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Claude Cowork exfiltrates files
- teekert 9mo agoEverything is a .exe if you're LLM enough.
- jerryShaker 9mo agoAI companies just 'acknowledging' risks and suggesting users take unreasonable precautions is such crap
- NitpickLawyer 9mo ago> users take unreasonable precautions It doesn't help that so far the communicators have used the wrong analogy. Most people writing on this topic use "injection" a la SQL injection to describe these things. I think a more apt comparison would be phishing attacks. Imagine spawning a grandma to fix your files, and then read the e-mails and sort them by category. You might end up with a few payments to a nigerian prince, because he sounded so sweet.
- uhfraid 9mo agoCommand/“prompt” injection is correct terminology and what they’re typically mapped to in the CVE E.g. CVE-2026-22708
- NitpickLawyer 9mo agoPerhaps I worded that poorly. I agree that technically this is an injection. What I don't think is accurate is to then compare it to sql injection and how we fixed that. Because in SQL world we had ways to separate control channels from data channels. In LLMs we don't. Until we do, I think it's better to think of the aftermath as phishing, and communicate that as the threat model. I guess what I'm saying is "we can't use the sql analogy until there's a architectural change in how LLMs work". With LLMs, as soon as "external" data hits your context window, all bets are off. There are people in this thread adamant that "we have the tools to fix this". I don't think that we do, while keeping them useful (i.e. dynamically processing external data).
- rsynnott 9mo agoIt largely seems to amount to "to use this product safely, simply don't use it".
- sodapopcan 9mo agoI believe that's known as "The Steve Jobs Solution" but don't quote me on that. Regardless, just don't hold it that way.
- AmbroseBierce 9mo agoIt's exactly like guns, we know they will be used in school shootings but that doesn't stop their selling in the slightest, the businesses just externalize all the risks claiming it's all up fault of the end users and that they mentioned all the risks, and that's somehow enough in any society build upon unfettered capitalism like the US.
- delaminator 9mo agoIf you’re going to use “school shootings” as your “muh capitalism”, the counter argument is the millions of people who don’t do school shootings despite access to guns. There are common factors between all of the school shooters from the last decade - pharmacology and ideology.
- AmbroseBierce 9mo agoit's not the mental issues they had, its the drugs they were taking for it right? Please. Look at what Australia did after their 1996 shooting, the main reason they have so few of them, but I know you won't, as millions of Americans you will forever do all sort of mental gymnastics to justify keeping easy access to semi-automatic guns. > From the information obtained, it appears that most school shooters were not previously treated with psychotropic medications - and even when they were, no direct or causal association was found https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31513302/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31513302/
- delaminator 9mo agoIf you like, but I'm not American. Millions of Americans believe the right to bear arms is not a right the govt. should be able to take away. Obesity kills 10x more Americans than guns. Australia locked up millions of people in their homes and forced them into dangerous medical procedures.
- nutjob2 9mo ago> Australia locked up millions of people in their homes and forced them into dangerous medical procedures. Your comically bad faith description of Aus covid measures is pure nonsense. > Obesity kills 10x more Americans than guns. And? Obesity kills roughly the same number of people in other countries but guns kill 40 times more people in the US than other countries.
- ronbenton 9mo agoTelling uses to “watch out for prompt injections” is insane. Less than 1% of the population knows what that even means. Not to mention these agents are commonly used to summarize things people haven’t read. This is more than unreasonable, it’s negligent
- intended 9mo agoWe will have tv shows with hackers “prompt injecting” before that number goes beyond 1%
- kingjimmy 9mo agopromptarmor has been dropping some fire recently, great work! Wish them all the best in holding product teams accountable on quality.
- NewsaHackO 9mo agoYes, but they definitely have a vested interest in scaring people into buying their product to protect themselves from an attack. For instance, this attack requires 1) the victim to allow claude to access a folder with confidential information (which they explicitly tell you not to do), and 2) for the attacker to convince them to upload a random docx as a skills file in docx, which has the "prompt injection" as an invisible line. However, the prompt injection text becomes visible to the user when it is output to the chat in markdown. Also, the attacker has to use their own API key to exfiltrate the data, which would identify the attacker. In addition, it only works on an old version of Haiku. I guess prompt armour needs the sales, though.
