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Yemeni Coffee Shops in Texas
- m463 2y agoI've noticed this becoming popular, but funny enough they don't do decaf.
- thisislife2 2y agoI think decaf is a very "American" specific thing? Haven't really seen it in Asia or Middle East.
- m463 2y agoUncertain, but it might be useful for a coffee place open at night :)
- sam29681749 2y agoLots of places have decaf in Korea.
- skissane 2y agoMajority of cafes in Australia offer it. I don't think that many people order it, but enough for them to keep it available.
- seany 2y agoNever seen it in Africa, other than transit hubs with westerners.
- nemo44x 2y agoYeah wouldn’t want it on your menu in….America?
- accurrent 2y agoIts pretty common where I live in Asia. Most people here dont particularly like the idea of caffeine at night, although late night coffee is rare where I live.
- elashri 2y agoYemeni Coffee [1] is very special and unique coffee. and decaf is very American thing. [1] https://cornercoffeestore.com/yemen-coffee/ https://cornercoffeestore.com/yemen-coffee/
- petesergeant 2y ago> decaf is very American thing This is not true. The American's didn't come up with it, the Americans don't drink the most of it per-capita[*], and the Americans don't drink that much of it. It would be fair to say "decaf is a rich country thing", though. [*] although in absolute terms, they import more of it than any other single country, but there's a lot of them
- elashri 2y agoI meant American in the sense that is is consumed so much by Americans. And yes it is also related to economy and many places you will find barely any shop that will offer that. That is not the case in the US. edit: I feel like I was ignorant about this and my assumption was wrong and not based on facts. sorry about that.
- petesergeant 2y ago> That is not the case in the US Indeed, American abundance is legendary https://s.hdnux.com/photos/27/30/53/6130392/6/960x0.webp https://s.hdnux.com/photos/27/30/53/6130392/6/960x0.webp
- jack_pp 2y agoidk in Romania you have decaf almost everywhere but I've heard we have a lot of (specialty) coffee shops so maybe we're the outlier
- Scoundreller 2y agoI miss “5 to go”s everywhere. Probably too chain-y but was pretty sweet.
- benatkin 2y agoDepends on if they have a menu that is a superset of the standard coffee shop fare or not. This one in SoMa unsurprisingly has decaf, in the form of espresso, because they want to be ready for their foot traffic. https://delahcoffee.com/ https://delahcoffee.com/
- bsnnkv 2y agoI'm definitely the target audience for alcohol-free spaces that open late - hopefully this makes its way to the PNW!
- carabiner 2y agoSeattle is an 8 pm city. I'd love for anything to be open late here.
- IG_Semmelweiss 2y agoCovid wiped out a lot of 24 hour spots in all the big metro markets. Revenue halted overnight, and often turned negative with breakins and general insecurity
- SoftTalker 2y agoEmployees also realized that being home at night is nice and they refuse to go back to working 24x7.
- PaulHoule 2y agoIthaca used to have 24 hour businesses but since the pandemic and the 10x-ing of the homeless colony they are long gone.
- wrl 2y agoHow does homelessness relate at all?
- nemomarx 2y agoSimilar to public bathrooms - if a business is open 24 hours and you can stick around in there in the heated / cooled interior that's good for the homeless person, but maybe bad for loitering or the business. I can't imagine a business closing over it, but having a closing time is a good way to get people to leave maybe?
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- alephnerd 2y agoIt's the only silver lining about the Yemeni Civil War. There is a fairly large Yemeni American population now due to displacement from the war. There's a fairly large community in SF in Tendernob near the Yemeni consulate and the Yemeni mosque. Highly recommend trying the Masoob and Mandi at Yemen Kitchen in Tenderloin.
- roughly 2y agoHuh, I hadn’t drawn that connection - I’d noticed a bunch of new Yemeni shops opening, but I hadn’t tied it to the civil war. That makes sense.
- criddell 2y agoThe podcast Search Engine did an episode trying to get to the bottom of why there are so many illegal weed stores in NYC. Turns out a significant percentage are run by Yemeni Americans. I’ve always wondered how that came to be but never considered that the war could have something to do with it. I wonder if that’s the case?
- lordofgibbons 2y agoI like to try out a lot of different dishes from different countries and recently tried Yemeni Mandi... WOW, it might just be my new favorite dish!
- cess11 2y agoWhat do you mean, "Civil War"? Yemen is occupied by UAE and likely Israel, has been at war with the US and Saudi Arabia for a decade or so, and before that on and off been managed by puppet regimes since they kicked out the british.
