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C100 Developer Terminal
- internetguy 10mo agotheir in-house Workbench distro seems really cool, looks super light and minimalistic. IMHO it's also priced reasonably enough.
- dkackman11 10mo agosure hope you can choose which side that ten key is on
- nsingh2 10mo agoThat's quite the long esc key. An ortholinear layout would be nice too.
- doug_durham 10mo ago"Get out of your way" is marketing speak to cover for missing applications. I've rarely seen such a blatant piece of marketing. "A computer for experts". Any computer with access to a terminal prompt is a computer for experts.
- stonogo 10mo agoIt's a Fedora spin.
- notnmeyer 10mo agoehhhh, i disagree partially. a less cynical take would be to call it “opinionated”. any computer can be for “experts”, but that’s not the same as delivering something preconfigured and opinionated. nobody has actually seen this thing in action yet, but in my head it’s hardware + some opinionated linux distro (i imagine something like omarchy) + support. certainly not what everybody would want, but if there are people that enjoy configuring their systems then there’s people that don’t.
- rickcarlino 10mo agoI’ll be really happy if this becomes a market segment. A commercial desktop specifically for technical users on Linux is great to see.
- overgard 10mo agoSystem76 exists
- mrgoldenbrown 10mo agoWhat specific technical thing about this makes it appealing? The marketing speak sounds nice but is there anything you're seeing here that you wouldn't get in a MacBook or Thinkpad equivalently priced? There is not much detail.
- rickcarlino 10mo agoI’m not endorsing the device. It might be mediocre, and the company might be too. What I like is the direction. Most of the criticism in this thread focuses on the marketing, but that’s actually the part I find interesting: it’s explicitly aimed at Linux-centric desktop users without pretending to be “just like Windows” or trying to hide the fact that it’s Linux. Plenty of people are frustrated with the current Windows ecosystem (Microsoft account login really bothers me for a lot of reasons). The market usually responds with one of two things: a Windows laptop you can convert into a Linux machine, or a Linux machine that tries very hard not to act like one. This is at least purporting to be neither (maybe they are full of shit, who knows). It’s trying to sell a finished, opinionated product for power users on Linux. Even if this particular device ends up turning into the next juicero/Rabbit R100, I’m glad to see someone treating that segment as worth designing for. So yeah computer vendors, go ahead and do this more I like the vibes here even if I have no intention on buying right now.
- wmf 10mo agoThe philosophy does sound good but the implementation appears to be skin deep. It's just not enough.
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- mapcars 10mo agoIts cringe to see something for enthusiasts cost 2k$ and have a keyboard layout from 100 years ago. I expect nothing less than ortholinear with thumb clusters
- keithnz 10mo agothe choices made on the keyboard layout seem weird to me, though I do like the left hand numpad. But the big esc? the Fn key up top right seems like it makes key chords with it kind of hard. No ins key? no prt scr? is that 3 ctrl keys? or is that a caps lock? arrow keys etc seem a bit far away from main keyboard...
- tom_ 10mo agoIncluding the keyboard seems a strange choice, especially when it's an oddity such as this one. Surely it'd be cheaper to add an extra USB port and have the buyer supply their own? I mouse left-handed, so a left hand numpad makes it an instant no from me - but even if you don't care what I think (which you shouldn't), there's so many other oddities in the layout as well! Where's PrtSc? Why is the Esc key so gigantic? Why is F7 not in its normal place? And, wait a moment - what is £ doing on 4? Why is € on 5? This company is apparently based in London, but I wonder how many UK residents were involved in the design of the keyboard at least. (I don't want to sound too mean though. It's no sin to attempt to experiment with a potential new market segment.)
- voidUpdate 10mo agoFrom what I can tell, it's a US International layout (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_and_American_keyboards#/media/File:KB_US-International.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_and_American_keyboards...), with some keys replaced with the mac equivalents
- 29athrowaway 10mo ago- $2,000 price - GPU is equivalent to a NVIDIA RTX 1650 - "Low profile" mechanical keyboard rather than a regular mechanical keyboard. - Low modularity similar to a laptop. - Holes right on the top where your spilled coffee goes
- danpalmer 10mo agoNothing screams "designed to accelerate your work" than tightly coupling the keyboard to all the rest of the hardware.
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- BrouteMinou 10mo agoThat's a weird keyboard, some computer specs and a weird linux distro... that's going to cost you $2k. $100 to have the rights to reserve one? That's really nice of them. Well... Good luck guys!