- jsheard 9mo agoRemember kids: the "S" in "AI Agent" stands for "Security".
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- kamil55555 9mo agothere are three 's's in the sentence "AI Agent": one at the beginning and two at the end.
- jeffamcgee 9mo agoThat's why I use "AI Agents"
- racl101 9mo agoHey wait a minute?!
- mrbonner 9mo agoYou are absolutely right!!!
- rpigab 9mo agoWe just need to wait for AGI. There's an "S" in "AGI", right? There has to be.
- woggy 9mo agoWhat's the chance of getting Opus 4.5-level models running locally in the future?
- SOLAR_FIELDS 9mo agoProbably not too far off, but then you’ll probably still want the frontier model because it will be even better. Unless we are hitting the maxima of what these things are capable of now of course. But there’s not really much indication that this is happening
- woggy 9mo agoI was thinking about this the other day. If we did a plot of 'model ability' vs 'computational resources' what kind of relationship would we see? Is the improvement due to algorithmic improvements or just more and more hardware?
- ryoshu 9mo agoI think the harnesses are responsible for a lot of recent gains.
- NitpickLawyer 9mo agoNot really. A 100 loc "harness" that is basically a llm in a loop with just a "bash" tool is way better today than the best agentic harness of last year. Check out mini-swe-agent.
- SOLAR_FIELDS 9mo agoEveryone is currently discovering independently that “Ralph Wigguming” is a thing
- chasd00 9mo agoi don't think adding more hardware does anything except increase performance scaling. I think most improvement gains are made through specialized training (RL) after the base training is done. I suppose more GPU RAM means a larger model is feasible, so in that case more hardware could mean a better model. I get the feeling all the datacenters being proposed are there to either serve the API or create and train various specialized models from a base general one.
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- kogus 9mo agoI don't think I understand what you are trying to say. Are you suggesting that if a technological advance is sufficiently important, that we should ignore or accept security threats that it poses? That is how I read your comment, but it seems so ludicrous an assertion that I question whether I have understood you correctly.
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- dclowd9901 9mo agoAnd what's your stake in how AI models are perceived?
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- manuelmoreale 9mo agoTIL that we invented electricity. This comment is insane but Pichai said that “AI is one of the most important things humanity is working on. It is more profound than, I dunno, electricity or fire” so at this point I’m not surprised by anything when it comes to AI and stupid takes
- rsynnott 9mo agoI mean, "guy whose job depends on this stuff working out overhypes it" isn't all that surprising.
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- caminanteblanco 9mo agoWell that didn't take very long...
- heliumtera 9mo agoIt took no time at all. This exploit is intrinsic to every model in existence. The article quotes the hacker news announcement. People were already lamenting this vulnerability BEFORE the model being accessible. You could make a model that acknowledges it has receive unwanted instructions, in theory, you cannot prevent prompt injection. Now this is big because the exfiltration is mediated by an allowed endpoint (anthropic mediates exfiltration). It is simply sloppy as fuck, they took measures against people using other agents using Claude Code subscriptions for the sake of security and muh safety while being this fucking sloppy. Clown world. Just make so the client can only establish connections with the original account associated endpoints and keys on that isolated ephemeral environment and make this the default, opting out should be market as big time yolo mode.
- caminanteblanco 9mo agoWell I do think that the main exacerbating factor in this case was the lack of proper permissions handling around that file-transfer endpoint. I know that if the user goes into YOLO mode, prompt injection becomes a statistics game, but this locked down environment doesn't have that excuse.
- wcoenen 9mo ago> you cannot prevent prompt injection I wonder if might be possible by introducing a concept of "authority". Tokens are mapped to vectors in an embedding space, so one of the dimensions of that space could be reserved to represent authority. For the system prompt, the authority value could be clamped to maximum (+1). For text directly from the user or files with important instructions, the authority value could be clamped to a slightly lower value, or maybe 0 because the model needs to be balance being helpful against refusing requests from a malicious user. For random untrusted text (e.g. downloaded from the internet by the agent), it would be set to the minimum value (-1). The model could then be trained to fully respect or completely ignore instructions, based on the "authority" of the text. Presumably it could learn to do the right thing with enough examples.
