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iPhone Typos? It's Not Just You – The iOS Keyboard Is Broken [video]

• cuteLittleOwl 11mo ago
  The best touch keyboard on a phone for me was always on the Blackberry Z10 phone. The phone UI is also one of the best I used. Unfortunately, Blackberry went to shit.
• izackp 11mo ago
  I literally just had a dream about this. Where I needed to urgently send a message, but I kept messing up the text. Weird. At least now, I know I'm not just fat fingering it.
  • DonHopkins 11mo ago
    I have a frequently reoccurring dream (nightmare scenario) that I'm somewhere unpleasant where I don't want to be, and need to leave right away, so I try to order an Uber on my iPhone, but the app is just so fucking hard to use and figure out, with all the important commands hidden so that the user interface is clean and sleek and beautiful and minimalistic without any visible scrollbars or labeled buttons or visual affordances, so much that I can't even use it, and I'm trapped in some horrible place in a nightmare I can't get away from, desperately fumbling with my iPhone. I think it's a manifestation with my pain and disgust with Alan Dye's vain cosmetic approach to user interface design. Now maybe my nightmares will shift to being trapped in the Facebook user interface, now that Alan Dye is at Meta. They totally deserve him, and I hope he destroys Facebook once and for all.
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    • kivimaki 11mo ago
      I have this exact same dream. Can’t type the correct address to save my life, and the app keeps “helpfully” steering me towards options I don’t want.
      • DonHopkins 11mo ago
        I have tried to set a "lucid dream recognition breakpoint" on my iPhone's user interface being impossible to use, but I keep hitting it in real life that I can't wake up from, and I keep getting terrorized by it in dreams without recognizing it. Sigh. The only way out of this insipid inception is for Apple to get their shit together and actually fix their UI, but that's never going to happen.
    • glitchc 11mo ago
      I have a similar dream: Every time I click anywhere on the Uber interface, it enrolls me into Uber One. Come to think of it, maybe that's not a dream...
  • noncoml 11mo ago
    Mine is not being able to dial the right number on a phone.
• DonHopkins 11mo ago
  Love the sick burn at the end: >Who knows? Maybe they're just trying to simulate the butterfly keyboard in software. Apple truly has some incredibly incompetent people working for it, obsessively focused on cosmetic style instead of substance and usability. Alan Dye voluntarily leaving certainly won't solve the root problem that they didn't fire him years ago. Bad Dye Job: https://daringfireball.net/2025/12/bad_dye_job https://daringfireball.net/2025/12/bad_dye_job Gruber: Apple employees ‘giddy’ about Alan Dye’s departure: https://9to5mac.com/2025/12/04/gruber-apple-employees-giddy-about-alan-dyes-departure/ https://9to5mac.com/2025/12/04/gruber-apple-employees-giddy-...
  • neilv 11mo ago
    This is far from specific to Apple. When I first saw your name, a few decades ago, it was because I was interested in HCI and human factors engineering. Today, my impression is that the field of HCI has mostly disappeared. Most people who might have been interested in HCI are now studying and practicing UX instead. In UX, the designer/engineer in practice is usually directed by the goals of the party who decides how the thing will work, rather than the goals of the party using the thing. There are some intellectual elements to UX practice (e.g., aesthetics, fashions, A/B testing, and dark patterns). But I wonder whether the transition from HCI to UX means that the field is not only perversely anti-user, but also losing the intellectual and/or institutional capacity to be user-oriented on occasions that they want to be?
• mcphage 11mo ago
  What.are.you.talking.about.the.iOS.keyboard.is.just.fine
  • altairprime 11mo ago
    Yeahxright, worksnfor me
  • rationalist 11mo ago
    Rhe Androidmkeyboard is jusr fine roo.
    • striking 11mo ago
      SwiftKey was actually good. I could pound out a solid 30WPM without even trying, no typos. But then they added a "Ask Bing" context menu item to all my selections after an update and after leaving it on principle I've been suffering ever since.
      • mackeye 11mo ago
        try thumb-key [0] if you're willing to go for something unorthodox :-) the swipe-style keyboard cut my typos by ~90% (though i was particularly bad at using phone keyboards, lol). [0]: https://github.com/dessalines/thumb-key https://github.com/dessalines/thumb-key
      • pzo 11mo ago
        Yeah also I thinkc they rewrote it in some crappy way because app got so bad and laggy and irresponsible that I had to remove it.
    • verall 11mo ago
      this is what all of my texts from my pixel look like but it's nice to hear it's no better for the apples. misery enjoys company :)
  • nixpulvis 11mo ago
    I remember when this first became an issue, then they tweaked something and I noticed it a lot less. Something changed again recently (last couple years) where this is happening a lot again. I appreciate how Apple pioneered the touchscreen mobile device, largely due to the implementation of the keyboard, but it needs to be more stable than this.
• gchokov 11mo ago
  Many things are broken on iOS. Apple, please get your shit together. - Random invisible touches and phone calls - BUggy Glass UI - Stupid battery management ..to say the least.
  • phantasmish 11mo ago
    I've seen soooo many rendering errors in Safari. And bugged-out keyboard + inputs (input touch location offset from its visible location on the page after the keyboard opens—a real problem if you're trying to paste). Never ever seen it 1/10 this buggy after any prior release, and I've been on iOS since... 5, I think? And did some development work on the platform as early as version 3 or 4. That's in addition to so many dropped frames in the animations that I disabled as many as I could because it was driving me crazy, and to a bunch of word-based buttons becoming confusing icons. I think this has topped 7 for my least-favorite iOS release, and the gap widens by the day. It's terrible. [EDIT] What it most reminds me of (I was on early Android and have done even more development work on Android over the years than I have for iOS) is Android. The jank, the pile of little confusing UI choices that all add up into an overall off-putting experience. The uncertainty what kind of bad thing might happen when you touch anything. Feels like an above-average 3rd party Android skin, like from Samsung or someone (so, pretty bad). The stuttering animations. No other iOS release has ever felt like Android to me.
    • RGamma 11mo ago
      Normally I tend to wait before each major release, but I got lured by unknown caller screening. Then I noticed there's no unknown caller screening for me (just a useless setting to move unknown callers to a different list). They also removed blocking numbers directly from the recents list and the new phone layout is a complete mess. For me it's been going downhill since the update that changed the settings app to show apps (even system ones) on a different page. Iwas seriosuly inpressed with the settings app when I first switched to Apple from Android, and now it's terrible. Meanwhile you still can't freely set the search wngkne for Safari, contacts always forgets my custom labels, camera doesn't allow free control over the flashlight,... P.S. Typos due to iOS26
• ksec 11mo ago
  Thank You. Keep being told that it was not the new iOS fault. Not only Alan Dye, Eddy Cue, Craig Federighi also need to go. Bring back Scot Forstall.
• dmm 11mo ago
  Is software just going to get worse from now on? Was the level of quality and feature improvement we've come to expect an artifact of high levels of investment based on expectations of growth that are no longer seen a valid?
  • nixpulvis 11mo ago
    We've built stacks so high we're afraid to jump off. Nobody is really competing because nobody can build a complete product. So there's less pressure to fix the little irritations. Users are mostly satisfied, and problems get worse slowly enough that for the average user they don't notice right away how bad it's getting. So they stay because it's too hard or completely impossible to leave.
    • anonymars 11mo ago
      I think the bigger issue is the update model. In the past, if a new version sucked, people wouldn't upgrade. Now with subscriptions / continuous delivery, there's less ability to vote with one's wallet/feet
      • nixpulvis 11mo ago
        That's related. If you're dependent on updating your OS for security fixes and basic compatibility, you are also forced to update the things you may not want to. It's all bundled together.