- ErroneousBosh 10mo ago> $100 to have the rights to reserve one? That's really nice of them. I paid £100 for a couple of old Thinkpad T430s, one of which I needed to spend a further £30 on to replace the battery. That would leave me with a lot of change from the two grand I kind of don't have to spend on a toy computer that they won't even publish specs for.
- meonkeys 10mo agoHard pass. Another Linux laptop with another sus distro won't teach anyone how to focus. Save a hand-me-down laptop from the landfill, install a known good distro, and do the hard work of culling distractions.
- gorgoiler 10mo agoI was hoping to see a flip up 12” x 4” screen. A bunch of devices have been showing up recently with this particular format of OLED. Here’s one that may or may not be vaporware, but which links to a couple of other devices with the same screen, so presumably something is shipping: https://liliputing.com/kernelcom-is-a-compact-mini-laptop-with-a-12-5-inch-ultrawide-touchscreen-display-mechanical-keyboard-and-no-touchpad-crowdfunding/ https://liliputing.com/kernelcom-is-a-compact-mini-laptop-wi... Alas, this is more of a BBC B / Amiga format nostalgia fest, from the homeland of the hipster dads, Central Shoreditch. This device could certainly add real value though if the OS / hardware integration gets nailed. That is, after all, where the Raspberry Pi really shone brightly: defining a standardised and working platform.
- flir 10mo ago> the homeland of the hipster dads, Central Shoreditch Old enough to remember when the hipsters moved in, I feel vindicated. Vindicated! (I like the beeb/amiga comparison, and I like the textured case, but I don't like the left-hand numpad).
- xorvoid 10mo agoHere's someone trying to build a serious PC focused on Linux. But the comments are very negative. And people wonder why the year of the Linux desktop still haven't arrived. If you want PCs targeting Linux with good support... don't complain when someone tries doing exactly that.
- summa_tech 10mo agoI think a lot of the negativity comes from the odd choice of keyboard layout. You can think of it as a weirdness budget: this is an odd-purposed device, running a specialty distribution of Linux by design. It is not portable despite having portable-like specs. And on top of this, it has an unusual keyboard layout. It costs a lot of money and requires pre-orders, so you can't even impulse buy it. You can't actually see if you'd like the keyboard switch or layout in stores, either.
- canucker2016 10mo agoI just assumed that the keyboard designer was a left-handed accounting/Excel geek (numeric keypad on the left side of the keyboard).
- wmf 10mo agoYou can get a normal PC with Linux preinstalled from Lenovo, Dell, Framework, System76, etc. This isn't bringing much new other than a retro case, a few widgets, and pretentious marketing. I understand that they're probably "lean' so the first version isn't going to be impressive, but that means they need to sell it below cost not at a premium.
- keithnz 10mo agoyou should complain a lot when the offering is not great, odd design decisions, bad price point, etc.... All of that is information to make better offerings. Instead of this thing, I think there are far better offerings from things like https://system76.com/laptops https://system76.com/laptops
- api 10mo agoIt’s just not a good deal and it’s a bit weird. A Framework laptop or desktop, a DIY build, or any number of other brands are better and sometimes cheaper.
- necrotic_comp 10mo agoThis isn't made by developers, that's clear, and I don't think it's going to be very functional. However, I do love the aesthetic and I do love that someone is trying something new.
- garciasn 10mo agoBy new you mean they’re making a 1980s all-in-one keyboard/computer with the 10 key on the wrong side of the keyboard running a version of a familiar-to-most-of-us OS that isn’t at all new looking? I’m sorry; none of this is new to me except the absurd price tag.
- ash_091 10mo agoWhile I agree with your general sentiment, the 10 key being on the "wrong" side could be good, perhaps, in some cases? Historically I've done some heavy spreadsheet work where the resting position of my hands which minimizes movement is right hand on the mouse, left hand on the 10 keys. On a normal keyboard that has the disadvantage of causing a "closed" posture which isn't entirely comfortable. Outside of that kind of niche use case though, it definitely feels like a strange choice for developers.
- StrLght 10mo agoA laptop without a screen for the price of a regular laptop? I get that economies of scale don't apply to something so niche, but that's just a bad deal. I'd rather get Framework Desktop.
- notnmeyer 10mo agoa framework desktop and omarchy is conceptually 98% of what the c100 purports to be.
- pkd 10mo agoNo need for a boatload of shell scripts that's omarchy. Just install any distro and get going.
