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Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping
- tjpnz 4y agoI think history's going to have quite a bit to say about the individuals who've chosen to take this stance. I don't buy the argument that it's just business either, last I checked Patrick Collison and Jack Dorsey were doing pretty well for themselves.
- rldjbpin 4y agoas an outsider who doesn't even use MJ, they are private entitty and are free to do whatever they please. it is not that they are the only GANs capable of generating images. if your only complaint about this topic is that you want winnie the pooh a certain way, go use the other ways possible to express your freedom of easel drawing.
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- scrubs 4y agoHi concept ideas from holtz? Nah. Greed. He wants chinese sized top line growth.and yes the free speech is still a problem too
- dragonelite 4y agoPretty much if China was like a poor nation he wouldn't care.
- devmunchies 4y agoOr maybe he’s playing the long game. Lose a pawn to get a king.
- epups 4y agoTurns out China can pressure content on apps outside China as well, making the TikTok brouhaha even more pointless.
- auggierose 4y agoIt demonstrates that Chinas influence is already too big, making TikTok regulation even more urgent.
- senttoschool 4y agoOut of curiosity, who do you want to have a big influence?
- auggierose 4y agoNot China, nor any other non-democratically governed country.
- senttoschool 4y agoHow about a flawed democracy?
- throwawaymaths 4y agoAt least you can criticize it with a far lower risk of disappearing.
- sakisv 4y agoIf I may point out here that if we take the word "democracy" at face value (i.e. That the ruling entity needs to have the support of the majority of demos) then most countries are really not democratically governed: The people in charge get voted in by a minority of the people who go to vote - which gets even worse if you account for people who are eligible to vote but abstain.
- jay_kyburz 4y agoI actually think having one person in the whole world you can't generate images of sends a much stronger political message than allowing people to make funny pictures of said person in puffer jackets.
- meghan_rain 4y agoSorry I will oppose Chinese censorship until I die and no amount of (good-willed) reverse psychology will make me give them a pass.
- TheSpiceIsLife 4y agoIf there's one thing I'm certain of, it's that younger me had no business telling older me what he should or shouldn't do.
- meghan_rain 4y agoSorry, I don't quite follow, can you elaborate?
- TheSpiceIsLife 4y agoAre you certain you'll hold any particular opinion for the rest or your life?
- meghan_rain 4y agoGood point, one cannot be.
- bitcurious 4y agoIt does. That message is “this person has power over you” and “this person is to be feared” while the alternative is “this person is to be mocked” because in mockery society reclaims power over dictators. It’s not an accident that most dictators try to control political satire.
- threatofrain 4y agoYou can make satire on Biden and Putin, but for Xi Jingping: > We just want to minimize drama,” the company’s founder and CEO, David Holz, said last year in a post on the chat service Discord. “Political satire in china is pretty not-okay,” he added, and “the ability for people in China to use this tech is more important than your ability to generate satire.
- rlt 4y agoPrinciples are pretty important to some people, too.
- selcuka 4y agoCompanies are not people. The CEO might have principles, but he cannot apply his own principles to the company. The only principle for a company is to maximise profit within the legal restrictions.
- chrisdbanks 4y agoDepends on the company. Conscious Capitalism and the Infinite Game are great books on why that's not the best approach.
- ChrisKnott 4y agoThis comment sounds clever but makes no sense. The CEO can and must apply his principles to the company if he wants to consider himself moral under his own code. Just think it through; is he morally bound to actively pump out lies and propaganda if that increases profits?
- theodric 4y agoEither you make money in China until the Chinese clone your tech and undercut you, or you don't make that money and they eventually clone and undercut anyway. Might as well enjoy the boost for a few months. I don't like that we're self-censoring in the West in a way that furthers the ends and whims of authoritarian regimes, but hey, it's only business...
- fsloth 4y ago<<Plays South Park episode "Banned in China".>> It turns out authoritarian power and capital markets can be scary effective. I don't think authoritarian systems are as dynamic and innovative as democratic ones, but a gigantic authoritarian regime can utilize external democracies for innovation and then leverage their market power to silence criticism both home and abroad. Creative tools that impede free speech are harbingers of Orwellian future. "Sorry, you are not allowed to express that thought". Chinese encroachment of free speech outside China should be fought against, not aided. I'm in the camp that thinks it's normal for countries to have legal systems and value systems incompatible with each other - but I'm not ok with companies and individuals aiding an authoritarian regime to spread their influence globally just to extract profit.