- tptacek 2y agoYemen is not occupied by Israel. Yemen is in fact in the midst (the end stages, really) of a civil war, between a corrupt preexisting government that ostensibly represented the Sunni majority of the country, and rebels led by the supremacist group Ansar Allah, which represents minority a Zaydi Shia sect.
- jcul 2y agoI used to go to a late night coffee shop in Dublin sometimes when I lived there and read a book. Was a really nice space with comfortable couches and good ambient music. Couldn't remember the name but managed to find a reference to it, it was called Accents. Seems like it's shutdown now.
- shihab 2y agoFirst part is true here in Michigan too. Wish they stayed open late.
- cbxjksls 2y agoI wonder how significant of a source of revenue the coffee shops are for Yemen, both from bean exports and remittances from immigrants.
- asadm 2y agoI def love this trend. There are a few in Bay area too, check out Qamaria in fremont.
- JohnMakin 2y agoMy active hours are typically very early AM, 2-4AM, until 10AM, and there is definitely a space for this in the market for individuals that just want a place to relax and/or work outside of their home outside of normal working hours. Starbucks used to fill this niche where I lived (they would open at 3,4AM to accommodate students in the area trying to study for finals. Nowadays, most of these starbucks/coffee shops have closed or shifted to an in-store hostile setup of a drive through plus a lobby that is mostly intended for delivery drivers, walled off laptop plugs and won't tell you why, removed all charging stations, and just generally made it a shitty experience to sit inside and do anything at all other than get the hell out. This is almost universal now where i live, a college town with multiple colleges, and I wouldn't even begin to tell you where to find a coffee shop where I could gather with 3-4 other grad students and bang some crazy project out in a few hours anymore, and I have many, many big colleges near me. There's a demand the market isn't meeting, but, that demand didn't rake in the most dollars so here we are and this is some kind of novelty. These kinds of spaces existed basically everywhere in my area circa 2012-2018. They weren't tied to any particular ethnicity, just was a need people apparently had.
- brightball 2y agoWaffle House is 24 hours and potentially comes with great stories.
- duskwuff 2y agoGreat stories? Sure, I suppose. Not the kind that tend to be conducive to a productive work environment, though.
- sureglymop 2y agoIn general, do you really get work done in a coffee shop or any kind of public place like that? I find myself needing a very quiet and orderly environment if I really want to deeply focus and get work done.
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- guyfromfargo 2y agoI wrote the entire 2nd version of my SaaS between midnight and 6am at a coffee shop in Austin. It was so peaceful to crack open an IDE, and sip on a hot cup of coffee at midnight, and code until I could barely keep my eyes open. Unfortunately Covid completely destroyed all of these spots. I’m really excited these are making a come back.
- usefulcat 2y agoEpoch is still around, pretty sure it's still 24/7 too (the original location, that is). Flightpath is even older (it was in the flight path of the old airport), though not 24 hour.
- ilaksh 2y agohttps://archive.is/mW3GN https://archive.is/mW3GN
- Jarwain 2y agoIn Florida there's this growing trend of kava bars filling a similar niche. Alcohol-free spaces open late serving up kava, kratom, and other teas!
- rcdemski 2y agoDenver as well. A handful of the florida locations have their second home here. It’s an interesting crowd compared to a bar. Social and very chill.
- steezeburger 2y agoKratom has really bad withdrawals
- Jarwain 2y agoI'm not going to say it doesn't, because I've heard that too. But it also depends on how much you drink in a night and how frequently you do so. Personally I don't think I've experienced kratom withdrawal despite daily use for a couple years back when I lived in Florida. I personally prefer it to alcohol. Buuut everyone's different, and no substance is without risks.
- ilaksh 2y agoAre coffee shops just the answer to having social spaces that aren't alcohol fueled like bars and clubs? For quite a while I have had a rough idea that there could be something along the lines of a bar but with no alcohol and some kind of structured activities for breaking the ice.
- Clubber 2y agoYes, coffee bars were popular back in the 1990s. One of my CS professors opened one up. In "Friends," they often go to a coffee bar. They had couches and comfy chairs to chill in. You just went there and had coffee and hung out. These were mom and pop shops and probably all got eaten up by corporate behemoths like Starbucks. Just goes to show, when a company goes public, you are no longer the customer, the shareholders are.
- lotsofpulp 2y ago>Just goes to show, when a company goes public, you are no longer the customer, the shareholders are. I read the same sentiment about when publicly listed companies go private.
- Clubber 2y agoYes I should have said, "has outside investors," or "institutional investors." It would have fit better. PE companies seem even worse. I often see them take a known brand, cut quality, jack up the prices and bleed the company dry. https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/private-equity-rolled-red-lobster-rcna153397 https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/private-equity-rol...
