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Apple Studio Display and Studio Display XDR
- sq_ 8mo agoI was curious to see the "Innovative DICOM Medical Imaging" section. I wouldn't have thought that Apple would be interested in niche applications like viewing radiology imaging, but I guess they're probably interested in any cost-insensitive market for these since they're so expensive.
- AdamN 8mo agoIt's probably an easy win for them. It also might have been a good target when they were ideating on specs. Having these pro certifications gives the devices a halo of premium quality.
- geerlingguy 8mo agoRegular consumers probably don't buy these displays in bulk, when you can get very nice displays for less than half the price that are 98% the same on specs. So targeting checkbox-compliance for places like hospital systems is probably an easy win to generating / keeping some long term contracts.
- AdamN 8mo agoI don't think you can get a DICOM-certified display at 5K and 27" for half the price. Probably like $1k less but that's it - and if you're a radiologist making $300k+ you're not going to want to cheap out on a display.
- geerlingguy 8mo agoNo I'm saying regular consumers don't care about DICOM certification. They care about the other 98% of the specs, and can find a suitable alternative.
- danudey 8mo agoIf you're a radiologist making $300k+ you're going to want to use certified displays so that you don't get sued for using non-approved devices for diagnostic use, and that's going to cost you maybe $6k for a 21" monitor. https://www.monitors.com/products/jvc-cl-s500-rn?variant=42733194051673 https://www.monitors.com/products/jvc-cl-s500-rn?variant=427... $3300 for a 27" display is ridiculous in comparison. (Acknowledging that the link I provided is for a pair of monitors, but also those monitors are half price because they're refurbished)
- sbrother 8mo ago> you can get very nice displays for less than half the price that are 98% the same on specs. Can you recommend any displays with PPI and brightness equivalent to the studio display, with 120Hz+ refresh rates? I was waiting for this announcement to buy a studio display because I thought they might bring 120Hz to the base model, but $3300 is a lot to spend on a single display. I have an original studio display and a high refresh rate 4K OLED monitor, and they are both compromises unfortunately.
- rscrawfo 8mo agoThe price point is super painful. 2k would have been bad enough but I would have considered it. It’s a no go at $3,300 for me.
- themacguffinman 8mo agohttps://www.bestbuy.com/product/asus-rog-strix-27-dual-mode-5k-165hz-2k-330hz-1ms-gaming-monitor-with-freesync-premium-pro-and-hdr-black/JJGHGPRXXF/sku/6648335 https://www.bestbuy.com/product/asus-rog-strix-27-dual-mode-... I haven't found a glossy competitor, or even one with the same HDR spec, but this is the closest I could find so far.
- detourdog 8mo agoThis also keeps their development targets at the state of the art.
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- a2tech 8mo agoAt a local hospital the radiologists have been all Mac for a long long time. They refused to give it up and resisted all attempts to get them to switch. So it doesn’t surprise me at all.
- sq_ 8mo agoInteresting, I would've guessed that they would've forcibly been on Windows since time immemorial. Entirely unsurprised that someone would refuse to give up their workflow, though! I've rarely found a user with specific needs who wants to change literally anything else about their system, since what they have works for them.
- seec 8mo agoYeah, in my first job I was an Apple technician for a company that supplied DICOM solutions to radiologist, both in hospitals and standalone. I thought it was weird they spent so much money on Apple hardware when most of what we sold was servers that would be hidden anyway. But they do like OsiriX; once a solution is established in those fields, they stick with it, very conservative professions obviously...
- microtonal 8mo agoPretty lame that the Studio Display with a height-adjustable stand is still 400 Euro more. My biggest regret is getting my Gen 1 Studio Display without. Also the non-XDR is only a small upgrade otherwise, no 120Hz, no HDR, only Thunderbolt 5 and a new camera. Finally a downstream Thunderbolt port though. This is all after 4 years?
- mistersquid 8mo ago> Also the non-XDR is only a small upgrade otherwise, no 120Hz, no HDR, only Thunderbolt 5 and a new camera. Finally a downstream Thunderbolt port though. The camera is still 12MP but offers Desk View. Maybe this is a feature unlocked by the improved onboard A-series chip (A19?). I wouldn't sniff too hard about Thunderbolt 5. Thunderbolt 5 doubles throughput to 80 Gbps from 40. Would have loved refresh above 60Hz but then who's gonna get the XDR?
- AdamN 8mo agoYeah if they put everything on the lower end device than nobody would buy the higher end device.
- sylens 8mo agoInsanity that a monitor that expensive is stuck at 60Hz
- dmix 8mo ago> Pretty lame that the Studio Display with a height-adjustable stand is still 400 Euro more. just buy a nice one on amazon for $100, it's still VESA mounts
- conesus 8mo agoVESA mounts are only a few bucks and give you even better height and tilt adjustment. You also get desk space back. I have a shorter desk (24" vs typical 30" depth) and I have two monitors and a laptop mounted on 3 VESAs and I can extend them so that the monitor edge is inline with the desk edge, giving me the same 24" that a 30" desk would have with a monitor stand.
