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Nascar driver stuns to qualify for championship with GameCube move
- QuadmasterXLII 4y agoOf all the forms of immortality, my favorite is participating in a competition in such a brilliant, incorrect way that a rule is permanently added just for you.
- fimbulvetr 4y agoMy favorite is Eddie the Eagle. Watch the movie or read the book. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_the_Eagle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_the_Eagle
- couchand 4y agoUnbelievable! > He received confirmation of his qualification for the games while working as a plasterer and temporarily residing in a Finnish mental hospital, due to lack of funds for alternative accommodation rather than as a patient.
- bombcar 4y agoThere was a rule added to baseball about making a "mockery of the game" for sending a midget in to pinch-hit, and having nearly no strike zone, he walked on four balls. > American League president Will Harridge, saying Veeck was making a mockery of the game, voided Gaedel's contract the next day. In response, Veeck threatened to request an official ruling on whether Yankees shortstop and reigning American League MVP Phil Rizzuto, who stood 5 feet 6 inches (1.68 m), was a short ballplayer or a tall dwarf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Gaedel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Gaedel
- stubish 4y agoFamous, or sometimes infamous. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underarm_bowling_incident_of_1981 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underarm_bowling_incident_of_1...
- caf 4y agoIn the same sport there's also the Mankad.
- kumarharsh 4y agoBut that's not an illegal move - interestingly, ICC (the body which regulates Cricket) has always recognized the move as official - specifically confirming it as such after the recent incident involving the women's teams of India & England.
- QuadmasterXLII 4y agoOr of course this could become the new meta, which from a viewer perspective might be even better
- Someone 4y agoIt’s not likely that will make you immortal. Being forbidden, your technique will not be used, so your name won’t be mentioned, and it will be forgotten (You might get famous if your technique keeps getting used by accident) For example, there’s “Félix Erausquín”, who invented a javelin throwing technique you probably never heard of. http://rethinkingathletics.blogspot.com/2013/12/the-javelin-controversy.html http://rethinkingathletics.blogspot.com/2013/12/the-javelin-...: However the true revolution of javelin throw came in 1956 when a 49 year old spaniard, Félix Erausquín, invented what came to be called the “spanish style”. Erausquín was a specialist of shot put and discus throw (with several national titles and records) but also of the “barra vasca” which consists in throwing a heavy rod using a rotational technique. Erausquín adapted the style of the barra to javelin throw with a greased hand and managed a throw of 83.40 m at a few centimetres of the world record. […] Could the spaniards have won the 1956 Olympic javelin title? Yes and no. Had they kept the style secret till Melbourne they would certainly have taken the javelin world by surprise. However at the beginning of October, a month and a half before the Games, Salcedo used the new style during a competition in Paris. This opened the way for experimentation with the new technique to non-spanish athletes but also alerted the instances of the international federation who by the end of the month had modified the rules so as to ban the rotational technique. However, even if they had kept the secret, the athletes from Spain would not have had the occasion to throw at Melbourne since Franco’s government had, at the last moment, decided to boycott the Games.
- dsfyu404ed 4y ago>For example, there’s “Félix Erausquín”, who invented a javelin throwing technique you probably never heard of. But who's infinitely more known than his contemporaries who didn't do some interesting footnote-worthy thing like that and therefore get mentioned far less.
- tshaddox 4y agoExactly. I have, as of a moment ago, read exactly one article about javelin throwing in my life, and it was about that guy and the throwing technique he invented.
- zardo 4y agoI'm surprised they don't just DQ him under an intentionally vague rule on reckless maneuvers.
- Godel_unicode 4y agoSports don’t generally work that way, especially in the US. If it’s not specifically against the rules but clearly should be, you get the old “great job! Never do it again!”
- 6stringmerc 4y agoI recall “if you ain’t cheating’ you ain’t tryin’” has been a part of NASCAR since getting more money than running shine.
- kube-system 4y agoThe top competitors of any sport tend to inherently filter for those who are willing to go to extreme lengths to win.
