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Meta’s live demo fails; “AI” recording plays before the actor takes the steps

466 points by personjerry 1y ago

pera 1y ago
There is a second part that is equally bad, but with Zuck: https://old.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1nkbqyk/zuckerberg_invested_billions_in_new_tech_to_watch/ https://old.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1nkbqyk/...
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- fluoridation 1y ago
  God, that's actually painful to watch. I can't believe I lasted two minutes.
  - sebgan 1y ago
    I was going to say that’s two minutes I won’t get back (and I won’t) but, ya know, schadenfreude.
    - fluoridation 1y ago
      It's kind of like Peep Show, where the writers tried to engineer the most awkward social situations, only without the jokes.
      - chrisweekly 1y ago
        Tangent: if you like cringey social awkwardness comedy (not my usual cup of tea, but in this case it's extraordinary, and hilarious), try "I Think You Should Leave". "Brian's Hat" is the 1st one I saw and maybe the best: https://youtu.be/LO2k-BNySLI?si=qEX7STkSOeCVZtK- https://youtu.be/LO2k-BNySLI?si=qEX7STkSOeCVZtK- Also "Hot Dog Car" https://youtu.be/WLfAf8oHrMo?si=jz5EKwjJZm1UMZau https://youtu.be/WLfAf8oHrMo?si=jz5EKwjJZm1UMZau
        pixelpoet 1y ago
        Nathan for You is almost physically painful to watch, the cringe is so intense I can only take a few seconds at a time.
        twoodfin 1y ago
        Nathan Fielder is a genius. The Rehearsal is less in-the-moment cringe and more soul-soaking cringe. Amazing stuff.
        ojbyrne 1y ago
        Canadians do it best. https://youtu.be/tXgfzxXUVsc?si=vBXu20TewUldSBJB https://youtu.be/tXgfzxXUVsc?si=vBXu20TewUldSBJB
        ChoGGi 1y ago
        That he certainly is good at, but I loved his interview with Fabio, also that Monica Lewinsky one.
      - trevithick 1y ago
        Also a tangent, but Microsoft was the OG for corporate cringe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cX4t5-YpHQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cX4t5-YpHQ
        fzzzy 1y ago
        Developers developers developers developers!
        all2 1y ago
        One of the best mashups on youtube came from this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE Enjoy. :)
        dreamcompiler 1y ago
        Oh my god. How strong does a company's reality distortion field have to be for people to think your friends are going to want to come over to play with a new version of Windows? I mean, why not "Let's all have wine and cheese and do root canals on each other!"?
        Ancapistani 1y ago
        It was a different time. I honestly was excited about Windows 95. Win98 was underwhelming, and WinME was a joke that I never bothered to install on my own machines. Win2K brought back some of the excitement, but not much. Then Vista came out, and it was a total flop at first. Win7 fixed most of those mistakes, but the damage was done. Vista basically killed any chance Microsoft had at building excitement for an OS. FWIW, I think the last macOS version that I was really looking forward to was High Sierra.
        Anamon 1y ago
        Yeah, younger folks don't remember that new operating systems used to be a thing of excitement -- what cool new features will we get? -- and not, like today, a thing of distress -- what did they break this time, and which new ways have they found to piss me off I remember my dad driving us to the local Windows 95 pre-launch event by Microsoft. I was 10 and had learned the ridiculous and useless skills of DOS memory configuration and bootdisk juggling to get all of the games to run. Win95 was so cool! I remember spending hours on the multimedia catalog and demos on the CD-ROM and marvelling at the possibilities.
    - rkagerer 1y ago
      Here's one of my favorites, of Lars doing the Wave dance on stage to ad-lib over connectivity hiccups. For some reason it evoked a lot more empathy from me... https://youtu.be/v_UyVmITiYQ?t=19m35s https://youtu.be/v_UyVmITiYQ?t=19m35s
      - pamelafox 1y ago
        I was on the Wave team! Our servers didn't have enough capacity, we launched too soon. I was managing the developer-facing server for API testing, and I had to slowly let developers in to avoid overwhelming it.
        rkagerer 1y ago
        <Waves to you> Neat, thanks for sharing this tidbit of history. Hey, what did the team think of the decision to build it on GWT at the time? (From the outside, seemed like an enabling approach but a bit like building an engine and airframe all at once).
        pamelafox 1y ago
        Hm, I didn't work on the frontend but I don't particularly remember griping..GWT had been around for ~5 years at that point, so it wasn't super new: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Web_Toolkit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Web_Toolkit I always personally found it a bit odd, as I preferred straight JS myself, but large companies have to pick some sort of framework for websites, and Google already used Java a fair bit.
        floren 1y ago
        Wave was extremely cool and I wish it had stuck around. Hope it was as fun for you to work on as it was for us to use.
        pamelafox 1y ago
        It was fun! Now we still see Wave-iness in other products: Google Docs uses the Operational Transforms (OT) algorithm for collab editing (or at least it did, last I knew), and non-Google products like Notion, Quip, Slack, Loop from Microsoft, all have some overlap. We struggled with having too many audiences for Wave - were we targeting consumer or enterprise? email or docs replacement? Too much at once. The APIs were so dang fun though.
  - twothreeone 1y ago
    Mark's definitely mastered optimizing for peak cringe factor while at 1.95T valuation.
    - jncfhnb 1y ago
      Obligatory https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eBxTEoseZak https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eBxTEoseZak
      - fluoridation 1y ago
        Good god...
    - zelphirkalt 1y ago
      They just need an emotionless android without conscience, who does whatever is in the best interest of raking in money. They don't need technological excellence. Whether people at his company technologically succeed or fail, what matters is, that the company processes all the PII and feeds the algorithms. The rest is just for show.
      - blibble 1y ago
        they have one in the already in the CEO position
        throwawayoldie 1y ago
        Not to put words in the OP's mouth, but I think that was the joke.
      - barnabyjones 1y ago
        I think such an emotionless android would have diligently prepared numerous backup scripts, sets of lenses, actors, demonstrations etc. to cover any failure contingency, since the cost of that is infinitesimal compared to even a slight change in their brand value.
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  - blibble 1y ago
    robozuck was also having wifi problems
  - tdeck 1y ago
    There are such long gaps after each question too. Apparently the sci-fi future will be laggier than expected.
    - jijijijij 1y ago
      This will also not change much, since they want you to use their centralized services for data collection, not local or onsite processing. So you will always have roundtrips and shared resources. For IO this is pretty unacceptable, people get annoyed by millisecond delays.
- OJFord 1y ago
  Would be good to change the OP link to this - it's the same clip but plus a bit more.
- I_am_tiberius 1y ago
  I really missed seeing Zuck sweat.
- anonymousiam 1y ago
  Big tech has spent $155bn on AI this year. It’s about to spend hundreds of billions more https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/aug/02/big-tech-ai-spending https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/aug/02/big-tech-...
  - Lu2025 1y ago
    They classify a lot of it as R&D and write it off taxes. Taxpayers foot the bill.
    - trenchpilgrim 1y ago
      "That's not a write off!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCP27_vquxQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCP27_vquxQ
      - anonymars 1y ago
        Obligatory -- "You don't even know what a write-off is. Do you?" https://youtu.be/XEL65gywwHQ https://youtu.be/XEL65gywwHQ
        lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
        Something I like about that scene is Seinfeld (the actor) clearly struggles not to smile at Kramer's delivery of the punch line despite that he (the character) was supposed to be irate with Kramer.
        anonymars 1y ago
        Heh. Well, Kramer himself...was often less amused... Thread/video: https://old.reddit.com/r/television/comments/7lvvg5/michael_richards_getting_constantly_pissed_at_the/ https://old.reddit.com/r/television/comments/7lvvg5/michael_... Probably that's why it feels like half the actual episode takes were like that, because they couldn't keep from breaking!
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- pseudosavant 1y ago
  As bad as I thought that was going to be, it was worse. And I set the bar very low for anything involving Zuck. #MustWatch
- jonplackett 1y ago
  This is the best thing I’ve seen ever. It makes me so happy I can’t even tell you.
- EFreethought 1y ago
  OT, but thanks for linking to old.reddit.com instead of www.reddit.com. The new interface is an abomination.
- arduanika 1y ago
  "A man's reach should exceed his grasp."
- nabla9 1y ago
  This is like "The Office" (Original UK version with Ricky Gervais as David Brent) with $2T market cap company.
  - mrbonner 1y ago
    There is already Hooli!
- theideaofcoffee 1y ago
  Every added drop of his flop sweat during this disaster just gives me that much more life. Amazing.
- gonyanghn 1y ago
  This is what it has come to? This is artificial intelligence? Billions and billions of dollars spent to narrate a recipe? Something that can be written down on a piece of paper?
  - throwawayoldie 1y ago
    I have a copy of the classic "Joy Of Cooking" in the kitchen. It was a lot cheaper, works perfectly every time, and doesn't get ruined if (when) I spill foodstuffs on it.
    - johnnienaked 1y ago
      The more you spill, the more the book starts to look delicious
      - throwawayoldie 1y ago
        BRB got a book I have to lick real quick.
  - gooob 1y ago
    i always wonder why they choose the stupidest shit for these demos. like, to whom do they think they're advertising this?
    - kolinko 1y ago
      They don’t want to spend 30 min explaining domain knowledge required to understand a certain super specific case. Instead they show tech’s quality on a basic highest common denominator use case and allow people to extrapolate to their cases. Similarly car ads show people going from home to a store (or to mountains). You’re not asking there “but what if I want to go to a cinema with the car”. If it can go to a store, it can go to a cinema, or any other obscure place, as long as there is a similar road getting there.
