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Kelly Rowland couldn't have used the =HYPERLINK() function to message Nelly
- trillic 3y agoI can finally sleep soundly
- jgrahamc 3y agoGlad to have been of service.
- nickpeterson 3y agoCan you investigate why when I chirp at people on my Nextel they don’t chirp back?
- version_five 3y agoI've had the same problem trying to squirt songs to people with my Zune
- deaddodo 3y agoYou can call it whatever you want, it's still a crime.
- cgb223 3y agoPlease tell me that wasn’t the actual verb Zune used to describe sending music to people
- version_five 3y agohttps://www.newsweek.com/zune-should-go-beyond-squirting-107255 https://www.newsweek.com/zune-should-go-beyond-squirting-107... This was at the height of the RIAA stuff, Zune felt like the legacy recoding industry hired uncool parents to try and design an ipod killer that respected copyright. I belive it also came in brown. Edit: I'm right https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zune_30 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zune_30
- jgrahamc 3y agoI have bad news.
- tedunangst 3y agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WYHDfJDPDc&t=190s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WYHDfJDPDc&t=190s
- dpflan 3y agoThank you. Now do CSI. There must be some aggregate of this type of stuff (tumblr RIP)?
- jgrahamc 3y agoI did do this https://www.tumblr.com/moviecode https://www.tumblr.com/moviecode and this https://behind-the-screens.tv/ https://behind-the-screens.tv/
- joiqj 3y agoThe tumblr site asks me to log in if I want to continue seeing posts after I get to the Futurama one :-(
- jgrahamc 3y agoUgh. That sucks. Time to remove then whole thing from Tumblr and make a stand alone site.
- ClassyJacket 3y agoAww, I was having fun reading that until the forced tumblr login prompt blocked the page. I'm sure they've done the research and run the numbers, but it surprises and saddens me that social media sites have determined they're better off halting user interaction like that than allowing someone to read and become interested in the content.
- jgrahamc 3y agoI am going to migrate off Tumblr. Shouldn't need to login to see stuff I gave them freely. Set up a placeholder site: https://moviecode.xyz/ https://moviecode.xyz/
- stockholm 3y agoMaybe she was just drafting the message in a spreadsheet - that would make a lot more sense than using some advanced Excel feature
- arthurcolle 3y agoDoes that make a lot more sense?
- version_five 3y agoWorking with different businesses I've found that spreadsheets are often used for stuff I would never have thought they would be. Mainly like having large multi paragraph text in the cells, but using the rows and columns to index it. I can see why this is preferred over a linear word style document, there's an opportunity for someone to find a better way that combines spreadsheet like visual referencing with a good UI for entering stuff in the "cells". Excel is awful for this, for example having to remember to press Alt+enter and not being able to scroll smoothly down through cells (so if one cell takes up the screen vertically all you can do is snap to the next). Anyway, drafting a message in a spreadsheet is not that unreasonable or at least not uncommon.
- arthurcolle 3y agowhen I worked at $BANK most traders had reimplemented their own DB using INDEX/MATCH and honestly it is a super powerful model when you get the hang of it. Obviously insane to support "at scale" but it is what it is. #ExcelGangRiseUp
- jrockway 3y agoI did a little bit of this supporting when I worked at a bank. Apparently there is multicast networking that you can plug into spreadsheets, so the "output" of a spreadsheet can be used as inputs on other people's workstations and it updates in real time. (I would say this was before Google Docs was a thing, but I don't think it actually was. But Google Docs wasn't widely used anywhere at the time.) This all blew up one day causing the bank to lose money. My team was supposed to fix it or whatever, because we were the "market data" team. I ended up writing a small program to send a multicast message and record how long it took to come back, and graphed it over time with ... rrdtool! Once the network/transport layer was ruled out as the problem, some trader came back and said it was a bug in their spreadsheet. (This was of course months of early morning conference calls. But having data about the network was a new thing.) (Oh yeah, someone complained that the author of rrdtool's name appeared on all the charts, so I patched it to not do that. Sorry. Sometimes open source is more about the taking than the giving :( I was young and naive.)