- 6stringmerc 4y agoSomething something Lance Armstrong…good point I think you made.
- zardo 4y agoMotorsports generally have a rule like, "safety violation deemed at official's discretion". The wikipage on NASCAR rules looks like it has just such a rule.
- bitL 4y agoOne for the history books alongside Zanardi's "The Pass" (banned right after it happened).
- jansan 4y agoDavid Berkoff's underwater dolphin kick is such an example. Even better is the Fosbury flop, which was just accepted as a superior technique and no rules were adjusted.
- JackFr 4y agoHowever modern foam pads were a prerequisite. If you Fosbury flop into sawdust and sand your career won’t last long.
- sc0ttyd 4y agoA counterexample to the Fosbury Flop was Tuariki Delamere's Front Flip in the long jump, which was immediately banned https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe0zi_fkyts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe0zi_fkyts
- inasio 4y agoAgree! Reminds me of swimmers going underwater for most of the backstroke event in the Seoul Olympics [0] [0] https://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/news/when-the-backstroke-went-rogue-how-david-berkoff-and-underwater-power-changed-the-event/ https://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/news/when-the-backstro...
- eCa 4y agoMy favourite of these is probably Graeme Obree[1] who managed to get not one, but two very different bike positions banned in the ’90s after setting the hour record using one of them and winning the world championship using the other. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graeme_Obree https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graeme_Obree
- ArnoVW 4y agoA bit like Michael Guerra? I haven't checked, but if his trick didn't get banned... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3Iz7ZMALaCY https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3Iz7ZMALaCY
- jasonwatkinspdx 4y agoHeh, I'd never seen the full clip of that and the scooter driver's reaction just about had me spit on my keyboard over here.
- andrewflnr 4y agoSame here. Your comment convinced me to click, no regrets. :D
- bombcar 4y ago1. The scooter guy reaction 2. The scooter guy decides "can't beat 'em might as well join him" 3. The poor mobility scooter being passed by all this
- grvdrm 4y agoSaw this recently. Amazing and frightening!
- 4gotunameagain 4y agowhile this is of course very cool, I was always convinced that it also included a motor. The acceleration seems too abrupt for just a Cd advantage, and that was right around the time of the big motor in chassis scandals
- 6stringmerc 4y agoIf he wins the NASCAR cup maybe it can be asterisked as the “Deviousness Trophy”
- ekianjo 4y ago> Of all the forms of immortality, my favorite is participating in a competition in such a brilliant, incorrect way that a rule is permanently added just for you. That's precisely why car races are boring these days. Everything is forbidden and over-regulated so there's no space for innovation anymore. Look at F1 and its bloat of regulations.
- joshu 4y agoProbably don’t paint the entire sport with one brush. Lots of racing is very exciting, especially to the people who are doing it (the vast majority of racing is amateur/club/etc.) Bergmeister vs Magnussen wasn’t that long ago…
- ajmurmann 4y agoBut in F1 it's exciting because you never know what rules they are gonna enforce this time and for whom. /s Edit: on a more serious note: The regulations are so tight to keep it exciting. Frustratingly, if the regulations are more open, one of the better funded teams will just run away with the best car. That already happened in some seasons, but would be even worse without tight regulations.
- joshu 4y agoI have a historic car that ended up banned at Le Mans over rules and caused Lotus to stop competing while at the same Ferrari did not get banned from the same race despite also falling afoul of some different rules. at least according to legend, anyway.
- ajmurmann 4y agoAccording to Adrian Newey's book it came out in 2015 that Ferrari had a secret deal with the FIA that allowed Ferrari to veto any regulation changes. It also is interesting how cars in the early 90s started to have more advanced electronics like active suspension which Ferrari never got to work and then those things got banned.