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- gonyanghn 1y ago
  Reminds me of Jin Yang and his 8 ways to cook an octopus, on silicon valley: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ltFB4WBdDg4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ltFB4WBdDg4
  - uncircle 1y ago
    Funny how VR was the hyped thing when the show was filmed, and today the hype has been replaced wholesale by AI. Also funny how Meta has been trying to capitalise on both things.
- jimmydoe 1y ago
  If not for these epic failures, I won’t even know they had a demo. Guess neg marketing is still marketing, it worked.
- rapind 1y ago
  In fairness to Zuck, he spends most of his time hunting with his crossbow these days.
  - Anamon 1y ago
    What brand of gear does he use?
jjbinx007 1y ago
This is like a Black Mirror episode. Also, is it a conscious decision to make the TTS sound so robotic?
- blinding-streak 1y ago
  Maybe it's modeled on Zuck's robotic voice
josefritzishere 1y ago
AI is hot trash. When will this river of garbage stop?
- zer0zzz 1y ago
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  - mattigames 1y ago
    That sounds a bit too much like "this is good for Bitcoin"
    - zer0zzz 1y ago
      Your vague-posting and straw man arguments are not very good.
  - johnnienaked 1y ago
    What, pray tell, is the AI argument?
- autoexec 1y ago
  When billionaires stop fantasizing about AI allowing them to rid themselves of the filthy peasant class which keeps feeling entitled to take even the smallest fraction of their income from them just because they're also doing all the actual work that makes that income possible. What passes for AI is just good enough to keep the dream alive and even while its usefulness isn't manifesting in reality they still have a deluge of comforting promises to soothe themselves back to sleep with. Eventually all the sweet whispers of "AGI is right around the corner!" or "Replace your pesky employees soon!" will be drowned out by the realization that no amount of money or environmental collateral damage thrown at the problem will make them gods, but until then they just need all of your data, your water, and 10-15 more years.
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timpera 1y ago
The failures on stage were kind of endearing, to be honest, especially the one with Zuck. Plus the products seem really cool, I hope I'll be able to try them out soon.
- zer0zzz 1y ago
  Yeah. I’m impressed we have any sort of wave guide display on sale commercially this year.
- jaccola 1y ago
  Zuckerberg has negative charisma, it's painful to watch... Jobs handled this so much better; while clearly he is pissed, he doesn't leave you cringing in mutual embarrassment, goes to show it isn't as easy as he makes it look! See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M4t14s7nSM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M4t14s7nSM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znxQOPFg2mo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znxQOPFg2mo
  - rhetocj23 1y ago
    Jobs was one of a kind. He had that aura that Bill G et al envied. He admitted so in a video that can be found on YT.
    - throw-the-towel 1y ago
      Yet even Bill G handled public failure better than Zuck: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jGwy4sb9aO8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jGwy4sb9aO8
      - rhetocj23 1y ago
        I mean Bill wasnt figuring out how to get back at girls that rejected him in college lol. Zuck carries that energy no matter what he does nor what amount of wealth he amasses.
      - asadm 1y ago
        that clip reminds me of how Sundar reacts to these things.
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ryandrake 1y ago
I love how they randomly blame the WiFi network, like anyone is going to buy it.
- jerlam 1y ago
  It's almost certainly a joke. Everyone knows that the demo failed.
  - rgovostes 1y ago
    A reference to the 2010 iPhone 4 demo perhaps: https://www.infoworld.com/article/2297843/steve-jobs-wi-fi-meltdown-at-wwdc.html https://www.infoworld.com/article/2297843/steve-jobs-wi-fi-m...
  - AstroBen 1y ago
    Maybe but it really didnt read like a joke..
  - mupuff1234 1y ago
    Certainly didnt seem like a joke.
    - dxxmxnd 1y ago
      Its definitely a joke. They were saying it again when the WhatsApp call failed. They were being sarcastic.
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- Reason077 1y ago
  Bad idea to rely on WiFi for an important demo in a crowded environment. It would have worked fine in testing but when the crowd arrives and they all start streaming etc, they bring hundreds more devices all competing for bandwidth. Zuck should have known better and used Ethernet for this one!
skhameneh 1y ago
As much as it'll be "interesting" to see how models behave in real world examples (presumably similarly to how the demos went), I'm not convinced this is a premade recording like what seems to be implied. I'm imagining this is an incomplete flow within a software prototype that may have jumped steps and lacks sufficient multi-modal capability to correct. It could also be staged recordings. But, I don't think it really matters. Models are easily capable of working with the setup and flow they have for the demo. It's real world accuracy, latency, convenience, and other factors that will impact actual users the most. What's the reliability and latency needed for these to be a useful tool? For example, I can't imagine many people wanting to use the gesture writing tools for most messages. It's cool, I like that it was developed, but I doubt it'll see substantial adoption with what's currently being pitched.
- dabbz 1y ago
  Yea the behavior of the AI read to me more like a hard coded demo but still very much "live". I suspect him cutting it off was poorly timed and that timing could have amplified due to WiFi? Who knows. I wasn't there. I didn't build it.
  - YeahThisIsMe 1y ago
    So the live demo failed?
    - dabbz 1y ago
      I was more clarifying my own hypothesis on what level of "live" this demo was, more so than explaining away the failure mechanics.
reader9274 1y ago
Should've downloaded more ram for the wifi to work better
sampton 1y ago
I bet they rehearsed a dozen times and never failed as bad live. Got to give them props for keeping the live demos. Apple has neutered its demos so much it's now basically 2 hr long commercials.
- donkyrf 1y ago
  The new Apple presentations are much more information dense, and tailored to the main (online) audience. They’re clearly better.
  - sampton 1y ago
    More dense but less trust worthy. I don't think they would have pushed apple intelligence the way they did if there was a live demo.
    - crooked-v 1y ago
      Live Apple demos were always held together with duct tape in the first place. That first "live" iPhone demo had a memorized sequence that Jobs needed to use to keep the whole phone OS from hard crashing.
      - suriya-ganesh 1y ago
        Even with that, Live demos are incredibly more better than hour long demos.
        kridsdale3 1y ago
        They also force the developers to make it work, under threat of being fired, and in the ire of Steve Jobs case, being yeeted in to the sun along with their ancestors and descendents.
      - ajcp 1y ago
        During that first iPhone demo they also had a portable cell tower (cell on wheels) just off-stage to mimic a better signal strength than it was capable of. NYTimes write-up on the whole thing is worth the read [0]. 0.https://web.archive.org/web/20250310045704/https://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/06/magazine/and-then-steve-said-let-there-be-an-iphone.html https://web.archive.org/web/20250310045704/https://www.nytim...
self_awareness 1y ago
Those WiFi's man, they're always trouble
watersb 1y ago
Never work with children, animals, and puppets. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NeverWorkWithChildrenOrAnimals#:~:text=Jim%20Henson%20states%20that%20he'd%20been%20told%20never%20to%20work%20with%20children%2C%20animals%2C%20or%20puppets. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NeverWorkWithChi...
- flux3125 1y ago
  and AI
alangibson 1y ago
That wasn't prerecorded, but it was rigged. They probably practiced a few times and it confused the AI. Still it's no excuse. They've dropped Apollo-program level money on this and it's still dumb as a rock. I'm endless amazed that Meta has a ~2T market cap, yet they can't build products.
- johnnyanmac 1y ago
  At this point, honesty is an oasis that is the 2025 year of scams and grifts. I'm just waiting for all the bubbles to pop.
  - fullshark 1y ago
    It's been this way since natural internet user base growth dried up
    - johnnyanmac 1y ago
      True. We at least had a period where they weren't so blatant about it. But now it's robbery in blind daylight.
- privatelypublic 1y ago
  Well, it _IS_ a rock after all.
- smelendez 1y ago
  That was my thought — the memory might not have been properly cleared from the last rehearsal. I found the use case honestly confusing though. This guy has a great kitchen, just made steak, and has all the relevant ingredients in house and laid out but no idea how to turn them into a sauce for his sandwich?
  - pessimizer 1y ago
    Yes. Even if the demo worked perfectly, it's hopelessly contrived. Just get text-to-speech to slowly read you the recipe.
MattDaEskimo 1y ago
More than likely the full response was kept as context despite being interrupted. Notably though, the AI was clearly not utilizing its visual feed to work alongside him as implied
nba456_ 1y ago
still better than the pre-taped apple events. happy to see these products in action
AdmiralAsshat 1y ago
The Kotaku article on this had a really nice final zinger[0]: > Oh, and here’s Jack Mancuso making a Korean-inspired steak sauce in 2023. > https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cn248pLDoZY/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_mid=61BD3E2F-D5FE-4872-A73D-98F049C7DEA7 https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cn248pLDoZY/?utm_source=ig_em... 0: https://kotaku.com/meta-ai-mark-zuckerberg-korean-steak-sauce-facebook-2000626808 https://kotaku.com/meta-ai-mark-zuckerberg-korean-steak-sauc...
- Yizahi 1y ago
  And the whole pear in the recipe situation was also hilarious :)
  - csa 1y ago
    > And the whole pear in the recipe situation was also hilarious The fact that the pear was in the recipe, or that the AI didn’t handle that situation around the pear well? Asian pears are a common ingredient in beef marinades/sauces in Korea. It adds sweetness and (iirc) helps tenderize the meat when in a marinade.
