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Rent collections are down in New York
- alexjplant 5mo ago> “There is a subset of people, maybe the smallest subset, who are literally making a choice not to pay rent, and we don’t do well with acknowledging that but there is a subset for whom that is the case,” [...] Others bristle at the notion that some tenants are not paying rent just because they may be able to get away with it. These people absolutely exist. To pretend that they don't is willful ignorance. They are, however, indeed a "small[est] subset" to quote the gentleman in the article. In the era of $4 McDoubles and $6 gallons of gas I have trouble believing that one in four people is my burnout college roommate who spends on Fireball shots and Xbox games instead of paying rent. Life is expensive these days.
- naturalmovement 5mo agoThere's entire Reddit communities of these people where they encourage and validate their shitty behavior. With some of the stories I've read, you'd have to be positively insane to be a small-time landlord these days, especially in these large cities with kooky renter protections that make it nearly impossible to evict someone. Go watch Pacific Heights with Michael Keaton for a fictionalized account but this stuff absolutely happens every day. I saw one recently where the renter has not paid rent for six years and is unable to be evicted. It made national news. So where does that leave the industry? You eventually push out the mom and pop landlords by making the regulations so insane it only leaves behind the large corporate property management companies and their army of lawyers. Who will collude and drive rents up. It's a vicious cycle and these cities are not helping one bit.
- jen20 5mo agoIf you think the Reddit communities of tenants are bad, you should try reading the Reddit communities of landlords (at least the UK ones).
- mc3301 5mo agoYeah.... So many bad tenants. So many bad landlords... So many weird laws protecting and hurting both. What if we shifted to a different system?
- weakfish 5mo agoThe question that many do not want to think about. We (as a society (referring to all Western Liberalism, not just the US)) are so thoroughly convinced that Liberal Democracy is the End of History, and it's the 'flawed but best,' as many say, but refuse to imagine something better. It's puzzling that a system that is supposed to reward creativity and genius like capitalism limits it's inhabitants in their imagination when it comes to how one might structure society. I don't claim to have the answer, and _no,_ my issues with Liberal Democracy/Capitalism don't mean I'm a communist / socialist / thing-people-don't-like.
- nradov 5mo agoWhat would you like us to imagine? So far everything that we've tried at scale other than liberal democracy and capitalism has inevitably led to war, famine, and genocide. Western liberalism appears to be the only system that empirically works. Some would claim that "socialism with Chinese characteristics" works better, but if you look below the surface prosperity in first-tier cities the actual economic situation is rather grim and the human rights situation is horrific.
- margalabargala 5mo agoArguably, benevolent dictatorships tend to be the best. Singapore is a good example. The trouble is making a system that can guarantee the "benevolent" part in the longer term.
- mmooss 5mo agoMake an argument, beyond one city (if it's true there - Singapore might be better off, on some of the best real estate in the world, with free elections)? All the most free, wealthy, safe, creative, innovative societies in the world are democratic. And on what basis does some dictator get to tell others what to do? OK, I am the dictator and I'm telling you to give me 10% of your income and never post this nonsense in HN again. :)
- 8note 5mo agoThis is a bit of an intentional result, no? the goal is for peoppe to own the places they live in
- nradov 5mo agoWhy should that be a goal?
- fyredge 5mo agoTo discourage rent seeking behaviour?
- CursedSilicon 5mo agoBecause every human being needs shelter?
- nradov 5mo agoHaving shelter is not the same as owning real estate.
- rationalist 5mo agoI have friends and coworkers that want to have rental properties, and I advise them it's not worth it. I don't want to be in a position where I have to pay more to fix damages than I collectected in rent if I accidentally rent to deadbeats. Or in a position where I have to provide services to someone not paying me. One of those friends has parents that rented out their old house to deadbeats at the top of the housing market instead of selling it. Those deadbeats have been nothing but trouble and yet my friend still wants to be a landlord. Somehow the idea of owning rental properties became a pervasive notion in the U.S.