- lisper 4y agoWhen I was in high school a local science museum had an annual paper airplane contest. One of the events was duration of flight. The launch platform was a second-story landing. One year I won with a simple piece of paper the size of a dollar bill that was bent into a S-shape profile so that it would twirl as it fell. It turns out this is actually a legitimate way to produce lift, and actual human-carrying aircraft have been built with wings that use this principle, but I didn't know that at the time, and neither did the competition organizers. They thought I was cheating, and so did I. So the next year they tried to change the rules in a way that would disqualify my design but they couldn't come up with a legitimate way to phrase such a rule, so in the end they decided on a very clever solution: all entries in the duration-of-flight event had to carry a penny as a payload. So I built a very large version of the same design out of computer punch cards taped together, and won again. I'm still proud of that.
- thrtythreeforty 4y agoThis is sort of similar to helicopter autorotation, isn't it?
- pclmulqdq 4y agoYes, this is basically how you are supposed to crash-land a helicopter if the engine fails.
- K0balt 4y agoActually in this case he’s using an airfoil spinning on a horizontal axis perpendicular to the direction of flight. But yes, helicopters can be safely landed this way without power (not crash landed, but actually landed, though crashing is always an option lol) Also, gyrocopters use the same principle for all phases of controlled flight, by simply using a traction engine to move the aircraft foreword, with a free spinning, unpowered, typically fixed pitch or no cyclic control rotor providing the lift.
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- metaphor 4y agoSurprised Smokey Yunick's name isn't mentioned anywhere. Reminds me of this entertaining seminar[1] of a bunch of old school IMSA racers describing how they got "creative" racing around the rules to gain an unfair advantage. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfq7-1ePW-M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfq7-1ePW-M
- mindcrime 4y agoIt always makes me happy to see Smokey Yunick's name come up on HN. It doesn't happen very often[1], but he was clearly a "hacker" as much as any programmer or computer science guy was! [1]: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&query=%22smokey%20yunick%22&sort=byPopularity&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
- ratg13 4y agoOften referred to as the "air bud" defense.
- des1nderlase 4y agoI'd like to see an XKCD with this statement.
- rektide 4y agoWe used to call it "wall speed". "Wall speed ahead!"
- bitL 4y agoForza Horizon 4/5 still requires them to win over unbeatable-level drivatar opponents.
- bombcar 4y agoHe’s lucky he didn’t get his arse blueshelled. Probably why he didn’t go all the way to first.
- gareth_untether 4y agoTook me a minute to realise this is a Mario Kart reference.
- drewbeck 4y agoIs there some specific advantage gained irl by hugging the wall like this? I can’t tell from the video what he achieved by it.
- tofuahdude 4y agoHe went faster through the curve and passed several drivers, to the point that he qualified for the next race when he otherwise wouldn't have.
- denimnerd42 4y agohe was significantly faster than the track lap record too
- bitL 4y ago...which was set long time ago with significantly more powerful cars.
- Lammy 4y agoNew lap record is 18.845 seconds. Old lap record was Joey Logano's 18.898 in 2014: https://joeylogano.com/logano-sets-track-record-starts-third-martinsville/ https://joeylogano.com/logano-sets-track-record-starts-third...
- jameskilton 4y agoHe drove at full speed through a curve, letting him pass like 8 cars who were taking the turn normally.
- dan_pixelflow 4y agoIt was the last corner of the last lap - hugging the wall damages your car but because he didn't actually need to tap the brakes he just kept on going, round the wall faster than the others.
- w-ll 4y agoThis is also the shortest short track NASCAR races, its in Martinsville, VA. Known as "The paperclip". This was a lot fun to watch. #1 Ross Chastain had to get more points than #11 Denny Hamlin to qualify. He was in 10th I think when he went full send with the wall, putting an arms length in front of Denny at the very last second to finish #5th. Short track races are fun because the do have a lot of rubbing, but they dont nearly go as fast as the super-speedways. And just generally you dont see something like this. I understand NASCAR is gonna make a rule to prevent it, but you know they are gonna promote the heck outta this clip. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martinsville_Speedway https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martinsville_Speedway
- carabiner 4y ago> went full send with the wall How did the term "full send" come about? Why is everyone saying it these days?