- thiagoperes 8mo agoI got the Kuycon G32P and it’s an incredible alternative. 32in + 6K for less than 2k$ Also works great with other sources like an Xbox I used a Pro Display XDR as my daily driver at work and the difference is minimal
- askonomm 8mo agoI'm really after higher refresh rate than 60, but it seems it would cost me an arm, leg, both kidneys and my newborns to get it at 5k or more resolution.
- 7839284023 8mo agoTake a look at: "AOC AGP277KX" OR "LG 27GM950B", both can do 5k @ 165 Hz
- boxed 8mo agoHah, the absolute shamelessness of that design and the site is crazy!
- zamadatix 8mo agoThat's a hefty premium to pay to not also have high refresh or high nits but the higher density options are so thin there's not really much else to go for if getting the resolution density is the goal.
- jryio 8mo agoI own this as well and while I appreciably the levelized cost, there is simply zero comparison to my gen 1 Studio Display. The gloss and shin on the Kuycon means it only works in dimmly lit rooms. Nano texture in mixed lighting scenarios is worth every penny even on a lower resolution and lower refresh rate panel.
- FinnKuhn 8mo agoDo you own the matte display version or the default one?
- alexarena 8mo agoSad, but not surprising to see Apple discontinue the Pro Display XDR. Hard to go back to 5K once you’ve used 6K.
- AdamN 8mo agoThe pixel density is the same I believe - I guess their theory is that 5K is more fungible than a large 6K display since people looking for more real estate can daisy chain the 5K displays.
- atonse 8mo agoI have two 27" 5k displays (both more than 5 years old, so they're not HDR or 120Hz). I know I'm privileged but my biggest issue with them isn't the HDR or 120Hz. It's that the seam between them causes me to not be able to use that "middle" real estate. So I was side-eyeing a 6k display cuz it would have most of the benefits of a dual 4k but more real estate and more flexibility in windowing. The curved displays also look quite promising (like the Neo G2), but not feeling like spending money when I have two perfectly good monitors that already work.
- AdamN 8mo agoCurved displays are polarizing - I definitely am not a fan although some people I know love them. In the olden days of dual monitors when the aspect ratios were more square it made a lot more sense to have them side by side. Now with the aspect ratio so wide it's weird having dual displays side by side. I'm actually tempted to move back to a single 27" display (currently have dual 24" 4k with one oriented vertical and one horizontal).
- atonse 8mo agoOh sorry I meant having one curved display (two 4k displays), so that there isn't a seam. So you would get more real estate options. https://www.samsung.com/us/monitors/gaming/57-odyssey-neo-g9-dual-4k-uhd-quantum-mini-led-240hz-1ms-hdr-1000-curved-gaming-monitor-sku-ls57cg952nnxza/ https://www.samsung.com/us/monitors/gaming/57-odyssey-neo-g9...
- densh 8mo agoI might be the only one, but it's still to this date (and dating all the way back to 2014 with the first iMac 5k display) Apple is the only company that truly gets HIDPI desktop displays with high quality gloss and 200+ ppi at screen this large. In the meantime popular and widely sold gaming screens with matte blur filters and mediocre ppi give me headache and eye fatigue after a few hours of use. Prior generation Studio Display is the only external display that truly worked for text heavy work with my eyes (including software engineering), and I'm sure the latest generation is fantastic as well.
- isqueiros 8mo agoYou should try some of the newer OLED panels. They're all glossy and look really good.
- whatever1 8mo agoText sucks in oled displays. 200 ppi is not enough to make it look decent. OLED smartphones have much higher ppi to deal with this.
- aethrum 8mo ago4k OLED text is great.
- jsheard 8mo agoUpcoming OLED panels are switching to vertical RGB stripe, similar to LCDs, which should fix the remaining text issues. https://www.tomshardware.com/monitors/lg-display-reveals-worlds-first-4k-240hz-oled-gaming-monitor-with-a-true-rgb-striped-subpixel-layout-new-panel-succeeds-woled-with-multi-stack-tandem-oled https://www.tomshardware.com/monitors/lg-display-reveals-wor...
- roboror 8mo agoWOLED handles text much better than QDOLED, I don't think anyone would say the 27" 4k versions "suck"
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- mark_l_watson 8mo agowow, the prices have come down. I inherited the old Pro XDR display when my father passed away a couple of years ago: I think he paid $6K for the display and another $1K for the stand. Off topic, but Apple seems to be dropping hardware costs / capability - relying more in subscription, app store, and cloud now? On an impulse buy, I bought the entry level MacBook Air at Best Buy about two months ago because it was $200 off list price. Amazingly capable laptop for $800.