- joenathanone 3y agoThe "sheet" file could have been acting as the datastore for a text messaging program, Kelly being so distraught over having not receiving a response in a timely manner from Nelly lead her to check the datastore to make sure that the program wasn't malfunctioning by not showing new messages.
- gowld 3y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilemma_(song) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilemma_(song) "An accompanying music video was directed by Benny Boom and released in September 2002." Apps like that weren't available then.
- joenathanone 3y agoMercury Instant Messager for Nokia 9210 / 9290 "a Jabber based, interoperatable client, is enabled with group conferencing abilities, third party gateway functionality (chatting with users from AOL, Yahoo, ICQ, IRC, and more!), and unlimited contact storage." http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/Mercury_Instant_Messenger_for_Nokia_9210__9290.php http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/item/Mercury_Instant_Mes...
- ryanmcbride 3y agoyou're misunderstanding the point of the exercise
- itishappy 3y agoIn fact, this very music video served as the inspiration for the first messaging app back in 2004. "Managing all these spreadsheets is so cumbersome! Surely, there must be a better way..." - John Messages Clearly, I'm missing your point.
- FredPret 3y agoThis is clearly what she meant to do
- carrja99 3y agoSpreadsheet as a database is a common pattern.
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- sam1r 3y agoFantastic post title. I had to re-read it 3-5 times to make sure I myself was reading correctly — prior to clicking the link.
- Freedom2 3y agoAgreed, an absolutely capital post title! Myself, I read it 8-10 times.
- muh_gradle 3y agoThis is what the Internet is for.
- failuser 3y agoUp next: could have two NCIS agents typed on the same keyboard at the time to defend from a security breach in real time?
- boeingUH60 3y agoCould the screen have displayed "hacked" after a hacker successfully broke into a network?
- MagicMoonlight 3y agoYes, there are monitoring tools for detecting attacks by looking for things like outgoing transmissions for control
- kulahan 3y agoThis will always be my favorite "whats a compooter" scene
- paxys 3y agoOf course. All you need to do is link their minds together like in Pacific Rim. So then it's like one person using four hands on a keyboard to type twice as fast.
- pseudotrash 3y agoYou mean a 4 way crimp? It has never been done before Naboo.
- bink 3y agoWait, is this how you use the three seashells?
- TheIronMark 3y agoOn a related note, could the leader of the team have shutdown a supercomputer by shooting the monitor?
- gavitas 3y agoReddit refugee here. This post convinced me to sign up.
- brianpan 3y agoI'd say this post isn't typical. Check out the guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Welcome to HN!
- kbos87 3y agoAnyone who has ever had to produce some sort of on-screen demo like this knows how miserable, tedious and thankless a task this can be. There was probably a better justification for their choice to use a spreadsheet than we are all imagining!
- dylan604 3y agoI once had to do something very quickly on set to get something "interesting" on the screen. It was a macbookpro available, so I opened up Terminal, set it to the green on black Homebrew color scheme, created a while [ 1 -eq 1 ] type loop that did a find . -name * -print type of command. they were supper happy with it since the characters were meant to be trying to find a file. I just said, this is basically how I'd find a file, so they really like the authenticity. I really enjoed the stories from the advisor for Silicon Valley that went so authentic that the world now has the Not A Hotdog app.
- jgrahamc 3y agoOf course, it’s this blog of mine that’s #1 on HN! If you like this sort of thing: https://www.tumblr.com/moviecode https://www.tumblr.com/moviecode and https://behind-the-screens.tv/ https://behind-the-screens.tv/
- syx 3y agoI loved your moviecode project, spent countless hours during college reading at these random snippets of code :)
- filmgirlcw 3y agoThank you for these blogs! Huge, huge fan of your work on all of this stuff -- and as a Kelly Rowland fan (Beyonce is still better, but Kelly > Michelle), thank you for this as well!
- jgrahamc 3y agoLittle known fact, Kelly is actually the diminutive of Column, her birth name is Column Row-land. Hence why she was using a spreadsheet.