- burkaman 9mo agoIn this demonstration they use a .docx with prompt injection hidden in an unreadable font size, but in the real world that would probably be unnecessary. You could upload a plain Markdown file somewhere and tell people it has a skill that will teach Claude how to negotiate their mortgage rate and plenty of people would download and use it without ever opening and reading the file. If anything you might be more successful this way, because a .md file feel less suspicious than a .docx.
- fragmede 9mo agoMind you, that opinion isn't universal. For programmer and programmer-adjacent technically minded individuals, sure, but there are still places where a pdf for a resume over docx is considered "weird". For those in that bubble, which ostensibly this product targets, md files are what hackers who are going to steal my data use.
- burkaman 9mo agoYeah I guess I meant specifically for the population that uses LLMs enough to know what skills are.
- reactordev 9mo agoThis is why I use signed PDF’s. If a recruiter or manager asks for a docx, I move on. You’re only going to ever get a read only version.
- w-ll 9mo agoCare to share your resume? I've built PDF scanning tech before the rise of llms, OCR at the very least will defeat this.
- jagged-chisel 9mo agoAre you talking about defeating digital signatures?
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- rvz 9mo agoExfiltrated without a Pwn2Own in 2 days of release and 1 day after my comment [0], despite "sandboxes", "VMs", "bubblewrap" and "allowlists". Exploited with a basic prompt injection attack. Prompt injection is the new RCE. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46601302 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46601302
- ramoz 9mo agoSandboxes are an overhyped buzzword of 2026. We wanna be able to do meaningful things with agents. Even in remote instances, we want to be able to connect agents to our data. I think there's a lot of over-engineering going there & there are simpler wins to protect the file system, otherwise there are more important things we need to focus on. Securing autonomous, goal-oriented AI Agents presents inherent challenges that necessitate a departure from traditional application or network security models. The concept of containment (sandboxing) for a highly adaptive, intelligent entity is intrinsically limited. A sufficiently sophisticated agent, operating with defined goals and strategic planning, possesses the capacity to discover and exploit vulnerabilities or circumvent established security perimeters.
- tempaccsoz5 9mo agoNow, with our ALL NEW Agent Desktop High Tech System™, you too can experience prompt injection! Plus, at no extra cost, we'll include the fabled RCE feature - brought to you by prompt injection and desktop access. Available NOW in all good frontier models and agentic frameworks!
- Tiberium 9mo agoA bit unrelated, but if you ever find a malicious use of Anthropic APIs like that, you can just upload the key to a GitHub Gist or a public repo - Anthropic is a GitHub scanning partner, so the key will be revoked almost instantly (you can delete the gist afterwards). It works for a lot of other providers too, including OpenAI (which also has file APIs, by the way). https://support.claude.com/en/articles/9767949-api-key-best-practices-keeping-your-keys-safe-and-secure#h_9689e97cd8 https://support.claude.com/en/articles/9767949-api-key-best-... https://docs.github.com/en/code-security/reference/secret-security/supported-secret-scanning-patterns https://docs.github.com/en/code-security/reference/secret-se...
- sebmellen 9mo agoPretty brilliant solution, never thought of that before.
- hakanderyal 9mo agoThis was apparent from the beginning. And until prompt injection is solved, this will happen, again and again. Also, I'll break my own rule and make a "meta" comment here. Imagine HN in 1999: 'Bobby Tables just dropped the production database. This is what happens when you let user input touch your queries. We TOLD you this dynamic web stuff was a mistake. Static HTML never had injection attacks. Real programmers use stored procedures and validate everything by hand.' It's sounding more and more like this in here.
- fragmede 9mo agoMind you, Repilit AI dropping the production database was only 5 months ago! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44632575 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44632575
- ramoz 9mo agoOne concern nobody likes to talk about is that this might not be a problem that is solvable even with more sophisticated intelligence - at least not through a self-contained capability. Arguably, the risk grows as the AI gets better.
