, cannabis usage increases lung cancer risk.
• dmackerman 3mo ago
  What a vague article. So I take some 10mg gummies every once in a while. Are my chances higher?
• pvsk10 3mo ago
  Don't smoke anything kids, it is not good
• spl757 3mo ago
  Willie Nelson.
• il-b 3mo ago
  "We should have some caution in interpreting the findings in that cannabis consumption is usually associated with other substances such as cocaine or other illicit drugs that are not accounted for,"