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Dmitry Rogozin has been dismissed as director general of Roscosmos
- baybal2 4y ago
- ushakov 4y agohe's switching jobs, apparently > according to Meduza’s sources, Dmitry Rogozin will become one of the Kremlin’s supervisors for the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk “people’s republics” and the other Russian-occupied territories in Ukraine https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/07/13/the-president-likes-him-and-has-for-a-long-time https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/07/13/the-president-likes-...
- yostrovs 4y agoHe's ready to run a fascist state. Here he is being a Nazi. The end should speak enough for those that don't understand Russian: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xkXVVcPWSU8 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xkXVVcPWSU8
- monetus 4y agoWhere did you find this? Can anyone give me insight as to what was said? This is wild. it is this event(1)? (1) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_march https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_march
- wiseleo 4y agoHmmm... I speak Russian as a native speaker. The speech honestly does not make sense. This is a fragment of a longer speech that is missing context unless you are tuned into local politics as of 2007. He's talking about criminals joining the ranks of Russia's army and how he's unhappy about it. Go figure... He's also upset that the world is not considering him and his people as people. Deciphering the symbolic was more interesting. He kept his fist closed in the end, but others did not. The Black/Yellow/White flag is a Russian flag from Tzar Alexander II. The Blue/Yellow/Red flag appears to be related to Germany. What's amusing is that Russian March an anti-Putin organization. https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%88 https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA... - use Google Translate to read this instead of the English version.
- NicoJuicy 4y agoSeems like a death sentence atm.
- stoobs 4y agoYeah, that seems to be becoming the new "sent to Siberia", although I very much doubt he'll be placing himself directly in danger, unless he had no choice. Either way, he picked his poison long ago.
- H8crilA 4y agoThere really will be nothing left of Donbwabwe and Luganda once the Russian army is done with them: no buildings/infrastructure (blown up by enemy artillery, or possibly own artillery if there is ever a counteroffensive), but certainly no capable men (all forcefully drafted into the army and then killed or maimed in combat). The worst part is that both sides have the resources and will to continue fighting for quite a long time (years), unless some hard to predict event turns the tide.
- NicoJuicy 4y agoPrediction: HIMARS 300 km. Destroys the Russian dependency on railroads and with that, Russian military logistics capacity. Eg. Crimea: https://warsawinstitute.org/train-crimea-russia-condemned-opening-crimean-bridge-railway-traffic/ https://warsawinstitute.org/train-crimea-russia-condemned-op... https://newsbeezer.com/vietnameng/russia-deploys-smoke-screen-to-protect-crimean-bridge/ https://newsbeezer.com/vietnameng/russia-deploys-smoke-scree... Their priority is also their weakness. Just look at the slow Russian advance without railroads in eg. Kyiv in the beginning of the war. They were stalled for weeks, because the composition of their BTG's are based on nearby access to railroads infrastructure.
- tablespoon 4y ago> HIMARS 300 km. Destroys the Russian dependency on railroads and with that, Russian military logistics capacity. That's a bit too wonder-weapony for me to think that it will actually happen that way. That Crimean bridge seems like it could be destroyed effectively, but it's out of range. With the Donbas, I wonder if any damage could be repaired relatively quickly, since it would obviously be a priority.
- computronus 4y agoMaybe he will bounce back with that new position. (Ref: https://www.space.com/elon-musk-spacex-launch-trampoline-comment-explained.html https://www.space.com/elon-musk-spacex-launch-trampoline-com...)
- MichaelMoser123 4y agosuits him well, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7FUpOyEdHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7FUpOyEdHw (fast forward to 1:25); the Meduza article also says that Putin loves this shithead...
- khuey 4y agoAnd the long-awaited Soyuz/Crew Dragon seat swap agreement between Roscosmos and NASA was signed an hour or two later. That seems unlikely to be a coincidence.
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- gdy 4y agoGood riddance.
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- mmastrac 4y agoFrom what little I unfortunately saw from him on twitter, this guy is the Russian equivalent of a hardcore Nazi.
- gdy 4y agoWhat do you mean specifically?
- bvrmn 4y agoRogozin is a member of ultra-right movement. Like real "Russia for russians" and similar BS.
- gdy 4y agoI haven't heard anything like that from him for 15 years.
- bvrmn 4y agoWith new assignment we definitely hear something about non-existing Ukrainian nation. There is no such thing like former nazi.
- CoastalCoder 4y ago> There is no such thing like former nazi. Here's one counterexample: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hansi,_the_Girl_who_Loved_the_Swastika https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hansi,_the_Girl_who_Loved_the_...
- tut-urut-utut 4y agoOf course there is, one of them was the founder of our space program. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun
- hgazx 4y agoWhy is “Russia for Russians” bs? Sounds like a reasonable thing to say even if you disagree.
- bpodgursky 4y agoProbably concern that he was becoming unhinged enough to put commercial contracts at risk. There are more... fitting... positions right now for a raving nationalist lunatic, I'm sure he'll land on his feet in the DPR or LPR.
- WesolyKubeczek 4y agoOne foot in DPR, and another in LPR.