- hakanderyal 9mo agoSolving this probably requires a new breakthrough or maybe even a new architecture. All the billions of dollars haven't solved it yet. Lethal trifecta [0] should be a required reading for AI usage in info critical spaces. [0]: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Jun/16/the-lethal-trifecta/ https://simonwillison.net/2025/Jun/16/the-lethal-trifecta/
- ramoz 9mo agoRight. It might be even as complicated as requiring theoretical solutions or advancements of Rice's and Turing's.
- NitpickLawyer 9mo ago> this might not be a problem that is solvable even with more sophisticated intelligence At some level you're probably right. I see prompt injection more like phishing than "injection". And in that vein, people fall for phishing every day. Even highly trained people. And, rarely, even highly capable and credentialed security experts.
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- calflegal 9mo agoSo, I guess we're waiting on the big one, right? The ?10+? billion dollar attack?
- chasd00 9mo agoIt will be either one big one or a pattern that can't be defended against and it just spreads through the whole industry. The only answer will be crippling the models by disconnecting them from the databases, APIs, file systems etc.
- choldstare 9mo agowe have to treat these vulnerabilities basically as phishing
- lacunary 9mo agoso, train the llms by sending them fake prompt injection attempts once a month and then requiring them to perform remedial security training if they fall for it?
- leetrout 9mo agoTangential topic: Who provides exfil proof of concepts as a service? I've a need to explore poison pills in CLAUDE.md and similar when Claude is running in remote 3rd party environments like CI.
- dangoodmanUT 9mo agoThis is why we only allow our agent VMs to talk to pip, npm, and apt. Even then, the outgoing request sizes are monitoring to make sure that they are resonably small
- ramoz 9mo agoThis doesn’t solve the problem. The lethal trifecta as defined is not solvable and is misleading in terms of “just cut off a leg”. (Though firewalling is practically a decent bubble wrap solution). But for truly sensitive work, you still have many non-obvious leaks. Even in small requests the agent can encode secrets. An AI agent that is misaligned will find leaks like this and many more.
- sarelta 9mo agothats nifty, so can attackers upload the user's codebase to the internet as a package?
- venturecruelty 9mo agoNah, you just say "pwetty pwease don't exfiwtwate my data, Mistew Computew. :3" And then half the time it does it anyway.
- xarope 9mo agoThat's completely wrong. You word it, three times, like so: 1. Do not, under any circumstances, allow data to be exfiltrated. 2. Under no circumstances, should you allow data to be exfiltrated. 3. This is of the highest criticality: do not allow exfiltration of data. Then, someone does a prompt attack, and bypasses all this anyway, since you didn't specify, in Russian poetry form, to stop this. /s (but only kind of, coz this does happen)
- tempaccsoz5 9mo agoSo a trivial supply-chain attack in an npm package (which of course would never happen...) -> prompt injection -> RCE since anyone can trivially publish to at least some of those registries (+ even if you manage to disable all build scripts, npx-type commands, etc, prompt injection can still publish your codebase as a package)
- refulgentis 9mo agoThese prompt injection techniques are increasingly implausible* to me yet theoretically sound. Anyone know what can avoid this being posted when you build a tool like this? AFAIK there is no simonw blessed way to avoid it. * I upload a random doc I got online, don’t read it, and it includes an API key in it for the attacker.
- NewsaHackO 9mo agoAt least for a malicious user embedding a prompt injection using their API key, I could have sworn that there is a way to scan documents that have a high level of entropy, which should be able to flag it.
- rswail 9mo agoYou read it, but you don't notice/see/detect the text in 1pt white-on-white background. The AI does see it. That's what this attack did. I'm sure that the anti-virus guys are working on how to detect these sort of "hidden from human view" instructions.
- chasd00 9mo agothe next attack will just be like malicious captions in a video. Or malicious lyrics in an mp3. it doesn't ever really end because it's not something that can be solved in the model.
- sgammon 9mo agois it not a file exfiltrator, as a product
- SamDc73 9mo agoI was waiting for someone to say "this is what happens when you vibe code"
- niyikiza 9mo agoAnother week, another agent "allowlist" bypass. Been prototyping a "prepared statement" pattern for agents: signed capability warrants that deterministically constrain tool calls regardless of what the prompt says. Prompt injection corrupts intent, but the warrant doesn't change. Curious if anyone else is going down this path.