        • anonymars 11mo ago
          But it's not just the OS, but apps too, to say nothing of web SaaS products. How many times have you launched something only to find the UI had been redone, some feature was now gone or changed, something that worked was now broken, etc. But it's fine, you see, because we have telemetry and observability and robust CI/CD. Users and their work are nothing more than ephemeral numbers on a metrics dashboard
• browningstreet 11mo ago
  Another problem I'm having is.. with the latest iOS public betas, when you swipe down to bring up Siri search, it takes 2-4 seconds for the keyboard to show up. Every time. Went to an Apple store and they said, "re-install from scratch". Which isn't really easy these days, given work MFA accounts etc.
  • altairprime 11mo ago
    Did you file a beta report about the issue using Feedback Assistant? If not, include a screen recording.
    • browningstreet 11mo ago
      Yes, and I'll file again after the final production release. Neither of the RCs resolved it.
  • mikestew 11mo ago
    It’s a beta, Apple Store isn’t going to help. File a bug, as Apple is famous for their timely bug feedback and fixes (that would be a strongly sarcastic statement, for those that have not dealt with Radar).
    • browningstreet 11mo ago
      I'm aware of the beta trap.. and I'm waiting for the final release to come out to see what happens, but given that we're on the 2nd RC, I'm willing to bet all my money that the bug persists.
• proee 11mo ago
  If the UI registers the characters, but the system inputs something else, how is this even possible?
  • retired_account 11mo ago
    Apple's apathy and general disdain for paying customers.
• grsmvg 11mo ago
  I’m using a 12 mini and I’m running into so many typos since the new iOS. Maybe the combination of buggy software with their smallest screen is making it even worse.
  • or_am_i 11mo ago
    Wish it was only the keyboard enshittified. Literally everything became worse with the update, I had to google how to turn off the silly transparency (Accessibility Settings -> Display -> Reduce Transparency) so that the battery that used to happily last for the entire day on iOS 18 does not die in a matter of some 4 hours. And don't even get me started on now-always-lagging home screen swipes and the Safari overhaul madness! Wanna close the active tab? That will be three taps, thank you very much. Oh, you want them taps to register _every time_, too? This basic phone UX used to be Apple's major USP over Android, now fewer and fewer reasons to stick to this ecosystem.
    • grsmvg 11mo ago
      For the power users: you can swipe up from the bottom URL bar and then swipe from rtl on a thumbnail to close. That’s two actions instead of three. You can also swipe right or left on the URL bar to switch tabs. Alternatively hold the URL bar and press close.
  • apparent 11mo ago
    Is there anything in iOS 26 that makes it worth updating for an older iPhone? I am holding out for now, based on the bad reviews regarding battery impact.
    • n8cpdx 11mo ago
      Please, save yourself, stay away. It is a buggy, slow mess on a 16 Pro. I paid for 120hz but it can’t even hit 60 on the Home Screen :(
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• walterbell 11mo ago
  If OS developers lack QA processes and resources, can they offer usability bounties? LLM HUD displays can annotate ads, marketing copy and shopping carts with customer usability feedback.
• iamacyborg 11mo ago
  Well, I’m glad I’m not going crazy and the keyboard does actually suck since the glass update…
  • saurik 11mo ago
    The video actually says that he also can replicate the issue on iOS 18.
• celeritascelery 11mo ago
  I have had this conversation with several people. I feel like I used to be able to type with a fairly low error rate on a smaller screen with old iPhones. Now I feel that it is constant exercise in frustration as I will hit a letter and the keyboard will decide to pick the letter next to it. It is evolving backwards.
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  • jmkni 11mo ago
    I guess as iPhones have gotten bigger Apple has put less resources into optimising newer iOS versions for smaller phones Frustrating if you are a 13 mini user
    • eptcyka 11mo ago
      Even the larger ones suck for typing. It is the keyboard. It works a lot better if you are using a language they don’t have autocorrect for.
    • loloquwowndueo 11mo ago
      Dunno man, I’m on a 17 and there are a ton of context menus that were clearly not tested properly on a screen this size (6.1” or something) - the “delete” option is nowhere to be seen for example, you have to scroll down to find it. Guess they’ll want us to carry iPads in our pockets for these UIs to actually work :)
      • jerlam 11mo ago
        Regarding typing on the iPad - Apple has removed the landscape split keyboard on the iPad, making it even more awkward to use, but not on the iPad Mini. Perhaps they wanted to sell more Smart Keyboards.
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• a012 11mo ago
  I know because I hqte iPhone keyboard so much, and the calculator app. I wish there’s an alternative timeline where we still have Palm keyboard with big screen
  • ilogik 11mo ago
    SwiftKey PCalc you're welcome :)
  • Tier2Capital 11mo ago
    I love the Panecal app, can recommend if you can handle looking geeky while using it
  • conscion 11mo ago
    If you're OK with a ridiculously tall phone: https://www.clicks.tech/ https://www.clicks.tech/
    • n8cpdx 11mo ago
      Unfortunately it turns the iPhone into a lever that is always trying to launch itself from your hand. The iPhone part is much heavier than the keyboard part. And the ergonomics of the camera control become impossible (unless you have enormous salad fingers or something).
      • supportengineer 11mo ago
        What are "salad fingers"? Lettuce discuss it more.
        • n8cpdx 11mo ago
          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fMmlyLdpBXM https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fMmlyLdpBXM
  • Aachen 11mo ago
    There's no alternative calculators or keyboards on iOS? (I don't have an Apple device to check on so I genuinely don't know)
• ramity 11mo ago
  35m ago edit: Apple uses many predictive systems for typing. My sentiment in pointing out just slide to type might be misguided as it does not exist in a vacuum. I'd love to see these tests redone with slide to type disabled. I'm leaving the original comment below for reference. Slide to type. This "issue" is at most 6 years old for iOS users. Turn off slide to type if you do not use it. Slide to type does key resizing logic. This is the direct cause of this issue. Please upvote this comment for visibility. Please reply if you think I'm wrong. I see this get posted frequently enough I'm actually losing it. Please refer to https://youtu.be/hksVvXONrIo?si=XD7AKa8gTl85_rJ6&t=72 https://youtu.be/hksVvXONrIo?si=XD7AKa8gTl85_rJ6&t=72 (timestamp 1:12) to see that slide to type is enabled.
  • brookst 11mo ago
    Doesn’t.helpmme At.all
  • iamacyborg 11mo ago
    I have that feature off and I am making noticeably more typing errors since the glass update.
    • embedding-shape 11mo ago
      I'm on an iPhone 12 Mini and always thought this issue was because it's kind of old. But I've seen this issue for at least 3 major iOS generations now, and I'm currently on 26.X
      • iamacyborg 11mo ago
        13 mini here and it’s definitely just since the glass update for me.
  • koakuma-chan 11mo ago
    General -> Keyboard -> Slide to Type I don't have an issue with typing on iPhone, but I just disabled it to see what happens.
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• ChrisArchitect 11mo ago
  It's Not Just You https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DhksVvXONrIo&sort=byDate&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
  • walterbell 11mo ago
    This thread has more comments than all previous submissions combined.
    • ChrisArchitect 11mo ago
      Understood. Just highlighting the number of submissions of this thing for 2 months over and over with interest but little traction.
• baseballdork 11mo ago
  Switched from pixels to iphone in the last year or two and the keyboard is the biggest pain point by far. I tend to use swipe, so this particular issue isn't something I've come across. What I do run into is weird censorship issues where I'm trying to type "kill myself" or something similar and the phone will do anything to not provide that as an option. Then, when I try to manually change it, editing is a nightmare. Inevitably trying to change the ending of a word results in the entire word being deleted. It inserts spaces where I don't want them. Is this some sort of psyop to get me to use siri to send texts?
  • rconti 11mo ago
    I've never noticed the "censorship issue", but once it gets a word wrong once, it's game over. Editing is awful. If I'm trying to replace the word entirely, I inevitably do the "wrong thing" and fall victim to the editing again, or tap something wrong, or.. I don't know, but I either have an undiagnosed brain injury, or the "correct" thing to do to get the phone to just take the damn word you typed changes every day.