- notnmeyer 10mo agoi’ve been following this for a while and still find it completely wild that you can preorder but there’s effectively no details. theres a couple completely unimpressive videos (like 15s long) from employees on linkedin where they show off… tiling window management.
- data-ottawa 10mo agoBeautiful webpage but I would like to know more about both the machine and the OS.
- danpalmer 10mo agoWho is this for? Because it's not for the developers I know – they either want a Macbook or an infinitely configurable (hardware and software) workstation, whereas this has the configurability of a Macbook with the ease of use of the workstation, clearly not a combination people want. I can only assume this is for mechanical keyboard collectors. Developer-adjacent tech enthusiasts who like the idea of Linux, without an actual professional need for it. People who like well built devices, but don't really care about swapping out hardware. People who have a lot of disposable income and want to buy cool things. If that's the target market, that's fine. I guess the problem is that market only buys it if you claim its for a different market, developers/etc. As a result it's going to rile up developers every time as they always feel the need to push back with "this isn't what I want".
- _dan 10mo agoThe uniform stagger is likely to make most keyboard nerds turn their noses up too.
- viraptor 10mo ago> Who is this for? Probably people who see this and experience extreme confused nostalgia for the unholy merge of IBM and Commodore esthetic. It makes no practical sense, it's overpriced, it's a terrible use of space and I still crave it.
- noobermin 10mo agoIf they were going for the commodore aesthetic, 1) may be don't call it workbench OS to confuse people and 2) the numpad (if it was called that then) is on the wrong side. It was on the right on the C64 and the amiga alike like it was. Would this benefit left handed users? I know people call for reversing mouse buttons and mouse hands but I've never seen an ask for flipping the position of the numpad.
- viraptor 10mo agoThey don't have to replicate everything exactly as it was in the original machines to give the right vibe. It's similar, not a retrocomputing reproduction. Also Amiga was made by Commodore - it's in the same family. I don't expect anyone to be confused by the workbench naming though - it's a weird name, but why would anyone stick the actual workbench os on a multi-GB machine?
- OzzyB 10mo agoPut in a couple of MIDI ports and I'll pretend it's a modern day Atari ST and run some Cubase...
- jovial_cavalier 10mo agoThere are huge black rectangles where screenshots should go. I'm assuming that's not supposed to be there...
- wmf 10mo agoThe screenshots are there. I think your browser is not loading them.
- jovial_cavalier 10mo agoIt was because autoplay was disabled
- brandonmenc 10mo agoIf Teenage Engineering made a computer. Expensive, not ergonomic, probably totally useless.
- slmjkdbtl 10mo agoI wouldn't say TE's products are not ergonomic and totally useless
- 0123456789ABCDE 10mo agothey are expensive over-engineered toys for millennials with a bad case of arrested development and enough disposable income to afford it _op-1 owner_
- slmjkdbtl 10mo agoop-1 is the most notorious one, but they do have some well designed not over-priced products
- jwr 10mo agoIt's funny how price triggers people. Let them price their products however they will :-) As a counterpoint, EP-133 (KO-II) is a very interestingly designed product that is ergonomic, quite useful, and gets a specific job done very, very well. The price also has fewer digits, so perhaps it doesn't trigger people as much as other products do.
- brandonmenc 10mo agoWho said they're not allowed to sell it? I used to own an OP-1 and I thought it was great.
- ErroneousBosh 10mo ago> If Teenage Engineering made a computer. Nailed it.
- TheRoque 10mo agoMight be worth to buy just for the parts
- wmf 10mo agoIt's $1,000 worth of parts. (Although 96 GB of RAM could be worth $10,000 soon enough.)
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- emantos 10mo agoSo, basically, a headless laptop with a custom linux distro. 2K at that. Alrighty then.
- kaladin-jasnah 10mo agoA few things about this stand out: - Calligra with two 'l's is the name of a KDE office suite. - Why does the keyboard have macOS keys? At least as a Linux user, I've felt like most Linux desktops reflect the Windows keyboard layout more. - Can I have pictures of the internals of the machine, or is this a 3D rendering? - The Workbench OS makes a lot of claims that I want more information about. Is this a rice on a common WM or something they made themselves? Why is it "suitable for sovereign and secure deployments"? Won't having homebrew and DNF lead to conflicts (this is more of a general question, since I genuinely don't know)? Nonetheless, I have to say that it does look cool from a design perspective, and with the pace of DRAM prices, maybe the actual system price won't actually be that crazy in a few months.