- FilosofumRex 2y agoDon't forget the evil university endowments flying under the radar of non-profits. They destroy local shops & economy by replacing them with either for profit corporate tenants who can pay exuberant rents, or worse, empty, abandoned, desolate buildings with exuberant mark-to-model real estate values. Harvard and Kendall Squares in Cambridge, MA are the best examples of what ruthless endowments do. Kendall Square is entirely owned by MIT and is new shiny and totally unaffordable to non-VC/PE crowd and shuts down after dark. Harvard Square is replete with empty buildings worth billions on HMC's books. The late night 2-story Starbucks with lots of seating and occasional live music is gone and replaced with a tiny one with no seating which closes at 9pm.
- trgn 2y agoClaimed two abandoned storefronts after covid killed our downtown. Also more yuppie primped clientele, compared to most other coffeeshops in my area.
- tra3 2y agoCurious how this works. I generally don’t drink coffee late..do people come in for coffee and stay a while? I never really thought through the business model.
- giantg2 2y agoA younger me would get it. The older me wonders why people can't be content alone. Do I really need to go socialize at 2am? Probably not, and even less so without alcohol. But I get that others are different.
- nimih 2y agoNeither of the coffee shops profiled in the article are open at 2am, so I would hazard to guess their proprietors agree with you.
- idlewords 2y agoI'd be shocked if you can't find qat at these places. It's worth a try; I'd describe it as amphetamine salad. It's at about the midpoint between a strong cup of coffee and adderall. An odd thing about qat is that despite being a stimulant it fills the role of alcohol in Yemeni culture—it's what men blow their salaries on, go on benders with, sometimes even destroy their families over. It's fascinating to see a drug with completely different physical effects exhibit so many of the same social pathologies as alcohol. Don't chew it too often or it will stain your teeth.
- satvikpendem 2y agoReminds me of the betel nut such as in paan, but it's not nearly as strong it seems like, more akin to caffeine or nicotine in strength. It's cancerous though (and will stain your teeth too) so don't eat too much either.
- Scoundreller 2y agoI also think any absorbed-through-the-mouth stimulant probably causes dental problems… probably by constricting blood vessels? Maybe could be combined with some topical-acting only dilator?
- lobochrome 2y agoIt’s also what they blow about 80% of their irrigation water supplies on while the overall population battles malnurition…
- citizenpaul 2y agoAccording to wikipedia it is not legal to sell or consume in the US. >In the United States (US) and Turkey, the botanical specimen (plant) Catha edulis is not prohibited, but the consumption and distribution of harvested leaves or possession for recreational use is illegal.
- the__alchemist 2y agoDo people drink the coffee late? I would never get to sleep after doing that!
- xrd 2y agoMy general takeaway from a bunch of comments is that there were two death waves for these late night places. But, I have a great fix. First, Starbucks committed coffeeshopicide by targeting local hangouts that were successful, and then spraying their own burnt grounds, driving up real estate and making it impossible for a small, less efficient shop to survive. I saw this happen at several great places in Portland. Then, obviously a career climbing executive at Starbucks tried to get promoted and tightened up hours. The second wave of late night coffee shop deaths occured with COVID and homelessness (really McKinsey and Purdue opioids, read "When McKinsey Comes to Town") because of safety. No one, big or small, can offer a space and decide which hipster can stay and which has to leave because he is now addicted to drugs and not just Instagram dopamine. The solution: cities should offer a tax break to a coffee shop that stays open late. And, cities should offer a match where they create a space nearby for homeless people to congregate late night. I'm sure there is a correlation between the number of homeless and soon-to-be homeless creative types. I'm saddened late night coffee shops have largely disappeared, these Yemeni shops look terrific. And, they bring the social back to meeting places, and I don't mean social media and laptops.
- aprilthird2021 2y agoThe first one is fine, but small, less efficient shops were never open very late. Also, Yemeni coffee shops are basically the same as Mom and pop coffee shops. Why are they able to be open late in the same environment? Second one, how come Yemeni coffee shops don't have the issue of keeping out the homeless? EDIT: Yemeni coffee shops are having the same success in the bay area where these problems are both exacerbated.
- alach11 2y ago> Yemeni Coffee Shops in Texas Here in Houston, law enforcement is pretty strict on homeless people causing problems. Maybe that's the reason?
- NitpickLawyer 2y agoProbably because they're small "family" businesses, and the owner is there more often than not. And they have no problem saying "no" to anyone for any reason.