    • baseballdork 11mo ago
      > I've never noticed the "censorship issue" Really? If you swipe "kill" and then try "yourself" or "myself" does it ever get it right or provide it as one of the options? Doing it right now myself and I can't get it to do either. I have manually entered those words and hit the "myself" in the suggestion box to try and convince it that that's an acceptable correction to no avail. > I inevitably do the "wrong thing" and fall victim to the editing again, or tap something wrong, or.. I don't know Every. Time. I like to think that I'm not an idiot and can generally pattern recognize, but it just feels so inconsistent that I'm always doing the wrong thing.
      • markisus 11mo ago
        I’ve confirmed this on my iphone as well. Using swipe, no space bar after kill: Kill maps Jill myself Jill myself Using swipe, manually pressing space bar after kill: Kill mussels Kill mussels Kill mussels
• ZeroConcerns 11mo ago
  Well, possibly unrelated to all of this, but in my experience, multilingual spell-checking has gotten noticeably worse on both iOS and Windows, to the point where I had to disable auto-correct wherever that's possible (and that's, unfortunately, pretty far from everywhere!). This particular problem manifests as: you're conversing in one language (say, French) and then use a single English word, at which point the spell-check and auto-correct permanently switches to that language, mis-correcting pretty much everything from that point onward. (Classic) Outlook on Windows is pretty much entirely broken for me these days (even if I repeatedly mark the entire message as being in the majority language), as is Safari on MacOS: even in a completely-Dutch conversation, it always insists on auto-completing 'lang' ('long' but can also be 'tall') to 'language' and it's absolutely infuriating, and with no apparent way to disable the madness... (and, interestingly, no mechanism to detect that I dismissed the auto-complete for the 100th consecutive time, and that it's possibly not a desirable substitution)
• willwade 11mo ago
  that to me looks like a error in whatever logic is behind the positional error code. You'd think they would have transformer models based on different layouts but maybe some weighting issues going on.. ie I would have thought its a model that is altering based on likelihood weights and maybe something up with that..
• jasonjmcghee 11mo ago
  Highly recommend Gboard. I've been using it for years- much better at recognizing and more performant.
  • freeplay 11mo ago
    Also sends everything you type to Google. Depends on whether you care about that or not.
    • jasonjmcghee 11mo ago
      IIUC this is only true if you "Allow full access" From 3rd party keyboard agreement: > If you do not enable Full Access, developers are not permitted to collect and transmit the data you type. Any unauthorized collection or transmission of this data without your permission would be a violation of their developer agreement. Furthermore, there are also technical limitations in effect to prevent unauthorized access.
      • 0_-_0 11mo ago
        what do you lose if you don't give it "full access"?
        • jasonjmcghee 11mo ago
          gifs / stickers / search stuff
      • Aachen 11mo ago
        Wanted to read more about this. Source of the text seems to be a pop-up in iOS if I understand it correctly: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8519296?sortBy=rank https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8519296?sortBy=rank
    • tasuki 11mo ago
      I doubt it does. If it did, it'd have learned basic declensions of basic words in Czech and Polish, because I've corrected it a million times already.
• WhyOhWhyQ 11mo ago
  iPhone miscorrects apostrophes between "its" and "it's", and its driving me insane. sent from my iPhone
  • apparent 11mo ago
    ^sent from my iPhone, right?
    • WhyOhWhyQ 11mo ago
      Sorry I had to steal that part from you because it's too good!
• petercooper 11mo ago
  Another long running one is duplicateduplicate words: https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/mpo20r/iphone_will_occasionally_duplicateduplicate_words/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/mpo20r/iphone_will_occ... .. been happening for me for years and still does from time to time, but it's only once every few days so I just let it bebe.
  • crazygringo 11mo ago
    OMG yes. Pretty sure that bug has been around for something like a decade. Insane they haven't prioritized it, or I wonder if they hide behind the fact there doesn't seem to be any way to reliably reproduce it? Someone just has to look really hard at the code and find the bug. Surely the relevant code can't be that long?
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• PsylentKnight 11mo ago
  I haven't been getting notifications from any messaging apps for a few months. I've checked all the relevant settings (do not disturb etc.). I also get random keyboard issues such as this one. This is my first iPhone. I have no idea why I paid premium prices for a premium phone if they can't even get notifications and typing right
  • pjerem 11mo ago
    That's a really strange issue you have here. Never heard of anything like this. Could it be possible that some aggressive filtering exists on your network that would disallow your iphone to connect to Apple's push servers ?
    • PsylentKnight 11mo ago
      I get notifications from most applications, just not messaging apps (slack, telegram, whatsapp)
      • array_key_first 11mo ago
        It's definitely a setting issue, the problem is Apple has multiple settings which all interfere with notifications. My mom gets this problem a lot and it takes entirely to long to track down which setting is overriding what.
• herbturbo 11mo ago
  I assumed it was just me getting worse at typing but combined with aggressively wrong autocorrect and mysterious blue lines under everything I type they seem to have ruined yet another perfectly good UX.
  • Ensorceled 11mo ago
    Yeah, the blue lines under a random word in a perfectly correct sentence is such a waste of time ... did I mistype? Nope.
• farhanhubble 11mo ago
  I have always used SwiftKey and Android. This year I switched to Apple because Android was being bloated by Samsung etc. I'm shocked by how horrible Apple keypad is. I also feel like the touch sensitivity of iphone is worse than Samsung phones. I installed SwiftKey on iPhone too but even it seems sluggish.
  • fragmede 11mo ago
    GBoard for me. Can't stand the Apple iOS keyboard for some reason.
    • neom 11mo ago
      +1 on GBoard - every time an app has that weird bug where it selects the native ios keyboard instead of GBoard it doesn't take long for me to notice, it's crazy how bad the Apple iOS keyboard is by comparison.
  • bpye 11mo ago
    I went the other way this year, from an iPhone to a Z Flip 7. It's generally been a pretty good experience - the bloat on Samsung devices seems significantly less bad than it used to be 7 or 8 years ago. I've stuck with Samsung's keyboard and it has mostly been fine, though it's less aggressive about adding punctuation for contractions etc.
  • nashashmi 11mo ago
    Long a swift key fan but ever since it got sold to MS, it has gone downhill. I have it on my iphone and I think the development on that has stopped. My favorite keyboard is just unusable. I went to apple keyboard and had to disable autocorrect because it would uncorrect it to the wrong word until five words down and decides which word makes more sense.
• zjp 11mo ago
  There's another issue that's much more infuriating IMO: - You're in the middle of writing a sentence. - The phone is trying to guess how that sentence will eventually be constructed. - It goes back 3 words and changes one to match its guess. - Its guess is @)%(*%@ WRONG
  • crazygringo 11mo ago
    Seriously. Drives me up the wall. Once I've written a word and seen it, I've confirmed that's the word I want. If it wasn't, I would have changed it then. I don't ever want it to "correct" a previous word based on a new one. Ever. Yet still, more than a decade later, there's no way to turn this off. And it takes so long to keep backspacing to delete it, or move the cursor to make a surgical edit. The WORST.
• chatmasta 11mo ago
  The most infuriating “feature” of autocorrect is that it includes all your contact names in your dictionary, with no way to opt out of this aside from disabling autocorrect entirely. This can lead to some awkward texts when your innocent typo (or even correctly spelled technical term) turns into a mention of someone’s name who should not be in your phone… I wonder if this is related to the fact that every Apple app shows up as “recently accessing” contacts in App Privacy Report. And I don’t mean only photos (face recognition), but: Safari, Camera, Shortcuts, Mail, Health… why? I’ve never even configured a Mailbox. Why are these apps all accessing my Contacts?
  • crazygringo 11mo ago
    This drives me nuts because I put things like "(Alexander)" after someone's name to indicate who I met them through, who they're friends of, where I met them, etc. Then whenever I dictate "Alexander" it shows up as "(Alexander)" in parentheses. Drives me mad.