- sho_hn 10mo agoTo be honest, every time I see something this paper-thin yet slick and polished, I just assume it's mostly AI slop. The barrier to launching vaporware has never been lower. Content over presentation is a signal for quality more than ever.
- worthless-trash 10mo agoIIRC there was a live stream where the creator went over the prototype.
- noobermin 10mo agoSo this probably should be the top comment, but I'll reply to add to my nitpicks. Calling it workbench OS does confuse a bit from the amiga workbench, although I doubt these people are aware of that.
- xp84 10mo ago“Confuse a bit” I highly doubt anyone is “dailying” an Amiga today for any actual work (other than retro fun), so I suspect there won’t be even a single person who expects this to be compatible with Amiga. Likewise anyone looking for like a FPGA new Amiga hardware knows anything that says it’s got a Ryzen is not the droid they’re looking for.
- rvz 10mo agoThis product is a massive downgrade and the price is devoid from the functionality that you can get from a typical laptop. A Macbook Pro M5 running Asahi Linux would still be more cheaper than this trash scam. No thanks and no deal.
- shinryuu 10mo agoExcept asahi doesn't run on m5
- chenzhekl 10mo agoI don't quite get who the product targets. The only advantage I can think of is its retro design and its unique OS. But honestly, they are not attractive enough for me to pay 2k USD. I could build a more powerful server with the same money.
- constantcrying 10mo agoThe hardware is totally ridiculous for the price. You are paying a lot of money so that the CPU can be close to your fingers, instead of in a much better cooled box half a meter away. The OS is totally mysterious. What exactly is it? Just Fedora with a custom rice of some wm? By the way "Entertainment, Advertising, Shopping, Attack Surface, Distraction" is something you do not have in most distros anyway. So hardly a selling point. Who is this for? Companies with too much money? Individuals with some aesthetic sensibilities for putting your hardware right below your keyboard?
- kragen 10mo agoNot much of a terminal without a monitor, is it? Or is its output entirely audio? I'm curious what the physical size of the machine is. Is it GPD MicroPC-sized or are we talking about a normal laptop? 100g or 10kg? When I worked in a call center I learned to use the Data General terminal's keypad to type in people's credit card numbers as fast as people could say them. I would not want to use this keypad because I wouldn't be able to use my right hand on it, and that's the hand that knows the keypad. Then again, I don't do that much numeric data entry these days. What's the ⌘ "interesting feature" key for?
- NaomiLehman 10mo ago⌘ is Mac's Command key. No idea what it's doing there.
- kragen 10mo agoRight, Susan Kare found it in her international symbol dictionary: https://www.folklore.org/Swedish_Campground.html?sort=date?sort=date https://www.folklore.org/Swedish_Campground.html?sort=date?s... But what I mean is, what X-Windows keysym and modifier does it map to?
- bitwize 10mo agoOoooh, someone is asking for it from Amiga fans. Marketing an AIO keyboard PC with a deep back and calling the OS "Workbench"? Courteous of them to put the numpad on the left where it BELONGS (apologies to late-80s Northgate Systems). And it's funny because I was just watching a vid about the Asus Eee Keyboard PC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus_Eee#Eee_Keyboard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus_Eee#Eee_Keyboard) that this looks like a modern version of. Much better specs than that old thing though, but given that it has a "vibe-designed" look about it, I think I'll pass on preordering.
- gapan 10mo ago"We've removed the distractions..." So, no browser is included then? That won't be very useful. And also "Commercial-grade media support". Those two things are at odds, aren't they? And why is it a "terminal" and not a "computer"? Is it because "terminal" is a geeky word? And no pictures, other than the very obvious render? How thick is it? What kind of connectivity/ports does it have? Is it completely flat, or wedge shaped? Can the keyboard be detached somehow? What's the deal with those weird keys? What does it look on the inside? What's the software that it's actually using? What WM is that? Can I install it on my laptop? Where is the source code? So many questions. It looks a lot like vapourware to me. And at that price point, I'm not sure who is going to buy that.
- berkes 10mo agoI think a very common misconception makes this a terrible idea. We, developers, are also "common computer users". Just like a sound engineer, a graphic designer, a movie editor, or any specialist, really, has fancy hard- and software, but remains also a "general user". I have to do my taxes. Write a CV, or a speech. I have to make a presentation. I want to watch netflix. Listen to spotify. Must use trello, read my email, or use that abysmal internal time tracker. Play a game. Order new sneakers. Find a restaurant. And no, I don't do all that in emacs, terminal, bash scripts and lynx. Like every "general computer user" I use my computer for those things as well. Despite what Hollywood makes it look like, developers, hackers, sw architects, sw engineers etc do use the stuff that everyone uses as well. Commonly and often.