- _DeadFred_ 5mo agoWage theft is the number one form of theft in the USA at around $15 billion. Hopefully you advised your friends to avoid working for wages as that is the number one way to be ripped off by deadbeats in the USA. Somehow the idea of working for wages became a pervasive notion in the U.S. https://www.denver7.com/news/national-politics/the-race/wage-theft-is-the-costliest-crime-in-america#:~:text=Wage%20theft%20is%20the%20costliest%20crime%20in%20the%20country.,%2C%20and%20other%20larcenies%E2%80%94combined. https://www.denver7.com/news/national-politics/the-race/wage...
- cherry_tree 5mo agoLandlords typically have insurance coverage for damage by tenants, including lost rent.
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- itake 5mo agoIt’s hard for new landlords. People that bought houses to rent compete against property owners of paid off homes or people with 3% mortgages. Tacking on optional insurance products on a property that’s already in the red further encourages landlords to push up rents prices.
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- nradov 5mo agoTenant "protection" laws are the type of idiocy that economically illiterate progressive politicians always produce. They end up having the opposite effect by making property owners less willing to rent out to anyone. The only effective way to protect tenants is to set public policies that encourage new housing development. When there is a housing surplus, the laws of economics force landlords to treat tenants well. Build more housing!
- senectus1 5mo agosure because a property owner is going to not rent out a property and just take the month on month hit for having an empty property. They'll either rent it or sell it. There is a middle ground, just need to find that point.
- nradov 5mo agoApparently you haven't been paying attention to what's happening in the rental market. Landlords in cities with strong tenant protection laws will absolutely leave a unit vacant for months until they find someone with a high income ratio and credit score. This leaves poorer people stuck with no options.
- archagon 5mo agoVacancy tax. No one should have the right to buy multiple, rentable homes and keep them unused in the middle of a housing crisis. It’s sociopathic.
- mx7zysuj4xew 5mo agoSo in the Netherlands, For many years any property left vacant and unused dor more than a year could be legally squatted. it forced landlords to keep their properties on the market and insured full usage of the severely limited available housing stock
- mmooss 5mo agoDo you have evidence? There is evidence that RealPage software illegally coordinated (maybe coordinates) landlords in keeping units off the market in order to reduce demand and increase prices for everyone. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/24/technology/realpage-doj-settlement.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/24/technology/realpage-doj-s...
- ethbr1 5mo ago> especially in these large cities with kooky renter protections that make it nearly impossible to evict someone The problem is that there will always be more voting renters than voting landlords. So in a purely democratic system, policies which favor renters at the expense of landlords will always be supported. And that said, some renter protections are definitely needed, because there is a subset of landlords that engage in flat out illegal behavior. Deposit withholding, making illegal demands, illegal renter selection practices, etc. Imho, that tends to be concentrated in the "1-5 unit" landlord range, because those landlords are usually (a) not lawyers & (b) treat their properties like pets instead of a business.
- pixelatedindex 5mo ago> The problem is that there will always be more voting renters than voting landlords. So in a purely democratic system, policies which favor renters at the expense of landlords will always be supported. I don’t know about that… the voting landlords (NIMBYs) sure make it a point to reduce development “to preserve their neighborhood character”.
- kelnos 5mo agoYou're conflating landlords with property owners as a whole. There are a lot more people who own and live in their home than there are landlords. Homeowners are less likely to favor pro-landlord legislation than landlords themselves, and many may even strongly support pro-renter legislation (like myself, though I agree some of the pro-renter legislation certainly goes too far). The NIMBY "character of the neighborhood" phenomenon has nothing to do with landlords; that's a homeowner thing. Landlords might be anti-development because a constrained housing supply means higher rents, but that's something else entirely. And if NIMBY homeowners magically stopped being NIMBYs tomorrow, we wouldn't even bother talking about NIMBYs anymore, because NIMBY landlords wouldn't have enough political power to matter.
- pixelatedindex 5mo agoDoesn’t help that the landlords want to squeeze the renter for what they are worth. It’s weird to me that shitty landlords are normalized but shitty tenants get a (rightfully) bad rap. These laws become the way they are because landlords brought it upon themselves for the most part - they’re keeping assets that have massively increased in price and want to extract more and more out of the tenant. If you have a home that’s paid off your expenses are basically just property taxes, maybe they should do what they can to keep good tenants instead of chasing profits.
- bombcar 5mo agoRental prices stay surprisingly steady even when house prices go insane - compare similar apartments/houses in major expensive cities and cheaper ones.