- dotnet00 4y agoThey did that already by placing additional conditions on OneWeb to continue launching their sats and then when OneWeb refused they just kept the satellites and money while cancelling the contract.
- bpodgursky 4y agoYeah, I guess that works once.
- aj7 4y agoRussia is more realistic about SpaceX dominance than the U.s is.
- vbezhenar 4y agoI think he was good manager, good luck to him. It seems that Russia will concentrate on mostly military space applications from now on. So different kind of management will be required.
- mahoro 4y ago> I think he was good manager Oh, probably that's why in Russia he's known as 'Undertaker of space industry'. It makes sense.
- orbital-decay 4y agoSpeaking as someone who actually worked in the industry: he didn't take it down. The actual troubles started long before him, and even long before 90s; they weren't noticeable at first. In 70s, those bright rocket engineers who were given carte blanche for almost anything after the war (and showed it was worth it), started to abuse their positions to siphon resources from the state and to justify the existence of companies led by them. It was roughly the same process that was happening in NASA after Apollo, except NASA realized that early on, and somewhat corrected by starting to shift the spaceflight towards the commercial/private sector since 1985. Additionally, NASA never suffered a disintegration of the country and a decade of nothing. Rogozin was just a typical okay-ish manager of Putin era with an inflated ego, who also liked to shitpost to Twitter. The ones before him were even worse (like Komarov who plundered Khrunichev together with his friend Kalinovsky). His main blunder was that he tried to run it as a for-profit state corporation to cater to the government unwilling to pay more for a hopeless industry; otherwise, some of the decisions he made were sensible enough. But the Russian space industry couldn't have been "saved" by mediocrities like him. It needed to be rescaled and the program re-prioritized. The fundamental reform was long overdue, and it required political will from the government, that wasn't there.
- mahoro 4y agoThank you for your comment, it is unexpected. I've read bunch of news articles about Rogozin, Roscosmos and Vostochniy cosmodrome, and I would agree with 'okay-ish for Putin's era' assessment of his management. But I wouldn't separate his management from his public speeches. As top-level official, his shitposting may be as important as his management decisions. Before him, Russian space industry were decaying but it was declaring a peaceful goals (I remember ambitious Phobos-Grunt mission that was close to success). Now Roscosmos looks like a department of ministry of defence.
- option 4y agoThanks to rogozin, Russia is the first ever former space state.
- Rebelgecko 4y agoHow do you define former space state? For example, IIRC the UK is the only country that voluntarily gave up all launch capabilities (they're trying to reverse this though). The US had a patch not too long ago where we couldn't launch humans ourselves (getting people to the ISS was outsourced to Russia)
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago> How do you define former space state? Russia likely lacks the ability to indigenously develop a novel space platform. This is fine. Its economy is between New York and Florida. But for a culture geared towards dignity, it could be dangerous.
- nikolay 4y agoI'm not sure why SpaceX is allowed to have a troll for a boss and Roscosmos is not?!
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- inglor_cz 4y agoToo much trolling and not enough results.
- UkrainianJew 4y agoI find it rather worrying in the long term. Russia has been an extremely inefficient and corrupt state for the past 2 decades. Export oil & gas, import everything else, let the cronies pocket the proceeds, while having most manufacturing, defense and tech exist mostly on paper. People like Rogozin were promoted based on the loyalty and willingness to give a cut of the pie further up the ladder. Currently this trend appears to be reversing. The country is getting increasingly authoritarian [0], the economy is switching from a highly corrupt trickle-down-oil-money model, to centrally managed industrial economy driven by the war needs. I don't like where this is going. If Russia is pushed back into its borders, it will take a couple of years to ramp up weapons production and will retry. If it manages to successfully take over Ukraine, it will very likely press forward to attack other ex-USSR states. If China decides to join the party and rally out against Taiwan, we pretty much have a guaranteed WWIII until mutual exhaustion. [0] https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/07/14/vladimir-putin-enacted-more-than-100-new-laws-today-here-are-the-ones-you-need-to-know https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/07/14/vladimir-putin-enact...
- Wertigoyr 4y agoRussia has plenty of things missing (chips etc.) This will take much more than just a few years.
- lotusmars 4y agoSanctions will be lifted or eased long before tech embargo hits. Putin has too many points to cause pain for European politicians. For example grain shortage caused by his naval operations will cause hunger in North Africa. Revolts and refugee influx to Europe will follow. It’s enough for Europeans to put pressure on Ukraine to surrender. If it doesn’t they will spoon-feed it arms so it will surrender by fall.
- Wertigoyr 4y agoI also assume that they will have to surrender but the price will be much much higher than Putin though. This will not motivate Putin to push forward.
- ibobev 4y agoRogozin was highly incompetent and pure political appointment. It is a good step for Russia dismissing him.
- AnimalMuppet 4y agoDepends on who they replace him with. If they replace him with another pure political appointment, will it make any difference? And, is there any reason to think that they won't replace him with a purely political appointment?
- lizardactivist 4y agoI'm always surprised that there are so many "Kremlologists" and experts on Russia here on HN.
- midislack 4y agoTotal Information Awareness means they’re everywhere.