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How to fuck up an airport
- BergTheBold 4y agoOh this is an article about how someone else screwed up an airport? I was hoping to learn how to mess them up myself :(
- daxfohl 4y agoUsing F# (edit: This made sense before someone uncensored the title)
- h2odragon 4y agoScatter lots of birdseed around them. Probably not even illegal.
- brewdad 4y agoPull a fire alarm. Sneak through security or run past the TSA agent falling asleep near the exit of the secured area. Try to open one of those secured doors marked "alarm will sound". There's lots of ways. Note: This is not actual advice. Not responsible for any resulting fines or prison sentences.
- chasd00 4y agoHeh “run past the TSA agent” means gunfire is involved. That would definitely mess up an airport (and likely you too).
- vasco 4y agoVery annoying but not super bad. 1. Buy tickets to a bunch of flights on any day. 2. Check-in luggage with a raspberry pi inside with a bunch of electronics coming out of it and two powered 8 segment displays. 3. Do not board any of those planes. All those planes will be delayed while they remove your checked luggage from the hold since nowadays planes don't take-off with luggage if the traveller doesn't also board. With all planes delayed you can probably choke the runways and delay all departures.
- kortilla 4y agoI don’t see how 2 will accomplish anything extra here. If it gets caught in X-ray it will be before it goes on the plane.
- jandrese 4y agoStep one: Create the TSA.
- ChuckNorris89 4y agoEasy: political corruption masquerading as incompetence and bad luck, since our leaders have absolutely zero accountability, so they have no incentive to actually do anything right and can instead represent the interests of various businesses and interest groups using your tax money, and once their political career is over, they can get on the payroll as execs or consultants by the same business they helped get rich using taxpayer money.
- javajosh 4y agoMaybe technology, and a little behavioral modification, can help. For example, you can make an agreement with yourself: along with any online statement about endemic corruption, bad luck, lack of accountability, I will do something to reverse this trend I do not like. I will post the names of the politicians, businesses, consultants, responsible for a specific bad outcome. I think that would both strengthen your message and make you feel less helpless.
- fock 4y agoOn a meta-level I'd also be very interested, how many people actually now about corruption of the smallest governing body where they live (and can name some members which got voted in). Given the fleeting lifestyle propagated here and by American laws (hey, there's another job, let's move), it's no wonder the government is captured by landed elites. It's the peoples job to change that and yes, settling down somewhere helps.
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- m_fayer 4y agoYep. This is Germany, especially in the East, I've been dismayed to find. The destruction of the "sober and efficient" branding can't come soon enough.
- somishere 4y agoI have another method. Let everyone go during covid and then attempt to re-hire them all on less generous terms after the fact. Looking at you DUB (and no doubt many others).
- Jaruzel 4y agoHeathrow definitely. Yet still the UK holiday companies are endlessly pimping last minute summer deals with the knowledge that flights through July and August are going to be totally messed up.
- number6 4y agoSeemingly all of them across Europe done that. There are talks to hire experienced people from Turkey to help with the workers shortage. My guess, most people saw the airport job as a jumping board and just needed a push to quit and never come back.
- rocqua 4y agoImporting Turkish workers to handle Schiphol is going to cause a clusterfuck in Dutch politics through the islamophobes. The Turks were the biggest initial group of immigrants that caused backlash here.
- mschuster91 4y agoNot to mention it won't help at all since the workers will have to pass background checks, here in Germany it's 3-4 months...
- sschueller 4y agoSwiss airlines have the same issue. Pay is absolute garbage and some that have been there for 20 years are actually making less than they did back then. Many left and switched cariers during covid. It's an absolute shit show and if it keep going like this they will go bankrupt again. This time I hope we finally learn and have the government juat take it over or let it die off.
- odiroot 4y agoBest way: close the actual city airport that was functioning like a well-oiled machine and was loved by the city population. Even better, do it against their explicit wishes with a shady decision that reeks of corruption. Any follow-up to that will always end up being "fucked up".
- cyberpunk 4y agoI mean, sort of. The A gates which all had the separate security for each gate worked great. You could rock up 25 mins before your BA flight and just cruise right onto the plane. That stopped there though, did you ever fly from B or C? Tolerable enough if you're catching a commuter to Munich or something at 7am, but once it's filled with tourists it was appalling, far too small, far too crowded. Living in the west of the city, I'm quite happy having the airport moved further away for noise reasons though :}
- odiroot 4y agoI flew a lot from there, because I lived 10 minutes away from the airport (by bus). I mostly flew from C (cheap EU flights), sometimes from A and D (Asia, UK). I don't recall ever flying from B. I agree that A gates was a sweet spot but even C was great. The airport optimised for getting you out of there ASAP, both for departures and arrivals. I usually managed to get from the plane to my living room within 30 minutes (just with a carry-on, naturally).