- pixelatedindex 5mo agoSure but the rent will follow the increased purchase price. They also don’t go down, or at least they’re extremely sticky.
- bombcar 5mo agoThey're limited by what people will pay - and "techbro" cities have people with insane salaries willing to fork over big bucks. But there are similarly expensive areas that don't support the income necessary, and there often you find huge rental inversions.
- jjav 5mo ago> These laws become the way they are because landlords brought it upon themselves for the most part These laws seem quite unrelated to the problems. There needs to be laws to protect the renter against bad landlords and there needs to be laws to protect the landlord against bad tenants. Nowhere there it implies there should be insane laws that make no sense. Such as creating a system where someone can skip paying rent for many years and continue to live there. Landlords need laws that hold their feet to the fire to maintain the properties to a livable standard (the state/county should define) and fulfill any other obligations of the lease. At the same time there need to be laws that force the renters to pay on time and not destroy the property. It's not a case of one or the other.
- BrenBarn 5mo agoThe way to handle this, which no one seems to be willing to face, is to make laws that are not wealth-neutral. If you are a mom-and-pop landlord (with a relatively low net worth), your should have more leeway in dealing with tenants. If you are a large landlord, you should have very little. Couple this with ruinous penalties (e.g., full forfeiture) for attempting to hide the true beneficial ownership of the property.
- bombcar 5mo agoIn many locations, this exists in practice - especially if you rent parts of a building that you reside in (one half of a duplex or 1/4th of a quadplex, etc). In some cases, anti-discrimination laws don't even apply.
- morkalork 5mo agoIn my city, and I assume many others, there's an informal landlord's group that shares lists of problem tenants to avoid renting to. While problematic, I wonder if it's made any impact.
- seanmcdirmid 5mo agoUsually this is handled with credit reports right? It’s only when the state forbids landlords from demanding credit reports that informal networks are necessary. In general as a tenant you can only get away with not paying rent once (until eviction happens, no one will ever rent to you again without federal or state assurances), and as a landlord you will only skip the credit report requirement once (because your first tenant is going to be a deadbeat who screw’s you).
- nradov 5mo agoIn cities with excessive tenant protection laws, sometimes landlords will negotiate agreements with deadbeat tenants in which the tenant agrees to leave and the landlord doesn't report anything to the credit bureaus.
- polski-g 5mo agoCredit reports do not have a section for "plays music loudly" or "secretly smokes by the bathroom window".
- jandrewrogers 5mo agoI anecdotally know of a few cases in Seattle where tenants with high incomes that could easily pay just don't. There is a subculture that actively encourages this type of behavior and the laws are setup such that there are almost no consequences for it. I've also met people who bragged about doing it. While rare, it is still common enough that it has become a real problem and has become socially acceptable in some circles. It is corrosive to the social contract when government policy tacitly encourages this behavior.
- CursedSilicon 5mo agoAs someone who also lives in Seattle, I'd be curious to see any verifiable citations to such a wild claim
- abhinai 5mo agoHe said “anecdotally”. In any case, I was wondering that if I know a friend who does this, how could I ever present a verifiable citation for it? You may have to rethink your ask.
- CursedSilicon 5mo agoAnecdotes aren't usually admissible as evidence, is the thing
- itake 5mo agohttps://www.discovery.org/a/nightmare-tenant-in-bellevue-confronted-by-landlord/ https://www.discovery.org/a/nightmare-tenant-in-bellevue-con... I’m on phone but if you search “Kim Seattle landlord” you can get more details of various articles on the situation.
- abhinai 5mo agoThat is such a sad article.
- rdtsc 5mo ago> They are, however, indeed a "small[est] subset" to quote the gentleman in the article. The numbers don't have to stay small because this behavior is not generated independently in a population. Multiple people may become aware of it by talking to each other, social media, forums, some crazy news event that refers to it, etc. All of the sudden a lot more people decide they can do it as well and tell their friends. I am not defending it or saying one side is right or wrong just that when it comes to things like this there may be a different model at play on how this behavior is generated.
- dominicrose 5mo agoSomeone I know rented a flat in Draguignan to a "friend" of a "friend". After some time he stopped paying the rent and bought alcohol instead. It was a tiny rent but it lasted for a long time. She didn't have a mortgage on it but still I don't think I would be that patient as a landlord.
