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US to suspend immigrant visa processing for 75 nations, State Department says
- filldorns 9mo ago[flagged]
- xeornet 9mo agoGenuinely curious: what exactly did we see before? And what will the luck be needed for? A very vague comment.
- xeornet 9mo agoLoving the downvotes on a valid, reasonable question. I'm asking for specifics, isn't that what goes into a good comment here? Or maybe the downvotes are political.
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- windowpains 9mo agoI doubt the downvotes are political. This is hn after all.
- afavour 9mo agoI think you're getting downvotes because, particularly in the AI era, this is very easy to look up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924
- xeornet 9mo agoThank you, that helps to clarify. I think HN discussion should stand alone and not require research to find what someone is vaguely referring to, especially in an emotionally charged comment.
- Supermancho 9mo ago> I think HN discussion should stand alone and not require research I don't know what random reader knows and I will assume someone can look up context in good faith. It's not productive to conduct conversations any other way. If someone understands my comments, we can exchange ideas. If not, that's ok too.
- filldorns 9mo agoMy sweetie, Here you'll find some data about the context: War Tensions: It humiliated Japan by completely banning Asian immigrants, which fueled anti-American sentiment and helped pave the way for WWII. Blocking Refugees: The quotas were so strict that, during the 1930s, the U.S. denied entry to thousands of Jews trying to escape the Holocaust. Inspiration for Hitler: The law was based on eugenics (racial superiority). Hitler himself praised the act in his book, using it as a model for future Nazi racial laws. Family Separation: Because quotas for Southern and Eastern Europe were so low, immigrants already in the U.S. were often unable to bring their wives and children, tearing families apart for decades. The Birth of "Illegal Immigration": By making legal entry nearly impossible for many, it created the modern concept of the "undocumented immigrant" and led to the creation of the Border Patrol to manage those bypassed by the system. My sweetie, I'm from another country and I'm following this story from the outside. Believe me, the whole world thinks what the president of the United States is doing is wrong. >>>>Good Luck<<<< Too vague, or did you just not like that I mentioned your orange idol? Trump is the worst president I've seen in recent years. You should feel ashamed if you support someone who has inhumane attitudes.
- xeornet 9mo agoOkay. I am also not from the US nor do I live there. I am an immigrant in the country I live in. No need to be passive aggresive or assume political leanings. I have no horse in this race. Thank you for your contribution.
- ChrisArchitect 9mo agoEarlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46618809 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46618809
- barishnamazov 9mo agoHuh, actually checked first few pages before posting. I wonder why the thread got flagged.
- rbanffy 9mo agoIt’s bound to generate some heated discussion. A lot of people on that discussion asks the same question. There’s a lack of transparency on why some posts get flagged. A pause in processing of immigration visas affects the tech industry and is relevant to most of the audience who lives in the US.
- tracker1 9mo agoMy biggest issue with work visas is they're treated as an under-class that literally competes at upwards of half the pay or less and used to suppress wages. Especially in the past 5 years. I'd like to see a 100% tax on Visa workers combined with salary floors per work classification. A tech worker that needs to be imported from another country shouldn't be paid less than 6 figures IMO, and depending on the position upwards of twice that. The tax itself should specifically be used to fund grants for STEM undergrads and graduates. Just my own take on this, and I do have a personal stake and took a 40% pay cut last year just to be able to keep working.
- tracker1 9mo agoNot sure on the downvotes, I'm literally advocating for paying VISA workers MORE.
- nomel 9mo agoWould you say the new $100k fee for employers aligns with this [1]? [1] https://www.uscis.gov/newsroom/news-releases/dhs-changes-process-for-awarding-h-1b-work-visas-to-better-protect-american-workers https://www.uscis.gov/newsroom/news-releases/dhs-changes-pro...
- beanjuice 9mo agoDoes anyone have the list?
- barishnamazov 9mo agoNBC has posted the full list here: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/us-stop-issuing-visas-75-countries-rcna254039 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/us-sto... > A U.S. official confirmed the full list of countries will include Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Antigua and Barbuda, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Belarus, Belize, Bhutan, Bosnia, Brazil, Burma, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, Colombia, Cote d’Ivoire, Cuba, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Dominica, Egypt, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Fiji, Gambia, Georgia, Ghana, Grenada, Guatemala, Guinea, Haiti, Iran, Iraq, Jamaica, Jordan, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Kuwait, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Lebanon, Liberia, Libya, Macedonia, Moldova, Mongolia, Montenegro, Morocco, Nepal, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Pakistan, Republic of the Congo, Russia, Rwanda, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Syria, Tanzania, Thailand, Togo, Tunisia, Uganda, Uruguay, Uzbekistan and Yemen.
- JumpCrisscross 9mo agoWhat did Jordan, Azerbaijan, Macedonia or Uruguay do?
- unsupp0rted 9mo agoOverstay visas more often than South Koreans or Norwegians?