- olyjohn 4y agoYou lick the stamp and send it. Once it's sent, there's no going back. So you better just fully commit to it.
- toomuchtodo 4y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelk > Nelk is known for popularizing and later trademarking the slang term "Full Send" (stylized as FULL SEND) which Forgeard defined as meaning "any activity you do, give it your absolute best".
- jayofdoom 4y agoThis term was used well before 2010... that person might have the trademark but it was used in extreme sports (e.g. skateboarding type events) since the 1990s.
- Godel_unicode 4y agoFull Send predates them by at least a decade. It’s a very short walk from “send it”, as in I’m going to send it, which has been part of that culture since at least 2000.
- z9znz 4y agoThat's cute, but I suspect that kind of boldly foolish move would not be the kind of thing a team would appreciate, since it implies they can never count on what their driver will do. It was basically a Happy Gilmore hockey golf swing (which outperforms a regular golf swing when it works, but unfortunately is enough less reliable that it's not worth doing).
- Godel_unicode 4y agoThe driver’s job is to win the race. This was the last lap of the season if it didn’t work. In the words of the SAS, who dares wins. Edit: I would be shocked if he doesn’t get a hearty thank you from the crew and a bonus from the bosses.
- moron4hire 4y agoIn his interview after the race, he mentioned talking about it with the crew and they decided together to do it.
- jasonwatkinspdx 4y agoHere's the onboard where you hear the team is very happy about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27S42Y5km4I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27S42Y5km4I This is a one off thing. NASCAR is 100% gonna rule it out. And getting the car chewed up is pretty routine in NASCAR. I mean, it's not good to do it unnecessarily but this won't really raise eyebrows. The car was still driving and tracking fine afterwards, so it's probably just mangled body work.
- rzzzt 4y agoPut roller skate wheels on the passenger side door for the next race!
- sokoloff 4y agoThe team was clearly celebrating in the pits. Their driver just put them back in the hunt to win the championship when they were otherwise a half-lap from being eliminated. I think they’ll be plenty happy to put a new right side on it.
- Lammy 4y agoI like the other drivers' reactions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHFhTB2h9tk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHFhTB2h9tk
- x0x0 4y agoat 3:15 "I can't believe what I just saw... that's literally the coolest thing I've ever seen in my life... that was straight video game but hey man, way to never quit."
- aidenn0 4y ago"that was incredible" "rule against it next week"
- mattm 4y ago"If I had known that would work I would've done that the last 8 laps"
- agumonkey 4y agoCue new car body design with vertical bearings on the right door.
- bluedino 4y agoKind of expect Cleetus McFarland to try this now
- mauvehaus 4y ago"If it's stupid, but it works, it's not stupid." To be clear that wasn't just stupid. It took a lot of work to get into a place where it's worth having a go, and a heaping measure of luck to pull it off.
- andrewflnr 4y ago"works at most once per car" is a caveat that should give you pause before concluding "it's not stupid." :)
- AnimalMuppet 4y ago"Works at most once per car" still isn't necessarily stupid if it's the last lap.
- andrewflnr 4y agoNot necessarily, but very likely. I used "give pause" very carefully.
