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BlenderGPT
- JustBreath 2y agoAt some point Scribblenauts 3D is going to be one hell of a game.
- dismalaf 2y agoColour me impressed. First model generating LLM I've tried that isn't terrible.
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- gregjw 2y agoSubway Surfers while you wait. Oh boy.
- terminalbraid 2y ago"Try it out for free!" Demands a google account, as if my personal info is somehow worthless.
- Salgat 2y agoYou're welcome to make a throwaway gmail account if you want "truly free". And don't try to argue that your time still has value, because then that means nothing is truly free.
- gregjw 2y agoConsidering infra costs, it kind of is worthless, they aren't about to start selling advertising on their AI tool. I'd assume the reason they have auth is so they don't get botted and it absolutely bricks their servers.
- terminalbraid 2y agoI don't disagree with you. It should not be billed as "free" without qualification. It should read "free with google account".
- LoganDark 2y agoContrary to the downvotes on the above comment I see absolutely zero issue with wanting to be informed of this in advance. I would've made this exact same comment if I had run into it myself.
- Kiro 2y agoIt clearly says "Sign up with Google" before you're prompted with anything. Saying it on the landing page itself as an asterisk next to "free" would just feel stupid, like those overly cautious warning labels, and if anything make me think less of the service.
- LoganDark 2y ago> It clearly says "Sign up with Google" After you click the button to try it...
- Kiro 2y agoSo where do you draw the line? Maybe it even needs to be included in the post submission title? It's just ridiculous. Anyone thinking this is a problem needs to get their priorities straight.
- LoganDark 2y ago> So where do you draw the line? Maybe it even needs to be included in the post submission title? It's just ridiculous. Anyone thinking this is a problem needs to get their priorities straight. ... I have the same thing for articles where I click on the submission title and there's a paywall. I want to know about the wall before I get there so that I'll know it's not worth the effort. Usually this is achieved by looking in the comments for an archive link so in that case I don't care about there not being a warning in the submission title because the comments allow me to enjoy the content anyway. In this case there's no need for a warning in the submission title because I go to the website and I get a neat idea, that's fine, no wall yet. There's a button to try it and that's where the warning should be that a Google account is required. Your argument is what's ridiculous. See my other comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42407232 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42407232
- mcosta 2y agoHow much does it cost?
- mnau 2y agoJust make a new Google account. It's not like you have to fill correct info and you can make two accounts with same phone number (at least I could ~1 year ago).
- plipt 2y agoI appreciate you sharing this. However are you not concerned that Google might flag your accounts as being somehow fraudulent? And then get locked out of your digital identity? Maybe I am too reliant on my gmail account.
- whtsthmttrmn 2y ago> Maybe I am too reliant on my gmail account. Ding ding ding!
- mnau 2y agoNot really. They have official help topic as well as UI to switch accounts: Sign in to multiple accounts at once. I literally have same phone number at both, so it would be easiest thing in the world to add verification for uniqueness of the phone number. It's not like I am making tens or even thousands of accounts or doing anything nefarious with them. Just having my "official" account and "throwaway" account. Can google ban happy ban me? Sure, if that happens, it happens. I lost access to my email before (small national provider from days before the internet was big, it just stopped working one day). But that can happen anyway, but I don't see any policy that would suggest that (at least nothing in first page of google suggest that).
- Kiro 2y agoFor the vast majority of sites with Google login it is indeed worthless. I implement it because I want to give people an easy login option and because customers want it. I couldn't care less about your personal info.
- mrtksn 2y agoIMHO this unjustified negativity, it's asking you to sign with your Google account which gives them very basic info about you which is very reasonable considering that they are going to give you a computationally intensive demo. It's a common practice against abuse, it's not asking you to install a tracking software or anything.
- takinox2 2y agothe person who developed just mentioned how its for cost minimisation purposes. know about the things before you mindlessly bring someone down.
- terminalbraid 2y agoI know exactly what it's for and if you read all my comments before you mindlessly try to bring someone down, my complaint isn't with needing an account, it's saying you can use this for "free" unqualified. Not even "free with account". It's "free with and only with a google account".
- Cheer2171 2y agoIt is pretty obvious that you're an alternate account of the developer.
- drusepth 2y agoTechnically, they also demand you have a computer, internet access, and enough education to be able to read. I'd also still call it "free" though.
- latexr 2y agoYou can’t do anything without signing in with a Google account.
