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Bram Moolenaar has died
- isatty 3y agoThank you for everything, Bram. vim has been my editor forever and I can’t imagine using any other. Can we please have a black banner? :q
- torsy 3y agoI love what I do as a software engineer and a huge part of that is because I have a tool like vim. Thanks Bram. Rest in peace.
- ackyshake 3y agoAbsolutely devastated at the news. Bram was really patient with me based on the few times I tried to contribute. I always liked his way of doing things, despite complaints from others. I know there are a number of developers who regularly contribute and I hope they can continue developing for it. Personally, I will archive Bram's last patch for posterity.
- cmacleod4 3y agoI have a love/hate relationship with vi and all its offspring, but I use vim pretty much every day - thanks Bram!
- rmrf100 3y agoThank you Bram.
- low_tech_punk 3y agoI'm still teaching GPT to understand Bram's magic. It is a work in progress, in memory of our Bram. ```gpt4.out ¶ Bram Moolenaar, gone, VIM's mastermind fades to black, :wq, his final song. ¶ In modes, he danced free, Insert, normal, visual, Code's choreography. ¶ H, J, K, L's guide, Cursor moved, not the fingers, His wisdom inside. ¶ Undo, redo, swap, Infinite text maze tamed, His legacy, non-stop. ¶ Bram's journey, :q! done, Yet in each VIM keystroke, His spirit lives on. ```
- westurner 3y agoFrom https://www.reddit.com/r/vim/comments/3tluqr/my_list_of_applications_with_vi_keybindings/ https://www.reddit.com/r/vim/comments/3tluqr/my_list_of_appl... : > What are some useful applications with Vim keybindings?
- parham 3y agoRest in peace! I would not be able to function as a dev without Vim. Amazing work
- gpshead 3y agouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu :cry:
- Lapsa 3y agonever knew the guy yet having utmost respect
- faisalhackshah 3y agoVim has been a great companion in my life, thanks Bram. People wonder why this 30 year old piece of software is so beloved. Most will never know. I enjoy typing 'vim' to start it up. I've created aliases for other programs, but not vim. 'v' would work quite well in my setup. I love those 3 letters.
- Ecco 3y agoI wrote the iOS port of Vim and therefore exchanged a few emails with Bram. As you can guess, a very nice person. Thank you for Vim, Bram!
- codetrotter 3y agoBram Moolenaar was the original author, maintainer, release manager, and benevolent dictator for life of Vim. @dang can HN put a black banner for Bram Moolenaar please?
- CodeCompost 3y ago+1
- tetha 3y agoI think you mean ^A
- jasoneckert 3y agoThis is the only vi-able action IMO.
- throwaway290 3y agoPerhaps Dan is more of an Emacs guy.
- b33j0r 3y agoThe only problem is, some users will then be unable to exit, stuck in macro recording mode for eternity. Just as Bram would want :)
- cellover 3y agoHow do I exit this thread? Thank you Sir Moolenaar for this journey.
- raverbashing 3y agoDefinitely deserves a black bar. VIM is definitely is one of those thin tiles that keep Open Source together :wq and RIP
- 1f60c 3y agoIt seems unthinkable that Dang will not bestow this honor upon him. Given that it's currently early Saturday morning, we just have to wait.
- sgt 3y agoIncredibly sorry to hear this. The times I have seen his name.. or thought about who this guy might be, and that he not only is a super programmer but also a humanitarian. Too countless to think about. RIP. @dang I know we don't see the black bar often but I hope it is possible
- gjvc 3y ago@dang I know we don't see the black bar often but I hope it is possible You'll be seeing it *much* more often in the coming years as those of the older generation -- who made such large contributions -- pass on.
- freedomben 3y agoSadly this was my thought too. It's a way to start feeling super old, when the first generation start to die, and very few of the heros of open source have. But we're all getting old...
- j13n 3y agoBram defined the interface I've used to express myself in so many ways since my early teens. His contributions to software development reach far beyond the $EDITOR and pervasive interaction patterns we're all so familiar with. Thoughts are with his friends and family right now. Rest in peace, Mr. Moolenaar. ZZ
- Iuz 3y agoQuite possibly my favorite software. Rest in peace.
- hyyypr 3y agoThank you Bram, you will not be forgotten. RIP
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- gpanders 3y agoAs a long time Vim user I’m extremely thankful for Bram’s creation and stewardship of an incredible piece of software. He gave the world an amazing gift. I’ve interacted with Bram a few times personally in the process of submitting changes to Vim, and I’ve observed many more interactions with others. I always had an immense amount of respect for the way he led the Vim project and interacted with the community. It is not uncommon to see open source software maintainers become burnt out or frustrated, particularly with a piece of software as quirky and complicated as Vim. But Bram was almost always respectful and patient with users and contributors, even when they were not. This is a loss for the software world. Bram, you will be missed.
- l00sed 3y agoThanks for sharing!
- sph 3y agoAs an Emacs user [1] I can only say: RIP and thank you, for making the lives of programmers and engineers worldwide easier, with the healthy competition of Emacs and VIM approaches to text editing. You live as long as your contribution to the world, and you can rest assured that a large part of us will still be using modal editing in our mind-controlled VR spatial googles. :wq -- 1: just this morning I was trying evil-mode once again...
- cod1r 3y agoRIP This man is an absolute legend. <3
- softwaredoug 3y agoVim is fascinating because it revived a kind of wonky tool in vi. I remember learning about the command line and having to use original vi. It was weird. But Bram saw some underlying genius in the tool and revived it. Not just for vim itself, but all the vims, all the tools that have vim bindings, etc.
- keepamovin 3y agoAnd such a genius name too: like Vi improved, but also vim, as in vim and vigor, a fantastic word to have as your companion programming.
- favadi 3y agoSending heartfelt condolences to Bram's family. His last commit is just one month ago: https://github.com/vim/vim/commit/4c0089d696b8d1d5dc40568f25ea5738fa5bbffb https://github.com/vim/vim/commit/4c0089d696b8d1d5dc40568f25.... I wonder who else has access to vim.org and the official git repository and if there will be anyone step up to become vim's BDFL.
- capableweb 3y agoJudging by that the announcement email came from his own email, I'm guessing there has been some sort of redundancy setup done when the medical condition was initially detected.
- em-bee 3y agomore likely a close relative simply got access to his accounts.
- barnbuilder 3y agoI'm worried about this and feel like "vim" as actively maintained software probably also died today.
- ilaksh 3y agoNeovim seems to be going strong. https://github.com/neovim/neovim https://github.com/neovim/neovim
- arp242 3y agoNeovim has a bit of a different mentality compared to Vim; it's not the same project. I don't really want to discus this in detail here as it's not the right location, but I think lots of people would be interested in continuing Vim, rather than having Vim being subsumed by Neovim. We'll have to see how things and the relationship between Vim and Neovim change and evolve in the coming weeks and months.
- manaskarekar 3y agoRIP. Thank you for the tool that I’ve arguably used the longest. It is a software that brings joy each time I use it.
- weinzierl 3y agoOh damn, that makes me sad. I met him once at Vimfest in Berlin. He was such an intelligent and humble guy.
- capableweb 3y agoFew people could probably argue that they helped as many humans in dire situations like Bram did in his life. Vim was the first time I came across "charityware" as vim encourages users to donate to International Child Care Fund Holland on its splash screen, instead of begging for money for itself. I feel a bit of shame when I say that I've only donated to ICCF once over all these years.... As a remembrance of Bram and to thank him for building the editor I've been using for as long as I can remember, I'm doing exactly what he would have wanted me to do, donating to ICCF Holland. If you're a vim/nvim/other edition user, I suggest you to do the same: https://iccf-holland.org/donate.html https://iccf-holland.org/donate.html If you're a (neo)vim user, there is more information at `:help iccf` as well. Thank you Bram for everything. I'm sure your spirit and lines written will stay with me and others for a very long time in the future.
- justin_oaks 3y agoFew contribute so meaningfully to the world through software as Bram did. I donated an amount as if I were purchasing vim as an expensive commercial text editor. For most death announcements on HN, I have to look up who they were. Not this one. I greatly appreciate his work and contributions to the world.
- kibwen 3y agoFor everyone reading this who has ever adored vim, or any of the editors that would go on to be inspired by vim, I can think of no better tribute to Bram than to make a donation to the charity that he spent the better part of his life advocating for.
- diffserv 3y agoThanks for bringing this up! It was a good reminder for me to donate. May he rest in peace.
