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Mounting evidence that claude max users are put into one big compute fuel pool. Demand increased dramatically with OpenAI's DoD PR snafu (even though Anth was a
by mvkel 6mo ago
Mounting evidence that claude max users are put into one big compute fuel pool. Demand increased dramatically with OpenAI's DoD PR snafu (even though Anth was already working with the DoD? But I digress...). The pool hit a ceiling. Anth has no compute left to give. Hence people maxing out after 1 query. "Working on it" means finding a way to distill Claude Code that isn't enough of a quality degradation to be noticed[0], in order to get the compute pool operational again. The distillation will continue until uptime improves.
0 as of this writing, it's noticeable. Lots of "should I continue?" And "you should run this command if you want to see that information." Roadblocks that I hadn't seen in a year+
- ramon156 6mo agoDistillation is how they're planning to make money? What a poor strategy. This is next level FOMO (Fear Of Not Being The #1 LLM Provider). I have cancelled my subscription last week, I'll see them when they fix this nonesense
- garganzol 6mo agoMakes sense, even plan name seems to agree: "Claude Max".
- bradgessler 6mo agoReminds me of an “all you can eat” buffet I was at once where the owner told me, “that’s it, that’s all you can eat” and cut it off.
- 9991 6mo agoDid this prompt some reflection on your part?
- ceejayoz 6mo agoWhat, that businesses lie?
- mc32 6mo agoIt’s like most lifetime warranties. They’re not what they seem to mean colloquially. They have a contractual meaning.
- scottyah 6mo agoThey never said WHOSE lifetime...
- mc32 6mo agoI think with some it’s the lifetime of the product line. If it’s sunset, no longer sold; lifetime ends when support ends.
- skeeter2020 6mo agoOr my grocery store that has certain products with signs "Always $n" but over the past 5+ years n has increased regularly and dramatically.
- ceejayoz 6mo agoThat we accept the lying doesn't mean it's good.
- michaelbarton 6mo agoSounds like the most blatant case of false advertising since the movie The Neverending Story
- politelemon 6mo agoWhat is openai's involvement here, as I am out of the loop.
- masklinn 6mo agoI assume it's anthropic rejecting the US Government's use of their software for domestic mass surveillance or fully autonomous weapons, and openai happily agreeing to it. That has led to a significant number of people switching over from openai, or at least stating they were going to do so.
- ezfe 6mo agoClaude: Autonomous weapons and domestic surveillance are our red line Pentagon: No OpenAI: We are okay if the line is merely a suggestion and we encourage you not to cross it! Pentagon: Yes we pick that option
- Analemma_ 6mo agoThey made a $25 million donation to Trump, which was repaid in kind by designating Anthropic a supply chain risk. Unfortunately, they weren’t nearly subtle enough about this, and went “sure, we’ll take over the contract with no limits on killbots or domestic surveillance, no problem!” on the same day as Anthropic got in trouble, and people put two and two together.
- brenoRibeiro706 6mo agoI agree; I think that's what happened. But it's a shame—I'm having a lot of trouble with poor-quality results from Claude-Code, and the session limit is being used up quickly.
- jimkleiber 6mo agoI looked at my cc usage and I was at 90% of my weekly allowance after 3 days of use...BUT, if I looked at the usage stats with the chart, it showed, on a scale of 1-4 intensity of usage (4 being most intense), the three days as such: Day 1: 2 Day 2: 3 Day 3: 1 Not sure how I can hit such limits so quickly with such low scores on its own chart.
- skywhopper 6mo agoThe limits are smaller now, is how.
- jimkleiber 6mo agoThen why not update their chart to at least say that? The numbers (shading, actually) on the chart are not absolute numbers, they're relative, so just make it look as if I spent a lot of time on it. If they're gonna change their limits without being clear about it, at least go all the way. Right now, I can go, "See, you're actually saying I didn't use that much compared to the limits."
- cube00 6mo agoWhich is fine, but the way they're tightening the screws, and not saying until they announce the results of their A/B tests is very frustrating.
- guelo 6mo agoThe responsible thing would be to not sell way more subscriptions than their capacity. But they have to show the exponential revenue curves to their investors. I cancelled my subscription yesterday.