  • RGamma 11mo ago
    I'm astonished people on this site use autocorrect at all. IMO it's a mind-bogglingy insane antifeature, even more insane than that weird "replace arithmetic expressions with their result" thing Apple once did.
    • chatmasta 11mo ago
      I tried turning it off once, and the alternative was way worse.
      • RGamma 11mo ago
        It's worse because it keeps the text you intentionally entered? To be sure: I'm not talking about next word suggestions, only about it changing words after you already wrote them.
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• everdrive 11mo ago
  I actually keep a bluetooth keyboard when I'm at my desk but am forced to use my phone. I really, really dislike touchscreens and touchscreen typing, and it's baffling to me that so many people seem to like it. The bluetooth keyboard is actually a little Logitech K380, and it's quite convenient as I also have it paired with my work laptop and my steam deck. I just push the button to seamlessly swap between pairings.
• nothercastle 11mo ago
  Any one know why the iPhone will put a random v or similar letter in the text by itself? It’s a really annoying bug.
• oulipo2 11mo ago
  The most annoying to me is how close they put "enter" or "@" to space on the right side, so when you type with both hands you keep hitting those when you want to type a space
• Yizahi 11mo ago
  iPhone keyboard is probably one of the several biggest factors I consider when once again I think "hmm, maybe this time I should upgrade to iPhone?". And then I'm confronted with this, ummm... thing, and immediately remember why I ditched iPhones years ago :) . How do you deal with it daily? I'm at a loss really. PS: I've owned 3GS and 4S and a few iPads, so I'm not just baseless here.
  • Xiol 11mo ago
    Exactly the same here. I've considered switching from Android multiple times and the two things that always stop me are notifications and the keyboard. No long-press punctuation, no switch. I also can't trust Apple to let 3rd party keyboards work smoothly everywhere, so that's not really an option I'm willing to take the risk on. Doesn't solve the notifications either.
    • array_key_first 11mo ago
      I switched from iOS to Android and it's actually kind of insane how much higher quality a lot of parts of the OS are. I wasn't expecting this, I was expecting customization and the associated jank. But no, it's been pleasantly surprising. There's still some jank. Sometimes searching for something in setting takes upwards of 5 seconds. I can only assume it's downloading a bitcoin miner or something.
• rmccue 11mo ago
  There's a slightly different (I think) bug which I've been hitting since the update with URLs. The URL keyboard allows long-pressing on the . to open various TLDs, speeding how long it takes to write a URL. In prior versions, you could long press to open the choices, then letting go would insert the default (eg .com) With iOS 26, the touch target seems to be slightly different for triggering the options vs selecting them. I now frequently long-press, see the TLD choices with the default selected, and then releasing incorrectly inserts a single . instead of the TLD. This is infuriating when typing fast.
• armandososa 11mo ago
  I've been suffering from de quervain tenosynovitis for the last 6 months or so. I thought it was the cause I can't type anymore.
• Zhenya 11mo ago
  I have found myself doing a lot more voice typing lately. My biggest gripe is that when I say "want to" it replaces it with "wanna" unless I specifically enunciate "want to". "Wanna" is NOT a word in english but there is no way to exclude it. Frustrating.
  • RandallBrown 11mo ago
    I use voice typing for almost the same thing every day. I run to/from daycare to drop off my son and I title the run "Daycare drop-off". It constantly types "Take care drop-off" which drives me nuts. Those words don't even make sense together. A simple Markov chain should do better.
  • vel0city 11mo ago
    Wanna is in a number of notable and respected English dictionaries including the Oxford English Dictionary, Merriam-Webster, and Collins. I don't know what else defines if a word is or is not in the language.
    • Zhenya 11mo ago
      Its an informal word, and it does not belong in a device used for professional communications. "Wanna is used in written English to represent the words `want to' when they are pronounced informally. I wanna be married to you. Do you wanna be married to me? " Pronounced - not written. https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/wanna https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/wann...
      • vel0city 11mo ago
        > Its an informal word Ah, good then, great to see you've changed your mind and now we both agree it is most definitely a word commonly used in English for over a hundred years. Its incredible the dictionary pronounced it to you instead of showing it to you in a written form. When I go to the link I definitely see it written! I do agree with you that it is an unprofessional word and probably not the most charitable and professional dictation result. But in the end there's two different directions dictation software can go: what was more accurate to what the person actually said (or what it thinks the person actually said), or the more correct way of saying what was said. If someone was legitimately saying "wanna", should the dictation software always auto-correct it to "want to"? If you were to type "wanna", should the keyboard auto-correct to "want to"?
• Ensorceled 11mo ago
  Yeah, something happened a few months ago where by iOS I'm now "hitting" the wrong key a lot, words like we'll and we're are constantly being automatically "corrected" to well and were and, most frustrating, it will auto"correct" the last word in a sentence from what is on the screen when you hit send. It went from almost always helpful to often frustrating.
  • twoodfin 11mo ago
    My “favorite” version of the last issue is trying to acknowledge with “K” which inevitably becomes “I”.
• evereverever 11mo ago
  My son has an Apple Watch SE 3 and it doesn't feature the keyboard and you literally cannot type a lower case 'n'. The only hack was putting in a space and then it will sometimes do an n (or multiple characters). It's bonkers bad.
  • Aachen 11mo ago
    I don't understand. How can you press spacebar on a device you say doesn't feature a keyboard?
    • pfortuny 11mo ago
      The apple watch has a kind of small space for writing letters, and underneath, a long “space” key. The character recognition is somewhat not optimal.
• FriedPickles 11mo ago
  > The best thing we can do is just report it via the feedback app and wait for a bug fix iOS supports third party keyboards. Surely anybody this bothered by it should investigate those and pick a better option? There was an absolutely mind-blowing keyboard which supported multi-finger swiping called Nintype, but development on it has stopped.
  • mckn1ght 11mo ago
    Apple’s support for 3rd party keyboards is notoriously difficult to work with. It’s not surprising to me that we don’t see many high quality alternatives.
    • deepspace 11mo ago
      Working with 3rd party keyboards is still the same nightmare it was when the feature was introduced many years ago. For one, iOS will randomly switch you to a different keyboard. Or the keyboard will just crash.
  • Aachen 11mo ago
    What does it matter that development has stopped? I haven't updated my software keyboard in a decade because I'm simply happy with the way it works. Why not use Nintype if you like it?
    • FriedPickles 11mo ago
      Mostly I'm worried about bit rot, i.e. breaking changes in subsequent iOS updates. But your point is valid, I'll try Nintype again. It's extremely quirky and opinionated in an entertaining way.
    • arijanj 11mo ago
      At least on Android, Nintype has a few annoying bugs now and has gotten terribly slow. But it's an incredible idea and I wish it would get revived by someone - I still use it despite the bugs, but I need to switch over to Gboard sometimes.
• schainks 11mo ago
  THIS. I'm constantly sending typos in texts now even when typing slower on purpose. The software is clearly making choices for me that are wrong and I can't do anything about it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
• Havoc 11mo ago
  Also wth happened to the alarms page. Feels like they made the clickable area of the toggle 1/4 the size just to annoy me. Usually takes a couple tries to hit them when sleepy in morning
• m3kw9 11mo ago
  the iphone keyboard words prediction is the dumbest in this era of AI tech. It very consistently and focused on predicting the wrong word i'm after.
• Aachen 11mo ago
  Swiftkey on Android does this also and it's a very nice feature. I sometimes see a key lighting up that I didn't mean to press. I was just barely on that key, and it figured out that I didn't mean to press it Not sure how it works. Maybe it looks at touch surface area movements during the couple milliseconds that I'm pressing down for? Or dynamically adjusts hitboxes as this video says iOS does? Whatever the method, it works very well after like fifteen years of training (I copy the data folder between devices and never update it or let it access the internet, so I'm sure it's just me training it and not anything else, nor incompatible versions ever throwing data away) Note that this is different from the context-based autocorrect since that only triggers on spacebar or suggestion selection
• iJohnDoe 11mo ago
  I swear I have felt like I have dealt with this for the last few years on iPhone. So frustrating. It has forced me to use the the dictation feature.