- arp242 3y agoBram had been spending over 30 years on Vim; and not just "the occasional patch/bugfix", but significant amounts, and almost every single day for some years. The number of people who spent that much time working on Open Source is very small, and the number of people who have spent that much time purely in their spare time is smaller still. In fact, I don't really know of anyone who even comes close to Bram. The number of people who spent this much time volunteering for anything is very small. Bram's effort on Vim was phenomenal and exceptional by any standard. --- I only met Bram in person once, in 2014, when he talked about Zimbu[1]; at some point I must have given a bit of a skeptical look, and he promptly looked at me and asked "oh, you don't agree? Why not?" It was a nice talk with lots of "audience engagement" like this. We spent some time talking during the rest of the day and the next day; we discussed and joked about lots of things; I don't recall talking much about Vim: it just didn't come up. I found him a very friendly, warm, and likeable person. Sven Guckes (who passed away last year) did organize a little "Ask Me Anything" type workshop with Bram, and I discovered Bram struggled remembering the ins-and-outs of some of the lesser used Vim features just as much as the rest of us :-) [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O-QdG2X1Lw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O-QdG2X1Lw)
- 1f60c 3y agoRest in peace, sir. My thoughts are with the entire Moolenaar family and his loved ones.
- virtualsue 3y agoSuch sad news! Condolences to his family, friends and thousands of admirers worldwide. One way to commemorate his life is to donate to the charityware cause he championed: https://www.iccf-holland.org https://www.iccf-holland.org
- slim 3y agothanks Bram, you're a legend
- nixie 3y ago:q :'( RIP Bram
- drumhead 3y agoAn absolute legend of computing, you fire up Vim you have his unforgettable name.RIP
- lemper 3y agorest in peace, bram. thanks for all you've done to software world. you will be missed by many, including those Ugandan kids whose lives have been changed for the better. to the bereaved, I send you my deepest condolences.
- CraftedByPeter 3y ago:q RIP and thank you. Thoughts are with his loved ones right now.
- aspyct 3y agoWow that hits rather hard actually. I never knew him other than through the welcome message on Vim, but he made one of the tools I rely on the most in my daily life. Thanks Bram, have a good afterlife.
- scop 3y agoI am likewise surprised by how hard this hits. I shouted out loud when I read the headline! Quite a reaction to somebody who I only ever saw one photo of and read the occasional release notes etc. Yet as a vim user, he has been part my daily activities for years. The name Bram Moolenaar has hovered across all my work… Thank you Mr. Moolenaar.
- keepamovin 3y agoYeah, relate. It shows you that with some good software, you can make an impact.
- birdyrooster 3y agoDamn… I have been using Vim for decades and never thought once about the people responsible for it. I need to be more thoughtful of this to acknowledge people’s excellent work.
- sramsay 3y agoAbsolutely. I've written everything in Vim for almost as long as Vim has been around -- three books, dozens of talks and papers, who knows how many lines of code . . . I had been joking on social media a few weeks ago that Vim must be "done" since patches stopped appearing about a month ago. Can't believe that the guy who created maybe the most important tool in my entire arsenal is gone.
- jzb 3y agoYes, very hard. I feel like I knew him - kind of silly given I've never met him and I don't think have even crossed emails with him. Yet I've used his work for decades and I think it's fair to say that there's a lot of him in Vim in a very real way. Wish I'd sent him a note to say thanks. GNU Bram.
- higanbana 3y agoRest in piece Bram, your invention of keybindings will be everlastingly remembered by generations
- BaculumMeumEst 3y agoRest in piece Bram, and my condolences to his family. I hope to see the mainline vim project innovate and thrive so that Bram’s legacy can live on.
- davidkunz 3y agoThank you Bram for giving us software we can love and putting a :smile on our faces.
- unionpivo 3y agoRest In Peace. VIM is still among my top used editors. And Bram was the one that made sure it kept improving and being useful for all those years, since I first used it on my Slackware install.
- bbkane 3y agoGoofing around with Vim as a quiet "rebellion" to my professor demoing EMACs went much further than the joke I started it as - it became a gateway drug to me using the terminal for almost everything and understanding how computers work at a much lower level. Thank you Bram for the work you put into Vim!
- zvmaz 3y agoSincerely saddened. Farewell Bram, and thank you for all the things you have brought to the world.
- motoboi 3y agoThank you Bram for this amazing software that gave me so pleasure in learning and mastering!
- jprd 3y agoThank you Bram. Thank you for your humanitarian efforts, your generosity, and of course your genius. It is because of these traits that your loss, though I never knew you personally, hits so hard. RIP. :wq!
- jakebasile 3y agoVim and its descendant modes in other editors has drastically improved my life, which maybe is a weird thing to say about a text editor but it's true. I am very sorry to hear of his passing.
- Syssiphus 3y agoIf it's something that you use for a large part of your day, then there is nothing weird about it.
- Lio 3y agoI was just trying to think how to say the same thing but wasn't sure how to say it. Since first discovering Vim back in the 1990s it's been something I've used almost every working day. It's probably my favourite piece of software. Where ever I go, whatever platform I use, whatever I write, I use Vim. Bram's work has made my life better. This is sad news indeed. :(
- f_gg_tk_ll_r 3y ago[dead]
- UncleBill 3y agoHave been using Vim for years since college. It helps me and teaches me a lot. Thank you, Bram. RIP.
- l00sed 3y agoSo sad to hear. Vim got me hooked on programming. It's truly a revolutionary editor, and now has been adopted and improved by so many others. Bram really touched so many people through Vim. Thank you for your immense contribution to computer science. RIP.
- 0xfedbee 3y agoRIP Bram. Thanks for creating the best text editor the world’s ever seen!
- t43562 3y agoHow many of us will be remembered like this? Not too many, I imagine. I'm teaching my 8 year old daughter to use VIM. As an African, what he has done puts me to shame.
- pixelmonkey 3y agoBram was an inspiration, not just for developing vim, which so many of we programmers used to get into a flow state programming. But also for his work on charity. Deserving of the black banner!
- HappyJoy 3y agoRIP :q
- weirdsmiley 3y agoI had interacted with him over the mailing list a few times and he was always very helpful. I'll miss him. ZZ
- selectnull 3y agoRest in peace, Bram. Thank you for Vim.
- user3939382 3y agoThere is a collection of people and cultural artifacts that are contemporary to us, though usually not our exact age. They pass away, one at a time, until we are all that is left of the world we once defined, a world that eventually is gone. Bram’s passing is another chip at the passing of the world I knew, where vim was new. Thank you Bram for your excellent and enviable contribution to computing.
- Exuma 3y agoHoly fuck… what… no!
- pgporada 3y agoRIP, thanks for all the hard work and care.
- yuuta 3y agoRIP
- bloopernova 3y agoThank you, Bram, for vim. Thank you for how useful it is, and how rock solid it's always been for me. No feeble attempt at humour from me, just heartfelt sadness and gratitude.
- tzhenghao 3y agoLoved his "7 Habits For Effective Text Editing 2.0" (2007) talk and humor [1] "How many of you are mostly using Emacs?" a bunch of raised hands "Okay, we'll try to convert some people today!" RIP, Bram Moolenaar [1] - https://youtu.be/p6K4iIMlouI https://youtu.be/p6K4iIMlouI
- steinuil 3y agoA lot of this advice is about turning vim into a "modern" text editor with a language server configured. I used to use vim but lately I switched to Helix, which is basically vim but with all the good features and plugins built into it and without a configuration/extension language. Almost all of the features are easily discoverable by just pressing spacebar, and the rest by browsing the (small) documentation, and I can think of a way to do all the things Bram talks about from within Helix, often better (because it's relying on the language server). Still, the main point about learning your tools by detecting inefficiencies and searching for a better way is always valid, and I'm sure that all these things Vim was already doing at the time helped pave the way for modern editors. RIP.
- tlamponi 3y agoThat presentation is also available as PDF with notes from his homepage: https://moolenaar.net/habits_2007.pdf https://moolenaar.net/habits_2007.pdf
- bastardoperator 3y agoI want to see his .vimrc, RIP
- mrhashem 3y agoNow I can exit Vim...
- mfrw 3y ago:wqa! RIP Legend :( [Mods - Request for black bar, please]
- Galicarnax 3y agoFor me, Bram is probably among names like Tarkovsky, Stravinsky and Attenborough, who greatly affected the way I see/feel life. R.I.P.
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- keepamovin 3y agoOH NO!!!! This guy literally changed my life by making vim. I could not imagine coding without vim!!! It's weird but coding in vim is going to take on a new significance now. Each keystroke, somehow saluting him. Very sad.... I think we definitely need the black navbar of mourning.
- vmlinuz 3y agoVery sad news - been using vim for decades, still use it every day as pretty much all of my colleagues use VSCode... I met him briefly at FOSDEM 20+ years ago, will have to see if I can find the photo I took of him looking slightly bemused when I showed him vim running on a Linux-ified iPaq with a touchscreen and no keyboard! As others have said, time to make a donation in his honour.
- peter_retief 3y agoWhat a legend, the VI message stood out in my memory of Bram, what a kind and clever person.
- beanjuiceII 3y agoWow ;_; when I see our legends pass like this (you feel like they will live forever), it reminds me how short of a time we have here. Condolences to family and friends, he was truly exceptional in life. :wq
- lifeisstillgood 3y agoRIP
- sanix-darker 3y agoAs a newbie user of vim, i have to admit, this is a really sad news for all open-source community ! RIP Bram !