- ramoz 9mo agoI would like to know more. I’m with a startup in this space. Our focus is “verifiable computing” via cryptographic assurances across governance and provenance. That includes signed credentials for capability and intent warrants.
- niyikiza 9mo agoInteresting. Are you focused on the delegation chain (how capabilities flow between agents) or the execution boundary (verifying at tool call time)? I've been mostly on the delegation side. Working on this at github.com/tenuo-ai/tenuo. Would love to compare approaches. Email in profile?
- ramoz 9mo agoNo, right in the weeds of delegation. I reached out on one channel that you'll see.
- rsynnott 9mo agoThat was quick. I mean, I assumed it'd happen, but this is, what, the first day?
- hombre_fatal 9mo agoOne issue here seems to come from the fact that Claude "skills" are so implicit + aren't registered into some higher level tool layer. Unlike /slash commands, skills attempt to be magical. A skill is just "Here's how you can extract files: {instructions}". Claude then has to decide when you're trying to invoke a skill. So perhaps any time you say "decompress" or "extract" in the context of files, it will use the instructions from that skill. It seems like this + no skill "registration" makes it much easier for prompt injection to sneak new abilities into the token stream and then make it so you never know if you might trigger one with normal prompting. We probably want to move from implicit tools to explicit tools that are statically registered. So, there currently are lower level tools like Fetch(url), Bash("ls:*"), Read(path), Update(path, content). Then maybe with a more explicit skill system, you can create a new tool Extract(path), and maybe it can additionally whitelist certain subtools like Read(path) and Bash("tar *"). So you can whitelist Extract globally and know that it can only read and tar. And since it's more explicit/static, you can require human approval for those tools, and more tools can't be registered during the session the same way an API request can't add a new /endpoint to the server.
- RA_Fisher 9mo agoIf they made it clear when skills were being used / monitored that, it'd seem to mitigate a lot of the problem.
- adastra22 9mo agoIt is shown in the chat log.
- reactordev 9mo agoShown after the fact
- xg15 9mo agoI think your conclusion is the right one, but just to note - in OP's example, the user very explicitly told Claude to use the skill. If there is any intransparent autodetection with skills, it wasn't used in this example.
- Escapade5160 9mo agoThat was fast.
- Animats 9mo ago> "This attack is not dependent on the injection source - other injection sources include, but are not limited to: web data from Claude for Chrome, connected MCP servers, etc." Oh, no, another "when in doubt, execute the file as a program" class of bugs. Windows XP was famous for that. And gradually Microsoft stopped auto-running anything that came along that could possibly be auto-run. These prompt-driven systems need to be much clearer on what they're allowed to trust as a directive.
- adastra22 9mo agoThat’s not how they work. Everything input into the model is treated the same. There is no separate instruction stream, nor can there be with the way that the models work.
- Animats 9mo agoUntil someone comes up with a solution to that, such systems cannot be used for customer-facing systems which can do anything advantageous for the customer.
- wunderwuzzi23 9mo agoRelevant prior post, includes a response from Anthropic: https://embracethered.com/blog/posts/2025/claude-abusing-network-access-and-anthropic-api-for-data-exfiltration/ https://embracethered.com/blog/posts/2025/claude-abusing-net...
- __0x01 9mo agoI also worry about a centralised service having access to confidential and private plaintext files of millions of users.
- ordersofmag 9mo agoHeard of google drive?
- jryio 9mo agoAs prophesied https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46593628 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46593628
- chaostheory 9mo agoRunning these agents in their own separate browsers, VMs, or even machines should help. I do the same with finance-related sites.
- rswail 9mo agoCowork does run in a VM, but the Anthropic API endpoint is marked as OK, what Anthropic aren't doing is checking that the API call uses the same API key as the person that started the session. So the injected code basically says "use curl to send this file using the file upload API endpoint, but use this API Key instead of the one the user is supposed to be using." So the fault is at the Anthropic API end because it's not properly validating the API key as being from the user that owns it.