- bobthepanda 4y agoAt least my experience visiting Berlin, A was a bit of a nightmare to fly non-Schengen from. Totally disorganized since having only security in the little gate area was already a tight fit.
- ben_w 4y agoRegarding noise, something I recorded under the flight path before TXL closed: https://youtu.be/OIu-dDKCBoI https://youtu.be/OIu-dDKCBoI
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- rover0 4y agoTLDR: * All the public bids where too expensive. so the City decided to be it's own contractor, it must be cheaper. * Keep changing plans, double the size .. after starting construction. * Hire an architect that hates shops, change all plans again to add shops. * Start paying contractors by time instead of by job, they start stealing. * because of all the changes : stairs don't fit, cable management is broken, firesafety doesn't work. * Don't fuck with german firesafety, they won't approve it, and you can't bribe them. 16 years later: opening with a capacity that is far below what's needed.
- bobthepanda 4y agoStep 1 is not necessarily the worst idea, but it depends on you hiring competent people and managers (and it sounds like everything that followed was a result of this failure.) The opposite end of the spectrum is CAHSR, which hired thousands of consultants with a staff of 180 and with very little to show for it https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-california-high-speed-rail-consultants-20190426-story.html https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-california-hi...
- rover0 4y agoBoth did it themselves instead of public procurement/public tender.
- bobthepanda 4y agoAt least the initial hiring of consultants was done publicly. (Subcontracting is usually not done via public tender, since it is assumed that the main contractor's bid includes the complexity and cost of whatever subcontractors they might need, and requiring public tender for everything would slow things down significantly.) The problem was that actually following the advice to keep minimal in-house staff who could check the work was really stupid, no matter who would win such tenders.
- vesinisa 4y agoThis podcast is outdated, right? It talks about the Brandenburg airport as if it had not finished. The deeply troubled airport is in fact open and in full service since 2020.
- chrisseaton 4y ago> in full service Have you been there? It’s a bit of a weird ghost-town. Definitely not quite in ‘full service.’
- pizza234 4y agoI've been there a short time ago, and had an approximately 30 minutes of security queue, so I wouldn't classify it as ghost town :)
- anamexis 4y agoAs Berlin's only airport, people are obviously flying out of it. But huge portions of the airport are very obviously unfinished.
- mike_hearn 4y agoWhat surprised me, given it's meant to be a shopping heaven, is how few food shops there are. At BER to get food we had to queue for a long time because every single food shop (there were only ~4-~5) had giant queues and there were nowhere near enough seats. Large areas remained panelled off. It seems like they struggled to get enough shops. The food places that did exist were real basic e.g. one was a currywurst shop.
- floydian10 4y agoIt is, but I live in Berlin and it's an absolutely shitty airport.
- Narretz 4y agoThere are multiple episodes and the latest deals with the opening / pandemic fallout
- AlexAffe 4y agoCan we take a moment and ponder over why the title is censored? Why are we all okay with this? Who are we protecting, who are we trying to deceive? Why is it fine with everyone, that a youtube SNL skit is bleeped out? What THE FUCK has gotten into us? Either use the word, or don't use it. Show the video, or don't show it. We should all stand tall for our (fought for) rights, this isn't the fucking 60s.
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- macspoofing 4y ago>this isn't the fucking 60s. Are you sure? These things are cyclical. For example, I would say we are way more prudish and puritan than we were in the 90s.
- oDot 4y agoI see you haven't been on Tiktok much
- bobthepanda 4y agoI mean, it really depends on what circles you are in, in our algorithmic-gatekeeped world. There was a bit of a movement in TikTok to get freaky stuff out of Pride Parades, for example, because the younger generation of LGBT has portions that are more prudish.
- ricardonunez 4y agoMy observation about that is that it is not a cycle but a constant motion. It is a consequence of pushing boundaries. We push and at some point we push back after a certain line has been crossed. We will probably find a balance at some point, then probably push forward again.
- besnn00 4y agoWhile I agree with your thought, I think a little verbal restraint would be better. Profanities add nothing of substance to discussions.
- franze 4y agoI just landed in BER 20 minutes ago and I am just amazed how bad the signage is The signs tiny and all in the same red/white color. The monitors tiny and sparse. The placement of the tickets for the trains placed where you do not pass. And just good luck if you go down the wrong stairway and then reached the nowhere, without any visible signs. They cared about the CI way more than about fast passenger throughput.
- bobthepanda 4y agoThe same architect who designed Tegel did BER. Sometimes, past performance is not indicative of the future.
- anamexis 4y agoI don't know, given the experience at Tegel, I'd say past performance is very indicative of future. What a terrible airport that was.