- bvrmn 3y agoRIP. Vim is my main editor for 15 years already. I spend several hours in Vim everyday. It's so ingrained in my soul, I can't imagine how to work without Vim.
- jquinby 3y ago:wq! Eternal rest grant unto him. May perpetual light shine upon him.
- severino 3y agoVery sad to read this. Thank you, Bram, and see you in another life!
- pinion247 3y agoRIP, Bram. Thank you, from a 22-year Vim user.
- bhgtopt 3y agoLove vim
- xwdv 3y agoI will likely use some form of vim as my editor for the entirety of my professional life. Wish I could say I wrote software that would be used for an entire person’s lifetime. RIP Bram, you did good.
- TheUnhinged 3y agoRIP Bram
- dwb 3y agoDamn. Rest in peace. Thank you for your hard work on my favourite editor. All the best to his loved ones.
- grrandalf 3y agoRIP. I started using Vim on Slackware iirc. Haven’t stopped. I checked out various other clones back in the day — vim was way better afaict. PS: A major reason I use Vim rather than Emacs is that the arrow keys worked in Vim but not emacs. On Slackware. No I don’t use the ijkl keys to move in Vim. :) :) #blubvimmer
- ilaksh 3y agoHmm. I also first used vim inside of Slackware and also use arrow keys in vim. Not sure I've ever run into another person who admitted that publicly. Not that I think it's something that one should actually be ashamed of, it makes total sense. Just not a popular approach.
- trashman 3y agoRIP Bram and thank you. I use VIM every day.
- baz00 3y agoBram wrote the only bit of software that never let me down once. RIP. You've done good to the world.
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- vaibhav135 3y agoRIP Bram the Legend.
- cerved 3y agoThank you Bram!
- hnous927 3y ago[dead]
- bogeholm 3y ago:wq Bram, and thank you!
- JohnMakin 3y agoI've used vim for everything going on my entire career now. It started in my senior year as a CS student - in an operating systems course, we were introduced to a lot of linux stuff and the professor taught Vim as part of his course. At first I rebelled. I chose to develop most of my projects in eclipse/Java at that point and had developed an aversion to the command line. That, plus Vim's learning curve made me hate it at first. Fast forward a year at my first job at an embedded systems shop writing in pure C, all the vets used vim and I saw how fast they were with it and it made me want to learn. I think my first "aha!" moment was when I accidentally entered visual mode and prepended several lines at once with a comment. After that I was hooked, and while I'm typically one of the only ones using pure vim on any team I'm on, inevitably after a year or so at the job people see how I use it and start asking about it.
- marcyb5st 3y agoAs a former colleague, I remember one funny interaction with him. I was sitting in the same desk but on a different floor. One sleepy morning I tried to oust him from his desk and once I recognized him we ended up chatting few minutes about open source at Google and his involvement. Great person and as a Vim user forever grateful for his efforts.
- jrh3 3y agoGod bless you Mr. Moolenaar. VIM is the editor that built me, going on 20+ years now. I only gave once several years ago to help children of Uganda. I will do again in his honor, https://iccf-holland.org/donate.html https://iccf-holland.org/donate.html. :wq
- INTPenis 3y agoStill to this day when I start my daily vim session I see his personal message to donate to the children of Uganda. I've been seeing this message for well over 20 years, my entire career for sure. What an impact to have on IT, and on the world. You're forever remembered Bram.
- etewiah 3y agoNow this is a bit random but many years ago I run into a Dutch couple running some kind of wildlife farm in Ghana. When they found out I was geekish they said a relative of theirs was big in the open source world. Turned out to be Bram. I can't quite remember what the relationship was but since then every time I use vim (not often admittedly ) I think of this Dutch woman looking after a jumble of wild animals in the middle of nowhere...
- caseyw 3y agoWith things like this, you realize how short life is, and sometimes how brittle it can be. I often forget that the people that built the foundation of what we use every day are still with us, and we have a short time to be able to show them appreciation before we say thank you to someone who has gone, if you know of someone that has dedicated time to something that you use, show your appreciation this week. It might be the last time that you have the opportunity to make that human contact. Thank you, sir. <3 vim
- JohnMakin 3y agoFor anyone looking to learn Vim, this is an educational game that's actually pretty fun: https://vim-adventures.com/ https://vim-adventures.com/
- jodrellblank 3y agoSee also https://old.reddit.com/r/vim/comments/lbjw3u/good_guides_on_vim/ https://old.reddit.com/r/vim/comments/lbjw3u/good_guides_on_... It was the 'IRC style tutorial' ( https://www.vi-improved.org/irc-style-tutorial/ https://www.vi-improved.org/irc-style-tutorial/ ) which helped make it click for me. (I feel like that was a lot longer ago than the publish date of 2016).
- Hackbraten 3y agoI loved that website at first but abandoned it in frustration an hour after I subscribed, because turned out it didn’t work with my QWERTZ layout.
- junon 3y agoDang, this deserves the black bar.
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- threemux 3y agoI use vim every day - RIP to a legend!
- anon7331 3y agoSad. I didn't interact with Bram much, but I did have an email exchange with him early in my software developer journey. I submitted a few patches to Vim and he helped me work through them to get them approved/merged. He was very patient and kind even though I was a complete newbie.
- 725686 3y agoMy respects. I use vim daily. So long and thanks for all the fish!
- lenkite 3y agoOnly interaction with him was via mailing list but liked and respected him. Been using VIM for ~20 years now. Upset at his death. Its too early to pass away at just 62.
- lycopodiopsida 3y agoOne of silent heroes of the open-source world - making life of so many people easier and more enjoyable every day. RIP.
- DoneWithAllThat 3y agoIt didn’t occur to me until now that vim is perhaps the oldest tool I’ve used continuously since the early days of my education and career. And I don’t just use it, I use it every single day and have for probably 30 years. Thank you Bram.
- stonekyx 3y agoThe very first time in life that I reported a bug to an OSS project was to Vim, by email to Bram, when I was in high school. Thinking back from now, that was definitely not a good way to report bugs, but Bram was super helpful and responded kindly to this ignorant kid. Thank you Bram, and RIP.
- eigenlicht 3y agoI did exactly the same thing. In fact Bram was the first "well known" developer I ever got into "contact" with. Kept his reply mail to this day. ;)
- lucasfcosta 3y agoBram was really important for me. I remember the joy of learning how to use vim and how easy it was to bond with other fellow users. Who would imagine a text editor could instill such a strong sense of identity into its users? The first time I’ve been to SF I even got a “:w” tattooed on me. Bram, you will be missed.
- pylua 3y agoI was looking for a post like this because I couldn’t agree more. While I didn’t get a tattoo like you , I can’t imagine living without a tool that is one of the most important to my livelihood.
- mkhnews 3y agoRIP and thank you for vim, your effort and for caring about good software. ZZ
- 0xDkXy 3y agoThank you Barm. :wqa! R.I.P From a man who use vim everyday.
- diegofdominguez 3y agoRIP Bram, VIM is an awesome gift to humanity
- jeegsy 3y agoThank you Bram for creating something that is truly useful and we use nearly everyday. May you Rest In Peace. My condolences to his family.
- pard68 3y ago:wq!
- fareesh 3y agoI learned vim as a kid in the 90s and used it my entire life. I've never used anything else. The hours it has saved me through its efficiency and productivity has probably extended my lifespan. Vim was born out of a simple system and a deep empathy and understanding of what a developer really needs. In every line of code, every efficient series of keystrokes, his legacy endures. May it last forever. Rest in peace.
- agumonkey 3y agoRIP vim might seem small on the grand scheme of things (npi), but as an interface to almost anything on a computer and for so long.. it's a real wound to read this saying this as a mostly emacser.. :T_T
- nabogh 3y agoIt's so surreal to me that I can look at his commit graph on github and see he was working right up until very recently. Rest in peace. https://github.com/brammool https://github.com/brammool
- maximilianburke 3y agoThat's an especially poignant view; you can see the activity start strong last year and then fade out until it just ends. Rest in peace, Bram; thank you for your work.
- u801e 3y agoJust looking at the per month commit counts, it looks like they dropped substantially from February this year compared to the past.
- mickmcq 3y agoI am so sorry to hear this. I will make a contribution today in his memory.
- mickmcq 3y agoDone €100 to https://iccf-holland.org/ https://iccf-holland.org/
- edejong 3y agoIn 2000 we organized a large outdoor LAN party for a week in the middle of nowhere hosting around 600 Unix/Linux aficionados. I was very proud to have found Bram to speak there at our event. On the days ahead I became very anxious to welcome this paragon of open source contributors, but I soon found out Bram was one of the most fun and caring people I had the honour to meet. Not just did he tell us his story of developing vim, he also organised an in promptu quiz on Unix and networking. I have fond memories of Bram and am truly sad to hear he passed away. Bram truly captured the soul of open source.