- hnthrowaway8251 4y ago"Every Angle of Ross Chastain's Video Game Move" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3yNc5EasW8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3yNc5EasW8
- jefftk 4y agoReminds me of another example of video-game inspired tactics: Just before he reached the end zone, with 17 seconds remaining, Stokley cut right at 90 degrees and ran across the field. Six seconds drained off the clock before, at last, he meandered across the goal line to score the winning touchdown. For certain football fans, the excitement of a last-minute comeback now commingled with the shock of the familiar: It's hard to think of a better example of a professional athlete doing something so obviously inspired by the tactics of videogame football. When I caught up with Stokley by telephone a few weeks later, I asked him point-blank: "Is that something out of a videogame?" "It definitely is," Stokley said. "I think everybody who's played those games has done that" — run around the field for a while at the end of the game to shave a few precious seconds off the clock. Stokley said he had performed that maneuver in a videogame "probably hundreds of times" before doing it in a real NFL game. https://www.wired.com/2010/01/ff-gamechanger/ https://www.wired.com/2010/01/ff-gamechanger/
- harrydehal 4y agoAssuming this is the video you're referencing: https://youtu.be/9fPamV6LsV8?t=107 https://youtu.be/9fPamV6LsV8?t=107
- TulliusCicero 4y agoThis is really interesting. The incentive to pull off this kind of move, running the clock down a bit, that was already present. But there's a certain social expectation that you won't game the rules so blatantly, so that's a disincentive. What the existence of video games does, is allow people to do things like this in an environment where social expectations and pressure don't really exist. It's like a psychological primer. You do it so many times in the video game, more and more you think, gee, why not do this in real life?
- zinckiwi 4y agoAt least this is open play with ball in hand, and there is danger there. I fully admit I am not very familiar with American football, but the completely accepted "taking a knee" to run down as much as two minutes of the clock at the end of the game strikes me as far more cynical.
- skrtskrt 4y agoFunny enough I feel like only older “less realistic” driving games would let this be an advantage, Forza for instance realllly slows you down from the friction of hugging a wall
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- kevin_thibedeau 4y agoA realistic game would model the aero advantages from hugging the wall.
- bytehowl 4y agoIn Gran Turismo Sport it'll most likely just earn you a penalty, but it can be advantageous under certain circumstances. https://youtu.be/xK3NabIdk60?t=1022 https://youtu.be/xK3NabIdk60?t=1022
- aasasd 4y agoWall riders are a perpetual bane in multiplayer races. Perhaps Forza and GT finally added measures against that, but among e.g. videos on the ‘Super GT’ simmer channel, you can see plenty of riders, especially in Forza Horizon.
- yalogin 4y agoThis takes a lot of skill to execute. The level of commitment to it amazing. Any small mistake would have ricocheted the car into traffic.
- daguava 4y agoThis is one of those events that I'm of several minds about: 1) This is what keeps people outside the scene interested and taking note - NASCAR absolutely should publicize and play up this moment, it brings a lot of folks to the sport. It was incredibly awesome. 2) A lot of times something like this is how you form some new regulations - it's truly one of those "You know, this was excellent but we can't do it again" situations. 3) The best course forward is to leave it alone and legal in this moment, publicize it, but also treat it as the formation of some new rules. Side note, Nascar 2005, which he referenced as one of his inspirations for this, is one of my favorite gamecube games. I remember picking it up and playing it for hours on end, the soundtrack was awesome, and it didn't feel like an EA cash-grab at the time. Man how times have changed... Edit: Extra info - the 11 of Hamlin has previously made it into the chase for the champion ship by _intentionally wrecking drivers_ , so by and large a huge part of the fan base believes he got what was coming to him.
- BooneJS 4y agoYou could penalize it but if he had to do it on the next turn his sidewalls would have blown out. It’s definitely something to add to the end of race all-chips-in bag of tricks.
- joshmlewis 4y agoIt's definitely being played up so I think they did something right. My friends (who aren't Nascar fans) sent it to me, it was all over Twitter and Facebook, and now here in the #1 spot on the site I least expected it to show up.
- werid 4y agosaw it on tiktok from official nascar account
- backtoyoujim 4y agoThe sidewall of the track should have some way to impart boost.
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- codeulike 4y agoNot knowing much about nascar or that GameCube game, I watched the video hoping to see someone fire a blue shell or get a star boost or something. Slightly disappointed.
- hot_gril 4y agoI don't think you can ride the wall in the old Nascar video games cause it slows you down too much, plus there's no nitro, but it's definitely a thing in other car games.