  • swah 11mo ago
    Using raycast for dictation has been pretty great for me (longer sentences ofc). I wish apple would just acquire and integrate, with local models one day this will be crazy fast.
• skygazer 11mo ago
  I pranked a friend in college by tricking him into installing a “utility” on his Amiga 1200 that swapped adjacent keys into the key stream as he typed, but only above a certain speed. He called and woke me the next morning in a panic about losing the ability to type. He would type slowly and it would work fine. Then at normal speed and he’d get constant errors. He’d quickly pull his hands up to see what keys they were over. Did he have a brain tumor? How could he be a journalist if he couldn’t type! Did he need to change majors? Apple is unintentionally pranking the world.
  • skygazer 11mo ago
    Today he's an electrician.
    • masfuerte 11mo ago
      And delighted that he has a stable career that isn't threatened by the coming AI apocalypse.
  • nullderef 11mo ago
    Oh my god that’s insanely evil I would never want to leave my computer open within 300 meters of you
• languagehacker 11mo ago
  I've wondered for a while whether it's a dark pattern where they're trying to optimize for more text to speech in this post-literate world. The iOS keyboard "just not working" is something I gripe about pretty much every day as a symptom of the world getting quantifiably worse than even five if not ten years ago, alongside a whole laundry list of enshittification transgressions.
  • jerf 11mo ago
    I remember back in the late 90s that, if you ignored the matter of hardware driver quality (and that is a big "if", no question) that open source software tended to be higher quality in general than a lot of commercial software. Not because of any moral characteristic per se, but just the "many eyes make bugs shallow" sort of thing. Since it was mostly only programmers using open source anyhow, if someone hit an annoyance, statistically speaking, there was a good chance that someone who could fix the problem had hit the same annoyance. Then maybe in the 2010s commercial software at least caught up. But it seems to be swinging back around to, if I want my software to effing work I want to be seeking out open source again. Statistically speaking, fewer of the users who may encounter problems can fix any problems they find, as the systems have gotten much larger, but it is still possible, and on the compensating side, no one on the emacs team is figuring out how to stuff AI where it doesn't belong [1] or how to monetize it via ads or any of the other exciting ways to arbitrage long-term software quality against short-term money. It's an opinion, it is clearly highly path-dependent, and I won't deny this is just my impression... but it is something I've been noticing again lately. Especially as Windows seems to be heading down the catastrophe curve and this time I'm not sure they can stop it. [1]: I'm not anti-AI at this point... but there are places where it belongs, and there are places it just doesn't, and stuffing it where it does not belong is not a win.
• christkv 11mo ago
  My theory is that the keyboard team is composed of sadists that enjoy making us all ducking suffer.
• davidczech 11mo ago
  The key that is punched into the input field is based on where your finger lifted up. So if you have slide-to-type on, the pop-up paddle that showed up on key-down won't change to where your finger slid to for key-up. That's why when typing fast with slide-to-type on you can get confusing UI hints like this. It kind of seems like the grace period for the paddle hiding with slide-to-type needs adjustment. I just leave slide-to-type off.
• 0cf8612b2e1e 11mo ago
  It’s problems like this that make me wonder what high level leaders do anymore. Do they not use technology? Infinite tolerance for bugs? How is it someone with authority does not make it a mandate to file down some of these regular annoyances in everyday software.
  • lamontcg 11mo ago
    It is risk aversion in low level managers, and profit margins in high level managers, and since they're the market leader in the US and smartphones are pretty mature there's little risk of anyone jumping ship (go to android, start over, lose all your apps, get differently frustrating issues). They don't have a Steve Jobs anymore to sit down with the product, get frustrated beyond belief with it, and start sticking boots up asses on general principle. Nobody is going to step up to do that because all the other executives would hate them for it and knife them in the back, and it would be seen as a waste of effort. And nobody could ever tie fixing those bugs to making a financial number go up, and would argue instead that it was pure cost for no benefit.
  • array_key_first 11mo ago
    Everyone has gotten so used to software being extremely shitty and hostile that they just think this is how it is. People work around the jank sometimes hundreds of times a day and don't look at the big picture. I know at work I get work around windows taskbar jank at least a few dozens times a day. Granted, I can't do anything about it.
    • 0cf8612b2e1e 11mo ago
      That’s the thing, if you are in charge of Teams, YouTube, Spotify, the Windows taskbar, whatever - you have the power! Surely you must be encountering the same annoyances that enrage the rest of us. Why not tell the team to fix the things that bother you? Set the agenda and improve your own life! Instead, seemingly trivial bugs exist in huge software products for years. It somehow feels like the people in charge actively avoid dog fooding their own products.
• Aachen 11mo ago
  That learned helplessness at the 2-minute mark... Install a different program if you don't like this one. There are options beyond "submitting a bug report and hoping for the best". The video makes it sound like Apple is some kind of holy spirit to which you can only pray. If there's no good options, and you can't code, you can even get together and fund someone to fix an open source keyboard if it's bothersome enough. There's always more options, especially in software
  • parliament32 11mo ago
    Apple severely limits third-party keyboards, see https://old.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/1l2gg3r/thirdparty_ios_keyboards_sandboxed_gimped_and/ https://old.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/1l2gg3r/thirdparty_ios...
    • efilife 11mo ago
      "So the playing field isn’t just uneven — it’s tilted like a ski slope." This is a ChatGPT written post
• tbensky 11mo ago
  I have a lot of trouble texting, independent of the issues here. I'm just clumsy and can't seem to do it in any productive way. I'm working on this keyboard substitute with larger keys and split up keyboards: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/icantext/id6748927092 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/icantext/id6748927092. Give it a try if you want.
  • skygazer 11mo ago
    Why is the first row oversized and sliding back and forth with keys sliding off screen. Hitting letters on this moving row is like a carnival game. Is that intentional or a bug on my Pro Max phone?
    • tbensky 11mo ago
      Hi! Thanks for trying it. The "slow sway" is part of the plan! It's so the oversized first row of a qwerty keyboard can show all possible letters on the top row. If it feels too much like a game, slow it down using the main app from your home screen.
• evrimoztamur 11mo ago
  The issue is that when you press down, the key you pressed down on first is not the registered character, it's where you release your finger at. When you type fast and you slide your fingers around, it misregisters.
• rcarmo 11mo ago
  As a bilingual/trilingual user (I have English, Portuguese, Italian, Spanish, French and Chinese keyboards enabled, and use the first three on a daily basis), I have had surprisingly few issues with either swiping or pecking at the keyboard, perhaps because I automatically switch to pecking the instant I spot swiping going down the “wrong” decision tree. But I also think having this many keyboards enabled makes iOS basically throw up its tiny virtual hands in frustration and nullifies most fancy predictions. (This was mostly swiped in on an iPhone 15 Pro running iOS 26 with very minor hiccups)
• game_the0ry 11mo ago
  Wow, I thought I was the only one. I too can confirm that my typing has gotten more error prone since the ios 26 update. And liquid glass is still ugly and buggy. Apple has become enshitified.
• warunsl 11mo ago
  "You are using it wrong"™
• thinkling 11mo ago
  The #1 problem I have typing on my iPhone is that I hit letter keys (mostly 'n') instead of the space bar and the phone just doesn't anticipate this as a possible typo and doesn't offer the right corrections. (I have AutoCorrect off.) It doesn't seem able to learn that this is a common typo, either.
  • rezonant 11mo ago
    Interesting. Just tried this out on Pixel's gboard and it does seem to correct this sort of issue
  • ____tom____ 11mo ago
    Hah! I have exactly the opposite problem, I hit the space bar, instead of N, and the iPhone doesn't understand this a possible typo, so all the suggestions and auto-corrects are wrong.