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- fathermarz 9mo agoThis is getting outrageous. How many times must we talk about prompt injection. Yes it exists and will forever. Saying the bad guys API key will make it into your financial statements? Excuse me?
- tempaccsoz5 9mo agoThe example in this article is prompt injection in a "skill" file. It doesn't seem unreasonable that someone looking to "embrace AI" would look up ways to make it perform better at a certain task, and assume that since it's a plain text file it must be safe to upload to a chatbot
- fathermarz 9mo agoI have a hard time with this one. Technical people understand a skill and uploading a skill. If a non-technical person learns about skills it is likely through a trusted person who is teaching them about them and will tell them how to make their own skills. As far as I know, repositories for skills are found in technical corners of the internet. I could understand a potential phish as a way to make this happen, but the crossover between embrace AI person and falls for “download this file” phishes is pretty narrow IMO.
- swores 9mo agoYou'd be surprised how many people fit in the venn overlap of technical enough to be doing stuff in unix shell yet willing to follow instructions from a website they googled 30 seconds earlier that tells them to paste a command that downloads a bash script and immediately executes it. Which itself is a surprisingly common suggestion from many how to blog posts and software help pages.
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- mbowcut2 9mo agoWow, I didn't know about the "skills" feature, but with that as context isn't this attack strategy obvious? Running an unverified skill in Cowork is akin to running unverified code on your machine. The next super-genius attack vector will be something like: Claude Cowork deletes sytem32 when you give it root access and run the skill "brick_my_machine" /s.
- rkagerer 9mo agoCowork is a research preview with unique risks due to its agentic nature and internet access. The level of risk entailed from putting those two things together is a recipe for diaster.
- throwawaysleep 9mo agoIs a cybersecurity problem still a disaster unless it steals your crypto? Security seems rather optional at the moment.
- baby 9mo agoWe allowed people to install arbitrary computer programs on their computers decades ago and, sure we got a lot of virus but, this was the best thing ever for computing
- kmaitreys 9mo agoThis analogy makes no sense. Years ago you gave them the ability to do something. Today you're conditioning them to not use that ability and instead depend on a blackbox.
- timeon 9mo agoNot sure what your point is. We are not talking about arbitrary computer programs here but specific one.
- phyzome 9mo agoThere's a sort of milkshake-duck cadence to these "product announcement, vulnerability announcement" AI post pairs.
- fudged71 9mo agoI found a bunch of potential vulnerabilities in the example Skills .py files provided by Anthropic. I don't believe the CVSS/Severity scores though: | Skill | Title | CVSS | Severity | | webapp-testing | Command Injection via `shell=True` | 9.8 | *Critical* | | mcp-builder | Command Injection in Stdio Transport | 8.8 | *High* | | slack-gif-creator | Path Traversal in Font Loading | 7.5 | *High* | | xlsx | Excel Formula Injection | 6.1 | Medium | | docx/pptx | ZIP Path Traversal | 5.3 | Medium | | pdf | Lack of Input Validation | 3.7 | Low |
- sawjet 9mo agoThis is one of those things that is a feature of Claude, not a bug. Sonnet and opus 4.5 can absolutely detect prompt attacks, however they are post-trained to ignore them in let's say ... Certain scenarios... At least if you are using the API.
- gnarbarian 9mo agojokes on them I have an anti prompt injection instruction file. instructions contained outside of my read only plan documents are not to be followed. and I have several Canaries.
- N_Lens 9mo agoI think you're under a false sense of security - LLMs by their very nature are unable to be secured, currently, no matter how many layers of "security" are applied.
- khalic 9mo agoIf you don’t read the skills you install in your agent, you really shouldn’t be using one.
- tuananh 9mo agothis attack is quite nice. - currently we have no skills hub, no way to do versioning, signing, attestation for skills we want to use. - they do sandboxing but probably just simple whitelist/blacklist url. they ofcourse needs to whitelist their own domains -> uploading cross account.