- sokoloff 4y agoI worked at Papyrus (maker of Indycar and NASCAR games in the mid-late 90s and several alumni founded iRacing). I’d introduced arcade mode and double-tap-hold to do a burnout (intended to make tight pit-out and 180° turns after wreck easier) to the Playstation version. Inadvertently, I neglected to reduce forward traction during the burnout, so a burnout was the fastest way to do a standing start (by virtue of getting into the higher power RPM band). Made for interesting standing start races. Burnout made it into our “Hawaii” multiplayer code and NASCAR2 code; I don’t remember if Arcade mode (looser but more catchable cars and much better brakes) did or not.
- BooneJS 4y agoI played a lot of NASCAR 4 and Gran Prix Legends with a leather steering wheel. Great fun.
- sokoloff 4y agoI left just as we were developing GPL. Even with a good force-feedback setup, pedals, and a high frame rate, that game drove home* just how hard those GP cars were to drive. * pun unintended
- joshu 4y agoProbably up there with The Pass: https://youtu.be/cBthxGThBkc https://youtu.be/cBthxGThBkc (wait for it)
- Andrew_nenakhov 4y agoThis one looks really unfair, leaving the track and gaining an advantage by short cutting through the turn.
- joshu 4y agoIt’s banned now, but that patch is very rough and that is a steep incline. It is amazing he made it. I will dig out some video from one of my own race is from the cockpit and you can see how tough that pass really is
- michaelcampbell 4y agoSkip to about 4:30 if you don't want to wait for it.
- bnert 4y agolegend
- wnoise 4y agoWow, that's some atrocious grammar. Stunts? Stuns in order to? Does something stunning in order to?
- wingerlang 4y agoPerson eats (food) in order to be full. Driver stuns (everyone) in order to quality. It makes sense to me.
- wnoise 4y agoBut they don't stun in order to qualify. They stun while qualifying, or drive well, which both stuns and qualifies.
- wingerlang 4y agoThey did stun in order to qualify. Regardless of wether that was a side effect from what they REALLY did (driving well).
- CrimsonCape 4y agoI can't believe how conservative the responses are here. This guy is the epitome of a hacker, an embodiment of the title of this site.
- otherme123 4y agoMy TKD teacher once told us that he always looks for "cheaters" within the rules or out-of-the-box thinkers, because that's the right mindset to be succesful at competitions. When you play by the rules, you are limited to your abilities. But if you can squeeze advantages here and there, you can climb some extra spots, maybe to the top.
- skytreader 4y agoHey! Fellow TKD practitioner here. I'm just curious if you found ways to "cheat the rules" so to speak. Mind sharing them? I know that with the direction the sport has taken in the last decade or so, there are probably a hell lot of hacks right now. I even heard that players would change tactics (ie., rely on certain kicks/strikes more) depending on the hogu brand in use. But I competed before the advent of e-hogus and the one trick I found is punching just at the upper edge of the chest part of the hogu. That's where the rubber padding ends which transitions to the mere "cotton" padding that fluffs the straps. This meant that my opponent might actually hurt from my punch, while plainly making contact with the protective gear. In an era where punches rarely scored points if at all, this was useful. I felt like I could punish people for clinching too much. (Needless to say, this was in high school competitions. I dunno if it would've been as useful in higher tiers.) So did you find anything else? I'm curious! :)
- otherme123 4y agoNothing serious. We were training combat and we were given a small set of rules to get points which included (in hindsight) obvious holes. The smart guys quickly detected and exploited the holes, to the dismay of their opponents, some of whom got very angry. This was maybe 10 years ago, so one I remember: the rule was "a point if you slap your opponent shoulder with your hand", demonstrated as trying to hit the further shoulder of the opponent. It was a game of reflexes, keep the distance, quick entry and blocking, but also it was too easy to hit the closest shoulder, something someone noticed after a good two minutes into the exercise. Before the e-hogus a fellow competitor used to punch in a way that was not damage effective, but made a lot of noise and looked like a real punch (almost like a backhand slap), scoring a lot of points. Their opponents claimed that they weren't even hit. Another guy used to launch kicks in the last possible moment of a clinch (almost always a jump-turning-and-back-kick, tuio mondollyo tuit chagi, don't know the name in english), just when he noticed in the corner of the eye the referee intended to break the clinch.
