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Brown/MIT shooting suspect found dead, officials say

• Glant 11mo ago
  I live in the area. Crazy how many helicopters and drones showed up so quick and how many police there were. For several hours more and more police and FBI vehicles kept arriving. Probably ended up with close to 100 officers on scene. Salem NH PD, Methuen MA PD, Providence RI PD, NH state police, MA state police, FBI, and US Marshal service were the ones I saw. I think it's the biggest response I've personally seen since the Boston Marathon Bombing.
  • sans_souse 11mo ago
    Same perspective here just 15 miles northwest of scene. Pretty sure they confirmed officially presence of MA NH LEO, NHSP, MASP, FBI, CIA, ATF, and Secret Service.
  • websiteapi 11mo ago
    all of that and they basically just got lucky. the guy walked to brown from his car parked nearby and shot up some kids, waited days, went to a guy's house in Massachusetts, killed him and never even got caught - he committed suicide and was only found days after his second killing if anything this whole saga makes me happy smart people aren't killers more often because this guy basically got away...
    • dustincoates 11mo ago
      Being smart doesn't guarantee you'll get away with murder: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_and_Loeb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_and_Loeb
      • c22 11mo ago
        Actually being smart guarantees you won't have to.
      • pixl97 11mo ago
        Na, if you're smart you just start a company and have it kill people via industrial accident, then it's just a fine.
      • card_zero 11mo ago
        Sometimes criminology students kill people, apparently as research: Bryan Kohberger, Nasen Saadi.
    • nervousvarun 11mo ago
      I keep seeing this sort of sentiment everywhere and I'm trying to understand it. The same thing happened after Charlie Kirk was killed and the arrest there hinged on a confession by the killer to his dad. A lot of commentary then that the police/FBI got lucky. Ditto Mangione. They got lucky he was found in a random McDonalds. What exactly is the expectation here? Is there some sort of wide-spread belief that the world works like an episode of Law and Order and every crime is instantly solved by rolling up your sleeves and doing good old fashioned detective work? Would assume for the majority of planned murder to be resolved as quickly as these highly publicized cases have been (the Kirk deal took about 2 days also) there's going to have to be an element of luck. Piecing together digital/forensic evidence is going to require time and effort. If it's not an obvious connection (domestic violence etc.) and there's no direct witnesses it seems logical you only have a few outcomes: A) Going to be solved due to a lucky break B) Going to be solved after a ton of time/interviews/piecing together forensic evidence C) Not be solved. Also he only "got away" because he killed himself. They likely would have caught him fairly soon after this because they had his identity from the car tags. I guess the point is though luck is all you have if it's solved this quickly because it's so random.
      • agoodusername63 11mo ago
        I believe the theory that Mangione even wanted to be caught and arrested because he didn't see a viable life for himself anymore with his spinal problems and medical bills. Who social engineers their way into getting a CEO's itinerary and then keeps a manifesto on their person well after the crime Now he doesn't have to worry about paying for that. Or getting reasonable treatment but hey,
        • firesteelrain 11mo ago
          He became radicalized over time and even wrote that his pain was improved. Somewhere along the way he read something or got it into his head that he had to murder the United Healthcare CEO where he never was a customer. It was just one if not the largest healthcare insurance company.
    • bagels 11mo ago
      But they found him? If he was alive, he probably would have been caught eventually, no?
      • websiteapi 11mo ago
        I mean I guess all criminals die or are caught, yes.
      • SoftTalker 11mo ago
        Maybe. The average homicide clearance rate in the US is only around 60%. But that includes a lot of killings where nobody really cares about anyone involved. This was a much higher profile crime so it would get a lot more attention. But there are high profile cases that get a lot of (at least local) attention that don't ever get solved either.
        • seanmcdirmid 11mo ago
          It is really difficult to ascertain motive and suspects when it’s a chronic homeless case getting murdered. It could be a thing from drugs to just looking at a crazy guy wrong one night, you literally have no leads unless there is a video or some other piece of hard evidence. It isn’t really about caring, judt that the environment they live in is so chaotic and uncontrolled that you’d have a suspect pool that is too big to reasonably investigate.
        • bagels 11mo ago
          Sorry, to make my point more clear: They knew the identity of the killer, and this is part of how they found his dead body. If he hadn't killed himself, they would have found him regardless, since they knew who he was, and knew the license plate of the car he was driving.
    • WillPostForFood 11mo ago
      "this guy basically got away" Titanic basically sailed safely across the Atlantic, except for a bit of bad luck.
      • WalterBright 11mo ago
        The Titanic disaster was a confluence of many instances of bad luck. Including the idea that if the lookout had noticed the berg a few seconds later, it wouldn't have sunk. (Because then it would have hit the berg head on, crushing the front, but not ripping most of the side open.)