- belfalas 3y ago> Of course, it’s this blog of mine that’s #1 on HN! I mean, you did file it under "well, actually..." - that's canonical for HN. ;)
- aidenn0 3y agoBetter or worse than if it were making the Yogasleep Travel Mini play the theme from Kung Fury?
- jgrahamc 3y agoIt’s a tragedy that my genius is not recognized: https://blog.jgc.org/2023/05/an-unexpected-journey-making-yogasleep.html https://blog.jgc.org/2023/05/an-unexpected-journey-making-yo...
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- highwaylights 3y agoThis is why we don’t get invited to parties. I’m on board with it, but this is the reason.
- qup 3y agoWell, actually, the reason we don't get invited to parties is a lot more involved than that. If you take, for example, the average...
- noman-land 3y agoNow this is journalism.
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- function_seven 3y agoThis is a larger scandal than the whole Ariely/Gino thing going on. We need to pay attention to this.
- amiga386 3y agoKeeping it real, when Weird Al says "I edit Wikipedia", he is editing Wikipedia: https://youtu.be/N9qYF9DZPdw?t=109 https://youtu.be/N9qYF9DZPdw?t=109
- soared 3y agoHilarious marketing/blog post on how to overengineer this so it works on gsheets - https://www.nexmo.com/legacy-blog/2019/01/23/how-to-send-sms-from-a-spreadsheet-dr https://www.nexmo.com/legacy-blog/2019/01/23/how-to-send-sms... Sadly I can’t seem to find any documentation on the nokia spreadsheet program to see what we could with it.
- em-bee 3y agoZawinski's Law: Every program attempts to expand until it can read [or send] mail. [or SMS/text messages] (additions in [] are mine)
- objektif 3y agoThis is hilarious and it resonates with me.
- somat 3y agoThe fun thing is when you get your system correctly setup and the mail daemon runs up and delivers your email to you in nethack. I always thought it would be fun if more games would include thematically correct in universe utilities like this. On second thought I would probably hate it, but it is fun to think about.
- em-bee 3y agoMUDs had/have them. LPMuds in particular had ftp and later http servers built in and pioneered intermud which supported instant messaging, as well as in game mail accross servers. at least for messaging clients existed that also allowed communication with players from outside the game. message boards existed too, not sure if there were any shared across serders. i also don't know if there were bridges to smtp or irc too, would not have been hard to build though (there was apparently at least one MUD that forwarded messages from in game message boards to mailing lists, and oh, PSYCH is a messaging platform written in LPC that supports XMPP and i believe IRC too) it is no surprise that LPC, the language LPMuds are written in served as a basis for the general purpose language Pike. there is a server written in Pike with an internal design similar to MUDs that supports not only http and ftp but also smtp, irc, xmpp and other protocols. i use that for my own websites.
- stuaxo 3y agoIs this the Sheet that appeared on the Psion5, appearing on Symbian?
- jgrahamc 3y agoI believe that's correct. The Nokia 9210 Communicator used Symbian OS.
- underlipton 3y agoI still say that her shift key was broken and she was just using the spreadsheet functions to correct the sentence's capitalization.