- arez 4y agowhat? Tegel was the best airport ever, you could literally be there 20min before check-in and still get your plane. Nowadays I have to arrive 3-4hrs before, tegel was a blessing a true king of all airports, all hail tegel
- kolinko 4y ago> Nowadays I have to arrive 3-4hrs before I flew through the new Berlin airport 2 times this week, and had no issues going through security and to the gates. That 3-4hrs in your case seems absurdly long - were there crazy lines at the checkin or sth?
- b112 4y agoNowadays I have to arrive 3-4hrs before This is true many places, although I tend to show with a tighter timetable myself. But it's so absurd, so silly. It's actually faster to drive from Ottawa to Toronto(4 to 5 hr drive) than take a plane, and cheaper.. even with current fuel costs, too. What a way to ruin a mode of travel.
- qolop 4y agoWhy can't such interesting articles be published without the unnecessary profanity? It actually prevents me from sharing it with a lot of people.
- mattcaldwell 4y agoThe world is falling apart and people are still worried about harmless words. Talk about misplaced concerns...
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- CharlesW 4y ago> The world is falling apart and people are still worried about harmless words. The parent mentioned that it prevents him from sharing, not that they were personally worried about it. I'm also perfectly comfortable using salty language with friends and family, but very rarely use it on social channels. It's all about context.
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- qolop 4y agoYou could literally say that about anything. The world is falling apart and people are worried about Nim compiler version 2.0. Talk about misplaced concerns. The world is falling apart and people are worried about who wins champions league this year. Talk about misplaced concerns. Where exactly is the line for you? What if this article began with a picture of a guy with his dick out fucking a pig that had a picture of an airport drawn on it. Would that still be acceptable? Because if its not then I have to say. The world is falling apart...
- mypalmike 4y agoSince the dawn of history, people have thought the world was falling apart. Maybe this isn't such a useful way of thinking.
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- sdfhdhjdw3 4y agoIs it possible to subscribe to this podcast on RSS? Or things on itunes in general?
- abawany 4y agoI was able to subscribe using Google Podcasts.
- yunohn 4y agoHere you go - https://www.radiospaetkauf.com/feed/ https://www.radiospaetkauf.com/feed/ I used https://getrssfeed.com/ https://getrssfeed.com/, though /feed is a standard path for RSS.
- sdfhdhjdw3 4y agoThank you!!
- hammock 4y agoDunno how, but should be yes. Podcasts in general are distributed to Spotify, iTunes, etc via RSS
- noasaservice 4y agoYou really want to fuck up an airport? Do the following, in no particular order. 1. Spoof GPS, as in emulate the constellation. Randomize it every few minutes. Move transmitter around. 2. Plain old jam GPS. You can buy cheap and nasty GPS jammers. If you're good with electronics, hook em up to a 555 timer and trigger to prevent a lock but like 5% duty cycle. 3. Spoof ADS-B to create thousands or 10's of thousands of planes in airspace. Most systems will die from not enough ram to handle these. If they do survive, then they'll get alerts from everything everywhere. 4. Jam ADS-B. Not as terrible, but still bad. 5. Build a Gnuradio flow that watches 117.975-137 MHz and selectively emits white noise on channels when in use. Kills comms.
- throw93232 4y agoThere are like 20k javelin missiles on black market now. Spoofing radio is innocent child game.
- midnightclubbed 4y agoActivate the ILS landing system. Recalibrate sea level - minus 200 feet.
- noasaservice 4y agoWrech with an airport != wreck a plane
- devoutsalsa 4y agoHuman fire alarms... Hans hovering near a kitchen on a new cook's first day. "Du verbrennst das Schnitzel! <utters fire alarm noises>"
- jansan 4y agoOne other thing is how they were lying about progress. We had tickets to land on the new airport in 2013! The shops had ordered their inventory, bus companies and taxi companies had purchased new vehicles, and the mayor of Berlin, Klaus Wowereit acted as if completions was still on schedule. What an absolute desaster. On the bright side, as long as the BER could not open, the international aviation show ILA was absolutely amazing, because they were able to use the infrastructure without having to care for ongoing air traffic.
- biztos 4y agoArguably off topic, but having suffered through BER several times, I have a few tips to share which might reduce your own suffering. First: post-security you will find some of the most disgusting food ever served in an airport, but hey it’s also expensive and the servers don’t hide how much they hate being there! However, there is a little shop near the left-side stairs that sells better alcohol as well as soft drinks, and various food including (last I checked) pretty decent sandwiches. Just get provisions there and have a seat near your gate. Second: when the security lines are moving too slowly it’s often worth trying the faraway one, which is actually outside the main hall. It’s so insanely counterintuitive, it’s the last one to get backed up. Third: on arrival you may want a train, and it’s not at all obvious what one goes where nor even which ticket you need. You can use a standard subway ticket with any train departing from the airport, and you can buy that ticket in advance with the BVG app. Oh, and the S-Bahn is probably not the train you want if you’re reading this comment. Just go to Hauptbahnhof and reorient from there, IMO. Guten Flug!