    • tayo42 11mo ago
      50% of murders are unsolved
  • dantillberg 11mo ago
    Every agency has to show how relevant they are.
    • lawlessone 11mo ago
      Like the song 99 red balloons: >Everyone's a superhero >Everyone's a "Captain Kirk"
• cafard 11mo ago
  My apologies to the guy who first proposed that the shootings were related--I thought that was a real stretch.
  • binary132 11mo ago
    yeah, very surprising
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  • SoftTalker 11mo ago
    It was a stretch, but that didn't mean it wasn't possible.
  • energy123 11mo ago
    Unless there was a reason to believe they were related, I wouldn't apologize to a broken clock.
    • notKilgoreTrout 11mo ago
      The arguments against seemed to show the weakness of frequentists in practical deduction.. It certainly could have been a domestic where the police already knew but weren't communicating it but otherwise most suggestions didn't match the statistics of the specific demographic/locations to compete with the anomaly of a total AWOL with good luck, nothing to lose and a connection to top academia who wasn't dead or in jail.
    • ndarray 11mo ago
      There are two types of broken clocks. One is always suspicious, the other thinks nothing ever happens. One is more often right than the other, but both are equally broken.
      • energy123 11mo ago
        There's a world of difference between "nothing happens with 100% probability" and "nothing happens with 98% probability", even though they can look like the same thing when talking casually.
• websiteapi 11mo ago
  sadly flock ended up being helpful here (according to the police per the article). also interesting that it was some random homeless guy who happened to be there that blew the whole thing wide open. despite all of the surveillance...
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  • blast 11mo ago
    > some random homeless guy Was he homeless? I haven't seen that mentioned in the articles.
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    • WhyOhWhyQ 11mo ago
      New York Post states it in a YouTube video titled 'All About Brown, MIT Shooting Suspect Claudio Neves Valente – who BARKED During Massacre'.
    • ayhanfuat 11mo ago
      https://www.foxnews.com/video/6386706790112 https://www.foxnews.com/video/6386706790112
  • tapoxi 11mo ago
    Was it helpful? The man committed two shootings and they caught him after he committed suicide. It didn't prevent a crime.
    • websiteapi 11mo ago
      It connected the two incidents per license plate readings per the article. Why do you think it wasn’t?
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• blast 11mo ago
  > John posted about the encounter on Reddit after the shooting Anyone have the Reddit link? (I wonder why the article doesn't include it)
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  • albroland 11mo ago
    https://www.reddit.com/r/providence/comments/1pnkwoq/comment/nu9c70a/?context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/providence/comments/1pnkwoq/comment...
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    • rationalist 11mo ago
      https://old.reddit.com/r/providence/comments/1pnkwoq/fbi_poster_released/nu9c70a/ https://old.reddit.com/r/providence/comments/1pnkwoq/fbi_pos...
    • caymanjim 11mo ago
      I feel sorry for this guy. His Reddit inbox is probably fucked, and he's absolutely going to get doxxed and hounded by news people, and I wouldn't be surprised if even worse things happened to him. Good on him for reporting what he saw. He also went to the police the next day and reported it directly. But now the media machine is going to make him regret he ever said anything, which is unfortunate.
      • armchairhacker 11mo ago
        He’s already public, but he can make a new Reddit account. > Now the media machine is going to make him regret he ever said anything We’ll see how it turns out, but I don’t see why even the internet mob would hate him. He probably can’t live in Brown’s basement anymore, but maybe with the reward money and recognition he can find a real place.
• Aliabid94 11mo ago
  Worth noting that a partner at Sequoia (Shaun Maguire) publicly accused the wrong guy of being the shooter. https://www.fastcompany.com/91463942/sequoia-shaun-maguire-brown-university-shooter-palestine https://www.fastcompany.com/91463942/sequoia-shaun-maguire-b...
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    • paulgb 11mo ago
      I'm mostly surprised that someone can so consistently and repeatedly demonstrate an inability to filter information he receives and still be trusted with LPs' money. It's another form of Gell-Mann amnesia.
      • fwip 11mo ago
        Rich guys are mainly incompetent. They'll tell you they're rich because of meritocracy, but I've found that too much money has the opposite effect. You end up surrounded by yes-men and can buy your way out of any failure, so your skills (if you ever had em) atrophy.
  • tptacek 11mo ago
    Graeme Wood (always a good read) on this: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2025/12/conspiracy-rumors-brown-shooter-lost-credibility/685346/ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2025/12/conspiracy-rumors-...
  • fwip 11mo ago
    > Maguire subsequently partially apologized for those comments in a video. “This tweet did not land the way I thought it would,” What an asshole. He could have gotten the kid killed, not to mention the damage to his social reputation. And he can't even manage a "sorry if you were offended" non-apology.