- Inocez 3y ago> 8: How can the community ensure that the Vim project succeeds for the foreseeable future? > Keep me alive.[1] [1] 10 Questions with Vim’s creator, Bram Moolenaar (2014) https://www.binpress.com/vim-creator-bram-moolenaar-interview/ https://www.binpress.com/vim-creator-bram-moolenaar-intervie...
- sombragris 3y agoRIP, a great guy, a public benefactor and a great coder. I think the black stripe should be on HN today; it's quite justified.
- ezoe 3y agoI had an opportunity to talk to the Bram Moolenaar when VimConf 2018 was held in Japan. First and only time Bram visited Japan. I was there as a volunteer staff, sitting at a reception desk. Although vim is the text editor I use everyday, I'm not that enthusiastic to participate the vim conference. I'm not a vim developer. I don't use some of the advanced vim features. I don't ask much for a text editor. I use vim simply because it's available in all environments I could possibly use. I was a volunteer staff because I was asked by one of my colleague at that time who was a serious vim user and organized the VimConf. So I didn't have a plan to talk to Bram at all. There were so many Japanese vim developers and serious vim users there who want to talk to Bram. This may be the first and last chance to talk to Bram in person for them. I don't want to waste the precious time for them. Then, I learned at the conference that recent vim release includes termdebug plugin which allows vim to behave as a gdb frontend. Since I am a C++ programmer, I started playing with it. Then, I quickly found a bug. termdebug assume there's only one function for a name and couldn't handle C++ function overloading. I discussed this issue with Bram Moolenaar in a spare time. There aren't many other things I can tell about Bram. At the after party of VimConf 2018, Bram absolutely refused to use a cup and drink beer directly from a beer bottle. It wasn't a small 333 ml beer bottle. It was a big 633 ml beer bottle. Before the VimConf 2018, Bram went to climb Mt. Fuji during his stay in Japan.
- capableweb 3y agoHere is photos from Bram when they were at the Japan trip: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMc4NF8j66ohinWutVHktl4hHaw-c25JsFT1S-lSGcrb_oVfkY4MAgbEoWl2qC06A?key=Xzc0NW9STlhubTJrM2lyUVlQdDhHSW42N0tidG5n https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMc4NF8j66ohinWutVHktl4... "Tokyo 2018 (Nov 17 – 25, 2018)" His website has a lot of other albums he published for everyone to enjoy: https://moolenaar.net/albums.html https://moolenaar.net/albums.html
- ezoe 3y agohttps://photos.app.goo.gl/BtVZMoZjdEmPKCeu9 https://photos.app.goo.gl/BtVZMoZjdEmPKCeu9 This photo remembers me a funny discussion at that time. One of the participants said he use vim to write .emacs file. "Why don't you use Emacs for that?" I asked. "Because if I have to edit .emacs, that means emacs isn't configured the way I liked it. So I use vim in that case"
- dmarinus 3y agoSo sad, I had the honor to meet Bram at a FOSS talk with RMS which he organized in Amsterdam RAI. I'll never forget that day. I've been using VIM for a many decades and I'm sure to keep using it for a long time. Many thanks for all the work and condolences for his family.
- wufocaculura 3y agoThat's a sad news for the Vim community. Given that development was basically focused around Bram, it makes me wonder, what will happen with Vim now? WIll someone step up and continue to develop Vim, or it will fade away and Neovim take its place?
- sigzero 3y agoI believe there is a development team actually in place but they probably have to decide the way forward now. I have little doubt it will continue.
- The_Colonel 3y agoLooking at the commit history, Bram was responsible for the majority of the development. Interestingly, the second most active vim contributor is a neovim developer (possibly porting fixes from neovim).
- nequo 3y agoIt seems to me that others often did preparatory work on the patches that he committed. For example: https://github.com/vim/vim/commit/c12e4eecbb26cedca96e0810d3501043356eebaa https://github.com/vim/vim/commit/c12e4eecbb26cedca96e0810d3... https://github.com/vim/vim/issues/12553 https://github.com/vim/vim/issues/12553
- nichos 3y agoHopefully something is in place with this official repo and we don't get a bunch of forks all over github. RIP Bram
- _blz2 3y agoThis is indeed a huge loss. I've used vim for over a decade now. Configuring and tinkering with it was and is always the first thing I do when I get a new machine. He's also a good person from the small amount of interaction I've had with him on github.
- ur-whale 3y ago:wq Huge, huge loss.
- Crontab 3y agoI will forever be grateful for Bram's contribution to the world of free software and to humanity. I hope he will be remembered for a long time.
- yc-kraln 3y agooh what! oh no :( he finally figured out how to quit
- pmoriarty 3y agoWhat would you all think of naming an annual award for the greatest contribution to vim in Bram's honor?
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- freedomben 3y agoA great part of this is that all up and down the stack that makes chatgpt, were people using vim to write the code
- taf2 3y ago:wq
- taf2 3y agoI remember it was 1997 when my older brother gave me his .vimrc file and explained to me a few of the basic commands. It took a few years but have used vim exclusively ever since. I’m deeply saddened by our loss in the open source community by this and wonder what contributions we can carry forward
- Pseudomanifold 3y agoThanks for everything, Bram. Your memory will be a blessing.
- enneff 3y agoRIP Bram. I enjoyed meeting him in Zurich one time. He was good company. A really humble, sweet guy.
- lolive 3y agoWent to his website. There was an interview of him from 2022. The answer that really stroke me was not about Vim, but about software craftmanship vs professional programming: « I have been working for a company where quite a few managers, educated in physics and mechanics, thought the software was just the same as what they knew and they could decide how to make it. That company went downhill and was eventually taken over. The same happens in places where decision-makers can get away with failure, such as in government. The people writing the code probably just make sure they get paid and then run away from the crime scene. On the other end of the scale are people who want to write beautiful code, spend lots of time on it, and don’t care if it actually does what it was intended to do or what the budget was. Somewhere in between, there is a balance. » I am not so sure about the last sentence. But the rest is SO true!
- bennyschmidt 3y ago> people who want to write beautiful code, spend lots of time on it, and don’t care if it actually does what it was intended to do There was a funny React framework a while back that has all kinds of cool state management and this and that, but it renders nothing. For the developers who spend more time theorizing, migrating, refactoring, than shipping. It's funny when people go back and forth about the time complexity of a click handler (that is debounced anyway), and they arrive at the optimal solution, but when you use the app the entire thing is super clunky lol where is the concern for time complexity of me using the product xD
- asveikau 3y agoI feel it's much more common to create abstractions without regard for performance cost of the abstraction. So keeping time complexity down, even for a piece that doesn't matter much, is above average for this sort of thing.
- hock_ads_ad_hoc 3y agoCreating abstractions without considering performance is probably the correct approach. It’s much better to at least start with a program with enough abstraction to allow reasoning about how things should work. Save performance concerns for when optimization is seen to be necessary.
- nachiketrc 3y agoRest in Peace! Thank you Bram for the wonderful contributions!
- tortillasauce 3y agoRest in peace, Bram! Thank you so much for vim!
- jestarray 3y agoat least he went out with a :wq in this world, and not a :q!
- nunez 3y agoThat's really sad, but I'm glad that his legacy will vastly outlive him. Thanks for vim, Bram, and rest in peace!
- azemetre 3y agoI was first introduced to Vim from a Jeffrey Way tutorial about HTML5 way back in 2010 or maybe 2008 when first learning about programming. Ever since then I've used Vim throughout my career, even somehow convincing others to use it too. I've been using neovim for the last 5 years but can still hop on a colleagues machine or into a server and still be productive. Easily the most important piece of software I've ever used in my life, since it has allowed me to make a living. RIP Bram Moolenaar.
- _joel 3y agoSo long Brad, probably the single most used tool I've used over my career. Thanks for that! I guess he finally learnt how to exit vim
- mikece 3y agoBram didn't exit vim; he's simply stopped typing. The spirit of Bram will always be with us.
- renewiltord 3y agoIn the initial sponsorship for Neovim some people asked why none of us sponsored Vim. So I went to give an equal amount there and found that he wanted it to go charity. That was the first time I'd encountered charityware. Mind blowing tool, vim, and I am very impressed by him. A legend of the field.
- phelipetls 3y agoI probably wouldn't enjoy programming as much as I do if it wasn't for Vim. Thank you.
- rochak 3y agoHard agree. Vim made typing/editing a pure joy.
- gm3dmo 3y agoShould you want to donate, if you have the Benevity giving platform through your employer then you may be able to double any donation through that: "Stichting ICCF Holland" Is the name I search for.
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- isaacremuant 3y agoAs a long time vim user: Thanks Bram & Godspeed.