    - Yizahi 1y ago
      I mean that the recipes for this sauce on the internet have pear as an ingredient and LLM also assumed this, but there was no pear present on a table, so LLM didn't take into account visual data and assumed pear is there too. Which is funny since it was the whole point of the presentation, querying LLM for whatever text in text or voice only mode is nothing new today.
patrickhogan1 1y ago
Credit where it’s due: doing live demos is hard. Yesterday didn’t feel staged—it looked like the classic “last-minute tweak, unexpected break.” Most builders have been there. I certainly have (I once spent 6 hours at a hackathon and broke the Flask server keying in a last minute change on the steps of the stage before going on).
- axblount 1y ago
  Live demos are especially hard when you're selling snake oil.
  - steve-atx-7600 1y ago
    Yeah. Everyone wants to be like Steve but forgets that he usually had something amazing to show off.
    - OsrsNeedsf2P 1y ago
      Didn't Steve flip through 3 iPhones and hardcode the network UI to look like they had good signal?
      - nwallin 1y ago
        One of the demos was printing a thing out, but the processor was hopelessly too slow to perform the actual print job. So they hand unrolled all the code to get it down from something like a 30 minute print job to a 30 second print job. I think at this point it should be expected that every publicly facing demo (and most internal ones) are staged.
    - scuff3d 1y ago
      He faked shit all the time. He just faked it well and actually delivered later.
      - whatevaa 1y ago
yallpendantools 1y ago
I have a friend who does magic shows. He sells his shows as magic and stand-up comedy. It's both live entertainment, okay, but he is the only person I've ever seen use that tagline. We went to see him perform once and everything became clear when he opened the night. "This is supposed to be a magic show," he told us. "But if my tricks fail you can laugh at it and we'll just do stand-up comedy." Zuck, for a modest and totally-reasonable fee, I will introduce you to my friend. You can add his tricks (wink wink) to your newly-assembled repertoire of human charisma.
- monooso 1y ago
  If your friend isn't already aware of Tommy Cooper [1], he's in for a treat. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Cooper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Cooper
  - Poomba 1y ago
    He was so funny, people laughed when he died!
- fluoridation 1y ago
  So, wait, is he just a shitty magician and a funny guy, or does he fail on purpose?
  - whoisthemachine 1y ago
    The AI, or this person's friend?
    - fluoridation 1y ago
      The friend.
  - yallpendantools 1y ago
    Haha. I honestly don't know. Which makes him...a great entertainer at least? The show was a real good time though. Take this with lots of salt but I read somewhere that circus shows "fail" at least one jump to help sell to the audience the risk the performers are taking. My friend did flub his opening trick with a cheeky see-I-told-you and we just laughed it off. He incorporated the audience a lot that night so I thought the stand-up comedy claim was his insurance policy. In his hour-long set he flubbed maybe two or three tricks.
hu3 1y ago
I hope they keep doing live demos. This is much better than prerecorded videos.
pciexpgpu 1y ago
It's an ad network with an attached optional pair of glasses. It's the platform Zuck always wanted to own but never had the vision beyond 'it's an ad platform with some consumer stuff in it'. I am super impressed with the hardware (especially the neural band) but it just so happens that a very pricey car is being directly sold by an oil company as a trojan horse. We all know what the car is for unfortunately. I can't wait to see what Apple has in store now in terms of the hardware.
- autoexec 1y ago
  Someone would have to be dumb to give facebook access to collect data from everything they see and hear in their life combined with the ability to plaster ads over every available surface in their field of view. They'd have to be beyond stupid to pay for it.
  - throwuxiytayq 1y ago
    Don’t look up how many users Meta has if you wish to maintain your sanity
    - cindyllm 1y ago
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- steve-atx-7600 1y ago
  Sad thing is that even those who won’t buy it will have their privacy infringed upon. We’re all Zucked
blinding-streak 1y ago
Everything is always so cringe with Facebook and Zuck. It was always doomed to fail.
- danpalmer 1y ago
  It's because Zuck doesn't actually believe in anything. Zuck's values, politics, and business goals change with the wind so everything that stems from them feels empty, because it's missing the true drive. In contrast, nothing Steve Jobs said felt empty, whether we agreed or disagreed with what he was saying it was clear that he was saying it because he believed it, not because it's what he thought you wanted to hear.
  - DFHippie 1y ago
    As you describe him Zuck sounds very much like the AI he's trying to sell.
  - zer0zzz 1y ago
    Why are you comparing 2000s Steve Jobs to Zuck?
    - danpalmer 1y ago
      Felt like the best example of a true believer. I'd say a similar, but less clear version, would be Dario Amodei vs Sam Altman. I don't agree with either, but Dario comes across as a true believer who would be doing AI regardless of the current trends, whereas Sam comes across as a chancer who would be doing cryptocurrencies if that was still big, or social media if that was still the next big thing, evidenced by the fact that he did both of those but they didn't stick so he moved his focus on. Jobs would have been doing consumer computing hardware whatever happened. Apple in the early days wasn't the success it is now, he was fired and went and started another company in the same space (NeXT).
  - benlivengood 1y ago
    CEOs (and other spokespeople) are actors paid to believe things convincingly in front of other people.
lifthrasiir 1y ago
One important thing to note: demo didn't fail! (Or, at least not in the way people usually think of) > You've already combined the base ingredients, so now grate a pear to add to the sauce. This is actually the correct Korean recipe for bulgogi steak sauce. The only missing piece here is that the pear has to be Pyrus pyrifolia [1], not the usual pear. In fact every single Korean watching the demo was complaining about this... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrus_pyrifolia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrus_pyrifolia
- el_memorioso 1y ago
  Except that he hadn't already combined the base ingredients.
- snypher 1y ago
  Maybe I'm missing something; there was no mention of what base ingredients or how to combine them?!
  - lifthrasiir 1y ago
    In my understanding the demo was halted because of the apparently non-sensical recipe, but I wanted to say that that recipe was indeed correct.
    - degamad 1y ago
      The demo was halted because when the AI was asked how to start, it kept assuming that some of the process was already complete and was jumping to the middle of the process (indicating that it was incorrectly analysing the scene).
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liendolucas 1y ago
LMAO. Billions of dollars for this, seriously? Makes Bill Gates Win95 presentation BSOD fail look professional. And LMAO for all the companies out there burning money for getting on the train of AI just because everyone does so.
jayd16 1y ago
What part is supposed to be prerecorded?
callbacked 1y ago
These demos whether good or bad go in meta's favor I think Successful demo? sweet! people will rave about it for a bit Catastrophic failure? sweet! people will still talk about it and for even longer now!
yodsanklai 1y ago
Yet Meta stock is at all time high
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throwaway13337 1y ago
I don't think it was rigged. Having claude run the browser and then take a screenshot to debug gives similar results. It's why doing so is useless even though it would be so very nice if it worked. Somewhere in the pipeline, they get lazy or ahead of themselves and just interpret what they want to in the picture they see. They want to interpet something working and complete. I can imagine it's related the same issue with LLMs pretending tests work when they don't. They're RL trained for a goal state and sometimes pretending they reached the goal works. It wasn't the wifi - just genAI doing what it does.
- dfedbeef 1y ago
  For tiny stuff, they are incredible auto-complete tools. But they are basically cover bands. They can do things that have been done to death already. They're good for what they're good for. I wouldn't have bet the farm on them.
- 8note 1y ago
  i have a lot of difficulty getting claude to understand arrows in pictures. tried giving it flowcharts, and it fails hard
JCM9 1y ago
This is like something right out of the show Silicon Valley. You couldn’t have scripted a more cringe-worth demo. It’s like they mashed up the AI and metaverse into a dumpster fire of aimless tech product gobodlygook. The AI bubble can’t pop soon enough so we can all just get back to normal programming.
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paxys 1y ago
How exactly is this "AI recording plays before the actor takes the steps"? This place really is Reddit these days, so I guess the link is apt.
kiratp 1y ago
So much negativity. I’m just excited that our industry is lead by optimists and our culture enables our corporations to invest huge sums into taking us forward technologically. Meta could have just done a stock buyback but instead they made a computer that can talk, see, solve problems and paint virtual things into the real world in front of your eyes! I commend them on attempting a live demo.
- qmmmur 1y ago
  But that’s the thing… it’s not a live demo…
  - kiratp 1y ago
    I see no evidence of that. It seems like they tried to put the AI “on rails” with predefined steps and things went wrong.
    - throwuxiytayq 1y ago
      So there was no AI. I know there’s a lot of confusion regarding the exact definition of AI these days, but I’m pretty sure we can this one time all agree that an “on rails” scenario ain’t it. Therefore, whatever it is that they were doing out there, they weren’t demoing their AI product. You could even say it wasn’t a live demo of the product.
      - kiratp 1y ago
        You can put the AI on rails by just prompting by it. The latest models are very steerable. System prompt: “stick to steps 1-n. Step 1 is…” I can say confidently because our company does this. And we have F500 customers in production.
        throwawayoldie 1y ago