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• noname123 11mo ago
  I work on campus (very very close to the engineering building) and I previously lived near Brookline. So all of this hits home. But what got me was the tipster who blew wide open the case is reportedly a homeless Brown graduate who lived in the basement of the engineering building (a la South Korean film Parasite). It made me so sad but also not surprised, that building does have a single occupancy bathroom with showers; and no keycard access was needed in the evening until 7pm. So it made sense to me that he or she would've used that building for shelter and comfort. Also it didn't boggle my mind at all that a Brown grad (from the picture, the tipster looked like a artistic Brown student vs. the careerist type) would be homeless - given that I known many of my classmates who have a certain personality, brilliant but also idealistic/uncompromising that made them brittle unfortunately in a society that rewards conformity, settling and stability. I can't get over the fact that two Brown student whom presumably have fallen on the wayside of society have chosen two different paths, (1) the homeless guy who still perseveres even in the basement of Barrus & Holley for 15 years a la Parasite after 2010 graduation but still has the situational awareness and rises to the occasion to give the biggest tip to the Providence Police, (2) the other guy who harbors so much resentment over a course of 25 years to plan a trip from Florida to gun down innocent kids who are 18 and 19 and his classmate when they were 18 and 19 year old.
  • 10xDev 11mo ago
    But resentment over what? I haven't seen anything on this.
    • astura 11mo ago
      This whole post is filled with a ridiculous amount of unfounded assumptions.
    • sampo 11mo ago
      This article was helpful: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/19/us/mit-professor-shooting-suspect-portugal-lisbon-physics.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/19/us/mit-professor-shooting... https://archive.is/qypoz https://archive.is/qypoz
• lisbbb 11mo ago
  The thing that bothers me about the whole story, apart from the deaths of course, is that we live in a surveillance state. While I want major crimes to be resolved and there to be deterrents to future ones, I just don't know about turning the whole US into East Germany. It's not going to work out well for any of us. As you can see, it didn't help solve the crimes, either. It was witnesses who did all the heavy lifting here.
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  • vjvjvjvjghv 11mo ago
    Our surveillance state is mostly for commercial and political reasons. It doesn’t exist for crime fighting
  • kittikitti 11mo ago
    This is a good point and worth noting because we sacrifice so much for the supposed benefits.
  • lotsofpulp 11mo ago
    > As you can see, it didn't help solve the crimes, either. It was witnesses who did all the heavy lifting here. That is not the case. If there was more high quality footage with a clearer resolution and full coverage to the time the suspect went to the car, then it would have been trivial to locate them without a witness.
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  • TiredOfLife 11mo ago
    It's almost like the claim that you live in a surveillance state is hugely overblown.
  • 0ckpuppet 11mo ago
    surveillance is for citizens, not criminals
• MangoToupe 11mo ago
  You'd think the washington post would have figured out how to turn off ads on somber articles by now
  • weird-eye-issue 11mo ago
    Oh how naive you are...
    • weird-eye-issue 11mo ago
      Its amazing people are downvoting this These media companies love tragedies like this. It is what makes them the most money. Why would they disable ads on their most lucrative pages?
      • twixfel 11mo ago
        It's very silly to say they "love" them. It's unlikely anyone is happy this happened. They are a news company, they report news, and people are interested most of all in bad things that have happened.
        • weird-eye-issue 11mo ago
          No it's not silly. These companies would be at a tiny fraction of their current revenue if people didn't like reading bad news and especially terrible tragedies. How much do you think their page views spike when there is an active manhunt or major events that happen? From a business perspective: they love them.
  • j-bos 11mo ago
    Legacy media gets a pass from advertisers.
    • doctorwho42 11mo ago
      Legacy of bezos now.
• eduardogarza 11mo ago
  Obviously a lot of footage in investigations does not reach the public, during active ones or even after. But if you've followed these stories it seems liket between the Brown shooting and the Kirk/Utah shooting, there is a potential concern with universities not having security footage in certain areas of their campus? Has anyone else inquired more into this?
  • mhb 11mo ago
    I'm sure Flock's sales team has made inquiries.
    • y-curious 11mo ago
      That’s funny, picturing their sales team smirking and rubbing their hands mischievously at every publicized manhunt
  • xrd 11mo ago
    Well, Candace Owens and Valhalla VFT are talking about exactly those things and the MSM is saying their concerns are baseless. I can't believe I actually watched Candace Owens discuss some of this stuff, I shudder to write that.
    • pppppiiiiiuuuuu 11mo ago
      Owens is unhinged. She's also claiming the French government are trying to have her killed because she's claiming their first lady is secretly transgender. It's not just the "MSM" who are pointing out she has no credibility, it's also people like Ben Shapiro from her same corner of the media.