- stetrain 8mo agoIt's cheaper but also 27" 5K instead of 32" 6K. I think it's kind of weird that they didn't just do two size options with similar specs.
- ErneX 8mo agoI was hoping for a 6k 32inch model. But even so, these 2 new monitors still don’t support multiple inputs.
- stevenpetryk 8mo agoI've been pretty happy with my ASUS ProArt PA32QCV (32", 6k, but only 60Hz). Kinda infuriating that Apple doesn't let you adjust third-party monitor brightness though (and my work disallows apps like BetterDisplay).
- ErneX 8mo agoThank you, that’s exactly the one I’m going to get now, I was just waiting for these from Apple to be announced to make the decision.
- vegardx 8mo agoI'm also a little bummed that they seem to have dropped the Pro Display XDR. I wanted a 32" display as the main display, and then use my existing two Studio Display vertically as secondary on each side. I guess we're going to see how the support for DP Alt-Mode will be, as I'm not sure how much bandwidth that can provide, so 120Hz might be out of the question. But for now that has been a simple way to get around the lack of multiple display inputs, you just needed a separate KVM switch for it.
- asdhtjkujh 8mo agoI just want to natively hook up a PS5 without capture card latency... I would've bought a Studio Display years ago but can't bring myself to purchase a $2000 device-locked monitor.
- kcrwfrd_ 8mo ago> Still no support for multiple inputs It looks like a nice display, but that’s a deal killer for me.
- raydev 8mo agoCurrent hardware and standards have them backed into a corner. No Mac today supports 6k 10-bit @ 120Hz because the DisplayPort 2.1 standard can't handle it uncompressed and that's the best Macs offer. HDMI 2.2 just came out last year and would likely be able to handle it over a TB5 cable, but again, no hardware support. So say that Apple did update the Pro Display XDR, what would it have exactly? More dimming zones for sure, the new Studio XDR has 4x the dimming zones. But they are clearly not confident in OLED tech for standalone monitors yet, so no OLED. Anyway, their updated XDR would be shipping with the same ol' 60Hz. Reviewers and social media and tech nerds would rip them to shreds, it'd be a PR clownshow. I can already see the "Apple really expects us to pay $7k for a 60Hz monitor in 2026" viral posts. And Apple being Apple would never explain why a monitor is lacking a feature like 120Hz, because it would mean acknowledging people had higher expectations. So we get an expensive 5k 120Hz monitor instead.
- agys 8mo agoToo small… I got used to my 4K Philips OLED 42" that I hung directly on the wall in front of my desk (no stand at all)… USB-C cable also charges the MacBook. This size is so good to work with; so much screen estate.
- dwayne_dibley 8mo ago42 inches! thats a lot of viewing area.
- agys 8mo agoIndeed! The big monitor is about 1m from me, the median a bit below my eyes. The laptop on which I type on sits in-between and the two screens align almost perfectly (optically). This setup works well for me and I feel it’s very ergonomic. That's why I can't go back to tiny (<32") screens anymore.
- whynotminot 8mo agoYou could get something smaller but have it closer to your face than 1m? The sort of “visual impact” a screen can have is mostly a combination of what percentage of your FOV it consumes. People think they’ve got a bunch of screen real estate when they buy a big TV to use as a monitor… and then they use it a twice or more the distance of a regular monitor.
- agys 8mo agoIt feels very nice on the eyes to have it at a certain distance.
- bsimpson 8mo agoYou're using the pixels for something different than the target audience. People who want a Studio Display want retina crispness. If you enjoy a 42" 4k, you're more concerned with real estate than image fidelity. I'm happy with a 65" 4K TV in my living room, but a 4K 27" monitor is borderline too low-res for computer work. Same pixel count, but different use cases.
- desideratum 8mo agoIt's mind-boggling that Apple is considering the base 27 inch Studio Display with the same 4 year old panel, but with some new accessories slapped on an "upgrade".
- desideratum 8mo agoOh, and if you want to utilize 120Hz on the XDR display, you're going to have to replace your perfectly functioning Mac. > Mac models with M1, M1 Pro, M1 Max, M1 Ultra, M2, and M3 support Studio Display XDR at up to 60Hz. All other Studio Display XDR features are supported.
- cosmic_cheese 8mo agoAlmost certainly due to bandwidth limitations on older versions of Thunderbolt. Full bit depth HDR 5k @ 120hz requires some absurd data thoughput.
- realityking 8mo agoI don’t think so. My M3 Pro is on the list as supporting 120 hz but it only has Thunderbolt 4. Also the base M4 doesn’t habe Thunderbolt 5 and it support 120 hz.