        And a Fortune 500 company has never done anything stupid.
Teleoflexuous 1y ago
There's a simple explanation that isn't 'prerecorded'. I'd be very happy to accuse Meta of faking a demo, but that's 1) just a weird way to fake a demo and 2) effect that has easier explanation. You ask AI how to do something. AI generates steps to do that thing. It has concept of steps, so that when you go 'back' it goes back to the last step. As you ask how to do something, it finishes explaining general idea and goes to first step. You interrupt it. It assumes it went through the first step and won't let you go back. The first step here was mixing some sauces. That's it. It's a dumb way to make a tool, but if I wanted to make one that will work for a demo, I'd do that. Have you ever tried any voice thing to guide you through something? Convincing Gemini that something it described didn't happen takes a direct explanation of 'X didn't happen' and doesn't work perfectly. It still didn't work, it absolutely wasn't wi-fi issue and lmao, technology of the future in $2T company, it just doesn't seem rigged.
- timmytokyo 1y ago
  AI: "You've already combined the base ingredients." Except, no. He hadn't.
  - Teleoflexuous 1y ago
    Step 0: You will be making Korean stake. Step 1: Mix those ingredients. Step 2: Now that you mixed those ingredients, do something else. System started doing Step 1, believed it was over so moved to Step 2 and when was asked to go back, kept going back to step 2. Step 1 being Step 0 and Step 1 combined also works. Again, it's also a weird way to prerecord. If you're prerecording, you're prerecording all steps and practicing with them prerecorded. I can't imagine anyone to be able to go through a single rehearsal with prerecorded audio to not figure out how to do this, we have the technology.
  - rsynnott 1y ago
    I mean, that could be easily attributed to, whisper it, ‘AI’ being a bit shit.
- Barbing 1y ago
  I'd figured it performed image recognition on the scene visible to it, then told the language model it could see various ingredients including some combined in a bowl.
jwpapi 1y ago
Maybe it’s the new Silicon Valley trend to fuck up demos so people talk about it more? You know there is no such things as bad publiciity..
johnfn 1y ago
The mocking, gleeful negativity here concerns me. I am worried that with some of these more polarized topics that the discussions on HN are becoming closer to those on Reddit. The fact that the highest upvoted post on this thread is just a link to Reddit isn't doing much to help me feel better. And I've been here for at least a decade, so I don't think this is the noob illusion. I have no illusions about Zuckerberg. He's done some pretty bad stuff for humanity. But I think AI is pretty cool, and I'm glad he's pushing it forward, despite mishaps. People don't have to be black or white, and just because they did something bad in one domain doesn't make everything they touch permanently awful.
- throwuxiytayq 1y ago
  You just don’t seem to understand. Mark wouldn’t hesitate to grind you down to the last atom in order to extract every last bit of value out of you. And you defend the guy because he gave you freebies, or something. I have no words.
  - johnfn 1y ago
    This is exactly the behavior I'm describing.
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  - red_rech 1y ago
    These are the sort of people repeatedly falling for the most obvious scams
- fluoridation 1y ago
  >becoming closer to those on Reddit People are people. If you have two communities that anyone can join, eventually the only difference between them (if any) will be the rules.
- theideaofcoffee 1y ago
  I'm surprised that there isn't more. Everything that this person has touched has made life that much worse for humanity as a whole. He deserves every ounce of criticism and mockery, moreso because he makes himself out to be this savior figure. We should sneer at every attempt at theirs (and other's) awful AI because it's lighting this world on fire. The popping of the bubble cannot come soon enough.
nmilo 1y ago
It's well known Meta AI is shit. But I could probably make an app that can run this demo in an afternoon. The glasses part here is insane and I don't know why everyone is fixated on the tacky AI part. It's like if I invented the car and you complained that it's really hard to crank the windows down. Be happy it's even there!
- I_am_tiberius 1y ago
  Right. I just wonder why nobody talks about the risks of bringing camera based glasses to the masses. This is mass surveillance at its best. Without camera, i would say it's a good phone replacement. But considering they try to make everyone use a camera on the glasses, it's clear they don't care.
- acedTrex 1y ago
  Ya for real, i dont even care about the LLM/AI part. but the hardware looks really cool
- crote 1y ago
  Probably because we've seen goofy-looking AI glasses before. Google Glass was released in 2013, the Snapchat Spectacles date back to 2016. Meta's glasses might be better (at first glance, I honestly can't tell), but they aren't some kind of revolutionary product we have never seen before. The innovative part here is supposed to be the AI demo. That clearly flopped. So what's supposed to be left?
rkagerer 1y ago
Why the bleep do they still rely on wifi at conferences like this?? I always insist on a wired connection on its own, dedicated, presenter vlan. Is this running on wifi-only glasses or something? Is that the only medium they can present the tech on? Could they have shielded the room the guy's in?
- seany 1y ago
  You can say fuck on the Internet. It's fine
evanjrowley 1y ago
This does not deter me from possibly buying one. The concept is pretty cool and appealing to those who want a distraction free lifestyle. Even if there's a screen in front of you at all times, at least you won't need to hold something in your hands to be able to operate it. That alone is a significant win.
- scuff3d 1y ago
  Right, strapping a screen to your face is less distracting then having a device you can turn off and shove in your pocket...
  - evanjrowley 1y ago
    My point is that the device that you keep in your pocket is one that you must take out with your hand and operate with your hand such that you cannot perform its primary functions without using hands. It's true that the Ray-Ban Meta Display can be controlled with hand gestures but doing so is apparently optional. Being able to control and consume content from a smart device while having your hands free to multitask is a big deal. There are so many activities and professions where your hands get dirty and touching a smartphone without washing them would be a bad idea. An auto mechanic could use these glasses to look up information about things they see inside of an engine without having to clean the oil from their hands. A chef could respond to messages about their food delivery without having to drop what they're doing and go sanitize. Anytime I do dirty work outside, I can use this to access smart features without the risk of dirt filling my smartphone case, my smartwatch getting destroyed in a tight situation, or drenching either of them in sweat. Furthermore, a phone (or a smart watch) is not meant to be used at face level, meaning folks typically look down to use them, and this can lead to extended periods of bad posture resulting in head, neck, and spine problems. My X-ray shows I have bone spurs on the vertebrae of my neck because I look down at screens too much (according to my chiropractor). A smart device that's designed to be used in a way that aligns with good posture habits is absolutely needed. I hope smart glasses take off and I commented Meta for taking them this far.
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justinator 1y ago
Deja Vu on this demo -- I've seen this one before, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYsulVXpgYg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYsulVXpgYg
maxlin 1y ago
Give them a break, small indie company
jayd16 1y ago
I do wonder what it will take to replace the default voice command handler. Will it be as locked down as possible or will Meta be happy with any adoption at all?
yieldcrv 1y ago
The interpretation of this is pretty dumb since its not a recording
eviks 1y ago
It's not a fail, but the correct demonstration of the quality of the service
phodo 1y ago
a few moments earlier... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mother_of_All_Demos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mother_of_All_Demos
kovac 1y ago
Forgot to reset the context after a test run? :p
BoredPositron 1y ago
Why is Meta not able to produce one proper keynote in their 21 year history? At this point it must be on purpose just to be relatable or something.
anigbrowl 1y ago
Legs! Part II
rsynnott 1y ago
Thing is, even if this had _worked_, it would still have been, ah, a bit shit. Absolutely farcical.
Jackson__ 1y ago
This appears to be a classic vision fail on the VLM's part. Which is entirely unsurprising for anyone who has used open VLMs for anything except ""benchmarks"" in the past two god damn years. The field is in a truly embarrassing state, where they pride themselves how it can solve equations off a blackboard, yet couldn't even accurately read a d20 dice roll among many other things. I've tried (and failed) to have VLMs accurately caption images for such a long time, yet anytime I check on the output it is blindingly clear that these models are awful at actually _seeing things_.
- Ianjit 1y ago
  5-10 years and Radiologists will be out of a Job, just you wait and see.
duxup 1y ago
I'm sure there were engineers who were "yo guies don't do this it's not ready to show" and ... naw the yes men "won".
ModernMech 1y ago
This is how you know AI will not live up to the hype. You have the highest paid people, at one of the richest companies in the world, building the AI and with unlimited access to the best models and the most talent. And they still can't pull off a keynote. So then... what does AI have to offer me? Because I would have thought, as Sam Altman put it, having an expert PhD level researcher in all subjects in my pocket could maybe help me pull off a tech demo. But if it can't help them, the people who actually made the thing, on their very high stakes public address where everything is on the line, then what's it supposed to do for the rest of us in our daily lives? Because it seems more and more, AI is a tool that helps you stage your own very public humiliation.
racl101 1y ago
The main takeaway for me was: do not interrupt AI while it's giving exposition. No matter how trivial it may seem. It will throw it off-kilter.
steveBK123 1y ago
So much FOMO, hopium and fraud in the space We'll be talking about how obvious it all was 20 years from now