- djeastm 5mo agoIt sounds like an ad-hoc rent strike. Not a great sign for an economy.
- inigyou 5mo agoIf history teaches anything, it's that people are so afraid of striking they only ever do it when the alternative is death.
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- greekrich92 5mo agoPut the skull calipers down
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- 1shooner 5mo agoWhat in the world does conspicuous consumption by race have to do with TFA?
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- lovich 5mo agoI agree with the skull calipers comment, you came out of left field with the race shit and all benefit of the doubt for dog whistles left a few years ago
- vannevar 5mo agoThe question raised by the article isn't why people don't pay their rent; it is why the number of people not paying their rent has increased. Occam's Razor suggests that the most likely reason is also the simplest one: that prices have risen much faster than wages, making even fixed rents less affordable.
- delichon 5mo ago> We have to consider what the unintended consequences are of public policies or practices where there are no immediate consequences for someone who falls behind on rent > Many [landlords] say they don’t actually intend to evict anyone, but that filing these cases is the most expedient way to get emergency rental aid from the city. Economics in one easy lesson: incentives matter.
- vannevar 5mo agoWhile that is certainly true, it's a very narrow view disconnected from the reasons for the policies. The most likely explanation for more people not paying their rent is that even fixed rents have become increasingly unaffordable because other costs have risen faster than wages. So yes, people are "choosing" not to pay rent because the consequences of not paying the rent lag substantially behind the consequences of not eating or buying gas. But it's an absolutely rational decision. FTA: >...plenty of economic indicators suggest worsening financial duress for people already struggling. Costs are going up faster than wages, and inflation that took hold after the pandemic has proven painfully persistent.
- throwawayqqq11 5mo ago>plenty of economic indicators suggest > — and no one's sure why Now that i saw the framing, i am looking differently on the discussion here. The smalles troublemakers are more news worthy than broad economic factors behind us all, so you dumb down your headline...
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- nathan_compton 5mo ago"The uptick in rental delinquency isn’t new. It started six years ago, when the pandemic flung the city’s economy into chaos and plunged low-income New Yorkers into dire financial straits. But even as the city has rebounded, rent collection rates in affordable housing remain short of pre-pandemic levels. As costs balloon, landlords say insufficient rental income is threatening their ability to stay afloat." It started 6 years ago, before he was mayor.
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- _bohm 5mo agoI can guarantee you that the overwhelming majority of low-income people who are delinquent on their rent have no clue who Cea Weaver is. Nor is there any kind of organized rent strike occurring. Do you live in NYC?
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- hagbard_c 5mo agoWhat a strange remark, both the 'no way' as well as the ad-hominem related to the odd choice of a 'democratic socialist' as mayor for NYC. There was a time when people with differing political opinions could get along outside of the realm of politics but this has been made impossible by people who react like you just did here.
- gacgacgac 5mo agoPeople can't afford to live and food comes before paying your landlord? Economy is fucked right now. Income inequality pushes any gains into the hands of the wealthy. And frankly, more and more people are willing to stuff their landlord if they feel their landlord isn't holding up their end of the deal.
- toofy 5mo agoi occasionally come across some of the forums and online groups of landlords and the things they have to deal with, particularly in cities with strong protections for the tenants and its interesting to watch the perspectives. on one hand i feel for some of the landlords who have to deal with some of the very real slacks who go out of their way to be difficult tenants. on the other we’re talking about homes, by this i mean to stress home over investment. i think we’ve made a terrible mistake in incentivizing people to use homes as an investment. it should be difficult to evict someone from their home, and it should be risky and a pain in the ass to use someone else’s home as an investment. i feel bad for _some_ of the landlords but from a larger societal perspective we’re going to look back at incentivizing so many people to invest as a landlord as a massive mistake.
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- 1986 5mo agoThey're being evicted from their home, but from the landlord's property. It would be the landlord's home if the landlord lived there, but they don't, because they're renting it to the tenant.
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- dfxm12 5mo agoThe landlord can divest themselves of the property. It's also ok if people lose money on investments. I don't think you have to feel especially bad for landlords.