- pbhjpbhj 3y agoHmmm ... I'm not sure this is conclusive. The manual [0] at p.187 says: >You can use Word to write new and edit existing text documents. You can insert and view images and other files in the documents. You can also send and receive documents as fax, SMS, mail, PC mail, or via infrared. So, you can embed, well insert, "other files" in a Word document. You can send and receive a Word document as an SMS ... it seems like Kelly and Nelly might be sending a Sheet inserted in a Word "as" an SMS!?? Another page [1] says you can send "Microsoft Excel 2/3/4/5/7/97/98/2000 XLS, XLC" as an attachment. So, perhaps it's an Excel doc as an attachment to an email? Here's a guy sending a Word doc as an SMS [2], at 7m37 [3] you see the option to attach a "Sheet". FWIW I suspect this video shot was reached by something along the lines of a director saying "who can make some text show large enough on here for us to read on the video playback?" or an assistant saying "out the box the only way I can enter that text that doesn't show as a Word doc is like this!". E&OE, apologies ... we need to go deeper! [0] https://www.tech-insider.org/mobile/research/acrobat/010625.pdf https://www.tech-insider.org/mobile/research/acrobat/010625.... [1] http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/devices/nokia9210/9210specs.php http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/devices/nokia9210/9210specs.p... [2] https://youtu.be/tr9vqLs5XpI?t=315 https://youtu.be/tr9vqLs5XpI?t=315 [3] https://youtu.be/tr9vqLs5XpI?t=457 https://youtu.be/tr9vqLs5XpI?t=457 For completeness, the "Dilemma" (by Nelly, ft. Kelly Rowland) music video that someone else linked is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WYHDfJDPDc&t=190s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WYHDfJDPDc&t=190s.
- mike_d 3y ago> So, you can embed, well insert, "other files" in a Word document. The point of the article is that it wasn't running Office, but a less featured clone.
- pbhjpbhj 3y agoIndeed, but Nokia call their app "Word" and it is apparently interoperable with MS Word. Check out the video I linked of the guy sending a [Nokia 9210] Word document as an SMS.
- cbeach 3y agoTell me you’re autistic without telling me you’re autistic PS I’m autistic too, no offence intended! :-)
- tacker2000 3y agoThere used to be a website with tons of examples of this type of “nonsensical” use of computers on TV and in movies. Does anyone know if its still around?
- dylan604 3y agoFrom elsewhere in this thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36687656 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36687656
- type0 3y agoBut it would work with word editor right? https://nokia-9210-communicator.helpdoc.net/en/10-office-2/word-2/ https://nokia-9210-communicator.helpdoc.net/en/10-office-2/w... > You can also send and receive documents as fax, SMS, mail, PC mail, or via infrared. Honestly I would have been much more impressed with the video if she was sending him a fax
- lordnacho 3y agoNobody gonna ask who in their right mind finds it useful to open three rows of a spreadsheet on a phone? Why would they even have that on the device? If there's one thing iPhone figured out, it was getting actually useful apps on phones instead of imitation desktops.
- filmgirlcw 3y agoMy favorite was the time that someone asked Kelly [1] about why she was using Excel and not the messaging app on that product-placement phone and she was like "I have no idea what you are talking about or why this is a meme." And then the Microsoft Excel Twitter account, the only good Twitter account, responded with grace [2]. [1]: https://twitter.com/MichaelBaggs/status/1099957857901002752 https://twitter.com/MichaelBaggs/status/1099957857901002752 [2]: https://twitter.com/msexcel/status/1100162136888827904 https://twitter.com/msexcel/status/1100162136888827904
- arp242 3y agoThis kind of taking pride in ignorance just infuriates me to no end. Merely being ignorant of something is fine, as we're all ignorant of most things, but being proud of it just makes you stupid. Why do we put people like this on TV? </rant>
- adfm 3y agoPerhaps she is just media savvy and will take the hit from comment trolls rather than be direct about it. It also sends a message to potential sponsors of her willingness to entertain offers.
- xdavidliu 3y agoShe probably did not pay too much attention to the names of the spreadsheet functions on the phone that she briefly touched to film a commercial. It's obviously not "being proud of ignorance" or anything like that.
- gardenhedge 3y agoFirstly, how do you not know what Microsoft Excel is? Secondly, she's the one who is using it and is the focus of the memes she is talking about.. and she still doesn't just look it up.
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- ilayn 3y agoInsert joke about POST request with csv formdata because JSON wasn't a thing yet.
- mikrl 3y agoI find it interesting to listen to pop music from the early days of the web and listen to the references which were new then, but still make sense now Mousse T vs Hot n Juicy - Horny ‘98 (sent a message through the internet, but it rejected) Eminem - I’m Back, The Real Slim Shady (Ken Kaniff from the internet, download her audio on MP3) I’m sure there are more, and like the OP, some references show up in music videos too.