- chrisdbanks 4y agoThese new models could be the downfall of authoritarian regimes. These regimes rely on suppressing access to information but soon we'll have an LLM that can answer any questions about the world and fit on a USB stick that can be passed from person to person. No more great firewall of China.
- HWR_14 4y agoPropaganda has seemed pretty effective even with unfettered access to information, LLMs and free speech in the west.
- tsimionescu 4y agoEncyclopedias exist today as well, and already fit on USB sticks. Still, Britannica has yet to topple the Chinese political system, and ChatGPT will not succeed either. Modern authoritarian states are extremely adept at controlling the spread of information. LLMs are not even a drop in the bucket for what the state apparatus can do. If sharing USB sticks with LLMs that talk about the Tiananmen massacre ever became popular, you would get USB sticks that talk about how these are Western lies the very next day.
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- meghan_rain 4y ago> Companies like Midjourney may be the vanguard of new technology and the changing internet. But censorship is nothing new, and they won’t change the game by willingly conducting reputation management for authoritarian governments. > That, one might say, is “pretty not-okay.” Money quote right there
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- est 4y agoI thought Midjourney works only on Discord, which is blocked in China?
- throwaway675309 4y agoThat was my thought too, but my understanding is that the usage of VPNs is pretty ubiquitous in China, and that the government for the most part looks the other way.
- qikInNdOutReply 4y agoWell, yes, those AIs are used inside of china, instead of tiktok which only exists outside of china. But AI represents a conundrum for censors. Normally they would just steal it with some cooperate espionage, but they then have not the expertise to retrain it or censor it properly themselves. So i guess the censorship is only temporary, until a chinese version of midjourney can be retrained on the data from within the golden shield project. But that AI will be largely useless, as it will spout mostly little red book Xi thought and other propaganda.
- Animats 4y agoWhat happens if you ask Midjourney for a picture of Mohammad?
- snehk 4y agoI tried it on DallE and it says "It looks like this request may not follow our content policy."
- neom 4y agoFirefly returns "One or more words violate Firefly user guidelines. Please edit and try again." with a picture of a very cute monkey. However, Xi Jinping riding a bike works just fine, although, the results look nothing at all like Xi Jinping riding a bike.
- basisword 4y agoRemarkable especially given the hugely viral “Pope” AI images of the last few weeks.
- SilverBirch 4y agoWhat makes it remarkable?
- mansion7 4y agoPerhaps the double standard that some political and religious figures are subject to satire, while others are held to be sacrosanct and untouchable. And that these protections would be enforced by silicon valley progressives, whom followers of those figures would gladly torture and execute if given the opportunity.
- basisword 4y agoI can understand (although don’t agree with) a decision to block these things based on respecting everyone’s religious beliefs. Blocking satire of a specific religion though points towards caving to fear rather than a rational policy choice.
- paxys 4y agoNothing new or unexpected sadly. Even the most vocal critics of the US government and its policies (including all the "pro freedom of speech", "anti woke culture" types) will quickly get in line and shut up as soon as China is involved in the conversation. Absolute authoritarianism and economic power is a very dangerous combination.
- ano88888 4y agoAll of freedom of speech promoters like Elon Musk would only talk about positive things about China when it comes to sensitive topic. Xi is probably the most powerful person on earth when you think about it.
- blueblimp 4y agoAI has a privacy problem right now where the most capable models are available only on cloud services that censor and access your input and output data. The gap between the state-of-the-art and private alternatives is especially large in text generation.
- andrewstuart 4y ago>> “the ability for people in China to use this tech is more important than your ability to generate satire.” How about "the ability for people to be free and have free systems and society is more important than the money we hope to get from doing business in China". But here we are in Silicon Valley where business and money rise above all else including national sovereignty.
- prox 4y agoAs long as western companies can’t do unrestricted business in China, neither should Chinese companies be able here. The earlier we break the toxic relationship, the better. But yeah, money over everything.
- snehk 4y ago> As long as western companies can’t do unrestricted business in China, neither should Chinese companies be able here. Well, they can't and they don't. They have to follow the local laws. Facebook, for example, doesn't operate in China because Facebook made the deliberate decision that they don't want to follow the same laws Chinese companies have to follow. Their comment was this: “We need to figure out a solution that is in line with our principles and what we want to do, and in line with the laws there, or else it’s not going to happen. Right now, there isn’t an intersection.”