- dawidpotocki 3y agoVim has completely changed the way I use computers and I'm not able to thank Bram enough for this. Even though I have switched to Neovim and never met him, it makes me deeply sad. :wq
- tristor 3y agoLearning Vim was one of the most important steps in my life in the journey to escaping Windows and learning Linux/UNIX. I still use Vim every day as my primary text editor and it’s the first thing I install on a new Mac. RIP Bram, I have made a donation to ICCF Holland in memoriam.
- Keyframe 3y agoThank you, Bram!
- omoikane 3y agoVIM is not just my favorite text editor, but my favorite piece of software of all time on all platforms. I have only ever encountered so few minor issues, and Bram fixed them all quickly. He will be sorely missed.
- shriek 3y agoWow really really sad news. When I was first starting to learn vim I thought to myself who would go through all these troubles just to write some text on an editor when there are better alternatives out there but then I slowly started to understand how it really worked and how you can slowly craft it to your liking. Now, I spend almost 90% of my time in terminal and vim and can't see myself working without it. Thank you Bram for playing a big part of my coding life through your contributions.
- stmuk 3y agoLooks like vim should continue! https://groups.google.com/g/vim_dev/c/6_yWxGhB_8I/m/ibserACYBAAJ https://groups.google.com/g/vim_dev/c/6_yWxGhB_8I/m/ibserACY...
- cloudedcordial 3y agoIt pains me to see that the last commit was the beginning of July.
- dlevine 3y agoAt my first job out of university, we were deploying applications on Solaris servers. I had been using emacs as a text editor, and these servers only had vim installed. I mentioned installing emacs to my manager, and he said that learning vim would be a "feather in my cap." I took him up on that advice, which was sage wisdom. I spent a lot of my career using various forks of vim as my primary editor, and still use it when I need to edit a file. Thanks Bram! This world will miss you.
- oddly 3y agoRest in peace Bram, gone, but not forgotten.
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- j3s 3y agothank you Bram. feeling humbled today. rest in peace.
- 2-718-281-828 3y agoseems like dang is using emacs ...
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- sgt 3y agoWe got black bar. It just needed to propagate through the thousands and thousands of edge nodes powering HN.
- samstave 3y agoI cant believe they had the gall to write his obit in emacs! RIP VIM
- kmarc 3y agoI lived in Adliswil, a couple streets away from him. When I learned about the fact that this Legend lives just nearby, I was like a child before Christmas, planning to meet up with him and thanking him for vim. I never did. I hope I would have. :-( RIP, mr Moolenar. :q
- matthewn 3y agoTerribly sad news. Thank you, Bram, for the finest software tool I've ever wielded.
- anonygler 3y agoI worked with Bram at Google. He was an incredibly nice guy. He went out of his way to meet with me on a few different occasions. I wasn’t important at the time—I just made a few UI widgets for Google Calendar, which was his team at Google. Very swell guy who made the world a better place.
- wyclif 3y agoThat's interesting; I didn't know he worked on Google Calendar and I've been a vimmer my entire career.
- sabujp 3y agoRIP Bram, thanks for all the shortcuts! :wq!
- keepamovin 3y agoFuck, reading all these comments i kind of feel we should have told him before he died how much we appreciated him…. :…( Like there should be an open source lifetime achievement award or something. Like the academy awards.
- felipellrocha 3y agoCall it the Moolenaar Award, maybe?
- izolate 3y agoThat thought never really occurred to me, and now I’m feeling a deep sense of regret. BM has had more impact on my career than anybody.
- eellpp 3y agoAs a long time vim user. Thank you and RIP, Bram Moolenaar.
- ronaudinho 3y agoI've since switched to Neovim, but only for the LSP, virtually using it like I would with Vim. Can't imagine working without it, and probably won't enjoy programming as much if not for Vim. Thank you and RIP, Bram.
- ludicast 3y agohere's hoping he had a .swp
- heywoodlh 3y agoI discovered Vim around a decade ago when my IT career was just starting. Since having a friend walk me through how to use it, I have never stopped using it -- and it's not an exaggeration to say that I use it every day. Vim is a piece of software that has changed my life. Rest in peace, Bram, you will be missed. Condolences to Bram's family.
- gsuuon 3y agoI think this is the first time I've shed an actual tear for a famous person passing away.. RIP Bram Moolenaar. Vim was life changing for me and continues to be for many.
- finnh 3y agodonated! thank you, Bram, for our beloved vim
- keveman 3y agoI met Bram in the Google Mountain View office. We chatted for over two hours. He was full of humility and curiosity and more interested in what I was working on (I was working on DistBelief back then). Hats off to a life full of impact and a legacy that will continue to impact programmers all over the world. RIP.
- lefuturiste 3y agoRIP, such a loss
- pseudo_meta 3y ago> Anyone who's used Vim has seen evidence of Moolenaar's generosity. "Vim is Charityware," Moolenaar wrotes in its pioneering license. "You can use and copy it as much as you like, but you are encouraged to make a donation for needy children in Uganda." Moolenaar pioneered the concept of charityware decades ago, and also helped to popularize its adoption. Pioneered one of the most iconic pieces of software in history, and yet did not make a single dime from it. That is truly something to look up to.
- mertd 3y agoFor anyone interested, here is the link to the ICCF charity that I found on the Vim website. https://iccf-holland.org/ https://iccf-holland.org/
- einpoklum 3y agoI have made a donation in memory of Bram Moolenaar, as a token of my gratitude for having vi over the years.
- chromoblob 3y agoHe did, he only gave everything of it to ICCF then.
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- liendolucas 3y agoThis is sad news. I have been using VIM since I don't know when and for no reason I have never made a donation to it and felt a lot of shame. Just made it to ICCF Holland few minutes ago. RIP Bram and thank you for VIM! :wq
- pseudo_meta 3y ago> Anyone who's used Vim has seen evidence of Moolenaar's generosity. "Vim is Charityware," Moolenaar wrotes in its pioneering license. "You can use and copy it as much as you like, but you are encouraged to make a donation for needy children in Uganda." Moolenaar pioneered the concept of charityware decades ago, and also helped to popularize its adoption. Pioneered one of the most iconic pieces of software in history, and yet did not make a single dime from it. That is truly something to look up to.
- Gunax 3y ago:q but always:w
- wenc 3y agoBram Moolenaar XX = :wq
- toomuchtodo 3y agoRelated: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37013887 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37013887
- camgunz 3y agoIf I'm honest, I don't know if I like programming or I just like using Vim. Thanks for everything Bram.
- stevefan1999 3y agoHe finally :q vim, but with an !
- u801e 3y agoI've been a vim user since 2004 when I had to use it as part of the introduction to UNIX course. Thank you Bram for writing, maintaining, and improving vim over all these years.
- armatav 3y agoThat’s quite young, what a shame - Vim is amazing.
- leahlibre 3y agoHe was a great man. He will be missed.
- ymgch 3y agoRest in peace, Bram.
- gitfan86 3y agoAmazing guy, I've been using vim daily for decades. I donated 5k to his charity a few years ago as a thank you. He sent a personalized thank you email. https://iccf-holland.org/ https://iccf-holland.org/
- olibrook 3y agoVim tortured and delighted me for many years. I still use it all the time - wild how much space it occupies in our minds. Thanks Bram!
- kalium-xyz 3y agoEmacs just keeps on winning* *I use vim on a daily basis and its very sad to see Bram go.
- maister 3y agoReading this headline has hit me unexpectedly hard :( Black banner please.
- orsenthil 3y agoBram influenced me. The splash screen that encouraged donation to charity caught my attention like nothing else. Inspired by that splash screen, I started volunteering my time and donated money to many causes that I cared about. I once had a brief interaction with Bram. He clearly said, he didn't need any money and encouraged all donations to causes he cared about. In one case, $10,000 to Kilbale children center, he volunteered with.
- ArcMex 3y agoSad news. I am grateful for Vim and for Moolenaar. Deepest condolences to family, friends and the community.
- ruuda 3y agoI met Bram once, at an open source fair at Google’s Zürich office. At the fair everybody could show off their projects. There was one person who had built some kind of AST editor/IDE, where the unit of editing was not the file, but functions floating around in a workspace. He was showing this to Bram, but I don’t think he realized who he was talking to. When he asked “so, what do you think?”, Bram answered “Hmm yeah, I’m more of a vi-type of person.”
- robertlagrant 3y agoThat's a great anecdote!
- jasonhansel 3y ago:wq. Thanks for keeping Vim copyleft.
- atamyrat 3y agoFor me, vim means muscle memory. I can say that it has become part of me! RIP Bram Moolenaar
- rochak 3y agoThere are extremely few people whose software transformed my life as much as Vim did. I know people would say that Vim is just an editor, but to me it rekindled the spark by giving me the direction I was looking for in this limitless world of computers. The fact that something can be so damn powerful and precise under the hood while coming across as just a blank screen with a blinking cursor changed the way I thought about software. I know this community took you for granted sometimes, but I couldn't be more thankful for this incredible piece of technology and the way you used it to give back even more to the community. Thank you, Bram.