- actionfromafar 10mo agoBut sometimes it's helpful to have two computers, one for "deep work" and one for all of that stuff.
- berkes 10mo agoMaybe. It's not common amongst any of the developers I see in my bubble. Could be my bubble. And it doesn't mean this practice of having one machine for all uses, is actually "good". Though personally, i'd dislike the idea of having to maintain, update, etc multiple machines. And to sync data/logins/documents/tools between the two. I like grepping through my "Administration/invoices". I prefer putting "Documents/contracts/" under git, eventhough all are pdfs and word. I need my todo-list to be a mix of work related and personal tasks. Also, I listen spotify when I work. I check or answer work and personal mail when waiting for a meeting to start. I use my notes for work and private. Same for password manager, calendar. In my case, the line is too blurred to be able to switch between machines. Theyll very much overlap, making having two a burden rather than a benefit. But that's me.
- october8140 10mo agoComputer for Experts™
- october8140 10mo agoThis looks like the next Trump Phone.
- jackjeff 10mo agoIs there any videos of this thing or maybe just the OS?
- jwr 10mo agoI love the fact that somebody tries to do something with computers and computing! Rather than being the usual bunch of grumpy armchair critics (raah raah, too expensive, raah raah, suboptimal GPU), we should be happy that there are still people who are willing to ignore the Statlers & Waldorfs of HN and try to compete with the current status quo.
- card_zero 10mo agoDo you feel grumpy about these grumpy critics, or critical of them?
- boesboes 10mo agoToo expensive. I want something like this, minimalist hardware and a opinionated linux distro with minimal fluff. No screen persee, bit of a cyberdeck vibe maybe. This just seems overkill for running a terminal though
- Uptrenda 10mo agoive seen this advertised for months now. still have no idea what the hell it is.
- jensgk 10mo agoIt’s an odd keyboard layout for a Linux computer. They should have gone with what I consider the true Unix layout - the Sun Microsystems Type 7 Unix keyboard: https://imgur.com/PftSNnk https://imgur.com/PftSNnk
- berkes 10mo agoWhile I do applaud the idea of "re-thinking the computer for deverlopers", this looks little more than "thinking", to me. A back of a beermat business idea, pulled through an expensive marketing machine. My rule of thumb: if something has a concrete price, but the something itself isn't made yet, it's either way too expensive or a ploy or both. Maybe its a "find if there's need for it" phase. But if you cannot make that "it" concrete, I -and I suspect many more of the target audience- cannot answer this question. So yes: kudos for bringing up the "developers need other hard and software than general audience" idea. But I would strongly advice to first make it concrete and deliver pieces and parts. Release the DE and OS so we can experience if this solves "problems" that devs have. Finetune that. Again. And again. Then pair it with hardware. Personally, I'd go for hardware thats already popular with devs. For me, thatd be: Ship me a high end Lenovo, with Ubuntu¹ pre-installed and loaded with software like neovim, zsh, git, ripgrep, chrome, firefox, zed, slack (we all require it, don't we?) vscode. Maybe some icing like starship, a nice theme. It could be opinionated or extremely configurable (and remain stable at that over years). Or, on second thought: I have all that. So what problem does this solve?
- sylware 10mo agoUntil this 'linux based' OS is ultra minimal, including the SDK (exclude de facto ultra-complex syntax languages).
- Pop_- 10mo agoI just scanned through their ToS, "pre-installed with the proprietary Linux OS". Looks not good to me lol.
- oh-my-god 10mo agoVaporware
- gt0 10mo agoI've been following this for a while, great looking hardware, but the target market knows how to buy a computer, they don't need custom boxes. For me this is a solution to a problem that doesn't really exist. I like the look, but it wouldn't even really suit my desk, I like to have my keyboard push quite far forward, and the back of this C100 would prevent that. Really nice, might even buy one, but there is no way this succeeds long term.
- voidUpdate 10mo ago96GB is a hell of a lot of ram for a terminal... Am I using my terminal wrong?