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pera 1y ago

There is a second part that is equally bad, but with Zuck: https://old.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1nkbqyk/zuckerberg_invested_billions_in_new_tech_to_watch/ https://old.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1nkbqyk/...

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fluoridation 1y ago
God, that's actually painful to watch. I can't believe I lasted two minutes.
- sebgan 1y ago
  I was going to say that’s two minutes I won’t get back (and I won’t) but, ya know, schadenfreude.
  - fluoridation 1y ago
    It's kind of like Peep Show, where the writers tried to engineer the most awkward social situations, only without the jokes.
    - chrisweekly 1y ago
      Tangent: if you like cringey social awkwardness comedy (not my usual cup of tea, but in this case it's extraordinary, and hilarious), try "I Think You Should Leave". "Brian's Hat" is the 1st one I saw and maybe the best: https://youtu.be/LO2k-BNySLI?si=qEX7STkSOeCVZtK- https://youtu.be/LO2k-BNySLI?si=qEX7STkSOeCVZtK- Also "Hot Dog Car" https://youtu.be/WLfAf8oHrMo?si=jz5EKwjJZm1UMZau https://youtu.be/WLfAf8oHrMo?si=jz5EKwjJZm1UMZau
      - pixelpoet 1y ago
        Nathan for You is almost physically painful to watch, the cringe is so intense I can only take a few seconds at a time.
        twoodfin 1y ago
        Nathan Fielder is a genius. The Rehearsal is less in-the-moment cringe and more soul-soaking cringe. Amazing stuff.
        ojbyrne 1y ago
        Canadians do it best. https://youtu.be/tXgfzxXUVsc?si=vBXu20TewUldSBJB https://youtu.be/tXgfzxXUVsc?si=vBXu20TewUldSBJB
        ChoGGi 1y ago
        That he certainly is good at, but I loved his interview with Fabio, also that Monica Lewinsky one.
    - trevithick 1y ago
      Also a tangent, but Microsoft was the OG for corporate cringe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cX4t5-YpHQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cX4t5-YpHQ
      - fzzzy 1y ago
        Developers developers developers developers!
        all2 1y ago
        One of the best mashups on youtube came from this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE Enjoy. :)
      - dreamcompiler 1y ago
        Oh my god. How strong does a company's reality distortion field have to be for people to think your friends are going to want to come over to play with a new version of Windows? I mean, why not "Let's all have wine and cheese and do root canals on each other!"?
        Ancapistani 1y ago
        It was a different time. I honestly was excited about Windows 95. Win98 was underwhelming, and WinME was a joke that I never bothered to install on my own machines. Win2K brought back some of the excitement, but not much. Then Vista came out, and it was a total flop at first. Win7 fixed most of those mistakes, but the damage was done. Vista basically killed any chance Microsoft had at building excitement for an OS. FWIW, I think the last macOS version that I was really looking forward to was High Sierra.
        Anamon 1y ago
        Yeah, younger folks don't remember that new operating systems used to be a thing of excitement -- what cool new features will we get? -- and not, like today, a thing of distress -- what did they break this time, and which new ways have they found to piss me off I remember my dad driving us to the local Windows 95 pre-launch event by Microsoft. I was 10 and had learned the ridiculous and useless skills of DOS memory configuration and bootdisk juggling to get all of the games to run. Win95 was so cool! I remember spending hours on the multimedia catalog and demos on the CD-ROM and marvelling at the possibilities.
  - rkagerer 1y ago
    Here's one of my favorites, of Lars doing the Wave dance on stage to ad-lib over connectivity hiccups. For some reason it evoked a lot more empathy from me... https://youtu.be/v_UyVmITiYQ?t=19m35s https://youtu.be/v_UyVmITiYQ?t=19m35s
    - pamelafox 1y ago
      I was on the Wave team! Our servers didn't have enough capacity, we launched too soon. I was managing the developer-facing server for API testing, and I had to slowly let developers in to avoid overwhelming it.
      - rkagerer 1y ago
        <Waves to you> Neat, thanks for sharing this tidbit of history. Hey, what did the team think of the decision to build it on GWT at the time? (From the outside, seemed like an enabling approach but a bit like building an engine and airframe all at once).
        pamelafox 1y ago
        Hm, I didn't work on the frontend but I don't particularly remember griping..GWT had been around for ~5 years at that point, so it wasn't super new: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Web_Toolkit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Web_Toolkit I always personally found it a bit odd, as I preferred straight JS myself, but large companies have to pick some sort of framework for websites, and Google already used Java a fair bit.
      - floren 1y ago
        Wave was extremely cool and I wish it had stuck around. Hope it was as fun for you to work on as it was for us to use.
        pamelafox 1y ago
        It was fun! Now we still see Wave-iness in other products: Google Docs uses the Operational Transforms (OT) algorithm for collab editing (or at least it did, last I knew), and non-Google products like Notion, Quip, Slack, Loop from Microsoft, all have some overlap. We struggled with having too many audiences for Wave - were we targeting consumer or enterprise? email or docs replacement? Too much at once. The APIs were so dang fun though.
- twothreeone 1y ago
  Mark's definitely mastered optimizing for peak cringe factor while at 1.95T valuation.
  - jncfhnb 1y ago
    Obligatory https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eBxTEoseZak https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eBxTEoseZak
    - fluoridation 1y ago
      Good god...
  - zelphirkalt 1y ago
    They just need an emotionless android without conscience, who does whatever is in the best interest of raking in money. They don't need technological excellence. Whether people at his company technologically succeed or fail, what matters is, that the company processes all the PII and feeds the algorithms. The rest is just for show.
    - blibble 1y ago
      they have one in the already in the CEO position
      - throwawayoldie 1y ago
        Not to put words in the OP's mouth, but I think that was the joke.
    - barnabyjones 1y ago
      I think such an emotionless android would have diligently prepared numerous backup scripts, sets of lenses, actors, demonstrations etc. to cover any failure contingency, since the cost of that is infinitesimal compared to even a slight change in their brand value.
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- blibble 1y ago
  robozuck was also having wifi problems
- tdeck 1y ago
  There are such long gaps after each question too. Apparently the sci-fi future will be laggier than expected.
  - jijijijij 1y ago
    This will also not change much, since they want you to use their centralized services for data collection, not local or onsite processing. So you will always have roundtrips and shared resources. For IO this is pretty unacceptable, people get annoyed by millisecond delays.
OJFord 1y ago
Would be good to change the OP link to this - it's the same clip but plus a bit more.
I_am_tiberius 1y ago
I really missed seeing Zuck sweat.
anonymousiam 1y ago
Big tech has spent $155bn on AI this year. It’s about to spend hundreds of billions more https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/aug/02/big-tech-ai-spending https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/aug/02/big-tech-...
- Lu2025 1y ago
  They classify a lot of it as R&D and write it off taxes. Taxpayers foot the bill.
  - trenchpilgrim 1y ago
    "That's not a write off!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCP27_vquxQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCP27_vquxQ
    - anonymars 1y ago
      Obligatory -- "You don't even know what a write-off is. Do you?" https://youtu.be/XEL65gywwHQ https://youtu.be/XEL65gywwHQ
      - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
        Something I like about that scene is Seinfeld (the actor) clearly struggles not to smile at Kramer's delivery of the punch line despite that he (the character) was supposed to be irate with Kramer.
        anonymars 1y ago
        Heh. Well, Kramer himself...was often less amused... Thread/video: https://old.reddit.com/r/television/comments/7lvvg5/michael_richards_getting_constantly_pissed_at_the/ https://old.reddit.com/r/television/comments/7lvvg5/michael_... Probably that's why it feels like half the actual episode takes were like that, because they couldn't keep from breaking!
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pseudosavant 1y ago
As bad as I thought that was going to be, it was worse. And I set the bar very low for anything involving Zuck. #MustWatch
jonplackett 1y ago
This is the best thing I’ve seen ever. It makes me so happy I can’t even tell you.
EFreethought 1y ago
OT, but thanks for linking to old.reddit.com instead of www.reddit.com. The new interface is an abomination.
arduanika 1y ago
"A man's reach should exceed his grasp."
nabla9 1y ago
This is like "The Office" (Original UK version with Ricky Gervais as David Brent) with $2T market cap company.
- mrbonner 1y ago
  There is already Hooli!
theideaofcoffee 1y ago
Every added drop of his flop sweat during this disaster just gives me that much more life. Amazing.
gonyanghn 1y ago
This is what it has come to? This is artificial intelligence? Billions and billions of dollars spent to narrate a recipe? Something that can be written down on a piece of paper?
- throwawayoldie 1y ago
  I have a copy of the classic "Joy Of Cooking" in the kitchen. It was a lot cheaper, works perfectly every time, and doesn't get ruined if (when) I spill foodstuffs on it.
  - johnnienaked 1y ago
    The more you spill, the more the book starts to look delicious
    - throwawayoldie 1y ago
      BRB got a book I have to lick real quick.
- gooob 1y ago
  i always wonder why they choose the stupidest shit for these demos. like, to whom do they think they're advertising this?
  - kolinko 1y ago
    They don’t want to spend 30 min explaining domain knowledge required to understand a certain super specific case. Instead they show tech’s quality on a basic highest common denominator use case and allow people to extrapolate to their cases. Similarly car ads show people going from home to a store (or to mountains). You’re not asking there “but what if I want to go to a cinema with the car”. If it can go to a store, it can go to a cinema, or any other obscure place, as long as there is a similar road getting there.
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gonyanghn 1y ago
Reminds me of Jin Yang and his 8 ways to cook an octopus, on silicon valley: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ltFB4WBdDg4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ltFB4WBdDg4
- uncircle 1y ago
  Funny how VR was the hyped thing when the show was filmed, and today the hype has been replaced wholesale by AI. Also funny how Meta has been trying to capitalise on both things.
jimmydoe 1y ago
If not for these epic failures, I won’t even know they had a demo. Guess neg marketing is still marketing, it worked.
rapind 1y ago
In fairness to Zuck, he spends most of his time hunting with his crossbow these days.
- Anamon 1y ago
  What brand of gear does he use?