- halfxing 5mo ago> It's also ok if people lose money on investments. The more likely it is for landlords to lose money on the housing provided, the more rents will go up to account for that risk premium. It's no different than risk-return calculations for any other investments such as stocks.
- _DeadFred_ 5mo agoAll slack has been removed from society. All pricing has been maximized. Every interaction capitalized. Every point of extraction extracted from. People living in these situations now live from crisis to crisis. Not paying rent/dealing with the consequences is just another on the list. At some point people just become numb. Modern society at the peripherals is not sustainable. There will always be people in the peripherals, but society is now structured to require middle class type stability as the bottom baseline for an individual to survive.
- kbar13 5mo agoand the middle class is being destroyed
- inigyou 5mo agoHas been. You could've said that 10 years ago, but it's completely gone now. People you think are middle class are probably just upper lower class.
- FergusArgyll 5mo agohttps://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2025/11/one-third-of-us-families-earn-over-150000.html https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2025/11/on... And yes, it's inflation adjusted
- _DeadFred_ 4mo agohttps://fortune.com/2026/06/22/1-in-3-young-adults-living-with-parents-2025-more-than-pandemic-employed/ https://fortune.com/2026/06/22/1-in-3-young-adults-living-wi... I wonder how record numbers of adults living with parents impacts household income as now addition income earners.
- BoxFour 5mo ago> The uptick in rental delinquency isn’t new. It started six years ago It has nothing to do with Mamdani, for those of who don't want to bother to read. Most of this occurred under Eric Adams's watch. Anecdotally, I do think covid made people a lot more aware of how deeply backlogged the housing courts are. It seems like a lot of people (like the anonymous one in the article) realized they could not pay rent and avoid being actually evicted for quite some time. This is a recurring theme in city problems: Backlogged courts. Sometimes that's to the benefit of the less fortunate (here), but it also often results in terrible outcomes (see: Kalief Browder).
- eru 5mo agoI think even the benefit for the less fortunate here is at most a short-term one. In the longer one, you need building and renting out shelter to be reasonably profitable, so that people do it. It's basically the same argument that says rent caps are bad for the renters in the long run.
- tmnvix 5mo agoWe don't always have to consider the apparently very fragile and fickle motivations of investors. Social housing can and has worked very well in many cases.
- tommica 5mo agoWhere has it been successful, and what counts as success in that? I genuinely do not know.
- BobaFloutist 5mo agoIt's been exceptionally successful in Singapore, for one.
- dreijs 5mo agoI currently live in an HDB property in Singapore. It's great. I'm originally from the Netherlands, which traditionally had a strong social housing sector: regions and cities would have their own housing corporations ('woningbouwcorporaties') tasked with building affordable housing. Those corporations were given government support after 1950 to help with the post-WW2 housing shortage, but were semi-privatized in the mid-90s, and in 2015 their scope was strongly curtailed. It would be reductive to say that this privatization was the sole cause of the current housing crisis affecting the Netherlands -- rents and housing prices have also increased a lot in Singapore since Covid -- but it probably didn't help.
- anovikov 5mo agoWhy isn't it automated yet? You delay your rent and your door key stops working. Also perhaps there should be a new field for startups (yes i'm aware of 'proptech' but there has to be more than that), that will collect dirt on tenants to threaten them with legal consequences unless they pay.
- jquery 5mo ago> Why isn't it automated yet? You delay your rent and your door key stops working. Cyberpunk: Edgerunners has an excellent scene where something like this happens to a kid down on his luck.
- lyu07282 5mo agoand in cyberpunk 2077 there are neon signs above each apartment door indicating rent payment status, gotta bring public shaming into it too. This is the future our loyal soldiers for capitalism fight for on this platform in every thread lol.
- inigyou 5mo agoGotta use collective punishment to create collective enforcement. Make it so when a sign is red, police storm that block like in half-life 2. Then people who let their signs turn yellow will be ostracized until they fix it.
- inigyou 5mo agoGood idea. Also a robot drone should come and sell your stuff on eBay.
- eli_gottlieb 5mo ago> Why isn't it automated yet? You delay your rent and your door key stops working. 1) Because screw you, that's horrible and you shouldn't do it. 2) Because all these digital key systems are horrendously insecure and much more open to thieves and crackers than than a plain old door key anyway.