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- strongpigeon 8mo ago> My M3 Pro is on the list as supporting 120 hz Can you point me to said list? All I could find was: > Mac models with M1, M1 Pro, M1 Max, M1 Ultra, M2, and M3 support Studio Display XDR at up to 60Hz. All other Studio Display XDR features are supported. And The Verge reports: > There’s also support for adaptive sync that can adjust between 47Hz and 120Hz (if it’s connected to an M4 Mac or later, or the M5 iPad Pro) I got an M3 Max and was strongly considering upgrading my old monitor, but if I can't do 120hz, I'll just wait until I upgrade my laptop as well.
- cubefox 8mo agoXDR = LCD
- zamadatix 8mo agoOf course, even 5 layer tandem OLED would struggle to hit specs like 1000 nits sustained full panel brightness.
- cubefox 8mo agoSo what? Any LCD also struggles with black levels. They have advantages and disadvantages. The point is more that Apple tries, like TV manufacturers, to hide the LCD designation by instead coming up with a creative but misleading acronym. "XDR" in this case. This never happens with OLED. Which shows that manufacturers believe that most people care more about black level contrast than maximum brightness.
- zamadatix 8mo agoSo... it helps you understand that's the main selling point of the monitors is the range of brightness? XDR stands for "Extreme Dynamic Range" - not sure how that's misleading or why sticking "LCD" into the title helps anyone figure out what the features of the panel are as most LCDs have awful range. Using OLED directly in names works because OLED panels inherently have common features like blacks, contrast, and lack of blooming over other panel types. They can have other aspects added in (e.g. tandem OLED or the like) but by saying it's OLED you include these base things without needing a unique term. Saying other panels are LCD tells you next to nothing as there are so many types which can be paired in so many ways which can all have completely different characteristics. It's not a conspiracy to hide the truth that people must only want OLED displays, it's an attempt to say something rather than nothing in the name of the monitor so you know what it actually is beyond "not an OLED". If it were about trying to hide something the subhead wouldn't say mini-LED.
- cubefox 8mo ago> So... it helps you understand that's the main selling point of the monitors is the range of brightness? Doesn't help much because LCDs getting significantly brighter than OLEDs is normal. > XDR stands for "Extreme Dynamic Range" - not sure how that's misleading or why sticking "LCD" into the title helps anyone figure out what the features of the panel are as most LCDs have awful range The dynamic range of this LCD is still not necessarily higher than of an OLED because dynamic range depends both on maximal and minimal brightness. So "extreme dynamic range" is highly uninformative, while "OLED" or "LCD with local dimming", or something like that, wouldn't be. XDR is simply a marketing term. Apple is doing the same thing here as TV manufacturers who come up with ever new fantasy acronyms.
- testfrequency 8mo agoI’ve owned my nano-textured XDR since launch (with the stand), and I love it. As the years have gone, the only upgrade I wished to have was 120 refresh for some very limited design work - but 120 really is still not widely adopted in most places anywhere, so it’s really a non-issue for me. The new XDR is smaller, has a less ergo stand, and also loses the beautiful lattice etchings on the rear which I often admire. The XDR was overdue for a refresh, it’s nice the price dropped some, but I won’t be upgrading for now.
- tiffanyh 8mo agoSo Apple essentially introduce a new (middle) price point in their displays: $1,500 Studio Display $3,300 Studio Display XDR <-- NEW $6,000 Pro Display <-- DISCONTINUED ??? Apple is amazing at "laddering" people up to the next higher tier. EDIT: It appears the Pro Display has been discontinued.
- cptcobalt 8mo agoit seems like the Pro Display XDR is discontinued. The webpage for that now redirects to the Studio Displays XDR
- tiffanyh 8mo agoI can't find it either. Which means they don't have a 32" display option if true. Maybe it will also be updated, but on a different day this week?
- gbjw 8mo agoOn the announcement page, they say "Studio Display XDR replaces Pro Display XDR" in the footnotes, so doubtful.
- pfannkuchen 8mo agoThey could be considering the new high end display a different product rather than a refresh (for marketing purposes at least). I recall the XDR being announced alongside the last Mac Pro redesign. No new Mac Pro yet, so maybe they’ll announce the new large display whenever that is announced?
- jakubadamw 8mo agoThere is a note at the end of the linked announcement: ”Studio Display XDR replaces Pro Display XDR and starts at $3,299 (U.S.) and $3,199 (U.S.) for education.”
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- SirMaster 8mo agoReally, a $3300 Mini-LED display in 2026?
- post_break 8mo agoShow me an HDR display that is 2000 nits peak HDR calibrated 27" for under $3,300. Not a gaming monitor. Closest you can find is a lilliput UQ31 that has half the nits.
- danudey 8mo agoAnd which supports DICOM calibration, which normally costs you >$5k for a smaller (e.g. 21") display. It's now vastly cheaper to buy a Mac and a 27" Studio Display XDR than it is to buy a single 21" DICOM display for your clinic. Heck, it's not much more expensive to buy two SD XDRs than to buy one standard DICOM display.