jjbinx007 1y ago

This is like a Black Mirror episode. Also, is it a conscious decision to make the TTS sound so robotic?

blinding-streak 1y ago
Maybe it's modeled on Zuck's robotic voice

josefritzishere 1y ago

AI is hot trash. When will this river of garbage stop?

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- mattigames 1y ago
  That sounds a bit too much like "this is good for Bitcoin"
  - zer0zzz 1y ago
    Your vague-posting and straw man arguments are not very good.
- johnnienaked 1y ago
  What, pray tell, is the AI argument?
autoexec 1y ago
When billionaires stop fantasizing about AI allowing them to rid themselves of the filthy peasant class which keeps feeling entitled to take even the smallest fraction of their income from them just because they're also doing all the actual work that makes that income possible. What passes for AI is just good enough to keep the dream alive and even while its usefulness isn't manifesting in reality they still have a deluge of comforting promises to soothe themselves back to sleep with. Eventually all the sweet whispers of "AGI is right around the corner!" or "Replace your pesky employees soon!" will be drowned out by the realization that no amount of money or environmental collateral damage thrown at the problem will make them gods, but until then they just need all of your data, your water, and 10-15 more years.

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timpera 1y ago

The failures on stage were kind of endearing, to be honest, especially the one with Zuck. Plus the products seem really cool, I hope I'll be able to try them out soon.

zer0zzz 1y ago
Yeah. I’m impressed we have any sort of wave guide display on sale commercially this year.
jaccola 1y ago
Zuckerberg has negative charisma, it's painful to watch... Jobs handled this so much better; while clearly he is pissed, he doesn't leave you cringing in mutual embarrassment, goes to show it isn't as easy as he makes it look! See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M4t14s7nSM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M4t14s7nSM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znxQOPFg2mo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znxQOPFg2mo
- rhetocj23 1y ago
  Jobs was one of a kind. He had that aura that Bill G et al envied. He admitted so in a video that can be found on YT.
  - throw-the-towel 1y ago
    Yet even Bill G handled public failure better than Zuck: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jGwy4sb9aO8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jGwy4sb9aO8
    - rhetocj23 1y ago
      I mean Bill wasnt figuring out how to get back at girls that rejected him in college lol. Zuck carries that energy no matter what he does nor what amount of wealth he amasses.
    - asadm 1y ago
      that clip reminds me of how Sundar reacts to these things.

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ryandrake 1y ago

I love how they randomly blame the WiFi network, like anyone is going to buy it.

jerlam 1y ago
It's almost certainly a joke. Everyone knows that the demo failed.
- rgovostes 1y ago
  A reference to the 2010 iPhone 4 demo perhaps: https://www.infoworld.com/article/2297843/steve-jobs-wi-fi-meltdown-at-wwdc.html https://www.infoworld.com/article/2297843/steve-jobs-wi-fi-m...
- AstroBen 1y ago
  Maybe but it really didnt read like a joke..
- mupuff1234 1y ago
  Certainly didnt seem like a joke.
  - dxxmxnd 1y ago
    Its definitely a joke. They were saying it again when the WhatsApp call failed. They were being sarcastic.
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Reason077 1y ago
Bad idea to rely on WiFi for an important demo in a crowded environment. It would have worked fine in testing but when the crowd arrives and they all start streaming etc, they bring hundreds more devices all competing for bandwidth. Zuck should have known better and used Ethernet for this one!

skhameneh 1y ago

As much as it'll be "interesting" to see how models behave in real world examples (presumably similarly to how the demos went), I'm not convinced this is a premade recording like what seems to be implied. I'm imagining this is an incomplete flow within a software prototype that may have jumped steps and lacks sufficient multi-modal capability to correct. It could also be staged recordings. But, I don't think it really matters. Models are easily capable of working with the setup and flow they have for the demo. It's real world accuracy, latency, convenience, and other factors that will impact actual users the most. What's the reliability and latency needed for these to be a useful tool? For example, I can't imagine many people wanting to use the gesture writing tools for most messages. It's cool, I like that it was developed, but I doubt it'll see substantial adoption with what's currently being pitched.

dabbz 1y ago
Yea the behavior of the AI read to me more like a hard coded demo but still very much "live". I suspect him cutting it off was poorly timed and that timing could have amplified due to WiFi? Who knows. I wasn't there. I didn't build it.
- YeahThisIsMe 1y ago
  So the live demo failed?
  - dabbz 1y ago
    I was more clarifying my own hypothesis on what level of "live" this demo was, more so than explaining away the failure mechanics.

reader9274 1y ago

Should've downloaded more ram for the wifi to work better

sampton 1y ago

I bet they rehearsed a dozen times and never failed as bad live. Got to give them props for keeping the live demos. Apple has neutered its demos so much it's now basically 2 hr long commercials.

donkyrf 1y ago
The new Apple presentations are much more information dense, and tailored to the main (online) audience. They’re clearly better.
- sampton 1y ago
  More dense but less trust worthy. I don't think they would have pushed apple intelligence the way they did if there was a live demo.
  - crooked-v 1y ago
    Live Apple demos were always held together with duct tape in the first place. That first "live" iPhone demo had a memorized sequence that Jobs needed to use to keep the whole phone OS from hard crashing.
    - suriya-ganesh 1y ago
      Even with that, Live demos are incredibly more better than hour long demos.
      - kridsdale3 1y ago
        They also force the developers to make it work, under threat of being fired, and in the ire of Steve Jobs case, being yeeted in to the sun along with their ancestors and descendents.
    - ajcp 1y ago
      During that first iPhone demo they also had a portable cell tower (cell on wheels) just off-stage to mimic a better signal strength than it was capable of. NYTimes write-up on the whole thing is worth the read [0]. 0.https://web.archive.org/web/20250310045704/https://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/06/magazine/and-then-steve-said-let-there-be-an-iphone.html https://web.archive.org/web/20250310045704/https://www.nytim...

self_awareness 1y ago

Those WiFi's man, they're always trouble

watersb 1y ago

Never work with children, animals, and puppets. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NeverWorkWithChildrenOrAnimals#:~:text=Jim%20Henson%20states%20that%20he'd%20been%20told%20never%20to%20work%20with%20children%2C%20animals%2C%20or%20puppets. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NeverWorkWithChi...

flux3125 1y ago
and AI

alangibson 1y ago

That wasn't prerecorded, but it was rigged. They probably practiced a few times and it confused the AI. Still it's no excuse. They've dropped Apollo-program level money on this and it's still dumb as a rock. I'm endless amazed that Meta has a ~2T market cap, yet they can't build products.

johnnyanmac 1y ago
At this point, honesty is an oasis that is the 2025 year of scams and grifts. I'm just waiting for all the bubbles to pop.
- fullshark 1y ago
  It's been this way since natural internet user base growth dried up
  - johnnyanmac 1y ago
    True. We at least had a period where they weren't so blatant about it. But now it's robbery in blind daylight.
privatelypublic 1y ago
Well, it _IS_ a rock after all.
smelendez 1y ago
That was my thought — the memory might not have been properly cleared from the last rehearsal. I found the use case honestly confusing though. This guy has a great kitchen, just made steak, and has all the relevant ingredients in house and laid out but no idea how to turn them into a sauce for his sandwich?
- pessimizer 1y ago
  Yes. Even if the demo worked perfectly, it's hopelessly contrived. Just get text-to-speech to slowly read you the recipe.

MattDaEskimo 1y ago

More than likely the full response was kept as context despite being interrupted. Notably though, the AI was clearly not utilizing its visual feed to work alongside him as implied

nba456_ 1y ago

still better than the pre-taped apple events. happy to see these products in action

AdmiralAsshat 1y ago

The Kotaku article on this had a really nice final zinger[0]: > Oh, and here’s Jack Mancuso making a Korean-inspired steak sauce in 2023. > https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cn248pLDoZY/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_mid=61BD3E2F-D5FE-4872-A73D-98F049C7DEA7 https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cn248pLDoZY/?utm_source=ig_em... 0: https://kotaku.com/meta-ai-mark-zuckerberg-korean-steak-sauce-facebook-2000626808 https://kotaku.com/meta-ai-mark-zuckerberg-korean-steak-sauc...