- JKCalhoun 2y agoThree free images seems to be the limit. Using a photo as the prompt did not seem to work for me.
- elliottcarlson 2y agoI tried three images as the prompt, all three isolated without a background, and it worked pretty decently. Nothing I would actually use, but they generated something close enough.
- okasaki 2y agoit's not its
- throw646577 2y agoThat ship has sailed. Along with the good ship capital letters at the beginning of sentences. It's a GenAI subculture signifier. Utterly tiresome; HN and the tech web is riddled with it.
- Retr0id 2y ago> It's a GenAI subculture signifier Presumably, the point is to be a "written by a human" signifier
- throw646577 2y agoThe signifier is to sound and write like Sam Altman, I think. It's perfectly possible to write in a style that doesn't sound like ChatGPT, which has the tone of a collection of college admissions essays written by perky, shallow people with no life experience.
- okasaki 2y agoI don't think that's really true. ChatGPT has a fairly neutral style of writing. It may vary a bit on the prompt I guess.
- throw646577 2y agoIt really does not. It has a noticeable style and affect/manner.
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- baal80spam 2y agoFor some reason the page doesn't work for me but this is the video I received in my RSS link: https://blendergptv2-jobs.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/compressed_output.mp4 https://blendergptv2-jobs.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/compres... Anyway - I can't find a good reason for someone to start 3D graphic course today. A tool like this will eat everyone's lunch.
- aloisdg 2y agowhat about programming?
- jarmitage 2y agoSame/different to https://github.com/gd3kr/BlenderGPT https://github.com/gd3kr/BlenderGPT ?
- bee_rider 2y agoThat’s pretty slick. I wonder if this sort of thing, generating a 3D model, could be a better way toward persistent worlds, than the models trained on games. I wonder how well typical render farm could run a model like this.
- abraxas 2y agoWhat's the technical underpinning of this? Is this a novel prompt to 3D technique or is this a user interface on something preexisting?
- wincy 2y agoI’d hazard a guess that this is using the Microsoft Trellis [0] open source project released last week. You can download the weights and the code right now, just need an Nvidia GPU with at least 16GB vram. I saw people doing this manually on X last Friday, using FLUX diffusion model -> Trellis -> Blender [0] https://trellis3d.github.io/ https://trellis3d.github.io/
- bogwog 2y agoI thought the exact same thing, especially considering how bare bones the site/app is. It's as if someone rushed to turn that into a subscription-based app as quickly as possible. I wouldn't even be surprised if the app itself was AI generated!
- m3kw9 2y agoI thought it was a demo, but when I put in a prompt, it popped up with a hand asking for money first. I’m not paying without trying it out first.
- doener 2y ago"I am quite suspicious of this project. In particular I want to draw attention to the nonsensical naming scheme (this is clearly not related to anything to do with GPT) suggestive of lack of understanding of the relevant technology, an absence of a usable demo, and the fact that they show the same small handful of models over and over again. The input images do not appear natural at all - almost as though he’s just taken the 3d models he’s supposed to be „generating“ and rendered them in Blender. The quality of the models and the resulting PBR textures are extremely high, with no noticeable imperfections whatsoever. This is not impossible… but all of these things combined lead me to be very sceptical of this service. I will believe it when I see it!" https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1gk8x5j/blendergpt_the_fastest_way_to_generate_3d_assets https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1gk8x5j/blende...
- Pikamander2 2y ago> In particular I want to draw attention to the nonsensical naming scheme (this is clearly not related to anything to do with GPT) That particular part doesn't mean much. The name "ChatGPT" has become a new and exciting name like "Google" was in the early 2000s, so people are latching onto it for marketing purposes. The techical accuracy of a name doesn't really matter if it helps you attract new customers. But even so, the tool could still be junk and/or a scam.
- mrtksn 2y agoI just tried it, there's a demo and works as advertised. I had 3 credits upon signing up, tried uploading a photo of a cup and it created the model of the cup. Then I created a figurine of Trump and a model of Galata Tower. Check it out: https://a.dropoverapp.com/cloud/download/395da02b-874d-441c-94cc-0528f0a682d4/dbbe4455-50f5-4b85-ac89-4074107dfb5b https://a.dropoverapp.com/cloud/download/395da02b-874d-441c-... I'm very surprised by all the negativity in the comments, some kid created a tool that's working as advertised and even gives a free demo. What am I missing here? Why are so many people are acting as if this is a scam? The tool isn't asking anything more than one click sign up using Google, takes you straight to the UI where you spend your free credits instantly.