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- Eric_WVGG 8mo agoI feel like if they can profitably sell a Mini-LED in a $1400 14" Macbook Pro, they can find a way to sell a larger one in a 27" display for under $3300… I have the last-gen Studio Display, pretty great during the day (the nano-texture is astonishing), but just looks like trash at night when the backlight overwhelms the blacks. My guess was that the “Studio Display 2” would introduce Mini-LED, and then a “Pro Display 2” would have the high-refresh and maybe 32". Wake me up in five years, I guess.
- WilcoKruijer 8mo ago> Studio Display XDR replaces Pro Display XDR How does a 5k display replace a 6k display? Are they giving up on 6k? Disappointing.
- iojcde 8mo agoIt's a smaller display
- raydev 8mo agoIt's impossible for them to support a 10-bit 6k@120Hz monitor with current hardware and keeping the old one around would be embarrassing. The Pro 5k will probably sell better/be more profitable anyway.
- adrianmsmith 8mo ago> keeping the old one around would be embarrassing On the other hand this is the company that sells a Mac Pro for $7k and it comes with an M2-based chip...
- raydev 8mo agoApple refuses to remove things without clear replacements, for better or more often worse. The 6k XDR has been replaced, apparently they've got something coming for the Mac Pro. I don't know why it wasn't the Mac Studio update last year. Maybe we find out at WWDC this year.
- JCharante 8mo agoThis is awesome! $3299 is a great price drop. I’m moving countries soon and wasn’t going to bring my old monitor, so this is perfect timing.
- ErneX 8mo agoIt’s a smaller monitor though, the discontinued one was 32 inch 6K resolution, this one is 27 inch 5K resolution. But it’s the same pixel density.
- detourdog 8mo agoI just tried to look up the power usage for XDR and they only list voltage no amps or watts. Did I miss something
- 827a 8mo ago> Studio Display XDR replaces Pro Display XDR and starts at $3,299 (U.S.) and $3,199 (U.S.) for education. My father-in-law is a monitor engineer. He is insanely gifted. We were in a Taiwanese factory together years ago and I asked him what it would cost to build the Pro Display XDR today. I will never forget his answer… “We can’t, we don’t know how to do it.”
- MountainTheme12 8mo agoMy father-in-law is a monitor engineer. He is insanely gifted. We were in a Korean factory together years ago and I asked him what it would cost to build the Pro Display XDR today. I will never forget his answer… “A lot less than you paid for it.”
- amluto 8mo ago> Featuring extensive connectivity to support a variety of workflows, Studio Display XDR includes two Thunderbolt 5 ports and two USB-C ports. That is not extensive connectivity. That’s the bare minimum one might credibly expect. If I were to consider buying a display like this, I would want at least two and preferably more inputs and at least a DisplayPort input. Not everything in the world is USB-C, especially when discrete GPUs are involved.
- johnwalkr 8mo agoIf I had to guess, with so many devices (speakers, microphone, webcam) on top of any external ones you connect, having multiple inputs especially one that can't possibly connect your computer to those devices, is virtually guaranteeing that some users will complain that it doesn't work. I believe there is a similar reason why usb-c hubs rarely have downstream usb-c ports. When you do find one, they always have several reviews complaining that it doesn't work with 3 hard drives and 2 monitors plugged in.
- dmix 8mo agoI might be missing how this differs from the previous model.
- zamadatix 8mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Studio_Display#Technical_specifications https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Studio_Display#Technical... has a good table. The short story is the 2nd generation Studio Display has some minor noted user facing changes but isn't that big of a difference. The Studio Display XDR is a bit of a merge of that and the old Pro level feature set.
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- massysett 8mo agoFew enough differences so that if I could get an old Studio Display at a discount, I would. But right now it seems the old one is still full price where it's available.
- sbszllr 8mo agoDaisy chaining finally supported.
- earthnail 8mo agoThe only monitor on the market of this size and resolution that I am aware of that has really high brightness and works well when I work outside on the terrace. Really glad Apple is building it.
- jhickok 8mo agoAre you being cheeky or do you really drag a monitor outside?
- t1234s 8mo agoanyone else still using their 30" cinema display from 2003?
- BirAdam 8mo agoI was until quite recently. Bought a cheap 4k panel to replace it. I was really sick of the number of adapters to keep it going, plus it was never particularly bright and had low contrast.
- mastercheif 8mo agoI was keeping mine alive on life support until about two years ago when I updated to the Samsung 5K display. Loved the extra screen real estate of the 30" ACD and it's a beautifully designed product that I enjoyed having on my desk. In its last year or two the backlight wear started to result in colors to become uneven. Blues were less vibrant and reds had tint issues. Was also difficult to justify the power draw, it had a 150w power supply.
- petercooper 8mo agoNot using, but I still have it. I get it running every couple of years and it's striking how dim it is compared to modern monitors. Yet I just can't bring myself to dispose of it or the 2007 Mac Pro it's attached to, despite them having absolutely zero utility.