- prox 4y agoTrue, but it’s not like there is any parity between the laws. China now is not the China of twenty years ago.
- qikInNdOutReply 4y agoThere. Is. No. such. Thing. As. Local. Law. There is a fine mist of ilusion of rule of law. But the party is outside of it. And the truth is, the laws is more similar to the law of network connections within the family graph of a mafia clan. Its basically just used as a body wrapping foil, once the graph has decided to finnish of some node. Stop projecting western values upon a completely different scenario, just because its apt at mimicrcy.
- andrewstuart 4y agoSpeaking of which, presumably ChatGPT with its close association with China is also deferential to the chilling effects of Chinese demands, preferences, requests and requirements?
- varenc 4y agoWhat is the close association you’re referring to?
- andrewstuart 4y agoSorry that was a mistype, I meant "close association with Microsoft".
- mgraczyk 4y agoNot in the US, based on a few basic queries I just ran
- paxys 4y agoRequired reading for those who aren't already convinced that we very urgently need fully open source generative AI models.
- zirgs 4y agoThankfully we have Stable Diffusion.
- throwaway675309 4y agoMid journey is already fairly heavy handed in terms of its onerous restrictions and puritanical censorship (blood, gore, etc), so this comes as no surprise. I find myself having to turn more and more to stable diffusion models to finish a lot of my concept work.
- 650REDHAIR 4y agoI can’t get stable diffusion to do a 1/10th of what I can do in MJ. I’ve followed guides, tried different parameters, etc etc. Any tips you’ve picked up?
- F2hP18Foam 4y agoIn my opinion MJ v5 has better generations on average than a well-customised SD pipeline, but only by a little bit. SD definitely requires more work in terms of set-up and greater specificity in your prompt text. I would recommend downloading one of the more aesthetically pleasing models from Huggingface or Civit.ai, such as "Deliberate", "Protogen" or "Realistic Vision". Using 'clip interrogator' on existing images that you find appealing can be a great way to find interesting keywords to include in your prompts. If you're comfortable hooking things together in a node based UI, I would recommend ComfyUI as it can give you greater flexibility around how your images are generated. What kind of images are you trying to generate? I can maybe give some more specific advice on that.
- can16358p 4y agoGenuine question: What could be a more logical thing to do than what he did?
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago> What could be a more logical thing to do than what he did? Not get involved. (See: OpenAI.)
- oakpond 4y ago> It’s not just Midjourney’s China-based users that can’t satirize Xi Jinping — that rule applies to users everywhere, even in the United States. I'm speechless and a bit scared...
- prox 4y agoJust looked up his bio : After Leap Motion, Holz started wondering about what the future would look like, and what people would need in this uncertain future. He came up for 3 pillars for what he thought would be the most important: reflection, imagination, and coordination. Looks like he tramples on his own pillars.
- Traubenfuchs 4y ago> reflection, imagination, and coordination Those are buzzwords that mean absolutely anything you want them to mean. "While reflecting on the future he desired for the company he is CEO of, Holz imagined how much more money he could make by keeping Midjourney available in China and coordinated the necessary actions to make it impossible to produce content about Xi Jinping"
- atleastoptimal 4y agoI think this is a time for people to realize that political satire has absolutely no influence whatsoever on the political regimes it aims to satirize. The amount of satire levied against Donald Trump, measured in tweets, art, comedy routines, scathing op-eds and every thought or public expression of ill will surpasses that of every other leader in human history by a large margin. And all in all it had little to no effect. You can't topple a regime by laughing at it. There's a reason kings in the middle ages hired jesters to make fun of them.
- simonh 4y agoSure, I’ve been aware of that since the 80s when a generation of comics cut their teeth mercilessly satirising Margaret Thatcher here in the uk. I grew up on it. Had zero political effect whatsoever, but it’s still a valuable and important free speech right.
- smcl 4y agoHe failed in his bid for reelection though. I guess you could criticise comedians, satirists, cartoonists for failing to mobilise a revolutionary movement to oust him from office by force before any election, but I don't think that was ever their aim.