• sshadmand 11mo ago
  Dude - crazy. When I saw this post I was like - finally someone said it. But it isn't just "iPhone". Why is spell check so bad EVERYWHERE..... still?. Like, how is it I am still even able to share texts, emails, etc that have mistakes at all? I feel like "spell check" is so old school. Intent, and matching intent, without typos is way over due. A bit meta: but, I am going to have to re-read this post - why? I still send texts that say "What re you doing?" - hwy?
• joecool1029 11mo ago
  I guess I'm in an extreme minority here but... it's not broken if autocorrect is off. I raw dog my typing everywhere. Zero autocorrect. The last time I did use typing assistance was on BB10 with the 'flick to complete' because it was out of my way enough that I could ignore it was there or use it to save a small amount of time. Otherwise I too have the fond memory of Windows Phone's keyboard (I ran it on the HTC HD2), I couldn't tell you why it was good other than it felt good to use, again without autocorrect. However, I'm CERTAIN there's an ergonomics thing at play, the 'brain calibration' time for me to type accurately on a big screen takes longer. I ran the original iPhone SE's as long as I could and always carried a second android device that was huge by comparison. Today I have the 15 Pro and a OnePlus 11. If I spend a lot of time using the iPhone it takes a little time maybe 20 minutes or so to stop making easy errors on the OnePlus 11. However, going back to the smaller iPhone after being on the OnePlus for awhile, there's not really an adjustment, I can hit all the letters accurately. I have large hands, I still want the smaller device. There is extra work to need to move your hand and eyes across a larger device. More space to misclick on. Swipe to type is enabled on android/ios for me. I use it sometimes, if you are hesitant at all on iOS or have a tendency to drag fingers at all don't enable it or it will mess up your typing. It's of course enabled by default like autocorrect. Some people have issues with it. Dictation is underrated on iOS at least. It just works better and faster than the shitty autocorrect for typing. Obviously not applicable to a lot of situations but when I don't feel like typing it works really well. EDIT: And I really have to have it off, I switch between devices too much and even with them learning my style of writing, I write differently for different contexts and each OS does its own thing differently. I don't want to spend the extra mental bandwidth correcting the autocorrect or having to think of how that specific autocorrect will behave.
  • garbagewoman 11mo ago
    Looks like your experience isn’t universal
  • SJMG 11mo ago
    Also in the minority. I use pretty atypical language and grammar for effect frequently, which is a nightmare to edit on iOS. I'm probably a little slower typing now for run of the mill message, but like you said dictation is actually great for that. I'm overall happy with the decision and would recommend others try it.
• zzo38computer 11mo ago
  Although I do not use it myself, I had seen that some other people do, and that apparently you cannot disable autocorrect while still having prediction enabled (at least, that is what they told me); I think it might be useful to enable prediction without autocorrect.
  • SirMaster 11mo ago
    What are you talking about? Auto-Correction and Predictive Text are 2 separate toggles in the keyboard settings. I have Auto-Correction enabled, and Predictive Text disabled. I can switch it around the other way too.
    • zzo38computer 11mo ago
      Maybe whoever told me that was wrong, or that was an older version that could not switch them separately, or I was confused and it is different for Android vs iPhone, etc.
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• nomel 11mo ago
  I think the Apple software UI team has cultural problem in adhering to "one source of truth", and that's where most of the problems come from. I've seen this many many times throughout the years, from toggles, to actions, account creation (I have dupes from tapping a button too fast), etc: the UI doesn't match the internal state. Another example is most any toggle that's linked to Apple cloud stuffs, like settings in your iCloud account or parental controls. You see it toggle immediately, but that's unrelated to the actual state. You can't know the actual state until you exit the page and go back. Meta gets this right with their apps: you toggle, the toggle turns disabled, then the toggle is re-enabled when the state is confirmed remote side.
  • torben-friis 11mo ago
    Part of apple’s language design is to not show failure whenever possible. It’s everywhere once you’re told. at most a loading icon remains loading or a setting resets itself when you don’t look, but those “there was an error -accept” popups that are a constant in windows are rarely seen this side of the fence. It tends to become stupid when the network is involved, where lack of coverage, interrupted downloads and the like are common. They have to show it just works I guess.
    • beeflet 11mo ago
      It is at odds with the unix standard for programs to succeed silently but fail loudly.
    • lurking_swe 11mo ago
      and you know what, that actually might be reasonable if the iPhone was smart enough to retry a few times - either with exponential backoff or when network connectivity is restored. instead, it just pretends everything is working great lol.
    • delifue 11mo ago
      It's probably KPI-driven. Devs are punished by any visible error. So dev hides errors.
• socalgal2 11mo ago
  I detest Apple's, and Google's, and Amazon's, and nearly every tech company's feedback system. Apple's is by far the worst. All feedback is private. There is no way to show or advertise support for feature. Like I want to go upvote the feedback from this video, but all I can do is file my own feedback, which is more work, and therefore more people will choose not to give any. Both Apple and Google and Microsoft have "users help users". These are infuriating as there is no official answer or help. There's just some fan with an often completely wrong or irrelevant answer. There is zero indication that any of these companies look here to see what's broken.
  • RankingMember 11mo ago
    You've reminded me of the hellscape of Microsoft's "help" forums filled with people asking specific questions and getting their question closed with a barely-relevant response followed by many others commenting, essentially, "me too! why won't anyone help us?"
• drooopy 11mo ago
  My english keyboard is broken but the two international keyboards that I have installed are borderline unusable. The keyboard situation has been atrocious for the past couple of versions of iOS but OS26 send it over the cliff.
• neuroelectron 11mo ago
  The best part about this is it's not your phone so there's no way to fix it
• dpsych 11mo ago
  I always end up pressing the `.` instead of enter when trying to search somethin on Safari.
• ____tom____ 11mo ago
  while I definitely agree the autocorrect has gotten worse, what I find more of a problem is all the various other pop-ups that occur. For example, they recently added the ability to 'undo' an autocorrect, but this pop up grabs focus, and you can't click on text near this pop up, because the pop up will claim the click. I've also had trouble getting rid of pop up menus (copy, etc). If I want to click on text, but it has decided to pop up a menu, it can be a real pain to get rid of it. (I had no problem on previous versions of IOS). There's a fundamental law of features: Every feature you add may may make it better for people who use it, but it makes it worse for everyone else. If you keep adding features, anything will eventually become unusable.
• deepspace 11mo ago
  After a recent update, my keyboard started typing "and" as "and's". This happens 100% consistently, but only when swiping. I don't understand how such a bug happens. Yes, 's' is next to 'd', but "and's" is not even a word.
• kbd 11mo ago
  I type in Dvorak and frequently the iOS keyboard's swipe typing bugs out and acts as if the layout is in QWERTY. I kind of don't believe it will ever be fixed...
• scotty79 11mo ago
  Does anyone know an Android keyboard that uses local LLM with all you typed ever before as a context?
• stanislavb 11mo ago
  WTF Apple. And, yes, I've been the same boat. Thank for pinpointing that this is not me but rather another genius Apple design.
• diziet 11mo ago
  I am surprised that there isn't a comprehensive test suite of (at least) virtual button presses replaying actual typed sentences for a product used by so many people that apple would run on a daily basis against each device.
• summerlight 11mo ago
  I just hope them to provide an option to get rid of all those predictive models and just use a static, consistent layout. At least I can blame myself if my typo is from my own mistake.
• pronouncedjerry 11mo ago
  all.my.google.searches.look.like.this
  • tensor 11mo ago
    omg yes same. No matter how much I try it still happens.
• koinedad 11mo ago
  This is a big issue and I’ve noticed I significant decline in my accuracy. Would love to hear a response to this from Apple with proper fix.