- kalleboo 8mo agoI have a 2000 22" Cinema Display. The software brightness control even works. https://kalleboo.com/linked/cinema-display.jpg https://kalleboo.com/linked/cinema-display.jpg
- t1234s 8mo agoThis looks like a new iMac Pro minus the computer. Its a shame they don't have anything where you can just dock your iPhone Pro to one of these to run macOS.
- jasomill 8mo agoOr at the very least pair a Bluetooth mouse or trackpad to an iPhone for remote desktop use.
- lifty 8mo agoSo it seems the new Studio Display XDR is the only display on the market that offers: - 5k resolution at HIDPI (27inch) - 120hz refresh rate - TB5 and single cable connectivity. There are a couple of other HIDPI displays at 5k with 120hz refresh rate but they don't do TB5.
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- SamuelAdams 8mo agoDoes this still not support multiple inputs / devices?
- adamesque 8mo agoNope. Still does not. I have 2 macs on my desk and no simple way to connect them to a single Apple display! It's a glaring hole that to me suggests they have no idea who their market is for these.
- duxup 8mo agoI wish it came in an ultrawide format.
- laksmanv 8mo agoIs buying a used 32" XDR worth it if we want a 32" apple display? or is the tech not as good now?
- lgleason 8mo agoThe the smaller xdr has better brightness and thunderbolt 5, so it depends on what you are looking for.
- raydev 8mo ago- at worst you're getting a 7 year old monitor - the new 5k XDR has 4x as many dimming zones so it would objectively look better than the old XDR - not sure what the market for used 6k XDRs is like, but there's a good chance you'd be paying new 5k XDR monitor price for an old 6k XDR used monitor
- lgleason 8mo agoFor that base display, it is essentially the same as the previous monitor with the addition of Thunderbolt 5.
- anon7000 8mo agoSo the $1600 Studio Display does not have 120hz. Here’s some monitors you can buy at that price point: - 6k 32” monitor (similar PPI) (Acer PE320QX) - most high-end 4k displays (even OLEDs) with 144hz+ refresh rate 32” 4k isn’t great PPI, but it’s still fine PPI, at a reasonable distance. Double the refresh rate is a much more noticeable improvement to me than 40% better pixel density, at a distance where retina matters a bit less than laptops & handhelds. And you can get that for less than half the cost Plus, you can get it with multiple outputs & KVM to switch between MacBook & PC. And still run it off a single USB C cable.
- tmp10423288442 8mo agoDo you notice 120Hz and above when doing office tasks? I'd much rather have improved resolution and PPI rather than 120Hz for that use case.
- throawayonthe 8mo agoYes, absolutely
- nstfn 8mo agoany animation work
- archagon 8mo agoVery obvious when scrolling text and moving windows around, for example.
- kristoff_it 8mo ago100% yes
- amarshall 8mo agoYes. Even 90 Hz is a noticeable improvement over 60 Hz. I wouldn’t pick it over high-DPI, though.
- jasomill 8mo ago120 Hz vs 60 Hz? Night and day. Immediately noticeable just by moving the mouse pointer. Would expect improvements in scrolling to be apparent to even the most casual passers-by. 120 Hz can also noticeably improve frame pacing for 24p video*. 120 Hz vs 144 Hz? Barely noticeable when flipping between the two. Not sure if I'd pass an ABX test with 100% accuracy. Can't speak for 240 Hz or higher, as I haven't used them. * Though 119.88 Hz is probably a better default for this since most non-DCI "24p" video is still 23.976 FPS; this is changing, but until browsers and streaming apps support VRR for video, I'm not convinced this is a good thing due to the mountain of legacy 23.976 FPS content.
- hecifato 8mo agoIs there any details on from whom Apple is sourcing the panel from? LG and MSI have both shown off 5K monitors at 165hz and 2304 dimming zones recently. I said about two years back I’d wait to upgrade my 1080p monitor until Apple shipped a high refresh rate one. I knew the monkey’s paw would curl but at nearly $5000 CAD that’s a hard no.
- archagon 8mo agoCurious to see if the XDR works at 120Hz on Windows; and if so, if there’s a KVM switch that would work with it. Probably not worth the hassle, but I wish there was literally any other display manufacturer out there with premium build quality.