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- MisterTea 2y agoI'm holding out for BenderGPT. Cant wait till my computer can insult me, steal my wallet, then go boozin and whorin.
- gd3kr 2y agoHey HN! I'm aarya (twitter.com/gd3kr) and I built BlenderGPT Really overwhelmed with the traffic, will be defaulting to a less compute intensive model for a bit. Will try to keep up with this thread and respond to questions/comments but mostly focused on not letting BlenderGPT crash. BlenderGPT is entirely bootstrapped and i'm really the only one on the team. Also, The required google sign in is only put in place to prevent botting/account creation abuse which is really not ideal when dealing with expensive GPU associated compute costs while generating every model. I hope you have fun with it! DM me on twitter if you enjoy it and would like more credits to try it out.
- fourside 2y agoSorry to sound like a party pooper but this project gives off strong “fake it till you make it” vibes. Most AI projects I’ve seen share some type of information on how they work, yet this is completely devoid of it. Is this a new approach to mesh generation or is it using existing tooling? Then you’ve got the “we think it’s really good” line when it’s really just you. Like, why the hand waviness, the use of “GPT” when it doesn’t apply. There’s just something a bit off about this. Maybe it’s all fine but the the lack of information doesn’t help.
- 9rx 2y ago> Like, why the hand waviness, the use of “GPT” when it doesn’t apply. While recognizing your earlier complaint of not having details of how it works, is there some reason to think it doesn't work using a generative pre-trained transformer? If we had to make an assumption about how it works, that would be my assumption. It is the go-to tool for these types of problems.
- gd3kr 2y agoUnderstandable. For context, the GPT in the name comes from an earlier version of this project (https://github.com/gd3kr/blendergpt https://github.com/gd3kr/blendergpt) which actually used GPT-4 to write python scripts that Blender would then execute. This would allow GPT-4 to program operations like instantiating primitives with the Blender Python API given only a text prompt (ex. "create 50 cubes") The new version of BlenderGPT (lets call this v2) doesn't use an any autoregressive token prediction for the actual mesh generation part, so I understand why it sounds dishonest. I really just chose to stick with the name because artists really didn't seem to care about how the meshes are generated, and the term GPT became closely associated with AI. As for the technical stuff, I've been working on BlenderGPT v2 for the past several months, and until a week ago, i had been using a custom pipeline I built borrowing and re-implementing bits of Unique3D (https://wukailu.github.io/Unique3D/ https://wukailu.github.io/Unique3D/) and combining it with optimized models (flow matching diffusion models etc) for intermediate steps (text to image generation). My optimizations reduced inference time from >2 minutes to only about 20 seconds. This is the model used in this demo i shared: https://x.com/gd3kr/status/1853645054721606100 https://x.com/gd3kr/status/1853645054721606100 And then Microsoft released Trellis (https://github.com/microsoft/TRELLIS https://github.com/microsoft/TRELLIS), and it seemed to leapfrog my model's capabilities on most things. Integrating it into the pipeline wasn't too hard and so I went forward with it. All of this is just to say that there really was a lot of effort put into the core pipeline, and the landing page was mostly an afterthought. Actively working on a more comprehensive one that covers all the points I talked about.
- EA 2y agoIt generates a mobius strip that looks like a pill.
- mattigames 2y agoNow we just need startupGPT so we can make those pesky startup founders redundant too!
- rqtwteye 2y agoIt’s going to happen. It will move up the chain until it replaces the really powerful people. Replacing them will obviously be made illegal.
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- GrantMoyer 2y agoIs BlenderGPT really a registered trademark? Surely it infringes on Blender's (unregistered) trademark, but maybe the registration process only reviews exisiting registered marks, and it'd be up to the Blender Foundation to challenge the use of BlenderGPT. On the other hand, the USPTO trademark search didn't turn up any relevant results for BlenderGPT even though the terms of service on the site seem to indicate a US based company.
- TheRealPomax 2y ago"Unregistered"? Blender is a registered trademark in both the US and the EU. Their brand guideline page explicitly calls out that you are not allowed to use their name in your own product: https://www.blender.org/about/logo/#trademark https://www.blender.org/about/logo/#trademark
- GrantMoyer 2y agoOh, huh. I assumed it was not registered since Blender uses "™" instead of "®" at the top of its homepage. I guess that's just for the logo then, not the wordmark.