• jonplackett 11mo ago
  I’m so glad other people are having this problem too. The keyboard is just so bad now. The autocorrect does help sometimes. But it fucks things up that were previously fine just as much as it helps so overall it’s probably worse than it used to be. Now You need to constantly monitor every key pressed to make sure it hasn’t screed it up later.
• hinkley 11mo ago
  I literally cannot type "its" without iPhone putting an apostrophe into it every goddamned time, even when it's obvious from the beginning of the sentence that the next word must be a verb not a possessive pronoun. If I ever lose my marbles I know I'm going to accuse iOS of being in on it.
• dav43 11mo ago
  I have benn beating ths drum for yrs
• inetknght 11mo ago
  Touchscreens are an awful user interface. You'll never change my mind. I want an iPhone but without a touch screen. Give me a damn real physical keyboard.
• alfiedotwtf 11mo ago
  Maybe it’s just me, but it’s not just typing - I’ve found that after I type a message in iMessage, it takes SEVERAL pressed to acknowledge a send?! I don’t know wtf it thinks I’m doing because it doesn’t do any other action.
• tibbon 11mo ago
  This has been driving me up a wall. I was seriously considering if I had just gotten 'old' or something. I've had every iPhone since the first one, and suddenly I feel like I'm typing with mittens on.
• kouru225 11mo ago
  The first iterations of the apple keyboard were perfect. They literally did everything perfectly without any notes. Then it seems like they’re started teaching to the bottoms of the class and added a bunch of terrible decisions: Substituting touch to select instead of touch to move cursor was a genuinely awful decision that now makes typing a constant chore, and it seems like their autocorrect is overcompensating so hard that it prevents me from writing perfectly good words simply because they’re not common ones. Side note: anyone else have moments where you can’t press delete once predictive text has shown up?
  • wycy 11mo ago
    > Side note: anyone else have moments where you can’t press delete once predictive text has shown up? Chiming in just to say: yes
• al_borland 11mo ago
  I had an iPhone day 1 in 2007, and my typing on that day was better than it is today. Once they added the suggestion bar above the keyboard things got noticeably worse. Every time they try to fix it they make it even worse than before. With the current version, it’s not just the issue in the video I see as an issue. The two big problems I have are 1) repeated words, where I will type a word once, but auto-completion will inject another one. 2) The autocorrect will seemingly look at the whole paragraph I’m typing and change random words I typed several lines up and deemed correct. I will catch it doing this in real time, and sometimes it will flip a word back and forth repeatedly. I find I don’t just need to proofread while I’m typing, but also need to go through and re-read everything. It wasn’t always like this. Maybe it’s my rose colored glasses, but I often think the iPhone peaked with the 4S.
• yusufcengiz 11mo ago
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• dacox 11mo ago
  The iPhones autocorrect is one of my biggest frustrations coming from Android a few years ago. The biggest frustration for me is the tendency to correct the _second to last word_. I have never gotten used to this. I know i can stop it by "clicking" on the word instead of hitting space - but that feels slow and bad.
• burnt-resistor 11mo ago
  And it's possessed a random, multi-second lag ever since ~2012, even with spell check, replacements, and prediction turned off.
• rkunal 11mo ago
  Thank you!! How can one of the biggest tech company be blind to such a basic thing ? It enrages me whenever I type. Does no engineer at Apple use iOS or they never face this problem ?
• Razengan 11mo ago
  iOS and macOS have been broken in so many small death-by-a-thousand-cuts kind of ways that it's frustrating to even write a comment about how broken.
• jnaina 11mo ago
  My goodness. I honestly believed I was experiencing a decline in finger dexterity due to age, given the sudden increase in typing mistakes on my iPhone (I have been an iPhone user since the OG iPhone). Tim Apple really needs to let go the clowns who managed to regress the keyboard input functionality.
• thr0waway001 11mo ago
  We need someone like Steve Jobs to berate the engineers to make these products good again.
• neverkn0wsb357 11mo ago
  I’ve been complaining about the iOS Keyboard for years, and the people I’ve been complaining to would act like I’m insane. I suspect this last iteration broke it just enough for it to impact more people and make some of the problems I’ve been experiencing mainstream. But yeah things like deleting when I meant to space, putting an “I” instead of “K” and a bunch of other little things like “thinks” instead of “things”, unintended periods; complete failure of spelling just generating gibberish “x” instead of “c” leading to un-autocorrectable failures; and if you want to reference the name of something that doesn’t fit the grammatical structure of the sentence but isn’t a mainstream item, forget about it. Also “od” instead of “of”. Seeing this video is super validating. Emotionally, it does a lot to make me feel vindicated. Someone was telling me you can install 3P keyboards, does anyone have any recommendations?
  • dawnerd 11mo ago
    What gets me is if it autocorrects the wrong wrong the first time, I can deal with that. It's when I backspace, re-type it the exact same and it autocorrects again - that's a huge UX problem. Then there's the lack of autocorrect where it makes sense, like you're "od" example. I know they probably do need to do a little tap point correction, but whatever they did with this last version is way off. Maybe they're trying to determine viewing angle since that could affect the perceived place you're tapping?
  • basch 11mo ago
    not just the keyboard either, but the text editor box (or address bar /search) in general. i cant count the number of times i try and put the cursor before a word, i see it is before the word, i let go, and the cursor moves to the end of the word. if i wanted it at the end of the word i would have put it there before letting go. also, the damn period next to n in the address bar. no i didnt mean to type every word in a sentence with a period delimiting between words.
    • ashdksnndck 11mo ago
      If you long press on the space bar and drag left and right, it moves the cursor around. Obscure UX but useful.
• seabird 11mo ago
  Even if they fix the keyboard, iOS as a whole can't really be fixed. This is a single symptom of a much larger problem. So much is broken, poorly implemented, or so laughably tasteless that it hurts my head to think about how it's positioned and accepted as a "premium" product. I understand that most people notice so little about the design of their surroundings that it's basically impossible for them to understand that this junk is inflicting thousands of tiny psychological cuts daily, but it makes me so very very sad that this is acceptable to so many people. - As mentioned, keyboard input is offensively broken. Whiffed inputs, the entire text selection/cursor manipulation model sucks (not being able to select in the middle of a word is inexcusable unless you have Stockholm syndrome for the bandaids), the cursor manipulation is broken, keyboard gets stuck open or closed, etc. etc. I'm convinced the input design for this phone is a CIA psyop designed to drive you to madness so they can recruit you as a sleeper cell. - Passcode inputs are also broken. Trying to enter your passcode at easily achievable speeds results in dropped inputs. - Above point wouldn't be a big deal if it weren't for fingerprint scanning being given up for Face ID, which is complete dogshit that constantly fails-to-passcode trying and failing to scan my ceiling, or my face when it's against a pillow in the morning. It's also completely worthless when I'm unable to fully point my face at the phone (working on vehicles or in some other enclosed area) or am trying to use the phone completely off of muscle memory. - The gesture navigation system is a fundamentally bad idea. I'm an average-sized man and reaching over to the left hand side of the screen to make back inputs requires me to shift my fingers on the back of the phone just to make the reach for the input. This is on a base-model iPhone 16, which is already a touch too large for many hands to deal with this input system. The hitboxes for navigation inputs are too small and many of the inputs are often shared with actions in apps, resulting in taking all sorts of actions you didn't want to. Android style 3-button navigation at the bottom of the screen solved this many years ago. As an aside, the 60 FPS screen on an $800 phone as a "fuck you" push to upgrade to an even fatter pig of a phone that suffers even more from the bad navigation is funny. - The GPS is fucked up, at least on the iPhone 16. It takes forever to find its bearing, after which it usually holds onto it until losing its mind again at the most inconvenient time. The only phone I've seen with a worse GPS is a Unihertz Jelly. Being in the same league as a $150 niche night market special is shameful. - I have a frustrating number of calls get dropped. I don't know exactly where this issue comes from but it's noticeable, I run into it a couple times a week. My previous S24 on the same carrier never dropped calls under the same circumstances, so I know not having this issue is possible. - The flashlight implementation sucks. Being able to tap it off with screen input is incredibly frustrating when I'm fumbling around trying to do something in the dark. And of course, it turns the screen on so you can make this accidental input every time you turn the flashlight on with the assignable side button. Being able to adjust the brightness is something I've never found any use for and mostly just serves to annoy me when I accidentally turn it down with another unintended input, but maybe somebody somewhere gives a shit about this, I guess. - The split notification/settings menu is incredibly annoying. The settings menu is already a reach on the smallest mainline models, the notifications menu basically requires whole-hand movement. 20% of the space in the notifications menu is taken up by a fuckoff huge clock that you can't configure the size of. The lack of notification icons results in me having to actually unlock the phone and check things instead of just being able to know at a glance (I know they wanted to distance themselves from the roached Android notification tray look but I don't care). - Liquid Glass looks like shit. So does a lot of the rest of the phone but I don't really hold some moron designer's bad visual taste against a product unless it affects the usability of the product. And of course, it affects the usability of the product. I actually laughed out loud having a literally unreadable lockscreen clock after the iOS 26 update, with the factory-provided moon background to add a little more salt to the wound. It reads poorly and is tacky to boot. - This is pretty minor but the constant nags about iCloud are very funny. These assholes just couldn't resist hounding you for 99 cents more after you bought their $800 fuckup. It's like getting nagged about a Sirius XM subscription in a Lamborghini. Individual points may be taken care of, but the disease is terminal. The iPhone's success at this point is driven by network effects, marketing, and its posturing as a premium product. Grown adults have an emotional attachment to the brand and the lifestyle statement. Android vendors are aping this stuff now. The memories of quality software and the ability to recognize it is being actively erased from the collective memory. Hoping that any of this is going to change at this point is just pissing in the wind.