- data-ottawa 8mo agoI was hoping for OLED or dual-OLED based monitors, especially for this price point but I’d want this slightly lower than the XDR price. Sequoia+Tahoe seems like they’ve been laying the groundwork for OLED macs — removing the menu bar background and making text dynamically change colour, moving/cycling backgrounds, liquid glass reducing the effect of static UI elements, etc. I personally wouldn’t buy a new LCD based display anymore at this price. There are flaws inherent to the technology that affect all of my recent Apple displays (Studio Display, M1 Pro iPad, M1 Pro MPB, M4 Pro MPB). After using OLED TVs and OLED iPhones for years, it’s very difficult to look past LCD’s issues (edge yellowing+dimming specifically affects all my Apple screens more than I am happy with). There are no reviews/studies on long-term aging of Apple’s LCD displays, so all of this should be taken with a grain of salt, maybe my devices are just unlucky. I don’t know if the Pro XDR line is better or how that would carry over to the Studio XDR. I haven’t seen many complains about the Pro XDR, but the Studio Display form factor has a different cooling design which would affect longevity. I will say I can never go back from retina resolution text, and that alone has made the experience of Studio Display good. If we could get OLED it would be perfection. I think I would have to see the XDR in practice to be convinced, but 120hz requiring a whole new computer does make it a non-starter for me.
- craftkiller 8mo agoAlong similar lines, there's no way I would buy an OLED at this price point. If I'm dropping $3k on a monitor, it needs to be a technology that lasts, not a technology that wears out over time.
- film42 8mo agoI bought an LG 32" 4k OLED for $999 and it's hands down the best display I've ever used. No burn in even with lots of static browser/terminal windows for days and days. The fact that it's $3k and _not_ OLED is insulting.
- craftkiller 8mo agoI believe these monitors are meant for professionals, which means it is going to be used in bright office buildings. That means running the display at high brightness which is the worst case for OLED since they degrade faster at higher brightness. Quoting wikipedia: > A US Department of Energy paper shows that the expected lifespans of OLED lighting products goes down with increasing brightness, with an expected lifespan of 40,000 hours at 25% brightness, or 10,000 hours at 100% brightness
- bsimpson 8mo agoAs long as we're here: What are people's current favorites for a 5K 27" screen that doesn't cost as much as a whole damned computer?
- asimovDev 8mo agoA lot of people are saying nice things about Kuycon displays, but no personal experience with those. Otherwise I think Asus has good offerings, cannot remember the name though Also JapanNext offers a 6k screen for <$1000, but it hasn't started shipping yet to my knowledge
- dabeeeenster 8mo agoI got this https://www.samsung.com/uk/monitors/high-resolution/viewfinity-s9-27-inch-5k-resolution-ls27c902pauxxu/ https://www.samsung.com/uk/monitors/high-resolution/viewfini... and am pretty happy with it. I got it fairly cheap with a student voucher (I think ~650 GBP). It had some coil whine initially but that has gone. There's a load of nonsense software in it but I just have it disconnected from the internet and only use it as a monitor. The web cam is not useful but I don't use that either. This was a couple of years ago - I think that there are a lot more options available now?
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- SamuelAdams 8mo agoI have been using 3 VP2788-5K for 6 months. Much better than 1440p or 4k monitors IMO. I spend most of the day on teams meetings and looking at code. Text is very crisp at this DPI. The built in thunderbolt dock works reliably. It is annoying how the cables stick down on the bottom of the monitors. A few right angle adapters helps with that.
- paozac 8mo agoAsus ProArt
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- sberens 8mo agoAs someone who likes bright monitors, I'm excited to try the 2000 nit peak brightness! Are there any comparable monitors to the XDR brightness wise?
- zamadatix 8mo agoIf you can put up with wide curved panels the 49" variant of the Samsung Odyssey Neo G9 from 2021 offered HDR2000 as a 5120x1440 display (basically 2x27" 2560x1440). I was heartbroken all of the flat panel normal aspect monitors in that family since have had other severe tradeoffs and it's only the curved ultrawides that were given the better specs.
- mackopes 8mo ago32" when?
- IAmGraydon 8mo agoApple just doesn't seem to be hitting on all cylinders anymore. The price for this thing is outrageous compared to the competition, and the competition isn't lagging very far behind. It's certainly pretty and I'm sure it's an incredible piece of tech, but $1,600 on the low end and $3,600 on the high end is just not going to sell in this environment. While the competition has always started with the minimum viable product for a low price and iterated on the product, Apple's approach has been the opposite - maximum possible product and then try to iterate the price point down. The problem is that the competition is now encroaching on their product quality territory, and the offer doesn't seem as tempting. For example, see the ASUS Pro Art, which has arguably better specs with the addition of HDR10 for $799. Or the BenQ MA270S, which you can buy two of for $1,800.
- dcchambers 8mo agoA $1600 60hz display in 2026 just feels extortionate. The Studio Display XDR seems nice, but I wish they would have kept a 32" option.
- BlobberSnobber 8mo agoEspecially since a very similar, if not exactly the same, panel from the XDR will be in monitors from other brands for a fraction of the price (like the LG 27GM950B).