- 29athrowaway 4y agoA friend told me once he lost control of his car while driving. In that moment, he spontaneously reacted doing the same thing he did when that happened in Gran Turismo. That saved his life.
- thyrsus 4y agoI wish I could tell what parts of such games were realistic, and then be able to practice emergency maneuvers - e.g. at 70 mph, cargo falls off the back of a pickup I'm following - just how sharply can I swerve my Toyota Corolla without going into a roll?
- bagels 4y agoGran Turismo has cartoon physics (or at least the first 4 or 5 did) not the best one to translate from. That said, you probably won't roll a Corolla (low center of mass and relatively low grip tires) without hitting something like a curb or a surface change. You are more likely to just uncontrollably drive in to an obstacle.
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- monkpit 4y agohttps://archive.ph/2022.10.31-234933/https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2022/10/random-nascar-driver-stuns-to-qualify-for-championship-with-gamecube-move https://archive.ph/2022.10.31-234933/https://www.nintendolif...
- choonway 4y agodoes this count as a zero day? hardly going to see it being allowed in further races.
- skellington 4y agoHope he got max benefit from that because this definitely will be against the rules very soon. :) But it was awesome.
- swader999 4y agoApparently he took his hands off the steering wheel too while riding the wall.
- andirk 4y ago"Person stuns other person for weapon with GTA IV move"
- wodenokoto 4y agoHow does that move even work? He takes the longest path around the turn, while dragging along the side of the wall.
- Jarwain 4y agoHe's going significantly faster than the other cars, since he doesn't have to slow down to try and maintain traction on the turn
- function_seven 4y agoBecause he could go pedal to the metal while everyone else was limited in speed to negotiate the turn using only the measly traction from their tires. The path length is a bit longer, but his speed was so much more that the trade off was worth it.
- Nition 4y agoThe other guys aren't limited by power, they're limited by grip. The wall adds lots of friction, sure, but he also now has unlimited grip and therefore full power.
- Hanschri 4y agoHe went about 110 km/h faster than the other cars around that turn, pretty sure he also set a lap record by doing that move. The fact that the finish line comes up right at the end of the turn also likely helped him, as it didn't allow his competitors to gain too much speed between exiting the turn and finishing.
- dirtyid 4y agoI'm assuming it's just some cosmetic damage to the bodywork? What is the actual cost benefit analysis for a move like this? $10,000 gamble? $100,000?
- marcyb5st 4y agoOh, I wonder if in his head he thought something along these lines: https://theawesomedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/im-gonna-do-whats-called-a-pro-gamer-move-meme-feat-good-1.jpg https://theawesomedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/im-go...
- jjallen 4y agoHave they banned this yet? I would have been concerned about the integrity of the wall. But then he woudld have exposed that the wall was pretty weak.
- seydor 4y agokind of surprised nobody tried this before?
- aasasd 4y agoThis site has a weird cookie consent dialog: > Match and combine offline data sources: always active > Link different devices: always active
- egorfine 4y agoI'm getting to a point in life where I can't figure out what are they talking about: a game or a real-life racing. Or both.
- dandare 4y agoAny irregularity or structural weakness in that wall could have killed him and drivers around him.
- chrisco255 4y agoMartinsville has a SAFER Barrier, which "consists of a high-strength, tubular steel skin that distributes the impact load to energy-absorbing foam cartridges", installed along the outside of the track: https://galvanizeit.org/project-gallery/nascar-safer-barrier https://galvanizeit.org/project-gallery/nascar-safer-barrier Still a risky move for a number of reasons, but wrecks are expected and happen all the time in NASCAR races.
- prego_xo 4y agoI think walls that are made with racecars hitting them at top speed in mind would be able to handle a distributed stress.