- TheRealPomax 2y agoAmusingly, you don't have to use either for it to be a registered trademark, it just makes it "more obvious". It also makes word marks look like corporate capitalist nonsense, so leaving it off does all of us a service =D
- cbartlett 2y agoBlender is a registered trademark, I'm pretty sure this has nothing to do with blender. I'm not sure GPT is safe or even correct either.
- para_parolu 2y agoBestbuy is full of equipment with Blender in name. How they do it?
- cbartlett 2y agoBecause trademarks are categorised
- isaacimagine 2y agoTrademark does not apply for unrelated goods. See: https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/search/likelihood-confusion https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/search/likelihood-confusion
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- archerx 2y agoThey are not related to software or computer graphics.
- griomnib 2y agoThey aren’t software, Blender foundation likely has exclusive use in that domain. I’m guessing if it was litigated it would come up, but that they’d prevail.
- SubiculumCode 2y agoAnd this is not even just about software in a general sense, it's literally software that creates the same product: 3d models. Absolutely asking for trouble.
- syntaxing 2y agoOr you can use the free and open source addon from Hugginface themselves and runs locally… https://github.com/huggingface/meshgen https://github.com/huggingface/meshgen
- porphyra 2y agoYeah but a finished textured model is quite different from a low-poly untextured model even though the llama meshgen approach is quite interesting and promising.
- xnx 2y agoAnyone interested in this type of thing should check out the free and open source TRELLIS: https://huggingface.co/spaces/JeffreyXiang/TRELLIS https://huggingface.co/spaces/JeffreyXiang/TRELLIS Upload an image and it outputs a 3D model. Use a separate image generator to make a model of anything you can imagine.
- vunderba 2y agoTrellis is very impressive (topology notwithstanding). I put some examples together of what Trellis can do, it's definitely better with angular type models (vehicles, etc.), but unsurprisingly can struggle a bit with more organic forms. https://imgur.com/a/trellis-2d-3d-samples-eSWJhMj https://imgur.com/a/trellis-2d-3d-samples-eSWJhMj
- lasermatts 2y agoI fed TRELLIS an image of the left side of my Vespa, and it correctly (mostly) added exhaust on the other side. Super, super cool to see -- really hyped for what this means for 3D representations!
- bangaladore 2y agoI took a masked image of a tank from a game, in a perspective format, presumably the best case for these models. Trellis did far worse than BlenderGPT. Particularly Trellis tends to have little to no detail with nearly black texturing in the parts that are "hardest" to imagine. Somewhat interesting as this seems to use Trellis under the hood, but again, this did a substantially better job.
- cchance 2y agoYa trellis i think is the current best, i'd imagine what the OPS site is doing is a txt2img+rembg into trellis or another model, and then converted to a blender format... its a nice workflow, though he says he downgraded to a less intense model to save compute right now... which is pretty obvious, it should mention somewhere which model it is currently using
- Nightloaf 2y agoTo everyone in this thread criticizing their project, what have you built and shared recently? Have you contributed anything to HN lately besides negativity?
- adroitboss 2y agoIs this just a wrapper around the Microsoft project released a few days ago? https://trellis3d.github.io/ https://trellis3d.github.io/
- xnx 2y agoThat seems to be the main part of it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42400537 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42400537
- cchance 2y agoWell he says he switched to a less intense model to handle the traffic thats more crude, so i don't think its currently using trellis
- romanovcode 2y agoYeah, that's why the website is so barebones.
- heyheyhouhou 2y agoJust FYI you should avoid using the name Blender in your product From https://www.blender.org/about/logo/ https://www.blender.org/about/logo/ "In short – if you want to start a company or website related to Blender services, avoid using the name Blender in it. You can use it as a secondary tagline though – such as “Awesome Company Inc., the Blender specialists”. Same goes for forks of the Blender software, give it a new name and create a unique brand that way. The latter is also enforced by the GNU GPL, which explicitly excludes brand names from the freedom."
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- btbuildem 2y agoCould do without the frantic animation, whatever that is for.
- simonw 2y agoIt did quite well on my "a pelican riding a bicycle" test: https://static.simonwillison.net/static/2024/a-pelican-riding-a-bicycle.html https://static.simonwillison.net/static/2024/a-pelican-ridin... The 2D loading indicator it showed me was even better! https://blendergptv2-jobs.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/generated-images/665550.png https://blendergptv2-jobs.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/generat... - anyone know what BlenderGPT uses for that? Might be FLUX or similar.