Yizahi 1y ago
And the whole pear in the recipe situation was also hilarious :)
- csa 1y ago
  > And the whole pear in the recipe situation was also hilarious The fact that the pear was in the recipe, or that the AI didn’t handle that situation around the pear well? Asian pears are a common ingredient in beef marinades/sauces in Korea. It adds sweetness and (iirc) helps tenderize the meat when in a marinade.
  - Yizahi 1y ago
    I mean that the recipes for this sauce on the internet have pear as an ingredient and LLM also assumed this, but there was no pear present on a table, so LLM didn't take into account visual data and assumed pear is there too. Which is funny since it was the whole point of the presentation, querying LLM for whatever text in text or voice only mode is nothing new today.

patrickhogan1 1y ago

Credit where it’s due: doing live demos is hard. Yesterday didn’t feel staged—it looked like the classic “last-minute tweak, unexpected break.” Most builders have been there. I certainly have (I once spent 6 hours at a hackathon and broke the Flask server keying in a last minute change on the steps of the stage before going on).

axblount 1y ago
Live demos are especially hard when you're selling snake oil.
- steve-atx-7600 1y ago
  Yeah. Everyone wants to be like Steve but forgets that he usually had something amazing to show off.
  - OsrsNeedsf2P 1y ago
    Didn't Steve flip through 3 iPhones and hardcode the network UI to look like they had good signal?
    - nwallin 1y ago
      One of the demos was printing a thing out, but the processor was hopelessly too slow to perform the actual print job. So they hand unrolled all the code to get it down from something like a 30 minute print job to a 30 second print job. I think at this point it should be expected that every publicly facing demo (and most internal ones) are staged.
  - scuff3d 1y ago
    He faked shit all the time. He just faked it well and actually delivered later.
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yallpendantools 1y ago

I have a friend who does magic shows. He sells his shows as magic and stand-up comedy. It's both live entertainment, okay, but he is the only person I've ever seen use that tagline. We went to see him perform once and everything became clear when he opened the night. "This is supposed to be a magic show," he told us. "But if my tricks fail you can laugh at it and we'll just do stand-up comedy." Zuck, for a modest and totally-reasonable fee, I will introduce you to my friend. You can add his tricks (wink wink) to your newly-assembled repertoire of human charisma.

monooso 1y ago
If your friend isn't already aware of Tommy Cooper [1], he's in for a treat. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Cooper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Cooper
- Poomba 1y ago
  He was so funny, people laughed when he died!
fluoridation 1y ago
So, wait, is he just a shitty magician and a funny guy, or does he fail on purpose?
- whoisthemachine 1y ago
  The AI, or this person's friend?
  - fluoridation 1y ago
    The friend.
- yallpendantools 1y ago
  Haha. I honestly don't know. Which makes him...a great entertainer at least? The show was a real good time though. Take this with lots of salt but I read somewhere that circus shows "fail" at least one jump to help sell to the audience the risk the performers are taking. My friend did flub his opening trick with a cheeky see-I-told-you and we just laughed it off. He incorporated the audience a lot that night so I thought the stand-up comedy claim was his insurance policy. In his hour-long set he flubbed maybe two or three tricks.

hu3 1y ago

I hope they keep doing live demos. This is much better than prerecorded videos.

pciexpgpu 1y ago

It's an ad network with an attached optional pair of glasses. It's the platform Zuck always wanted to own but never had the vision beyond 'it's an ad platform with some consumer stuff in it'. I am super impressed with the hardware (especially the neural band) but it just so happens that a very pricey car is being directly sold by an oil company as a trojan horse. We all know what the car is for unfortunately. I can't wait to see what Apple has in store now in terms of the hardware.

autoexec 1y ago
Someone would have to be dumb to give facebook access to collect data from everything they see and hear in their life combined with the ability to plaster ads over every available surface in their field of view. They'd have to be beyond stupid to pay for it.
- throwuxiytayq 1y ago
  Don’t look up how many users Meta has if you wish to maintain your sanity
  - cindyllm 1y ago
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steve-atx-7600 1y ago
Sad thing is that even those who won’t buy it will have their privacy infringed upon. We’re all Zucked

blinding-streak 1y ago

Everything is always so cringe with Facebook and Zuck. It was always doomed to fail.

danpalmer 1y ago
It's because Zuck doesn't actually believe in anything. Zuck's values, politics, and business goals change with the wind so everything that stems from them feels empty, because it's missing the true drive. In contrast, nothing Steve Jobs said felt empty, whether we agreed or disagreed with what he was saying it was clear that he was saying it because he believed it, not because it's what he thought you wanted to hear.
- DFHippie 1y ago
  As you describe him Zuck sounds very much like the AI he's trying to sell.
- zer0zzz 1y ago
  Why are you comparing 2000s Steve Jobs to Zuck?
  - danpalmer 1y ago
    Felt like the best example of a true believer. I'd say a similar, but less clear version, would be Dario Amodei vs Sam Altman. I don't agree with either, but Dario comes across as a true believer who would be doing AI regardless of the current trends, whereas Sam comes across as a chancer who would be doing cryptocurrencies if that was still big, or social media if that was still the next big thing, evidenced by the fact that he did both of those but they didn't stick so he moved his focus on. Jobs would have been doing consumer computing hardware whatever happened. Apple in the early days wasn't the success it is now, he was fired and went and started another company in the same space (NeXT).
- benlivengood 1y ago
  CEOs (and other spokespeople) are actors paid to believe things convincingly in front of other people.

lifthrasiir 1y ago

One important thing to note: demo didn't fail! (Or, at least not in the way people usually think of) > You've already combined the base ingredients, so now grate a pear to add to the sauce. This is actually the correct Korean recipe for bulgogi steak sauce. The only missing piece here is that the pear has to be Pyrus pyrifolia [1], not the usual pear. In fact every single Korean watching the demo was complaining about this... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrus_pyrifolia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrus_pyrifolia

el_memorioso 1y ago
Except that he hadn't already combined the base ingredients.
snypher 1y ago
Maybe I'm missing something; there was no mention of what base ingredients or how to combine them?!
- lifthrasiir 1y ago
  In my understanding the demo was halted because of the apparently non-sensical recipe, but I wanted to say that that recipe was indeed correct.
  - degamad 1y ago
    The demo was halted because when the AI was asked how to start, it kept assuming that some of the process was already complete and was jumping to the middle of the process (indicating that it was incorrectly analysing the scene).
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liendolucas 1y ago

LMAO. Billions of dollars for this, seriously? Makes Bill Gates Win95 presentation BSOD fail look professional. And LMAO for all the companies out there burning money for getting on the train of AI just because everyone does so.

jayd16 1y ago

What part is supposed to be prerecorded?

callbacked 1y ago

These demos whether good or bad go in meta's favor I think Successful demo? sweet! people will rave about it for a bit Catastrophic failure? sweet! people will still talk about it and for even longer now!

yodsanklai 1y ago

Yet Meta stock is at all time high

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throwaway13337 1y ago

I don't think it was rigged. Having claude run the browser and then take a screenshot to debug gives similar results. It's why doing so is useless even though it would be so very nice if it worked. Somewhere in the pipeline, they get lazy or ahead of themselves and just interpret what they want to in the picture they see. They want to interpet something working and complete. I can imagine it's related the same issue with LLMs pretending tests work when they don't. They're RL trained for a goal state and sometimes pretending they reached the goal works. It wasn't the wifi - just genAI doing what it does.

dfedbeef 1y ago
For tiny stuff, they are incredible auto-complete tools. But they are basically cover bands. They can do things that have been done to death already. They're good for what they're good for. I wouldn't have bet the farm on them.
8note 1y ago
i have a lot of difficulty getting claude to understand arrows in pictures. tried giving it flowcharts, and it fails hard

JCM9 1y ago

This is like something right out of the show Silicon Valley. You couldn’t have scripted a more cringe-worth demo. It’s like they mashed up the AI and metaverse into a dumpster fire of aimless tech product gobodlygook. The AI bubble can’t pop soon enough so we can all just get back to normal programming.

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paxys 1y ago

How exactly is this "AI recording plays before the actor takes the steps"? This place really is Reddit these days, so I guess the link is apt.

kiratp 1y ago

So much negativity. I’m just excited that our industry is lead by optimists and our culture enables our corporations to invest huge sums into taking us forward technologically. Meta could have just done a stock buyback but instead they made a computer that can talk, see, solve problems and paint virtual things into the real world in front of your eyes! I commend them on attempting a live demo.

qmmmur 1y ago
But that’s the thing… it’s not a live demo…
- kiratp 1y ago
  I see no evidence of that. It seems like they tried to put the AI “on rails” with predefined steps and things went wrong.
  - throwuxiytayq 1y ago
    So there was no AI. I know there’s a lot of confusion regarding the exact definition of AI these days, but I’m pretty sure we can this one time all agree that an “on rails” scenario ain’t it. Therefore, whatever it is that they were doing out there, they weren’t demoing their AI product. You could even say it wasn’t a live demo of the product.
    - kiratp 1y ago
      You can put the AI on rails by just prompting by it. The latest models are very steerable. System prompt: “stick to steps 1-n. Step 1 is…” I can say confidently because our company does this. And we have F500 customers in production.
      - throwawayoldie 1y ago
        And a Fortune 500 company has never done anything stupid.