- dncornholio 4y agoIn every form of racing this guy would be called a cheater, but NASCAR is different. NASCAR isn't about the racing, it's about entertainment.
- BoorishBears 4y agoThat is so not true. The spirit of motorsport across so so many forms is poking and prodding at the limits of the rules. From "$500" 24 Hours of Lemons racers that intentionally start with negative laps to go over $500 to most banned F1 tech (99% of it was stuff that wasn't explicitly against the rules when created: https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/10-craziest-technologies-banned-f1/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/10-craziest-technologies-...) Once the tech is banned sometimes clever cheats show up to keep using it, but that's not what happened here.
- dncornholio 4y agoExplain why NASCAR drivers are retaliating by completely crashing into each other, is that poking at the limits when it's so blatant? F1 and NASCAR are not comparable. In F1 teams get applauded for cheating with tech, which is completely different, and arguably more boring, from NASCAR where excitement mostly comes from danger.
- BoorishBears 4y agoNo one retaliated by crashing over this. Maybe you're confused about drama with Hamlin from before this. Most of the radio chatter was positive, and the one complainer from the field is a guy who tried and failed with same move last year. From reverse skew to the Charger Daytona NASCAR is not new to messing with gaps in rules.
- pulse7 4y agoNow everyone will follow and then they will ban it...
- jaimex2 4y agoThe clip needs a Daytona USA "Time Extension!" over it.
- volleygman180 4y agoJust wait until military soldiers start camping inside the corner of a room, or jumping and prancing as they come around a corner while in battle.
- prego_xo 4y agoImagine the anger as some 18 year-old from the U.S dropshots your best friend.
- orbital-decay 4y agoCrazy. It used to work in many old games; it was a routine trick in Need for Speed: Porsche Unleashed. But it was a game physics quirk that propelled you forward with much more power than your engine was capable of.
- dcist 4y agoThis is awesome. Reminds me of when Medvedev did a FIFA celebration after winning the 2021 US Open: https://www.cbssports.com/tennis/news/us-open-2021-daniil-medvedev-did-a-fifa-celebration-after-winning-his-first-career-grand-slam-title/ https://www.cbssports.com/tennis/news/us-open-2021-daniil-me...
- thaumasiotes 4y agoThe article quotes Ross Chastain like so: > Once I got against the wall I basically go to the wheel and just hope I didn't catch the turn floor access gate or something crazy This doesn't make sense, and, if you listen to the video, it's also obviously not what he says. The quote should be > Once I got against the wall I basically let go of the wheel [...]
- jbigelow76 4y agoCan someone please explain what happened. I've seen the video a few times now, so I saw what happened but I am completely ignorant of either regs or etiquettes that allowed it to happen. It's a race right? I would assume grinding your car up against a wall would slow it down somewhat. Why were all the cars in the lower part of the screen going so much slower in a still live race that something like what happened could work?
- 2000UltraDeluxe 4y agoSpeeding up would mean loss of control of the car in a turn, so the driver used the wall to maintain stability while pushing the pedal to the metal. Drivers aren't supposed to hug walls like that.
- Karawebnetwork 4y agoDoing this, he could let go of the steering wheel and put the pedal to the metal. Usually when doing turns like this one you need to slow down and assert perfect control on the car. Essentially, he "became a train on tracks" while everyone was still cars. The walls also have special protections over them that made it possible, you probably couldn't do that on a regular concrete wall.
- pmontra 4y agoThe cars inside are going as fast as they can, with only the grip of their tires keeping them in the race line. The car along the wall can go much faster, as fast as it engine can push it because the wall keeps the car in the track. The grip of the tires is not the limit anymore. Unfortunately the wall also destroys the car so this is a trick that can't be done more than once per race. If they don't agree not to do it again everybody will have to race like that on the last lap of those short tracks, to defend from the drivers behind. The costs for the car and maybe for the track (restoring the walls?) will be substantial. Check the pictures of the right side of the #1 car.