- hattmall 3y agoAfroman - Sell your dope (Sell crack through internet, but not yet) UGK - The game belongs to me (Pimpin ain't dead, it just moved to the web, Bitch ain't gotta hit the track, ain't gotta give no tricks no head, Ain't gotta give no tricks no pussy, just cameras and screens Easiest money you can get, it's the American Dream) Another really interesting one though is to see how many songs mention Donald Trump back in 90s/Early 2000s
- mikrl 3y ago>Donald Trump UGK - pocket full of stones (1992) >Ivana Trump Kreayshawn - Gucci Gucci (2011)
- offices 3y ago>Another really interesting one though is to see how many songs mention Donald Trump back in 90s/Early 2000s I wonder if the same would apply to Ronald Reagan before his presidency?
- lawgimenez 3y agoRage Against the Machine predicted Donald Trump to become president in the Sleep now in the fire video.
- dclowd9901 3y agoTom Morello exhibiting his PhD chops so it seems
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- legendofbrando 3y agoThis is the kind of investigative journalism that I come to this site to discover. Bravo!
- scrum-treats 3y agoIf there was HN gold...
- gyudin 3y agoTop article of the day? Really? :)
- ttldr 3y agoi think both OP and the motivating tiktok have misread, even inverted the narrative. after rewatching the music video for Dilemma[1], i’m reading the nokia phone scene as: she’s received a message from her “boo” inquiring her whereabouts as she pines after nelly, and is not in fact attempting to send a message to nelly. that the green shirt and white pantsed clad figure outside her window is indeed nelly, and not her alleged boo, is supported by the prior scene in which nelly, clad in same clothes, is seen grinding with kelly in the street. this changes the narrative of the linked blog post entirely. kelly was sold as a bimbo trying to send a text via a spreadsheet app without internet connectivity, when the facts better support a narrative of her being sent a needy message by this unsatisfactory “boo” in the form of a spreadsheet attachment (what a dork) while she further cements her infatuation with nelly and his unbelievable cheekbones (and inexplicable cheek sticker). if she’s the recipient of a message, and not the sender, how could the HYPERLINK= VBA function be relevant at all? [1]: https://youtu.be/8WYHDfJDPDc https://youtu.be/8WYHDfJDPDc phone scene time stamp 3:05
- noman-land 3y agoFun fact, Nelly nearly played major league baseball[0]. "St. Louis' very own rapper/actor/celebrity fitness guru was a breakout talent on the baseball diamond, finding solace and stability in the game after his parents divorced and he was forced to stay with a string of relatives. In high school, he was named the MVP of the St. Louis Amateur Baseball Association All-Star Game, and was scouted by the St. Louis Cardinals and Pittsburgh Pirates. But around the same time, he started his first rap group – the St. Lunatics – and scored a regional hit with the single "Gimme What U Got," which led him to pursue a career in music instead. Within a few years, he had the whole word wearing Band-Aids beneath their eyes and spelling things with double-r's, helping to put the Midwest on the hip-hop map." The sticker is a shoutout to his baseball days, imitating the eye-black[1] commonly worn by baseball players. [0] https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/9-musicians-who-couldve-played-major-league-baseball-76083/billy-ray-cyrus-2-146491/ https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/9-musicians-w... [1] https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/f/eye-black-athletes https://www.dickssportinggoods.com/f/eye-black-athletes
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- pflenker 3y agoEven if she could have, she is checking excel for his reply, which would not arrive there.
- globular-toast 3y agoShe says Microsoft the same way Richard Stallman says it. Reluctantly accepting that it even exists. It also seems to have ruffled some jimmies here, which I love.
- Charlie_26 3y agoDid many people at the time clock this? I think we forget that spreadsheet applications weren't always so commonplace outside of the people in your household that worked with a computer.
- dghughes 3y agoI recall seeing that at the time and thinking "ha trying to send a message with a spreadsheet, silly." and moved on with my life.
- Dave3of5 3y agoWell I'm glad that argument has been solved !