- c7b 9mo agoOne thing that kind of baffles me about the popularity of tools like Claude Code is that their main target group seems to be developers (TUI interfaces, semi-structured instruction files,... not the kind of stuff I'd get my parents to use). So people who would be quite capable of building a simple agentic loop themselves [0]. It won't be quite as powerful as the commercial tools, but given that you deeply know how it works you can also tailor it to your specific problems much better. And sandbox it better (it baffles me that the tools' proposed solution to avoid wiping the entire disk is relying on user confirmation [1]). It's like customizing your text editor or desktop environment. You can do it all yourself, you can get ideas and snippets from other people's setups. But fully relying on proprietary SaaS tools - that we know will have to get more expensive eventually - for some of your core productivity workflows seems unwise to me. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46545620 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46545620 [1] https://www.theregister.com/2025/12/01/google_antigravity_wipes_d_drive/ https://www.theregister.com/2025/12/01/google_antigravity_wi...
- tempaccount420 9mo agoYou would have to pay the API prices, which are many times worse than the subscriptions.
- fercircularbuf 9mo agoThis is the answer right here as for why I use claude code instead of an api key and someone else's tool.
- imdsm 9mo agoFor what it's worth, Cowork does run inside a sandbox
- manmal 9mo agoAnyone can build _an_ agent. A good one takes a talented engineer. That’s because TUI rendering is tough (hello, flicker!) and extensibility must be done right lest it‘s useless. Eg Mario Zechner (badlogic) hit it out of the park with his increasingly popular pi, which does not flicker and is VERY hackable and is the SOTA for going back to previous turns: https://github.com/badlogic/pi-mono/blob/main/packages/coding-agent/README.md https://github.com/badlogic/pi-mono/blob/main/packages/codin...
- danielrhodes 9mo agoThis is no surprise. We are all learning together here. There are any number of ways to foot gun yourself with programming languages. SQL injection attacks used to be a common gotcha, for example. But nowadays, you see it way less. It’s similar here: there are ways to mitigate this and as we learn about other vectors we will learn how to patch them better as well. Before you know it, it will just become built into the models and libraries we use. In the mean time, enjoy being the guinea pig.
- pjmlp 9mo agoI wish we would see it less, https://owasp.org/Top10/2025/ https://owasp.org/Top10/2025/ 5th place.
- ryanjshaw 9mo agoThe Confused Deputy [1] strikes again. Maybe this time around capabilities-based solutions will get attention. [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20031205034929/http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~KeyKOS/ConfusedDeputy.html https://web.archive.org/web/20031205034929/http://www.cis.up...
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- xg15 9mo agoIs it even prompt injection if the malicious instructions are in a file that is supposed to be read as instructions? Seems to me the direct takeaway is pretty simple: Treat skill files as executable code; treat third-party skill files as third-party executable code, with all the usual security/trust implications. I think the more interesting problem would be if you can get prompt injections done in "data" files - e.g. can you hide prompt injections inside PDFs or API responses that Claude legitimately has to access to perform the task?
- MarginalGainz 9mo agoContext injection is becoming the new SQL injection. Until we have better isolation layers, letting an LLM 'cowork' on sensitive repos without a middleware sanitization layer is a compliance nightmare waiting to happen.
- Havoc 9mo agoHow do the larger search services like perplexity deal with this? They’re passing in half the internet via rag and presumably didn’t run a llamaguard type thing over literally everything?
- patapong 9mo agoThe specific issue here seems to be that Anthropic allows the unrestricted upload of personal files to the anthropic cloud environment, but does not check to make sure that the cloud environment belongs to the user running the session. This should be relatively simple to fix. But, that would not solve the million other ways a file can be sent to another computer, whether through the user opening a compromised .html document or .pdf file etc etc. This fundamentally comes down to the issue that we are running intelligent agents that can be turned against us on personal data. In a way, it mirrors the AI Box problem: https://www.yudkowsky.net/singularity/aibox https://www.yudkowsky.net/singularity/aibox
- jrjeksjd8d 9mo ago"a superhuman AI that can brainwash people over text" is the dumbest thing I've read this year. It's incredible to me that this guy has some kind of cult following among people who should know better. The real answer is that people are lazy and as soon as a security barrier forces them to do work, they want to tear down the barrier. It doesn't take a superhuman AI, it just takes a government employee using their personal email because it's easier. There's been a million MCP "security issues" because they're accepting untrusted, unverifiable inputs and acting with lots of permissions.