- throwawaymeta01 3y agostill use vim every day. worked with him ~decade ago. this hits hard. does anyone know if his family needs help/is there a way to help out? i would love to give back if possible.
- praptak 3y agoI met him in the Google Zurich office. He led an "Open Source at Google" talk as part of orientation for our group. Probably the best person to lead that talk at that time.
- trextrex 3y agoWow, the comments on Slashdot are such a train wreck. Didn't realise Slashdot had become so bad.
- jahsome 3y agoI'd hardly call one or two virtue signalers a "train wreck" or "so bad" I didnt find much supporting what you claim. It's possible whatever your referring to was cleaned up. I only saw one apparently negative post, which was deleted or hidden. I have been saddened more and more by platform after platform devolving into nonsensical bickering. I'm almost entirely off social media at this point for that reason. Having said that, I feel it only makes it worse when people division out of proportion making hyperbolic and sweeping generalizations. I feel like being unrealistic about signal to noise ratio only empowers the trolls.
- nperez 3y agoI started using vim about 12 years ago during my first dev job, after challenging myself to learn enough of it to use it for a day. It's very possible that my muscle memory will retain vim keybindings for the rest of my life. His impact on so many people is the kind of thing that motivates me to write software.
- steveBK123 3y agoVim is my daily driver, I'm sorry to hear we've lost Bram so young.
- pxc 3y agoI took all my notes in VIM for several years in college. To this day, I use Evil mode, Tridactyl, and various other tools inspired by the modal editing that VIM so advanced, and VIM itself remains a part of my toolkit on every system I use. I expect it will always be with me in some form. RIP, Bram.^[:x
- jonaustin 3y agoVim improved and changed my life for the better more than any software except Linux itself. I'll probably use vim (or an editor inspired by it) for the rest of my life; it's Way of editing text changes everything. Rest in peace, Bram.
- indigodaddy 3y agoAnyone have a favorite video/presentation of Bram’s?
- fernandotakai 3y agovim absolutely changed me as a developer. it showed me a whole different way of editing code. it's weird because i don't know him, but his death absolutely hit me hard. rest in peace <3
- felipellrocha 3y ago:wq :(
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- yowlingcat 3y agoI've spent most of my schooling and career using Vim in one form or another. It's as close to an instrument that I don't even need to think about using and can just follow muscle memory as anything I've ever worked with. It's perhaps my most important tool as an engineer. So much of its design is clear as the brainchild of Bram, so hearing this makes me sad. I hope Bram knew how many lives he touched.
- tmountain 3y agoI am such a huge fan of Vim that I ran a Vim blog and posted daily tips for several years (will not mention it by name because I do not want to self-promote in this thread). I don't have much to say besides the fact that I feel like we've lost a "giant" in the open source world, and Bram's contributions as a software engineer, and more importantly, a fantastic human being, will not be forgotten. :help uganda
- itsmartapuntocm 3y agoI’ll do it for you, I’d be interested in reading that blog.
- Aachen 3y agoCould mention the site in profile btw. Afaik it's common/good practice to have some sort of way to get to a contact method in one's profile
- tmountain 3y agoThanks, added.
- sailorganymede 3y agoI have benefited so much from Vim and I am forever grateful for the incredible work Bram has done. Thank you so much, and rest in peace.
- kris42 3y agoThanks and RIP.
- gigatexal 3y agoAs a huge fan of vim and now neovim (which would not exist without the amazing work of Bram and others on vim) I am saddened. I didn't really know about him until I started reading about him in the comments to this post and wow, he seemed like a person I wish I could have known either as a friend or colleague or as a mentor or any combination thereof, seems we could all learn a bit from his example as it seems he remained cool under pressure and dedicated a lot of his time to vim the editor we all love. Condolences to his family and friends and mates at Google.
- SJetKaran 3y agoI use vim almost every single day, and use vim-dialect in every other editor I use. I'm thankful for its existence and to Bram for developing it.
- robertlagrant 3y agoI was introduced to vim at university around 2001. I wasn't great with it, but back then I occasionally was doing some basic sysadmining, and also sometimes hand-editing websites live over SSH and it was the best tool for me. I've started using it again in 2022 and am enjoying the experience! Thank you Bram.
- TonyStr 3y agoR.I.P. Today is the day to donate to ICCF.
- benreesman 3y agoPersonal Anecdote: When I was first getting started in software I was very much part of the "I can think faster than I type" school and I had the good fortune to fall in with some really serious hackers, one of whom was an absolute wizard with `vim`. He was a very humble guy, so it was some time before I learned he was in no small part such a `vi` pro because he had written a real vi, it was called `xvi` and I gather that it was around the time that `vim` was taking off. I asked him why he used `vim` if he had written `xvi` and I'll never forget his reply: "Writing a `vi` is something any programmer can do if they put the effort in, writing a `vi` as good as `vim` is something only people like Bram can do. Obviously I'm going to use the better tool." Bram changed the lives and careers of so many of us, myself included. I never interacted with him personally but from everything I've ever seen he was humble, brilliant, helpful, and took his craft as seriously as anyone I've ever heard of. RIP Legend.
- thewakalix 3y agohttps://martinwguy.github.io/xvi/ https://martinwguy.github.io/xvi/
- kmarc 3y ago> Bram changed the lives and careers of so many of us True. > [...] he was humble, brilliant, helpful, and took his craft as seriously as anyone I've ever heard of I start to think that this is not a coincidence. These excellent people, the "brilliant, but humble" ones are the ones that changed my (and possibly others') lives and careers. Mr Moolenaar, many other FOSS devs (maintainers), university professors (I'm sure I'm not the only lucky one who experienced this), all the real silent "rock stars".
- anon432q 3y agoMy personal theory is that "humble" people are more open to ideas and collaboration with others. I've seen too many people with big egos who stagnate as developers. They were the top of their class in school and were used to being the "smartest" in the room. When they start working, they often make a toxic work environment and can be a huge negative impact. Unfortunately their confidence makes them more appealing to the management and many are promoted to positions where they have even less reasons to listen to others "below them" and eventually stop improving Those that are humble and eager to learn and work with others are a huge boost to the team. The mythical 10x programmer may not exist, but a single individual can certainly make a 10x team.
- JadeNB 3y agoThank you, Bram Moolenaar, for literally changing the way that I interact with my text editor, and hence with my computer. I remember seeing a vim user for the first time, and just being in so much awe of what he could accomplish that I sat down immediately and started learning vim myself. I'm still on that learning curve, many years later. Tangentially, is there any easy way to find out whom the black banner is for other than trial and error? Here I know because I searched for "died" on the front page and it brought me to this thread, but often I just find myself feeling a sense of dread at whom we've lost without being able to figure out who it actually is.
- srivmutk 3y agoGod ... this hit me like a pile of bricks. Bram has probably had one of the biggest impacts on development out of basically anyone. I mean not just Vim, which was genius in its own right, but his work with the ICCF and the concept of charity-ware. My deepest condolences to his family. Anybody set up a HN donation drive for ICCF Holland?
- shrimpx 3y agoWow this came out of nowhere. :( I had no idea he was struggling with a health issue. Some context: https://groups.google.com/g/vim_dev/c/ivkq22t3LQM https://groups.google.com/g/vim_dev/c/ivkq22t3LQM
- matheusmoreira 3y ago> Vim is like a son to me :-). Huge respect. Thank you so much for everything, and rest in peace.
- inDigiNeous 3y agoBram was a a legend. So many people dying right now. Hopefully it was not the same cause that so many other people relatively young are dying from right now. Seems he was 62, not so old yet. Wondering what happened to him ? RIP, I've spent more time in Vim than any other software for sure, still use it to edit my journals and editing single files when needed.
- shrimpx 3y ago> the same cause What cause is that?
- inDigiNeous 3y agoIt is a cause that cannot be discussed here, without getting downvoted to oblivion.
- steve-chavez 3y agoI remember feeling like a reached a next level as a software engineer once I started using Vim. It's been almost 10 years now and I still use it (through NeoVim and neovim-qt). Thank you so much Bram!
- teruakohatu 3y agoI am greatly saddened by this news. Bram was a good person as well as a titan of open source. He will be missed.
- 01az 3y agoIt breaks my heart to hear this sad news. I use Vim every day in my work. This is to say how grateful I am. I would like to offer my sincere condolences to his family and friends. May he rest in peace.
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- kilowatt 3y agoI learned vim young enough that I'll probably die editing text this way—RIP Bram.
- sandGorgon 3y agoRIP. This makes me really really sad today. I first used vim when i was in college over 25 years back. And it was magical. It was my first tryst with what a text editor should be. My .vimrc is 25 years old :(
- LorenzoGood 3y agoRip
- afirium 3y agoRest in peace, Bram...
- otterpro 3y agoI've been using Vim for the past 10 years every single day. I don't know any other software that I've used daily, with exception to the OS. While I come from the old school vi days, Vim really became the ultimate productivity in editing everything.