  • bdangubic 11mo ago
    exactly what we need, more cameras everywhere
    • crubier 11mo ago
      I mean, yes? The cameras do help solve a ton of crime. The real issue is using them for surveillance without a cause, and that imo this is what should be under scrutiny. But trying to fight cameras existing in general is a lost cause imo
• elif 11mo ago
  Another shooting with random or unclear motives, which conveniently fits an anti-immigrant narrative, also conveniently tied up with a bow... Don't get too caught up in the specifics of the spectacle, and take a long view of really weird coincidence.
  • eBombzor 11mo ago
    Is there really much of an anti-immigrant narrative here?
    • astura 11mo ago
      The killer was an immigrant (from Portugal).
    • pavon 11mo ago
      The Trump administration has suspended the green card lottery program, using this murder as an excuse.
      • noobermin 11mo ago
        They are taking advantage of a situation. You'd think a false flag would definitely have someone who could be construed to not be a white immigrant.
        • krapp 11mo ago
          I don't think it's a false flag but the online right has already decided the shooter isn't white. If anyone has ever been confused by the concept of race being a cultural construct, here is an object lesson.
    • vkou 11mo ago
      Any crime by an immigrant or by a non-immigrant can be twisted into an anti-immigrant narrative by Trump. And this one has been.
• Myrmornis 11mo ago
  “This is a very advanced technology, and whatever nation masters it first is going to have an incredible advantage,” Loureiro says. https://energy.mit.edu/news/funding-the-fusion-revolution/ https://energy.mit.edu/news/funding-the-fusion-revolution/
• ewild 11mo ago
  i was at the cvs right next to the extra storage when the helicopters showed up and all the police it was kinda nuts to be so close to an event like this.
• Tripping5292 11mo ago
  What was the motive? The targets seemed unique. One the VP of the Republican student club and the other a prominent Jewish physicist.
  • typs 11mo ago
    It’s unlikely the students at Brown killed were targeted. He opened fire on a room of students at a review session, shooting 11 people. It seems very possible that this was an act of violence out of resentment towards Brown, where he dropped out a graduate program over 20 years ago. He would’ve had most of his classes and spent most of his time in the building where he carried out the shooting. He appears to have attended the same undergraduate program in Portugal as the MIT professor. Therefor it seems possible that these shootings were carried out of personal resentment, though only he knew for certain.
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• noobermin 11mo ago
  I hate to bring this up, but the conspiracy theories around this are nuts and I'm honestly quite bothered and annoyed by it. While the death is an absolute tragedy, the idea that the CIA killed him because fusion is around the corner and I suppose Loreiro was to usher in the next age of limitless electricity is quite ridiculous. I will say that there is a non-zero overlap of people pushing this insanity and the posters here, given what I've seen elsewhere on the internet, and I will kindly ask that you stop.
• fithisux 11mo ago
  It does not make sense why kill Loureiro. Sorry, but it seems very brittle as a story.
  • doctorwho42 11mo ago
    The answer is, no one can know for sure. The most probably answer from the facts we have is quite simple and human... Jealousy. They both were classmates in the same overseas undergrad program, Nuno was a well established and accomplished professor in one of the preeminent tech schools in the world. While he flunked out of his program, and hasn't done much of note.
• Zopieux 11mo ago
  >ctrl-f "gun control" >0 results Never change, HN.
  • oceansky 11mo ago
    Instead, there are people arguing for increased surveillance. Which even if implemented "correctly" would not prevent crime. Might be used to track women seeking abortions though.
  • Geonode 11mo ago
    How did banning drugs work out? Alcohol?
    • jajuuka 11mo ago
      These things are not equal. Weed doesn't kill tens of bystanders in an area a second. We can actually look at places that have banned guns and it's done amazing. The reason to not do this are extremely thin at best.
• jmyeet 11mo ago
  There are going to be many, many questions about this because a lot of it doesn't make sense and doesn't fit any profile. School shootings in particular and mass shootings in general tend to follow a particular pattern. Usually the shooter has no intention of escaping or otherwise leaving the scene. Usually they are killed at the scene either by the police or by their own hand. Some do escape but it's rare. So this shooter allegedly escaped the scene and then a couple of days later went on to kill one particular researcher at a different college 50 miles away in what looks like it was targeted and planned. These are two very different crimes. And then the shooter commits suicide? If the MIT researcher was a target, why commit a mass shooting prior? If the mass shooting was the goal, how do we explain the planning and intent of the second attack? And why wasn't that a mass shooting? Was it the same gun in both attacks? If so, why weren't the incidents linked sooner? If they were different guns, that too raises questions. In case it wasn't clear, the MIT attack was cased for at least 2 weeks prior.
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