- epsteingpt 5mo agoFor those looking for the actual data. It's from 2024 - says nothing about the current situation. * ~37K affordable housing units (baseline) across ~400 projects * 89% rent collection rate (down from 90.6% in 2023) * That's 600 units that went 'delinquent' in 2024 - assuming a $24K 'base' rent (just a guess) that's $15M in lost rent. * Deeply troubled projects (that can't survive without this rent) are at 11% - seems like the inverse. * Cumulative arrears (unpaid rent) of $500M Here's the problem: * If no one had to pay, no one would. * We've tried free housing before - it suffered tragedy of the commons. Not paying means no ownership means subjugation to the worst actions of the worst members of society. * The projects fall into disrepair, there's no way to bring them back, because they won't be maintained. Landlords aren't a great solution to the problem to be sure. They can be greedy and heartless. The bigger problem is the bid up of asset prices - aka private equity and class warfare. As soon as you switch (from renting to owning) your incentives immediately shift. There doesn't actually seem to be a way around this. Taxing to spend on rent ironically makes the problem worse because you just transfer the money into the cash flows of the owners. Anyone thinking there's a simple solution to this problem hasn't spent enough time with the problem.
- throwaway27448 5mo agoI don't understand why we can't just copy another country's housing strategy. There are many countries in the world where housing is affordable, relatively high quality, and the homelessness rate is low. What are we doing that makes this problem so seemingly intractable? Why is our approach to public housing seemingly worse than any other approach in history?
- epsteingpt 5mo agoA bit of a misnomer. Housing is, actually, extremely affordable across the US - just not in major cities. You can plunk $10-$20K and get land and a homestead in dozens of states. Agree with the other comment that overbuilding is a reasonable strategy, but if you look at Detroit downtown (mid 2010s) having an overbuilt downtown is bad too. It's a hard problem.
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- RAGcontent 5mo agothe article said asset managers claimed rent collections went from 94% to 89% - wow such a drop! they fail to highlight that these assets are theirs to own indefinitely!
- the_doctah 5mo agoYour employer should pay you 5% less then they are legally obligated to. See how flippant you are then.
- zkmon 5mo agoSocial housing in the West is rewarding the bad habits of the people under the pretext that they need help. Every social housing place a like wound in the city and normal residents run away from those areas. People revolt when they hear of any plans to setu0 a social housing building in their locality. Why this happens? That's because, the housing problem give the opposition a weapon to use against the ruling party, constantly hitting out and winning the sympathy of people. The incumbent administration has no other choice except pouring money into social housing and show that they are doing something to address the issue. No one cares about the actual fall out of this philosophy. Just one of the evils of vote bank politics.
- outime 5mo agoThere's a limit to every city, and just building new infrastructure won't solve everything. It always lags behind demand and there are space constraints, budget constraints and countless other limitations. At the same time, expectations keep rising for everyone (myself included): not wanting to spend one or two hours commuting to work, not wanting to live 45 minutes away from a large supermarket and not wanting to spend three hours or more just to meet friends or family among others. The problem is that it simply doesn't scale, and every country/city faces different challenges so there is no single universal solution. I'm afraid the real discussion can't happen outside of small circles at this time because it'd involve highly controversial topics that much of the population in Western democracies (can only talk about what I know) isn't ready to confront. We have deeply ingrained ideas that are difficult to challenge so instead we'll probably watch cities fully collapse before anything.
- wffurr 5mo agoWhat makes you think our current cities are anywhere close to the limit you propose?
- nobodyandproud 5mo agoGiven the absence of other data, I’d say the lack of consequences is the driver. https://www.macrotrends.net/4694/new-york-city-area-unemployment-rate https://www.macrotrends.net/4694/new-york-city-area-unemploy... NYC even before covid was renter friendly and difficult to evict, so things must have taken quite the turn. Which sucks because—and the essay doesn’t specify—rent stabilized apartments remain one of the few ways for lower income to make it into the middle class. It’s not all pleasant (mice and cockroaches measured in inches) but it’s what allowed me to save, invest, and get out.
- snvzz 5mo agoWhen people can simply get away with not paying rent, what sort of sucker would pay rent?