- ramblerman 4y ago> You can’t topple a regime by laughing at it. The purpose of the satire is not to affect politics. It is a healthy expression of a free society. a regime that doesn’t tolerate laughing at it is almost always authoritarian and kept in place undemocratically.
- suddenclarity 4y agoTrump is a bad example considering satire should punch upwards to be successful or you just end up mocking someone. With Trump you had had billion dollar companies, media, Silicon Valley and Hollywood backing the movement. In contrast, we have serious discussions on "how far-right groups use memes to radicalize people". Satire works by creating a discussion and pushing opinion on dangerous/sensitive topics but it only works when you're the underdog.
- squarefoot 4y agoI'm sure Midjourney CEO won't object should someone create satire memes about him using his own platform.
- throwaway290 4y agoIn the same country: overseas students from China make death threats to fellow students they consider Chinese if they hold inconvenient views, with no consequences (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29593320 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29593320)
- doodlebugging 4y agoNot a new thing here at all. This has been true since Tiananmen Square. They place their students in the position of having to report each other for speaking about it and use the threat of harm to their family back home to enforce it. Anyone like this greedy Midjourney guy who would bow down to that fat-ass Jinping needs the entire family to be forced to surrender their passports, be stripped of their citizenship, and be sent over there to live the rest of their lives permanently barred from re-entry and from any business relationships over here.
- thinkingemote 4y agoThere's an additional threat in that overseas students must report regularly to the party otherwise their funding will be cut and they will be sent home. (This applies to Chinese funded students not those funded by overseas grants etc)
- doodlebugging 4y agoYes I have heard of that too. Thanks for reminding me of this additional pressure point. I wonder whether US students studying abroad feel any pressure to serve as remote eyes and ears for US corporations or the government. My first guess is that they don't but that may be my own naive guess since the answer could depend on their chosen field of study and their source of capital for their education. 'I don't know the answer' is the correct reply that I have for that.
- mindcandy 4y agoEveryone is crying Corporate Greed in here. And, I can understand why. But, here’s another perspective based on listening to David Holz answer all kinds of questions from random users for four hours a week for over a year during Midjourney’s “Office Hours”. AFAICT, Midjourney has no shareholders and David Holz is the farthest thing from a slick CEO. He’s a big dreamer hippie dork. He made all the money he cares to have from the sale of his previous company and now just wants to work on fun research projects. The goal of Midjourney is to bring creative power to as many people as possible. Whenever politics or other controversial topics come up, the MJ teams tries to stay out of it. They just want a welcoming space for all sorts of people to collaborate and create. Lots of people complain that they don’t allow porn. But, as a result, a millions of people who are not just horny teenage boys enjoy hanging out on the server sharing and discussing art that is not just pics of sexy women all day every day. Looking at you, unending parade of unfathomly huge boobs on https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=%23StableDiffusion https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=%23StableDiffusion David seems to think that since ridiculing politicians in China is taboo, having people ridicule Xi on MJ would make it unwelcoming to people in China. He wants them to feel comfortable collaborating with people all over the world on MJ. So, prompting Xi is blocked. That’s all there is to it.
- FormerBandmate 4y ago> David seems to think that since ridiculing politicians in China is taboo, having people ridicule Xi on MJ would make it unwelcoming to people in China. It's taboo because a dictator forbids it. The people have nothing to do with it
- doodlebugging 4y agoIt seems we have reached the point in our existence as a society where it is time to take a stand. Who are we? What values do we share? What behavior are we willing to tolerate? How much will it cost us to allow a company or an individual to compromise our principles? A lot of people, far too many in fact, allow greed to define themselves. Profit above all else. Those people should be universally vilified and removed from positions of power or influence. Xi Jinping as Winnie the Pooh or as Porky Pig. Take your pick. If he is offended then that is simply a sign of his own personal weakness, a character defect of which we all know he has many. Pity the weak bastard that can't take criticism and never, ever put them in a position of power.
- manuelmoreale 4y ago> Who are we? What values do we share? What behavior are we willing to tolerate? How much will it cost us to allow a company or an individual to compromise our principles? Do you think these are questions where a single answer can be found? Don’t you think that different societies will inevitably have different opinions on those subjects?
- doodlebugging 4y agoI expect that there are many different ways to answer those questions and that the answers will likely vary for any number of reasons. I also expect that behind most of those answers is a thread that links all of us to some common ground which should serve as the foundation for our belief system and a point where we can all drink from the same cup and resolve to find ways to understand why our answers differ and to accept those valid answers and then work together for things that benefit us all.