Teleoflexuous 1y ago

There's a simple explanation that isn't 'prerecorded'. I'd be very happy to accuse Meta of faking a demo, but that's 1) just a weird way to fake a demo and 2) effect that has easier explanation. You ask AI how to do something. AI generates steps to do that thing. It has concept of steps, so that when you go 'back' it goes back to the last step. As you ask how to do something, it finishes explaining general idea and goes to first step. You interrupt it. It assumes it went through the first step and won't let you go back. The first step here was mixing some sauces. That's it. It's a dumb way to make a tool, but if I wanted to make one that will work for a demo, I'd do that. Have you ever tried any voice thing to guide you through something? Convincing Gemini that something it described didn't happen takes a direct explanation of 'X didn't happen' and doesn't work perfectly. It still didn't work, it absolutely wasn't wi-fi issue and lmao, technology of the future in $2T company, it just doesn't seem rigged.

timmytokyo 1y ago
AI: "You've already combined the base ingredients." Except, no. He hadn't.
- Teleoflexuous 1y ago
  Step 0: You will be making Korean stake. Step 1: Mix those ingredients. Step 2: Now that you mixed those ingredients, do something else. System started doing Step 1, believed it was over so moved to Step 2 and when was asked to go back, kept going back to step 2. Step 1 being Step 0 and Step 1 combined also works. Again, it's also a weird way to prerecord. If you're prerecording, you're prerecording all steps and practicing with them prerecorded. I can't imagine anyone to be able to go through a single rehearsal with prerecorded audio to not figure out how to do this, we have the technology.
- rsynnott 1y ago
  I mean, that could be easily attributed to, whisper it, ‘AI’ being a bit shit.
Barbing 1y ago
I'd figured it performed image recognition on the scene visible to it, then told the language model it could see various ingredients including some combined in a bowl.

jwpapi 1y ago

Maybe it’s the new Silicon Valley trend to fuck up demos so people talk about it more? You know there is no such things as bad publiciity..

johnfn 1y ago

The mocking, gleeful negativity here concerns me. I am worried that with some of these more polarized topics that the discussions on HN are becoming closer to those on Reddit. The fact that the highest upvoted post on this thread is just a link to Reddit isn't doing much to help me feel better. And I've been here for at least a decade, so I don't think this is the noob illusion. I have no illusions about Zuckerberg. He's done some pretty bad stuff for humanity. But I think AI is pretty cool, and I'm glad he's pushing it forward, despite mishaps. People don't have to be black or white, and just because they did something bad in one domain doesn't make everything they touch permanently awful.

throwuxiytayq 1y ago
You just don’t seem to understand. Mark wouldn’t hesitate to grind you down to the last atom in order to extract every last bit of value out of you. And you defend the guy because he gave you freebies, or something. I have no words.
- johnfn 1y ago
  This is exactly the behavior I'm describing.
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- red_rech 1y ago
  These are the sort of people repeatedly falling for the most obvious scams
fluoridation 1y ago
>becoming closer to those on Reddit People are people. If you have two communities that anyone can join, eventually the only difference between them (if any) will be the rules.
theideaofcoffee 1y ago
I'm surprised that there isn't more. Everything that this person has touched has made life that much worse for humanity as a whole. He deserves every ounce of criticism and mockery, moreso because he makes himself out to be this savior figure. We should sneer at every attempt at theirs (and other's) awful AI because it's lighting this world on fire. The popping of the bubble cannot come soon enough.

nmilo 1y ago

It's well known Meta AI is shit. But I could probably make an app that can run this demo in an afternoon. The glasses part here is insane and I don't know why everyone is fixated on the tacky AI part. It's like if I invented the car and you complained that it's really hard to crank the windows down. Be happy it's even there!

I_am_tiberius 1y ago
Right. I just wonder why nobody talks about the risks of bringing camera based glasses to the masses. This is mass surveillance at its best. Without camera, i would say it's a good phone replacement. But considering they try to make everyone use a camera on the glasses, it's clear they don't care.
acedTrex 1y ago
Ya for real, i dont even care about the LLM/AI part. but the hardware looks really cool
crote 1y ago
Probably because we've seen goofy-looking AI glasses before. Google Glass was released in 2013, the Snapchat Spectacles date back to 2016. Meta's glasses might be better (at first glance, I honestly can't tell), but they aren't some kind of revolutionary product we have never seen before. The innovative part here is supposed to be the AI demo. That clearly flopped. So what's supposed to be left?

rkagerer 1y ago

Why the bleep do they still rely on wifi at conferences like this?? I always insist on a wired connection on its own, dedicated, presenter vlan. Is this running on wifi-only glasses or something? Is that the only medium they can present the tech on? Could they have shielded the room the guy's in?

seany 1y ago
You can say fuck on the Internet. It's fine

evanjrowley 1y ago

This does not deter me from possibly buying one. The concept is pretty cool and appealing to those who want a distraction free lifestyle. Even if there's a screen in front of you at all times, at least you won't need to hold something in your hands to be able to operate it. That alone is a significant win.

scuff3d 1y ago
Right, strapping a screen to your face is less distracting then having a device you can turn off and shove in your pocket...
- evanjrowley 1y ago
  My point is that the device that you keep in your pocket is one that you must take out with your hand and operate with your hand such that you cannot perform its primary functions without using hands. It's true that the Ray-Ban Meta Display can be controlled with hand gestures but doing so is apparently optional. Being able to control and consume content from a smart device while having your hands free to multitask is a big deal. There are so many activities and professions where your hands get dirty and touching a smartphone without washing them would be a bad idea. An auto mechanic could use these glasses to look up information about things they see inside of an engine without having to clean the oil from their hands. A chef could respond to messages about their food delivery without having to drop what they're doing and go sanitize. Anytime I do dirty work outside, I can use this to access smart features without the risk of dirt filling my smartphone case, my smartwatch getting destroyed in a tight situation, or drenching either of them in sweat. Furthermore, a phone (or a smart watch) is not meant to be used at face level, meaning folks typically look down to use them, and this can lead to extended periods of bad posture resulting in head, neck, and spine problems. My X-ray shows I have bone spurs on the vertebrae of my neck because I look down at screens too much (according to my chiropractor). A smart device that's designed to be used in a way that aligns with good posture habits is absolutely needed. I hope smart glasses take off and I commented Meta for taking them this far.
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justinator 1y ago

Deja Vu on this demo -- I've seen this one before, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYsulVXpgYg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYsulVXpgYg

maxlin 1y ago

Give them a break, small indie company

jayd16 1y ago

I do wonder what it will take to replace the default voice command handler. Will it be as locked down as possible or will Meta be happy with any adoption at all?

yieldcrv 1y ago

The interpretation of this is pretty dumb since its not a recording

eviks 1y ago

It's not a fail, but the correct demonstration of the quality of the service

phodo 1y ago

a few moments earlier... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mother_of_All_Demos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mother_of_All_Demos

kovac 1y ago

Forgot to reset the context after a test run? :p

BoredPositron 1y ago

Why is Meta not able to produce one proper keynote in their 21 year history? At this point it must be on purpose just to be relatable or something.

anigbrowl 1y ago

Legs! Part II

rsynnott 1y ago

Thing is, even if this had _worked_, it would still have been, ah, a bit shit. Absolutely farcical.

Jackson__ 1y ago

This appears to be a classic vision fail on the VLM's part. Which is entirely unsurprising for anyone who has used open VLMs for anything except ""benchmarks"" in the past two god damn years. The field is in a truly embarrassing state, where they pride themselves how it can solve equations off a blackboard, yet couldn't even accurately read a d20 dice roll among many other things. I've tried (and failed) to have VLMs accurately caption images for such a long time, yet anytime I check on the output it is blindingly clear that these models are awful at actually _seeing things_.

Ianjit 1y ago
5-10 years and Radiologists will be out of a Job, just you wait and see.

duxup 1y ago

I'm sure there were engineers who were "yo guies don't do this it's not ready to show" and ... naw the yes men "won".

ModernMech 1y ago

This is how you know AI will not live up to the hype. You have the highest paid people, at one of the richest companies in the world, building the AI and with unlimited access to the best models and the most talent. And they still can't pull off a keynote. So then... what does AI have to offer me? Because I would have thought, as Sam Altman put it, having an expert PhD level researcher in all subjects in my pocket could maybe help me pull off a tech demo. But if it can't help them, the people who actually made the thing, on their very high stakes public address where everything is on the line, then what's it supposed to do for the rest of us in our daily lives? Because it seems more and more, AI is a tool that helps you stage your own very public humiliation.

racl101 1y ago

The main takeaway for me was: do not interrupt AI while it's giving exposition. No matter how trivial it may seem. It will throw it off-kilter.

steveBK123 1y ago

So much FOMO, hopium and fraud in the space We'll be talking about how obvious it all was 20 years from now