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Apple Vision Pro Weighs Almost as Much as a 12.9-Inch iPad Pro
- bee_rider 3y agoThat seems worrying, but the balance will make all the difference, right?
- PaulHoule 3y agoThe strap makes all the difference. The strap that comes with the Meta Quest 3 (weighs 18.2 ounces) is awful and makes it hard to wear it for more than 30 min or so but Meta makes an "Elite Strap" that I find really comfortable so on some days during the Christmas break I was able to put 5 hours into Asgard's Wrath 2.
- alpaca128 3y agoThe Elite Strap is also expensive and infamous for breaking, Meta stopped the sales of both the Quest 2 and Quest 3 versions in the past. I just ordered a cheap third-party strap and it's very comfortable. The original strap is so terrible that it seems intentional. The bare minimum so they can legally say it includes one.
- belval 3y agoConsidering that Meta is probably selling the Quest 2 and 3 at cost (or even subsidizing it) I'm pretty sure it's intentional as a cost-cutting measure that has an easy and somewhat inexpensive aftermarket fix. But yeah, as someone who waited +1 year to get a third-party strap, don't do that. It's worth the 30$.
- seanmcdirmid 3y agoI have the Elite Strap and have been pretty happy with it. I don't see how it could break. I don't understand what other users are using VR for, though.
- layer8 3y agoSome influencers think it’s quite heavy: https://twitter.com/MKBHD/status/1747367564093624348 https://twitter.com/MKBHD/status/1747367564093624348
- bee_rider 3y agoI’m not really informed on the influencer-sphere, is MKBHD generally good for reviews? (Note: when I say not really informed, I mean really not informed. So, this is not intended as a shade throwing question, hahaha).
- layer8 3y agoI’m not following him closely, but he seems generally reasonable both in praise and criticism. Of course, regarding the heaviness, we’ll know much more in a few weeks.
- nickthegreek 3y agoI find MKBHD to be trustworthy and honest.
- jinushaun 3y agoHe’s one of the best. His reviews are generally balanced and reserved, not clickbait/ragebait.
- jbverschoor 3y agoMaybe if you get some exo-skeleton from CES :-) I'd love to test them out though
- MBCook 3y agoThree ounces more than a Quest 3. The quest three doesn’t have an external battery (not included in VP weight). And 3 oz isn’t nothing. But it’s not like it’s 2x the competition.
- judge2020 3y agoThe Valve Index weighs 809g, Vision Pro 600-650g. I feel like an aftermarket head strap with a front-to-back top strap and a back counterweight might make it extremely usable for hours on end. The counterweight I have for my Index greatly improves comfort.
- LeoPanthera 3y agoA front-to-back top strap is included in the box.
- trevyn 3y agoYou mean a left-to-right top strap.
- LeoPanthera 3y agoApparently I do. Probably works about the same.
- jwells89 3y agoCounterweights do indeed help. Lots of Quest users use an external battery mounted on the back of their headstrap as a counterweight, so I’m sure there will be third party straps that do that with the Vision’s external battery.
- singularity2001 3y agoThey already have an USB C socket in the display, why didn't they disconnect a lightweight display from a heavier battery and cpu/gpu unit for your pocket?
- garbageman 3y agoIs '12.9" iPad Pro' a standard measurement now?
- jbverschoor 3y agoApple likes to make heavy stuff.. The first iPhone X is also super heavy. I think they watched too many Jurassic Park.. "Are they heavy? Then they're expensive, put them back"
- wilsonnb3 3y agoYeah the AirPod Max is pretty egregiously heavy compared to competitors, 380 grams compared to 250ish, largely because Apple doesn't seem to like using plastic.
- dcow 3y agoI find the title overly slanted for my tastes, and I don’t have any stake in the game. The article admits the headset weighs in between a quest 3 and a quest pro. Why are we comparing to “almost as much as an iPad Pro? Maybe it’s a standard reference for the macrumors audience? Kinda feels like the author is trying to bait outrage clicks but maybe it’s just awkward wording.
- cbovis 3y agoI've never really found Macrumors to be all that click-baity. My guess would be a reference point targeted at their particular demographic. Reading the article on your iPad Pro? Now you know roughly how heavy the Vision Pro is going to be.
- MBCook 3y agoI agree with you, I like them. But this does feel oddly clickbait-y to me. “Vision Pro weighs just 3 oz more than Meta Quest 3” would be just as accurate and more useful. But generate fewer clicks.
- jinushaun 3y agoNot click bait. I know what an iPad Pro weighs. I don’t know what a Quest weighs. Intuitively.
- layer8 3y agoClickbaity titles are par for the course for MacRumors.
- SllX 3y ago> Maybe it’s a standard reference for the macrumors audience? I think it’s honestly this. Most MacRumors headlines are awkward and almost solely reference Apple products, even if there’s a better thing to compare, so their clickbait potential is usually incidental at best because everyone who reads it normally knows this is MacRumors and they’re on a strict applesauce-based diet.
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- jdietrich 3y agoWeight distribution is just as important as weight. The Meta Quest 3 is significantly more comfortable than the Quest 2 despite being slightly heavier, because the weight is much closer to your face. A fairly lightweight motorcycle helmet weighs about 1400 grams, but you really don't notice that weight unless it's poorly fitted. Given that the Vision Pro is exclusively available with a custom-fitted facial interface and headstrap, I'm quite confident that the comfort will be - at worst - on a par with most other VR headsets.