- manuelmoreale 4y agoThat is a great answer and a wonderful way to look at things. Thank you for that, really.
- lm28469 4y agoYou're 70 years too late, these questions have been answered for you
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- throwaway4good 4y agoI am not going to defend Chinese censorship - I think it is way overdone and a huge waste of resources but all companies operating in China must uphold this regime and pay the cost associated with it. However all countries have laws and norms governing satire and free speech. For example the Mohammed cartoons (deliberately drawn to trigger a reaction / discussion of free speech and censorship): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_cartoons_controversy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jyllands-Posten_Muhammad_car... Or this Australian drawing of American tennis superstar Serena Williams: https://amp.abc.net.au/article/10844900 https://amp.abc.net.au/article/10844900 Widely seen as racist by the American audience.
- fsloth 4y agoBeing offended, and censoring are two different things. Free speech should allow speech that offends people.
- throwaway4good 4y agoThe first is an example of a drawing censored in a large part of the world. The second is an example of a cartoon that likely would have been deemed against “media standards” had the organ that did the assessment been in the US and not in Australia.
- himinlomax 4y agoMany countries have laws against homosexual displays of affection, so by that logic, Midjourney should remove any LGBT content.
- throwaway4good 4y agoI would guess they end up disabling functionality by geolocation.
- Barrin92 4y ago>Local laws are suddenly not so local anymore, and people like Holz have no qualms about aiding their illiberal international spread. Okay, after decades on an American internet where a nipple is often enough to provoke censorship I do have to laugh a little bit about the sudden insight that large nations, shockingly enough, have influence beyond their own borders.
- zirgs 4y agoWhat do you mean? American internet is full of porn.
- lewhoo 4y agoMaybe I'm naive but I think it's a strong argument on why China won't catch up with the tech of LLM's and diffusion anytime soon. Half of their effort goes to censorship.
- zirgs 4y agoChatGPT also is being censored pretty heavily.
- michaelt 4y agoIf you browse https://paperswithcode.com https://paperswithcode.com you'll find when you look at the highest performing models on a given dataset, you're as likely to see Nanjing, Shanghai or Tsinghua as you are to see Stanford, MIT or UCLA. IMHO there's a good chance China already has the lead here.
- reset-password 4y agoThe US is doing the same exact thing but it's called 'alignment' and instead of 'censorship' we call it 'safety'.
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- lm28469 4y ago> individual countries’ censorship laws, particularly those of powerful countries like China Or the US ? https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-facebook-french-teacher-settled-years-long-lawsuit-gustave-courbets-lorigine-du-monde https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-facebook-frenc...
- dcl 4y agoWould it be remotely possible to make a law to prevent this 'voluntary' deification of international despots?
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago> Would it be remotely possible to make a law to prevent this 'voluntary' deification of international despots? Probably not. What we may need are export restrictions and subsidies for researchers who develop models that adhere to our values.
- Steltek 4y agoIn what country? In the US, this would be an incredible Constitutional violation.
- lazyeye 4y agoThere is nothing remotely surprising about this. It's Silicon Valley. What is surprising is he doesnt appear to be hiding his hypocrisy/self-interest behind a "woke" camouflage.
- say_it_as_it_is 4y agoThis was a sensible response. China, unlike the U.S, will focus its resources on destroying Midjourney and the lives of people running it. Don't think for a moment that the U.S. government will protect your business, you or your family. Pick your battles wisely and decide whether freedom of speech involving Winnie the Xi Jinping are worth protecting.
- MangoCoffee 4y agoWestern corporation have been kowtow to China for its market for a long time like NBA, Disney...etc.
- dist-epoch 4y agoHe has Chinese employees. Some of them will be pro China and pro censorship. And all of them are under Chinese law despite living abroad. He has no choice.
- hakube 4y agoChina is stealing territories from our country. He knows why he's being ridiculed
- crypt1d 4y agoWe seem to have a arrived at a stage of collective thought in which every action which is not directly confrontational against those that have a different belief system, is seen an acknowledgement of its support. Discussions on any topic have become so polarising that even those that try to remain neutral are being met with hostility and cancel culture treatment. I have never been so pessimistic about the future of the world as I am today.