- soulofmischief 3y agoSharing a piece of advice Bram gave to me once: "It appears you think that everybody is like you. But that's not so." I didn't take the advice well at the time, but now, a little older and wiser, I understand. Thank you, Bram. Thank you for vim, for your time and dedication, and for taking the time to deposit a small amount of your wisdom into my brain. Sorry for being a dick.
- Aachen 3y agoIt's a hard piece of advice to make use of. I couldn't say whether I assume everyone is like me or not: it really depends on what we're talking about. Are you okay with sharing what it was about concretely? That may be more of a takeaway, to learn in which way people aren't all alike, than the general statement that not everyone's the same
- soulofmischief 3y agoIt was in response to some UX considerations for a feature I wanted to patch into vim. I must have had a bad week, I was needlessly combative after an initially abrasive response from another contributor who closed my issue without consideration. Bram stepped in and finally got the conversation moving. We couldn't come to an agreement on how to implement it in the most robust way... meanwhile over at neovim a PR was submitted and merged, and a backwards-compatible solution provided within 3 days of me filing an issue. :-)
- tonywoode 3y agoclassic line. Do you think he'll be remembered for his struggles with the perils of open source feature requests, as well as for vim itself? Largley because of the keybindings, Vim was a perfect storm for this: maybe the epitaph is "he could never figure out how to quit vim either". +1 for the Moolenaar award to show appreciation for people whilst they're still alive and coping with the rest of us all being dicks....
- soulofmischief 3y agoIf his epitaph isn't something along the lines of ":wq", I'd be very disappointed.
- uean 3y agoPersonal anecdote: I had lived and worked in southern Uganda with a Canadian organization called Kibaale Children’s Fund (now Kuwasha). One day Bram came by our location. We talked a bit - someone told me he was influential and “worked for google or something” and then I learned his real identity and the software he was a part of. I was just on the brink of beginning a career in IT at the time and later in life as my skills and toolset grew I realized his significance. He never spoke of VIM in person during our time and was an incredibly humble quiet man, dedicating his time to helping children in need through ICCF Holland, which operated out of the same school I was working with as I recall. I found Bram incredibly genuine, and was also highly impressed with the ethics he brought to his efforts in the local work in Uganda (where it is typical to see fundraising dollars sliced and diced with admin-fees - ICCF turned every cent of a dollar back into the community.) He will be missed by many in that part of the world for such a massive impact he was able to have through funds raised through VIM. May he rest in peace.
- tomcam 3y ago> in Uganda (where it is typical to see fundraising dollars sliced and diced with admin-fees - ICCF turned every cent of a dollar back into the community.) That’s very good to hear. I donated, but not very much – I assumed that their money would end up going to the wrong places. How did Bram manage to avoid this?
- uean 3y agoI shouldn’t speak for Bram or ICCF but can point you to the financial docs which give a great explanation https://iccf-holland.org/iccf.html https://iccf-holland.org/iccf.html From KCFs perspective where I worked, during my time there, I fundraised my salary (expenses) personally “door to door” to keep any funds donated to the organization going direct to the kids and community. I understood this was the case for others as well. I believe Bram paid for flights out of his own pocket.
- capableweb 3y ago> I assumed that their money would end up going to the wrong places. How did Bram manage to avoid this? From the LICENSE (https://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/uganda.html#license https://vimdoc.sourceforge.net/htmldoc/uganda.html#license): > Compared with other organizations that do child sponsorship the amounts are very low. This is because the money goes directly to the centre. Less than 5% is used for administration. This is possible because this is a small organization that works with volunteers. [...] > How do you know that the money will be spent right? First of all you have my personal guarantee as the author of Vim. I trust the people that are working at the centre, I know them personally. Further more, the centre has been co-sponsored and inspected by World Vision, Save the Children Fund and is now under the supervision of Pacific Academy Outreach Society. The centre is visited about once a year to check the progress (at our own cost). I have visited the centre myself many times, starting in 1993. The visit reports are on the ICCF web site.
- srik 3y agorip bram, you will be remembered.
- _andrei_ 3y agoDamn life, super sad, I feel like a silly chump [1] staring at the screen with an empty mind. [1] https://www.moolenaar.net/bright.html https://www.moolenaar.net/bright.html
- kjuulh 3y agoThis hit me more then I thought it would. I have never interacted with Bram, and I haven't used his software for long. But I love the legacy he left behind, the software industry is better for it. My condolences to his family.
- enriquto 3y agoReally sad to hear this... My first donation as a late teen to free software, was to the ICCF Uganda, thanks to vim's charityware license. It was maybe around 1997 or 98. Later versions of vim used a formal free software license, but still off-band encouraging donations to the ICCF. I've always been a bit skeptical to the whole concept of charity, but I respected Bram Moolenaar so much due to his work on vim that I trusted his judgement. I kept donating to the ICCF for a few years until he was hired at google. I was also deeply honored to see my (tiny, insignificant) minority language on his page for the word Mooleenar in many languages [0]. As a matter of respect and to honour his memory, I will keep using the last version of vim (by his last commit [1]) as my main text editor for as long as humanly feasible. [0] https://www.moolenaar.net/ https://www.moolenaar.net/ [1] https://github.com/vim/vim/commit/4c0089d696b8d1d5dc40568f25ea5738fa5bbffb https://github.com/vim/vim/commit/4c0089d696b8d1d5dc40568f25...
- HL33tibCe7 3y agohttps://www.moolenaar.net/bright.html https://www.moolenaar.net/bright.html :(
- throw_m239339 3y agoRIP, never met him, but I'm a VIM user.
- artursapek 3y agoRIP
- jack_squat 3y agoNo piece of software has influenced my career and my thinking on design, user interfaces, and software quality as much as VIM. VIM made learning to code as fun as playing a game. Thank you Bram, you changed my life.
- collinstevens 3y agowq! he had green squares until his death https://i.imgur.com/MrofIBq.png https://i.imgur.com/MrofIBq.png
- caleb-allen 3y agoSuch a loss. I've spent many hours reading vim's incredible source code and documentation while developing a vim emulation plugin for the Julia REPL. Absolute world class codebase. Moolenaar was an amazing programmer, and his impact will be long lasting. May he rest in peace.
- ravishi 3y agoI have been programming for more than 15 years. I've used vim since the very beginning and it always puzzled me as something so genuinely clever. Using vim is a joy. I feel good while doing it. Bram has been this strong influence in my life all due to his software.
- jvandonsel 3y agoYears ago I sent a donation to his charity and was pleasantly surprised to get a personal thanks from Bram. A wonderful person.
- nazri1 3y agoI know I’m going to miss reading his goofy email signatures. Rest in peace Bram.
- rfmc 3y agoI'm speechless; I never thought I would feel this sad for a person whom I've never met, not even sent a message or an email. I don't even know his face, and yet, the impact of his work on my life is so immense that it feels like sailing at night, and then the lighthouse suddenly goes dark. RIP.
- alarge 3y agoWhen I first entered this field in the 80s, there was a rivalry between vi users (as I was) and emacs users. There was so much about emacs that I couldn't stand, but I'll admit to quite a bit of envy as well. Then, some time around 94 or so, I became aware of this vi clone called vim. My emacs envy could finally be put to rest because this vim could either do (or had on the roadmap to do) everything I had envied from looking over emacs users' shoulders! I became a rabid user and evangelist, immediately downloading each new version, reporting (and occasionally fixing) bugs. For a while when I was working at Sun in the late 90s, Bram and I had an ongoing email dialog. My career path has never really allowed me to significantly work on open source, so I never really made the transition to a major contributor. Many years ago, vim hit peak feature set for me, so I didn't really need to track its development - the version bundled on my work desktop would always suffice and I'd download a new version at home whenever I changed out my home Windows PC. Other than that, I lost track of the community. When I came to Google, I was tickled to find out that Bram worked here, though I never reached out to him personally. Before I knew it, he had retired, and I lost that chance. For over 25 years, I have only ever used vim as my editor - at home or at work. It is the most dependable tool in my box, traveling with me through multiple employers and programming languages. RIP Bram.
- cyphar 3y agoI never had the good fortune to meet him, but his work on vim has had an impact on my life every day ever since I started programming as a teenager. Seeing his name along with the "charityware" license of vim each time I create a new file had an impact on me when I first started using vim and I went to read up on this "odd fellow" using a non-standard license. I eventually stopped paying attention to it after many years of seeing the same screen every day. I didn't have money to donate when I first started using vim, but given the news I've donated to ICCF Holland in honour of his career-long effort to bring attention to the charity. We lost a good one today. My heartfelt condolences go out to his family through this difficult time. I hope they are honoured to know that his work had an impact on so many people's lives. What an enormous loss. Rest in peace, Bram Moolenaar.
- OKodysseas 3y agoThis is sad news. VIM is a software full of passion and love, but it is also culture, and its influence is on par with the greatest works of art.