- vitosartori 6mo agoI was vacationing! What's up with OpenAI now? Asking with some morbid curiosity tbh.
- binarymax 6mo agoCodex switched to paid API tokens only. Not to mention their alignment with the department of war.
- winterqt 6mo ago> Codex switched to paid API tokens only. They’re still doing subscriptions: https://developers.openai.com/codex/pricing https://developers.openai.com/codex/pricing
- bachmeier 6mo agoI'm happy I invested in setting up Codex CLI and getting it to work with ollama. For the toughest jobs I can use Github Copilot (free as an academic) or Gemini CLI. If we see the per token price increase 5x or 10x as these companies move to focusing on revenue, local models will be the way to go, so long as stuff like Gemma 4 keeps getting released.
- andai 6mo agoCan you give context for the API thing? Edit: Looks like it still works with subs, they just measure usage per token instead of per message.
- margalabargala 6mo agoThat's not true. There was a headline saying they were, and the actual article showed they were doing nothingbof the sort. If you read HN headlines, and don't even bother to click into the comments and see everyone calling out the headline as bogus, you might think something like your statement is true.
- feature20260213 6mo agoNothing, Effective Altruist dweebs realizing that the world isn't their psychology experiment.
- 827a 6mo agoAlternatively, the elephant in the room I'm surprised no one wants to talk about: the vibe coding is catching up with them.
- muyuu 6mo agothat is a separate issue indeed, but their comms make it rather obvious they are scrambling to reduce compute and they're just slashing their service selectively - with openclaw and max users being the first in the chopping block
- eatsyourtacos 6mo agoThat's not an elephant in the room.. it's just proof of how insanely useful the tool is and the reality that so much more hardware is needed. Thus people saying "why are these companies building insanely large data centers" ... this is why!
- SpicyLemonZest 6mo agoI have no particular insight into the Anthropic backend, but it's possible in general for systems to have architectural issues which cannot be mitigated by just adding more hardware.
- skeeter2020 6mo agomaybe you should study up on correlation and causation before you declare "proof"; it's also possible that it goes the other way.
- eatsyourtacos 6mo agoThe proof is already there. It's concrete. I've seen it directly the last few months of using claude code. It closed the loop. It's insanely beneficial when used properly- that is a pure fact. You act like it's an opinion.
- georgeecollins 6mo agoI think it is telling that this audience down votes this. It's kind of obvious that the thing is being used a lot. Doesn't mean it works as well as advertised. Doesn't mean the business model they have works. Just means there is a lot of demand. You can't ignore that.
- BlueRock-Jake 6mo agoOn the nose. Dealt with this last week. Ran maybe 5 queries (not even in code) and was maxed out for the day. What a great way to spend my money
- bmurphy1976 6mo agoThere's another piece of the puzzle. Dario has very clearly stated they are not taking the OpenAI approach of spending $trillion to scale right now and assume the money comes later. They are spending significantly less and working towards profitability sooner. That means they are going to be far more constrained infrastructurally than some of the competition. I think this is some of the constraints that we are seeing.
- mvkel 6mo agoHe did say that. And, in virtually the same breath, said they would have to spend $trillions if they hope to remain SOTA, which they have to be [0],[1]. They don't have compute because they didn't play the game and get the good rates a couple of years ago, and are now forced to work with third-rate providers. That's not a strategy. I would take everything he says with a huge grain of salt. [0] “We’re buying a lot. We’re buying a hell of a lot. We’re buying an amount that’s comparable to what the biggest players in the game are buying.” “Profitability is this kind of weird thing in this field. I don’t think in this field profitability is actually a measure of spending down versus investing in the business.” [1] “You don’t just serve the current models and never train another model, because then you don’t have any demand because you’ll fall behind.” So he's not spending so they can be profitable, AND spending as much as the biggest players are spending, AND not really looking at profit as a measure of anything? K.
- muyuu 6mo agono grand strategy behind that they're looking to IPO in 2028 vs 2030 for OpenAI, who have raised more than double the funds so they're willing to play fast and loose with the terms and conditions of existing customers trying to make it happen those pockets must be drying up really fast