- teddysc 4y agoDiscord is blocked in china long ago
- caligarn 4y agoOpenAI also does this with DallE, fyi.
- caligarn 4y agoWhy don’t they just restrict it in China and not restrict it for people outside of China?
- walkhour 4y agoIndividuals like LeBron James do it — a self proclaimed human rights activist. Companies do it. I have yet to see a public entity who has a spine on this topic and is well respected. It's obvious this is a business decision, not some conclusion of "exploring the cultural differences of different countries, and China has a more respectful culture".
- EGreg 4y agoIt’s capitalism and centralized control. Once again, Linux and open source projects, scientists etc. do not have such an issue. Their software is available to everyone everywhere. These organizations have taken a “stance” alright — and that is basically that anyone can use it for any purpose. Including satire! I bet you Stable Diffusion won’t have such a controversy. The fact that GitHub had to beg the permission of the US government to let their centralized platform serve open source software to Iran says quite a lot. It shows how centralized governments and corporations create the problems to start with, whereas gift economies don’t have any of these problems https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/5/22215588/github-iran-sanction-exemption-license-granted-us-treasury-microsoft https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/5/22215588/github-iran-sanct...
- throwawayHolz 4y agoYou can't log in to Midjourney from China anyway, as Discord has been blocked a while back. So only VPN users will have access.
- 19h 4y agoThis is weirdly relevant -- I made some funny soviet-style propaganda posters the last few days and it happily let me generate them for Gaddafi, Putin, Kim Jong-un, etc. but when I wrote Xi Jinping it rejected it. I tried "general secretary of CCP" but the results weren't even remotely resembling Xi Jinping, so I assume they even removed him from the training data.
- robbywashere_ 4y agoThis leaves me wondering. Who and what is the biggest existential threat to humanity, sentient artificial intelligence or tyrannical governments?
- danparsonson 4y agoTyrannical governments with access to sentient artifical intelligence?
- marcinzm 4y agoFor context, it seems Midjourney blocks a ton of terms and none of this is particularly new. Not sure if there's an official list anywhere. https://decentralizedcreator.com/list-of-banned-words-in-midjourney-discord/ https://decentralizedcreator.com/list-of-banned-words-in-mid...
- rodneyzeng 4y agoQuick question: is avoid prompting Xi / disabling satire about Xi the sufficient condition that would make Midjourney accessible to the people in China? The answer is: NO. That's the point. Is satire on June 4th, 1989, the tiananmen square massacre allowed in China? No! Is satire on COVID and Wuhan allowed in China? No! ... This list is so long in China that, eventually, if any person wants satire on some forbidden topics using Midjourney, this tool will be blocked. And very likely it would happen. The demand is not smaller than the endless gallery of women with huge boobs. So this is a hard problem.
- freeAgent 4y agoMany topics are censored in China. Are they going to try and keep up with all of them? For example, what would happen if someone asked for tank man dressed as a superhero?
- raincole 4y agoThere are so few photos of the tank man, so I highly doubt if AI can understand this concept as well as it understands "Xi Jinping".
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- maxwell 4y agoMy Xi satire created with Craiyon a few months back: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_5lZo6UlVlY https://youtube.com/watch?v=_5lZo6UlVlY
- evancox100 4y agoThe real kicker here is that this functionality is blocked not only in China but globally. That is indefensible, at the very least provide some timeline or assurance that such restrictions will be limited to users of that particular country. It is natural to have different rules around content in different countries, whether you agree with those rules or not. But doing it this way you are setting rules for all users based on what the most restrictive, authoritarian countries will allow. It is the same with Hollywood, they have completely caved in, and it is a mockery of the idea of free and creative expression. Like in any good censorship regime, the creators are chaining themselves, no state intervention needed! Just incredible.
- nojvek 4y agoThere's a fine line when it comes to AI. On one hand it's not great that OpenAI/MS/MJ get to decide what is okay and what isn't okay. On the other hand without filters, the possibility for misinformation, spam and inciting violence/drama/frustration is high since the cost to create tons of garbage is so low. I'm more worried about AI supercharged bait-click content than GPT-5 singularity.
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- flerovium 4y agoMidjourney already bans Muhammad. Is this different? https://decentralizedcreator.com/list-of-banned-words-in-midjourney-discord/ https://decentralizedcreator.com/list-of-banned-words-in-mid...