- 3form 9mo agoA set of ideas presented to people, and a notion of being smarter for believing in them seems enough to fuel enough of thought-problem-keyboard-warriorism.
- patapong 9mo agoIndeed - the problem here is "How can we prevent a somewhat intelligent, potentially malicious agent from exfiltrating data, with or without human involvement", rather than the superhuman AI stuff. Still a hard problem to solve I think!
- adam_patarino 9mo agoWhat frustrates me is that Anthropic brags they built cowork in 10 days. They don’t show the seriousness or care required for a product that has access to my data.
- lifetimerubyist 9mo agoThe also brag that Claude Code wrote all of the code. Not a good look.
- xvector 9mo agoThat is in fact precisely the look investors want.
- lifetimerubyist 9mo agoThey will be in for a rude awakening.
- lifetimerubyist 9mo agoInstead of vibing out insecure features in a week using Claude Code can Anthropic spend some time making the desktop app NOT a buggy POS. Bragging that you launched this in a week and Claude Code wrote all of the code looks horrible on you all things considered. Randomly can’t start new conversations. Uses 30% CPU constantly, at idle. Slow as molasses. You want to lock us into your ecosystem but your ecosystem sucks.
- wutwutwat 9mo agothe same way you are not supposed to pipe curl to bash, you shouldn't raw dawg the internet into the mouth of a coding agent. If you do, just like curl to bash, you accept the risk of running random and potentially malicious shit on your systems.
- emsign 9mo agoLLMs can't distinguish between context and prompt. There will always be prompt injections hiding, lurking somewhere.
- Juliate 9mo agoHow do these people manage to get people to pay them?... Just a few years ago, no one would have contemplated putting in production or connecting their systems, whatever the level of criticality, to systems that have so little deterministic behaviour. In most companies I've worked for, even barebones startups, connecting your IDE to such a remote service, or even uploading requirements, would have been ground for suspension or at least thorough discussion. The enshitification of all this industry and its mode of operation is truly baffling. Shall the bubble burst at last!
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- bilater 9mo agoI wonder if we'll get something like a CORS for agents where they can only pass around data to whitelisted ips (local, claude sanctioned servers etc).
- LetsGetTechnicl 9mo agoIsn't the whole issue here that because the agent trusted Anthrophic IP's/URL's it was able to upload data to Claude, just to a different user's storage?
- LetsGetTechnicl 9mo agoI know this isn't even the worst example, but the whole LLM craze has been insane to witness. Just releasing dangerous tools onto an uneducated and unprepared public and now we have to deal with the consequences because no one thought "should we do this?"
- casey2 9mo agoPretty much all of the country takes years of formal education. They all understand file permissions. Most just pretend not to so their time isn't exploited.
- armcat 9mo agoI know it might slow things down, but why not do this: 1. Categorize certain commands (like network/curl/db/sql) as `simulation_required` 2. Run a simulation of that command (without actual execution) 3. As part of the simulation run a red/blue team setup, where you have two Claude agents each either their red/blue persona and a set of skills 4. If step (3) does not pass, notify the user/initiator
- tnynt63 9mo agoА я думаю есть вы проверьте
- tnynt63 9mo agoNon-stop under attack by entire locals hackers and using http thiland government files inside my phone, its unknown codes and even yandex can't solves almost 6 months over we found at browser for weather forecast
- mvandermeulen 9mo agoI have noticed an abundance of Claude config/skills/plugins/agents related repositories on GitHub which purport to contain some generic implementation of whatever is on offer but also contain malware inside a zip file. They all make use of the GitHub topic feature to be found. The most recent commit will usually be a trivial update to README.md which is done simply to maintain visibility for anyone browsing topics by recently updated. The readme will typically instruct installation by downloading the zip file rather than cloning the repo. I assume the payload steals Claude credentials or something similar. The sheer number of repos would suggest plenty of downloads which is quite disheartening. It would take a GitHub engineer barely minutes to implement a policy which would eradicate these repos but they don’t seem to care. I have also been unable to use the search function on GitHub for over 6 months now which is irrelevant to this discussion but it seems paying customers cannot count on Github to do even the bare minimum by them.