- AlotOfReading 9mo agoI pulled the latest overstay data from the CBP website (2024) and compared it to the list of countries. Some of the countries have high overstay rates (Haiti and Laos >24%), but others don't. Barbados (0.44%) has a lower overstay rate than France (0.48%). Libya (1.59%) has a lower rate than Portugal (1.68%). Some countries with high rates aren't on the list entirely, like Malawi (22.05%). Also, the hypothesis fails a chi square test. It's not that.
- tshaddox 9mo agoIt continues to be clear that the administration opposes legal immigration (except perhaps in narrow cases, like white South Africans).
- lovich 9mo agoThat was obvious ever since they claimed asylum seekers that had followed the legal asylum process were “illegal immigrants” and society and the media just went along with that phrasing despite it being factually incorrect.
- nomel 9mo agoI wish all comments in political threads required a reference for any claims made.
- lovich 9mo agoWell, when they claim that X million illegal immigrants entered the country despite them supposedly not being in the system and thus not countable, and the numbers line up with asylum seeker numbers, and they do things like cancel asylum seekers status[1] or releases criminals to go after asylum seekers[2] its hard not to come to that inference. [1]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-ice-asylum-cases-deportations/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-ice-asylum-cases-deportat... [2]https://www.cato.org/blog/trump-released-criminals-so-he-could-jail-asylum-seekers https://www.cato.org/blog/trump-released-criminals-so-he-cou...
- wasabi991011 9mo agoHere's a report on it with many examples: https://humanrightsfirst.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Stoking-Fear-and-Peddling-Lies.pdf https://humanrightsfirst.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Stok...
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- m4rtink 9mo agoAn interesting way to make make lots of friends in many countries around the world all at the same time.
- Krasnol 9mo agoThere is a German saying: "Ist der Ruf erst ruiniert lebt es sich ganz ungeniert" translates to: “Once your reputation is ruined, you can live completely uninhibited.”
- malshe 9mo agoThe presence of Brazil and Thailand on this list stumped me.
- MandieD 9mo agoThe one that I'm at a complete loss for is Uruguay - it is one of the wealthiest countries per capita in South America as well as the least corrupt and most egalitarian... not exactly a huge source of desperate immigrants. Did their government scold ours too harshly for the recent Venezuela shenanigans or something?
- malshe 9mo agoYeah, Uruguay is also surprising.
- ReflectedImage 9mo agoWell given that the US DHS is posting on social media that it intends to get rid of all 100 million non-white Americans. What exactly did you expect?
- ajoseps 9mo agowhat post are you referring to?
- ReflectedImage 9mo agoinstagram @dhsgov DS8Tx3XCRLQ
- tmountain 9mo agohttps://imgur.com/a/VmiOuHw https://imgur.com/a/VmiOuHw
- chaostheory 9mo agoIt looks like we’re trying to beat Japan, China, South Korea, Italy and Germany in who can age and shrink their population the fastest. We used to be great shape in regards to the age depopulation bomb.
- nothrowaways 9mo agoI'm glad India is not yet included
- ryanmarsh 9mo ago[flagged]
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- paxys 9mo agoWell yeah Trump's big tech friends need cheap H-1B labor.
- petcat 9mo agoI don't think tech companies need H-1Bs anymore. From my experience they just set up a subsidiary in India and move all their dev teams there.
- paxys 9mo agoCompanies have been trying that since the 90s, yet the quality of work done by offshore teams is consistently crap. Better to import the entire team to the US, pay them below average wages, make them work 80 hour weeks under the watchful eye of a manager and threaten to fire them (which means deportation) if they dare to complain.
- petcat 9mo ago> the quality of work done by offshore teams is consistently crap This isn't nearly true anymore, and hasn't been for a long time. Especially since everyone is using the same AI tooling as everyone else now. What is true (in my experience) is that they do tend to lack a sense of ownership and craft. But I think companies care less and less about that all the time.
- forinti 9mo agoUruguay is on the list. I remember when Uruguayans didn't even need a visa to visit the US.
- IIAOPSW 9mo agoWell then technically the US wasn't processing their visa's back then either.
- Hnrobert42 9mo agoThis is about immigrant visas. Visits are non-immigrant visas.
- laluser 9mo agoIt's such a small country and an even smaller amount are coming to the U.S. that this would have no material impact. Strange to see them there, but not Argentina (in much worse financial situation).
- sillystuff 9mo agoApparently Uruguay is LGBT friendly, and a destination for some Americans fleeing the Trump/Republican regime (LGBT and straight). I'd imagine either of those things would annoy Dear Leader.
- sp4cec0wb0y 9mo agoThis is stupid and weakens the U.S. We have benefited so much from the visa program over the history of this country. If the smartest people of Russia and various other countries want to flee and join the U.S., we would be at an advantage.
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- 2muchcoffeeman 9mo agoIs there a list of all the infractions that might have put a country on this list?
- tmountain 9mo agoYou are assuming this was a logical process.
- muzani 9mo agoProbably an unpopular opinion, but I think it's fair. AI has hit skilled labor/professionals pretty hard and it buys time to give jobs to the locals who were affected by layoffs.