- jpsimons 8mo agoI keep hoping someone will release a nice monitor that’s monitor shaped (16:10) instead of TV shaped (16:9). That’s part of why early 2000s Cinema Displays are so great. Not to mention the last great Mac laptop before it all went south — the 2015 MBP
- bdcravens 8mo agoI may (think that I) have a 29 year old mind, but my eyes are at least their true 49 years of age, so I don't feel like I could do anything less than a 32 inch monitor, especially if I'm paying a premium.
- maz1b 8mo agoI really can't believe they discontinued the Pro Display XDR.. what is wrong with them? A company the size of Apple, surely must have the resources to update it every couple of years.
- m132 8mo agoDisplayPort 2.1 cannot reliably drive 6K at 120hz
- veber-alex 8mo agoWith DSC it can drive even 8k@120Hz.
- m132 8mo agoYes, but can you call a monitor that relies on lossy compression to display in its native resolution professional?
- lastofthemojito 8mo agoAs sort of a tangent, am I the only one who has had bad experiences doing what the woman in the press release is doing? Ya know, touching the laptop while it's connected to external devices via Thunderbolt and/or USB-C. Sure, most of the time the cable seems secure enough to maintain connection when I accidentally nudge the laptop. But every once in a while, when I slightly shift the laptop here or there, flicker and everything goes batshit. The monitor loses connection, so maybe (depending on config) the laptop screen changes resolution and then eventually reconnects and flickers and changes back. Or the network drops out (if I'm connected to Ethernet over Thunderbolt). Or a program freaks out because the drive it was using disappeared. Or the laptop really freaks out and kernel panics. Like I said, it doesn't happen a ton, but it's happened a handful of times over the years, just enough that now I always use an external mouse and keyboard with a docked laptop to avoid such nonsense.
- BlobberSnobber 8mo agoHappens to me with HDMI, not USB-C
- als0 8mo agoSince the base model is still 60Hz, I'm struggling to pick between the base model or a Kuycon G32P. Can anyone on here help?
- simondotau 8mo agoIt shouldn't be a struggle. If you need colour quality (e.g. content creation/consumption) get the Studio Display. If you need real estate (e.g. technical work or programming) get the Kuycon.
- csjr 8mo agoMay be an overkill but is anyone using it for coding? How is the experience so far?
- OneOffAsk 8mo agoI bought one for coding. I no longer can read text for an extended period with lower DPI monitors. There’s a few reasons why. 1. Non integer scaling sucks on Linux. It sucks on all OSs, but it’s just unusable on Linux IMO. 2. Text antialiasing sucks for most OSs except Microsoft ClearType, but I hate Windows. I currently use an old LG UltraFine 5k. It’s physically cracking / falling apart and has atrocious burn in. I tried replacing it with a Dell 32” 6k monitor. The stupid matte coating on it and seemingly all other high DPI screens is so, so bad. I just want glossy 5k at 120Hz with decent build quality and color accuracy. I don’t even like the fact it’s mini LED. Blooming is pretty awful on those things. I hope there’s a way to turn it off. So yes, I bought a $3,500 monitor to read text because no one else can seem to do it even remotely acceptably.
- Joe_Boogz 8mo agoSo how is the blooming while editing code with a dark background? Im also considering purchasing one of these for codework.
- QuiEgo 8mo agoOddly thankful my current Studio Display doesn’t feel left behind by this upgrade and thus I feel no need to upgrade
- maytc 8mo agoWas hoping to upgrade from my 2017 iMac and this new studio display is quite a bummer. 9 years later and it's basically the same display spec. (500 nits spec bump to 600 nits)
- ebbi 8mo agoConvert iMac to work as external display, get a Mac Mini -> Win
- ChildOfChaos 8mo agoBit disappointed with this release. I have a iMac 5k that I want to replace with a Mac mini or Studio, but monitors for Mac's are difficult since you need 5k at 27" or even 6k at 32" to keep th pixel density and then they aren't many options. It's getting better, but prices are very high and a big issue with the 5k 27" monitors is that they are stuck at 60hz, Apple announced an approved offering here, but it's very expensive for the XDR and ideally I'd like to upgrade to 6k at 32" and have 120hz but that just seems unobtainable at the moment.
- JCharante 8mo ago27” instead of 32” is very lame
- hmeh 8mo agoI've tried a handful of 4k HDR/Mini-LED monitors. I think something that folks are missing on this is that HDR on this display will likely actually work for desktop usage, similar to how it does on a MacBook Pro. With any other monitor I've tried, switching to HDR leads to either blown out colors and/or bad blooming/other problems. Maybe LG's version of this will also work, but I'm not holding my breath there. Having a display that "just works" is worth a lot, in my opinion.
- scuderiaseb 8mo agoI can’t believe it’s 2026 and while I had a 5K iMac in 2016, today it’s still impossible to find a good 5K display. The Studio Display XDR fits the bill, but in Sweden it’s ridiculously priced, even more ridiculous than in USD which is also ridiculously priced. There are no other monitors that are 5K and 120Hz. But I still can’t pay what Apple is asking for this.