- thw_9a83c 10mo agoThere are few more photos of this HW here [1] and [2]. Apparently a real HW already exists. Also, it seems there is a storage space inside the box [3] and that the keyboard is foldable.. [1]: https://www.pentagram.com/news/caligra-computers-for-experts https://www.pentagram.com/news/caligra-computers-for-experts [2]: https://www.instagram.com/p/DPEvytujE4k/ https://www.instagram.com/p/DPEvytujE4k/ [3]: https://www.instagram.com/p/DPEvytujE4k/?img_index=8 https://www.instagram.com/p/DPEvytujE4k/?img_index=8
- AJ007 10mo agoSeeing the height and angle, I would question how comfortable that keyboard is. The whole project looks like a special edition collectors item, not something anyone would use.
- TheOtherHobbes 10mo agoWait - Pentagram designed a computer? Definitely not a company with deep experience of developer culture. I expect this will look slick and have a few nice features, but there's going to be a lot of "How do I...?" "No."
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- bilekas 10mo ago> Computers for Experts™ I do find it funny they were able to trademark that kind of statement. Not really sure I am the target audience for this, actually I'm not really sure who is to be honest.
- feketegy 10mo agoThis is from their privacy policy page: > 9.2. Trademarks: “c100”, “Caligra” and all associated logos and trade dress are registered or unregistered trademarks of Caligra Ltd. You may not use any of Caligra Ltd’s trademarks without express written permission. "Computer for Experts" may be trademarked, but it's unlikely
- newsclues 10mo agoIs the market engineers and scientists, rather than devs?
- K0balt 10mo agoWhy do I feel like this is kinda like the hipster carrying his typewriter on the bus? It seems like stuff like this is more about presenting an “identity “ instead of actually doing anything real. My immediate assumption from seeing someone with this would be that they are more about appearing to do a thing than actually doing it… so perhaps a good ux designer.
- OhMeadhbh 10mo agoRight. Apple spent DECADES working on developers to make MBPs the exemplar hipster dev accessory
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- K0balt 10mo agoTo be fair, I switched when apple silicon cut my compile time by 75 percent even using x86 emulation, dollar for dollar, and I got 2x battery life out of the deal for free. I run Linux most of the time in a VM these days, but I also really enjoy the ability to run largish (70b) models at Q6 with reasonable performance, thanks to the unified memory. They got some stuff pretty right, have to give them that.
- OhMeadhbh 10mo agoFor the price of the Apple Silicon I bought four AMD CPUs and distributed my build across them. But mostly I bought them for VP9 and AV1 encoding projects I'm working on. But no doubt Apple will eventually catch up.
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- actinium226 10mo agoThere are some way cooler versions of this over on https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberDeck/ https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberDeck/
- Minor49er 10mo agoIf by "cooler" you mean "way more difficult and awkward than just using a laptop" then you're right
- andsoitis 10mo agoGiven target market, I’m very surprised at lack of detailed technical specifications. Secondly, I find it odd to see the numpad on the left side of the keyboard, rather than on the right. Maybe the ergonomics are fine, but it caught my eye as unexpected.
- A4ET8a8uTh0_v2 10mo agoActually, that was the one thing that got my attention ( throwback to very old days ). Still, muscle memory would be a pain now.
- bmn__ 10mo agoThe first thing I see is the badly designed keyboard. The legends have insufficient contrast and quite a number of them are too small to read. The legends for ², ³, home, end, page up, page down, return, control, num lock and the four arrows are wrong, or in the case of escape, do not fit the theme. Minus and underscore are indistinguishable from each other. The small letter g has the wrong font weight. The level 3 and 4 legends are incongruent with /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/eu. Despite level 3 and 4 legends, there is no level 3 shift key. The return key is misshapen and the escape key has a grotesquely large size. The place of the insert key is usurped by the fn key. I would behoove the designer to pay attention to ISO 9995 and verify the result with users before sending it off to manufacturing, the company could have avoided a lot of trouble.
- nullbyte808 10mo agoYou would think they would put NixOS on it instead of Fedora.
- nullbyte808 10mo agoI thought of buying an old CRT based terminal PC from the 80s or 90s and running SSH into a modern linux PC I have to get that old school feeling. I would rather pay for that then this.
- asciii 10mo agoI'm curious who the target expert or market is because I would not carry that clunky metal around. The whole thing is terrible + a dedicated OS for "certain" work? Price tag $2k? I would rather buy the Apple pouch.
- summermusic 10mo agoThe Workbench feature to have an always-on-hand notepad overlay thing is really appealing. I always have a multi-tabbed text editor handy for quick notes and this seems like a good way to integrate that into the shell. I’d love to take this Workbench distribution for a spin based on that. But to mirror the sentiment here on HN, the rest of it looks vaporware-y