- ChumpGPT 2y agoOn a tangent....I remember the only place you could get a coffee in Texas was Waffle House or Denny's. In the early 90's the DFW area didn't even know what an espresso was. Starbucks finally came around 1995 and it was such a joy. Now there are some amazing cafes serving amazing coffee, especially in college towns like Denton.
- lobochrome 2y agoIn Japan, most specialty coffee shops limit customers to a maximum of one hour to accommodate as many people as possible. This is partly because people can enjoy a cup and a cake very slowly. Some shops even ban laptops. Due to the small size of apartments, finding places to work, study, or read outside the cramped family home is a significant challenge. This is also why love hotels exist. Starbucks, however, has no such policies, making it extremely popular for these activities. I always wonder how they manage with such low spending per occupied seat. Additionally, Starbucks service quality in Japan is exceptional. The staff is friendly, and regular customers receive incredible attention to brighten their day with a smile.
- buzzert 2y agoIf anyone's looking for one of these in SF, my favorite place is Delah Coffee[0] near Yerba Buena. They're open until 11pm. Try the Kunafa Cheesecake! [0]: https://delahcoffee.com/ https://delahcoffee.com/
- aprilthird2021 2y agoMy city (Oakland) has like 3 Yemeni coffeeshops within 10 min of me, and every time I go at night they're usually packed. There's just nowhere else open late at night that isn't a bar, period.
- anu7df 2y agoMay be I am an aberration, but I actually seek out coffee shops for good coffee. A nice espresso, cappuccino and on occasion black drip or pour over. I will never be as comfortable at a coffee place as I am at home, so why bother. But yes, I definitely like a comfortable place to sit while I am drinking my brew. Don't really care for another conversation at the time -- My coffee an I are having one. Also, for anyone in Houston try out Catalina coffee on Washington. The coffee shop I judge all other shops by. Best espresso drinks ever. Also, in Seattle, the starbucks reserve (I think that was what they were called. Its been a few years.) had some really good beans and well made drinks, way way better than the usual starbucks swill.
- TheSpiceIsLife 2y agoThe best coffee I’ve was a Turkish Green from, if I recall correctly, Jerusalem Sheshkebab House - 131B Hidley Street, Adelaide. Now permanently closed as a result of the corvid lockdowns. Basement level, red booths, open late, no dickheads, nicest proprietor. Also the best hummus, falafels etc.
- tetris11 2y agoWe had a few Kahve Dünyası's over here, but they're sadly closing down. The irony is that a lot of the english breakfast tea places are all Turkish
- nobodywillobsrv 2y agoWhat is it like for women?
- lots2learn 2y ago[flagged]
- defrost 2y agoOr a wanna be pickup artist looking for new prey. On the question asked, the article has a photo that appears to show 4 male customers and ~ 10 (11?) female customers (two all female tables and a confusing backdrop). https://img.texasmonthly.com/2024/12/yemeni-coffee-shops-5a.jpg https://img.texasmonthly.com/2024/12/yemeni-coffee-shops-5a....
- etothet 2y agohttps://archive.ph/mW3GN https://archive.ph/mW3GN
- teleforce 2y agoFun facts, the word coffee come from Kahve, the bastardization of the word Kahwa meaning coffee in Arabic since Turkish lacks "w" and normally replaces it with "v". Another related fun facts, the now universal European word cafe also come from the same word originally meaning coffee drinking place or shop [1]. [1] Coffee and qahwa: How a drink for Arab mystics went global: https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22190802 https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22190802
- ginko 2y ago>Another related fun facts, the now universal European word cafe also come from the same word originally meaning coffee drinking place or shop. Isn't that pretty obvious? It's literally the French word for coffee.
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- meltyness 2y agoHey this is brilliant thanks for the tip
- CMCDragonkai 2y agoAustin has bennu coffee places which open 24 hrs, and taco shops that open 24 hrs too.
- tonygiorgio 2y agoTIL, one near me too. Are they pretty open to late night working/studying or more of a social hangout at nights?
- CMCDragonkai 2y agoLots of people work late into the night.
- YoungGato 2y agoI work morning to night and don't have an office. It's really nice to be able to get out of the house and the yemeni coffee shops provide a way for me to get out and stay out for a while.
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- theendisney4 2y agoI use to live next to a trucker restaurant that opened at 4am. It was a great place to go after a party or a night out.
- throwawayk7h 2y agoWhat most appeals to me is the lack of music. Most music in stores, restaurants, and other public places is very irritating to me. (Misophonia.) I would be thrilled if more places made the decision not to play music.