- idiocache 2y agoKid's getting way too much hate for what seems to be quite a cool project! Oh he "just" put a UI in front of Trellis? Yes. He did. You didn't. Keep up the good work, gd3kr :)
- ramon156 2y agoI get your point, but it's annoying because the creator didn't specify this anywhere. If you look at a project like CodeBuff, its explained what the tool is made with. OP didn't even check the Blender licensing, why would I respect such a barbones attempt at a project? At least be honest that it's just an interface with trellis.
- vunderba 2y agoGive me a break. The site's ad copy: "BlenderGPT is an advanced artificial intelligence program that creates 3D models from text or image prompts in ~20 seconds. It lets you synthesise fully textured meshes, then import directly to Blender with a shortcut or download the source files for use in any compatible software. We think it's really good, try it out for free now." It's very deliberately posing itself as having their own proprietary algorithm, as opposed to just a wrapper around TRELLIS, whose team did the real work. There's nothing wrong with that, but not giving any credit or mention to the trellis team is in poor taste.
- pixelpoet 2y agoYou even fixed their typo on "its".
- pkkkzip 2y agoI can definitely see why people were upset but I think they are reading a bit too much into it. We all know its a wrapper now but makes little to no difference in reality. What I'm more disappointed in is that BlenderGPT aka TRELLIS is still not capable of producing truly segmented 3d mesh. The generated output is simply just a blob and not capable of replacing actual 3d modelers (yet). I've already seen so many claims of being able to generate 3D but they have fallen short of expectation (including BlenderGPT/TRELLIS). Without segmentation, mesh optimizations, there is limited use. We are so close but because everybody is chasing investment dollars they gloss over the ugly bits and even after 20 months of watching this space there has been little progress. The true golden chalice of 3d mesh generation is a fully segmented, optimized mesh, UV texture map/material generation and pre-rigged. It appears we are far far away from it still as many FANG/Deepmind or large game engines should be the first. Unfortunately until then we are stuck with investor dollar grift wrappers on open source products. Not just in 3D but across all domains that AI touches.
- halyconWays 2y agoIt only allows sign-up with Google. No thank you :(
- FactKnower69 2y agoany relation whatsoever to Blender? any relation whatsoever to generative pretrained transformers? at all??
- sourcepluck 2y agoEchoing other sentiment to say: I agree with others who believe it's a majorly crappy move, with the name. Immediately suspicious of any project capable of such childish attention-grabbing!
- ravenstine 2y agoSo... I am I seeing things, or can I only sign up using a Google account?
- owenpalmer 2y agoI'm sorry but this is misleading on so many levels. This has nothing to do with Blender or GPT, and it's just Trellis under the hood.
- causi 2y agoAI-generated modeling is such a fun concept. If you want to pee yourself laughing, ask ChatGPT to generate SCAD files of things like animals or everyday objects.
- CivBase 2y agoVery cool, but I don't think I understand the pricing. $20/mo gets me 50 credits/mo, but I can buy 50 credits at any time for just $10? Sounds like the subscription is asking me to pay double for the same number of credits.
- ceroxylon 2y agoIt's cool and useful for granular editing, but tools like Kling, Sora, and Runway will make this step irrelevant in the next few years, in my opinion.
- ilaksh 2y agoSince they explained that they used an open source model and system https://github.com/Microsoft/TRELLIS https://github.com/Microsoft/TRELLIS, it will be possible for other developers who want to start similar businesses to launch basic competitors within a week or so, if they are ambitious about it. I spent about 10 minutes with my agent running Claude 3.5 Sonnet New and generated most of the core code already: https://github.com/runvnc/img2blender https://github.com/runvnc/img2blender Although I haven't tested that and don't actually know if it will work.
- samspenc 2y agoCurious how this compares to other existing similar services, such as Meshy AI and Rodin, that already have this functionality?
- smeeger 2y agowelp thats millions of jobs/side jobs exterminated. hooray?
- cadamsau 2y agoThankyou @gd3kr this is a really handy tool! Will use it next time I need 3D models. Just made a porcelain elephant to test it, it came out so cute!
- Henhound 2y agoLove the subway surfers loading screen LMAO. cool app!