• albert_e 11mo ago
  I use android (samsung flagship) and have been struggling with accurate typing in recent months I havent found a root cause yet, tentatively chalked it up to advancing age. I may have inadvertently selected a different keyboard (Samsung vs Google ) or wrong layout/settings when switching to newer phone.
• Nevermark 11mo ago
  I get frustrated by how many real/normal words Apple's macOS and iOS typing dictionaries don't recognize and mark as misspellings.
• jeffro_rh 11mo ago
  The 3rd letter is the key here. If you are going to look up a possible word that a user is typing, iOS waits until the third letter typed to do the lookup. Too many possibilities before then. So at the third letter typed, in the video it displayed the U, but his finger was low on the button. It displayed, then did the lookup, and while it was doing that lookup the u was still displayed, but the input moved to J without the display being updated. Maybe the lookup being spawned on the background thread caused enough delay on the main thread to not update the highlighted key before the touchUp event fired?
  • garbagewoman 11mo ago
    What words begin with “thj”?
• porsager 11mo ago
  Shameless plug, but back in 2014 trying to play with swift I made Type Nine, and I'm still using it to this day[1] I also did a few other experiments that I unfortunately haven't had time to explore further[2] [1] https://www.typenineapp.com https://www.typenineapp.com [2] https://medium.com/porsager/a-better-iphone-typing-experience-77c6da52131 https://medium.com/porsager/a-better-iphone-typing-experienc...
  • dbmnt 11mo ago
    I just installed it and it seems really promising. Glad you shared it here. I’ve spent more time than I care to admit searching for a good keyboard app in the App Store, and I’ve tried a lot of them. This one never surfaced for me in any of my usual searches, which is a shame (likely more on Apple’s search than on you). I really like the T9-style approach, and I appreciate the clean App Privacy section and straightforward privacy policy.
    • porsager 11mo ago
      Thanks a lot! I haven't done much on the marketing side, but I always felt it had great potential. It needs a little tlc to align with the latest iOS update changes, but my time is too limited at the moment.
• captainregex 11mo ago
  oh dear god, tears of joy…they told me I was crazy. this is so validating
• Grisu_FTP 11mo ago
  Worst thing about iOS keyboard is that it corrects the last word when hitting send before even showing what it would change. When i hit send, i want to send the message that is on my screen, not the message iOS thinks i meant to send. (And that you cant just click into the middle of a word to edit one letter)
  • verytrivial 11mo ago
    I can't comprehend how that's even an issue. Like it's the sort of thing you might read in an old bug report online and go "wow, that must have been an awkward few days for everyone" but to hear that it is "normal"? Wild. Utterly unacceptable.
• efilife 11mo ago
  I'm gonna be that guy and say that this has never occured on Android. And if it did, I can install any keyboard I want and the issue would likely be gone (I use FUTO keyboard). Apple is ridiculously controlling and anti-hacking I still have no idea why hackers use it
• whateveracct 11mo ago
  My backtick muscle memory no longer worked after the update. Feels like someone just rewrote it.
• frabonacci 11mo ago
  Same here. I even blamed it on switching between Italian and Spanish all the time and thought my brain was short-circuiting. But when you see the right key light up and a different letter shows up, something’s clearly off. Also: with battery saver on it’s basically unusable - the lag makes typing way worse. The video was oddly comforting. Turns out I’m not losing it.
• ndr_ 11mo ago
  Is there a trustworthy third-party "Retro" keyboard app - none of the shenanigans that made the default keyboard bad, and also no typing exfiltration to third-party servers? I imagine the problem could be severe enough to some that they would pay the price of the Apple Developer program just so they may install such a Retro keyboard app from Github - if one exists?
• lylo 11mo ago
  The auto-capitalisation of Apple trademarked phrases like Liquid Glass and Apple Intelligence is what really drives me round the bend.
• anarticle 11mo ago
  I can't help but feel like some product manager is behind all this... Why would it go from what felt like a predictable error to what feels like someone moving the keys around? I am guessing someone presented aggregate research that showed higher accuracy overall, but ignored the case that the errors feel like the voices are getting louder :D. Hopefully they come up with a setting to change this, but knowing apple it probably won't happen. Is it time for custom keyboards to come back?
• lunatuna 11mo ago
  This is a feature to get you to stop typing and to just speak. I have a couple friends that are almost exclusively speech to text. One friend is ESL and just finds the brain work easier and the other just figured it worked better. Seeing this video has convinced me it’s a feature. I can’t see iOS development practices that shit and to read comments here about similar Android issues.
• montjoy 11mo ago
  I wish Apple would let you load different “dictionaries” for technical specialties so it wouldn’t try to autocorrect everything. For example, “IT”, “Automobile”, “Medical”, etc.
• sharts 11mo ago
  What’s funny is steve jobs saying actual keyboards on phines were dumb. Apparently they were not dumb. They were just reliable AF
• notShabu 11mo ago
  maybe what has happened is that the team needed some experts to measure improvements and tapped ppl with a career in optimizing for "User Engagement" so the more we fight the keyboard the more they cheer and grow the team
• kaushalvivek 11mo ago
  One-handed finger swiping to type doesn’t work as reliably as it used to either. I am not sure why. My recent experiment has been very disappointing. Mostly post upgrading to iOS 26? I’ve had to painfully change my behaviour to two-handed typing by default. My suspicion— they’ve changed the ML system that inferred words based on swipes, and the new one isn’t as good in real world use.
• sota_pop 11mo ago
  All commenters here missing the big picture/long game…. Apple just doing their part to poison the well for future LLM training data across the internet. With enough typos littered about the Internet, that’ll really grind foundation LLM trainers’ gears.
• l1feh4ck 11mo ago
  I switched to iPhone from android three years ago and it still frustrates me when I have to edit a word. Say I accidentally typed ebit instead of edit. In android it is as easy as clicking on the letter “b” and backspace then correct it to “d” In ios, I have to long press the space key to move around and or do some circus to edit it. I don’t understand why Apple does this.
• AbstractH24 11mo ago
  What is me though is neglecting to proofread before hitting send!
• simoncos 11mo ago
  I thought it was my own problem