- jsbisviewtiful 3y agoI'm still trying to understand the use case for this $3500+ device. In the introduction video, Apple touted it as "useful for watching movies on an airplane or some other similar environment"... but I'm not bringing a large, unwieldy and extremely expensive device like a VR headset onto a plane or packing it on a trip... and the battery doesn't even last through a whole movie, according to the newest reports. The main way they tried to sell it from the beginning just seems... like a bad selling point.
- rchaud 3y agoConsidering they haven't mentioned it much at all since the initial demo, I think they are intentionally going low-key with the launch. This is way outside the price range for people who could splurge $1000+ on an iPhone, but not much more. Plus you know what you're getting with an iPhone, this thing doesn't even have any apps yet. There's also significant anxiety about inflation, mortgage rates ans rent now that there wasn't previously.
- dharmab 3y agoI'm going to evaluate one to replace most of the equipment in my home office. I currently have 3 monitors and still could benefit from another 2-3. This would also provide audio quality on par with a decent hifi which would be a nice bonus. Add up the cost of 5-6 large monitors, and the space they take up in the room, and this device has appeal.
- _xnmw 3y agoI was thinking the same, but from what I understand, you can only create one virtual display with a Mac. How are you planning to replace 5 monitors?
- sashank_1509 3y agoDo you need a Mac though? These days I extensively use vscode.dev online, so safari is enough, which is natively supported by Vision Pro. If VisionOS has a terminal that can run vim like a Mac, that would be sufficient for a large swath of developers. Also would electron apps be natively supported in VisionPro, if so then we might even have vscode on it
- tiltowait 3y agoThis seems ... fine? I have a 12.9" iPad, and it doesn't feel crazy heavy to me. The weight is in line with other VR headsets I've used, and they feel fine on my face. So long as the strap is good and balances the weight evenly, it'll be good for most people.
- unsupp0rted 3y ago"Apple Vision Pro Weighs Almost as Much as Quest Pro"
- spoonjim 3y agoDisappointing… I find the iPad Pro feels quite heavy when I attach it to my face
- amelius 3y agoI just attached the palm of my hand to my face ...
- i8comments 3y agoVR headsets like the Quest have caused serious neck injuries with vigorous use. Not buying it until it is very light.
- dougmwne 3y agoDo you have a source on that? I am curious if it’s a widespread issue or very rare.
- jwells89 3y agoFWIW, as someone who logged between 175 and 200 hours of usage with a Quest 2 playing Beat Saber (a high-movement game) last year, I’ve not experienced any issues.
- somewhereoutth 3y agoGiven that a VR headset places an unbalanced, unusual, not insignificant weight (pulling down the front of the head) on delicate and vital structure that is the neck, I think the onus would be on the manufacturers to show that it is safe, rather than vice versa. Everything else you wear on your head is either balanced (helmets) or very light weight (glasses).
- nickthegreek 3y agoManufactures do believe they are safe. There are over 20 million of these out there. OP said it caused serious neck injuries. Doug asked for a single source.
- seanmcdirmid 3y agoI use by Quest exclusively for working out (FitXR + some Beat Saber), around 1 hour a day, 5 days/week. I don't have any neck problems at all. Maybe you just have a weak neck?
- Pxtl 3y agoI wonder how much of the weight comes from screens and cameras and sensors (which must be in the glasses) vs CPU and memory and radios and the like? Because the latter could be moved to the back for balance it, or even down to the battery pack if an umbilical that could handle that much bandwidth was available.
- dougmwne 3y agoThis is likely not a major issue for the first version. It’s is the general range of other VR headsets. Mostly a decent strap design will make it comfortable to wear for an hour, maybe two. The eye strain from a fixed lens means you won’t want to wear it much longer than that anyway. Future versions will need to get a lot lighter and smaller to go beyond gaming and short uses to be something you’d use as much as a phone or laptop.
- MenhirMike 3y agoFor those unfamiliar with 12.9-Inch iPad Pro weight units: That's almost 13 Tennis Balls. (Yep, the iPad Pro weighs about 1 Tennis Ball per inch)
- explaininjs 3y agoWhat a useless measure. For the civilized among us, that's 0.00000026 olympic sized swimming pools.
- AzzyHN 3y agoWhat's that in football fields?
- interestica 3y agoAbout 0.000000685 football fields. https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/alpc9v/self_how_much_does_a_football_field_weigh/ https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/alpc9v/self...
- judge2020 3y agoIt's also 1.39-1.5 NFL regulation footballs.
- gnicholas 3y agoI have an 11" iPad Pro and find it to be pretty light on its own. Much of the heft comes from the Magic Keyboard case that it snaps into, which has to be heavy (on the bottom) to keep it from tipping over. But iPad Pros on their own are not especially heavy IMO.
- alien_cat 3y agoMy concern is more like this: the product still feels like a last-generation traditional VR headset. When products like Viture exist that actually make sense to wear for a long time, it's hard to justify the technology. Maybe separate optical components and the rest. Having an external battery-compute combo box or something. (Apple Vision Pro already requires an external battery bank anyway). I don't know; some decisions are off.
- latchkey 3y agoJust think about how much lighter your wallet is!