- Affric 3y agoEven if I use neovim (some great plugins) there are better modals out there now (helix is cool but I hate some of the differences from Vim) Vim is the editor. Vim is how I type. Vim is how I code. Vim is how I think. Made a donation to ICCF in Bram's honour today. It will not be the last.
- polishgladiator 3y agoIn the realm of text editors, Vim has been my unwavering companion for 25 years. It has become an integral part of my daily existence, an inseparable bond that defies the imagination of life without its embrace. Farewell Bram!
- ppqqrr 3y agoI remember the moment I decided to be a vimmer. I was in my first systems class in college, looking for advice. A senior asked me if I knew how to use vim, and with a few flicks of his wrists, split his screen into halves, quarters. I was sold. I still wonder about what I encountered in that moment - a kind of honesty and stubbornness to build something true, universal, empowering. The restraint and confidence it takes, then, to present it as a blank canvas for all to build on. Because vim exists, I know it is possible to build in that spirit; I will always strive to do so myself.
- lukegru 3y agoI'm no longer a software engineer but whenever I write or edit anything it's always in vim, nothing can beat it and it will be in my finger muscles forever. RIP Bram, you will be missed. Money is tight now, but I'll donate $50 just the same to his charity. If you're reading this and haven't yet, match me!
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- jodrellblank 3y agoI don't remember when I found vim or how, but I emailed myself the vim book download link 19 years ago[1]. I've installed it at work on my Windows machines, tried to convince coworkers to use it, enthused about it online, played https://www.vimgolf.com/ https://www.vimgolf.com/ , answered a few vim questions on Stack Exchange sites, and recognised Bram Moolenaar's name for years from the splash screen. RIP. [1] http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/doc/book/vimbook-OPL.pdf http://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/doc/book/vimbook-OPL.pdf [ There are only three names which have been deeply burned into my memory from splash screens; Bram Moolenaar from Vim, Sohrab Ismail-Beigi from Gravity Wars which I played as a kid https://archive.org/details/GravityWars_1020 https://archive.org/details/GravityWars_1020 ( https://ia802805.us.archive.org/16/items/5_Plus_One_-_Gunship/09_gravity_wars_title.png https://ia802805.us.archive.org/16/items/5_Plus_One_-_Gunshi... )) and H. Peter Anvin from Linux boot screen / SYSLINUX https://i.stack.imgur.com/H3emX.jpg https://i.stack.imgur.com/H3emX.jpg ]
- monstertank 3y ago:wq The most programmer way to quit something. RIP
- junegunn 3y agoRest in peace, Bram. I'm forever grateful for your dedication.
- fb03 3y agoOmg.... his Github contribution graph made me cry so hard right now. It was like he was fading away slowly. You'll probably get emotional as I did if you click on this: https://github.com/brammool https://github.com/brammool
- cloudedcordial 3y ago:'( I won't be surprised if he knew about the illness for more than a month but kept the diagnosis private decided to work until the very end.
- zoom6628 3y agoSad day. I have used vim for about as long as it’s been around. Small fraction as a developer, but also for notes and editing huge text files. Always learn something new about it. I salute his contribution to craft and more so his contribution to humanity for support of ICCF. We all can and should follow his example in whatever way possible.
- beepyaus 3y agoI just signed up once I head the sad news. I love Vim (maybe more than it loves me), farewell and thank you. :wq!
- ryanmjacobs 3y agoRest in peace, Bram. I was introduced to Vim by my father when I was a kid, and have been using it for the past 15 years. Your software has touched many lives.
- flykespice 3y agoRest in peace, Bram. I only started vim a while ago but as I got used to it I could feel his vision on making a powerful text editor using only simple keybinds
- DoneWithAllThat 3y agoI just wanted to say I’m really sad there’s no black banner for the whole day. I hope there is tomorrow.
- inception44 3y agoRIP Bram.
- w0m 3y agoEveryone kind of finds their niche program to dig into unhealthily. One of my professors did that with Excel. When I got my first job. I did that with Vim. 15m hacking on my .vimrc for every hour coding that first year I think. Time well spent years later. Thank you Bram.
- kapitanjakc 3y agoOne of our servers are only accessible through PAM vpn in windows machine... It doesn't allow Ctrl+<AnyKey> So I cant edit files using nano... And that's when I started using Vim RIP Bram
- loncat4215 3y agoRest in peace Bram. You forever changed my life.
- _aqmj 3y agoHe has helped many IT people avoid carpal tunnel syndrome and achieve great productivity. Vim has been a gift to humanity and his efforts will be fruitful for decades. He was certainly a true inspiration. May he rest in peace.
- drylight 3y agoAs an old-time Amiga user, I was pleased to read that Vim first appeared on the Amiga.
- hbien 3y ago:wq
- hiyer 3y agoI've read a lot of obituaries on this forum, but this is the first one that affected me on a personal level. I've been using vim for 15+ years now, and probably never gone more than a week without it. RIP Bram. Thank you for making our daily lives that much more enjoyable.
- metta2uall 3y agoMuch gratitude to Bram for being such an inspiration - not just developing a super-useful project but thinking about how his work can be of benefit to the most needy. All his good works continue on!
- lubutu 3y agoVery sad to hear. I interacted with him only a couple of times, but each time I came away with a very good impression of the man. And, of course, I'm very thankful for the editor he created that I've been using daily for over a decade now. He will be missed by many, and I'm sure intensely by some. Rest in peace, Bram.
- maphew 3y agoUsing gvim to automatically edit and re-path thousands of ArcView 3 project files across our network shares in the early 2000s was one my "Behold! I am mighty and a god!" highlight moments. Before that the project was "work with these 25 people and help them open each project and fix the broken paths interactively" (because servers changed). The script ran at night and everyone's things "just worked" the next morning. It was glorious. Thanks Bram.
- ezekiel68 3y agoI'm very sad to read this. I first downloaded vim from a public FTP server in the early 90s on my Amiga computer. My love-hate-love relationship with the editor has followed the arc of my own decades-long hacking adventure. When neovim came out, I stuck with vim out of loyalty and nostalgia, not due to any technical merits -- which was very out-of-character for me. I guess I finally have a good reason to swtich. RIP Bram.
- notorandit 3y agoThanks a lot! :wq!
- tkubacki 3y agoAnother Vim vs Emacs story. One of my CS teachers at PUT (Poznań University of Technology) used to say: Kto ma jaja używa viaja (which rhymes in polish and means: one who have balls is using vim) RIP
- zaikunzhang 3y agoBram was a great man. Vim is a great piece of software. Vim is charityware. Distributed for free, it encourages people to make donations to help children in Unganda. I used to donate some money, starting from 2010. Bram sent you a key corresponding to your donation when he received it, and you could use the key to accumulate the amount of you donations, which would give you some priority in suggesting improvements in Vim. He responded very promptly after donations were made. My last donation on 17 July 2023 did not receive his reply, and I was worried. I am by no means a Vim master, but Vim is virtually the ONLY text editor that I have been using since 2009. I typed my Ph.D. thesis (in Chinese!) and all of my papers/code using Vim. Bram, thank you very much for this masterpiece. Thank you for making your masterpiece charityware, which has inspired me to do the same thing with my code. R.I.P.
- veltas 3y agoRIP, vim is some of the only software that works well that I can use pretty much anywhere.
- Konohamaru 3y agoI remember Bram Moolenar as the guy who had the "Help Children in Uganda!" button in the GUI version of Vim. Were it not for that, surely I would not have remembered the man: he would have just been an anonymous open source software developer.
- cobbaut 3y ago>>> aptitude hold vim For a while, until I get over this. I've been teaching vim to hundreds of people and usually have about a dozen vim sessions open. So soon after Kevin, two names that are my heroes since the 90ies.
- fh973 3y agoPersonal office anecdote ca 2010: while he was walking past our desk area, someone shouted over to him: Bram, what editor are you using for Java? He answered with a smile: Eclipse of course. Very nice guy.
- oblio 3y agoWasn't he quite young? :-(
- thuum7 3y agoI've used vim daily for years, must-have editor. My condolences to his family and friends. Vim-In-Peace..
- giis 3y agovim is my favorite editor. Thank you Bram for your work and time, RIP.
- c20kyo1827 3y agoRest in peace, Bram! QQ Thank you so much.
- herewulf 3y agoThank you for everything, Bram. Your legacy will live far, far beyond you. Farewell. And on an old programming forum (where I wrote all my posts with the Vimperator external editor feature -- in Vim, of course), so my signature went.. :wq
- fragmede 3y ago:x Of course, the truely old school will point out that vi doesn't have :x and that its vim that does. Thanks Bram.
- jaystraw 3y agoI can't access the group, but MK Productions' Killer Bob Saget 2000 changed my life, as a 10 year old learning QBASIC in the 90's. Then seeing his name again as I learned Vim as a young adult. Wow. I'm 37 but never thought he could've been much older than me. RIP, so much respect.