- kriz9 4y agoI would add two more suggestions here: 1) If you have 50€ to spare always take the taxy to the city center. If you take the train you will hate this airport as much as the one at Frankfurt. You can thank me later. 2) Use security lanes 1 or 5. They are the furthest and less busy. Everyone usually just queues up by the nearest one. Don't trust the indicators.
- ubaltaci 4y ago1) Why though? FEX is really nice, fast and have only couple of stops, it reaches to central station around 30min.
- rob74 4y agoYup, 50 € sounds like a lot of money for a few minutes saved (not to mention that it depends on the traffic situation if you will actually save some time). Of course, depending on where your hotel is and how many bags you have, a taxi may still be the better option...
- aldebran 4y agoFrankfurt airport is marginally better. Flights stop in the middle of the runway. Take a bus. Buses are late. Walk for what feels like eternity. No regard for accessibility. I’ve met multiple senior citizens frail, waiting for their wheel chairs and worried that they’re going to miss their connecting flights. As good as German engineering is, the airport infra is equally worse. It’s a shame. I like flying lufthansa. They have the shortest flight times to Asia from the west coast.
- jhugo 4y ago> I like flying lufthansa. They have the shortest flight times to Asia from the west coast. Can you elaborate on this? Where do you mean by "west coast"?
- aldebran 4y agoAnswered to your comment below.
- relix 4y agoIf no country is specified you can assume it’s an American talking about their country. So west coast, USA (California or Washington)
- jhugo 4y agoI did initially assume that, but then it doesn't make any sense at all. Lufthansa doesn't fly between the US West Coast and Asia except via Europe, and a large number of other airlines offer direct routes between the US West Coast and Asia which are obviously going to be substantially shorter. So... maybe they mean the west coast of some other country?
- aldebran 4y agoThis is exactly it. I fly to India. SEA to FRA to India is the general route. Lufthansa has the shortest flight times including the layover in Frankfurt. Every other airline takes at least a couple of hours more. Some take 4+ hours longer.
- 77pt77 4y agoI went to BER 1 month after opening. My terminal looked and felt like a prefab chicken coop.
- Pamar 4y agoThis was posted twice already here, the oldest copy is from 2019: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19765193 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19765193 - wasn't able to find a date for the podcast itself but maybe it would be better to put [201?] in the title?
- Linosaurus 4y ago18 Feb 2018, for ep1, according to Spotify.
- permo-w 4y agoI once spent some time in Berlin train station waiting for a long-distance train. it seemed like the layout of the entire train station had been rearranged without changing any of the sign posts. it was like a quite mundane nightmare
- redsid 4y agoA few decades ago, when my boss (senior exec at major US airline) was negotiating to be a part of Denver International Airport - he wrote in legalese requiring Denver Stapleton airport to be shutdown. He expected DIA to have tons of problems which it did, but killing Stapleton kept DIA on track. Couple of anecdotes - the baggage handling design (I saw the revised version) was shuttling suitcases easily above 25 miles/hour and the architects had them drop through chutes at such high speeds Much later, with the youtube era, I came across the various conspiracies on DIA. Good for a bored late night browsing
- hackernewds 4y agoWhat is the conspiracy take on the giant devil blue unicorn outside the DIA airport?
- chasd00 4y ago6 stories beneath it is the real Area 51 or something like that.
- yesiamyourdad 4y agoI moved to Denver a couple of years after DIA opened. I _hate_ DIA, it's an awful airport. The stupid train. The insane security lines. Baggage takes forever to come out. AUS? Great airport. PDX is a dream. SBA is my absolute favorite, like taking a trip back to the 1960s, walk off the ramp, pick up your bags from the pile they drop off. PHL? Yeah it's dirty and everything's broken, but still it's more efficient than DEN. EWR is expensive, DFW is too much sprawl, still... I hate DEN the most. I read an analysis of the baggage system about a year after DIA opened, and it was fascinating as a young engineer. Essentially, the original system could never work. Airlines schedule in clusters - they try to make groups of flights arrive in groups and depart in groups, this allows them to create connecting flights. But the DIA system couldn't handle spiky traffic loads, even though this is how airlines design their schedules. The ridiculous roof had leaks for years. The current round of modifications and renovations (on a 25 year old airport, they want to renovate?) have been going on more than 2 years, gone over budget, they've already fired the lead contractor once, from what I can tell they're a long way from completion. When I read that part of Berlin's issue was that they wanted more retail, I think this is why they're renovating, they're not trying to create a better traveling experience, they're trying to create a better shopping experience. They added a Westin onto the end of the terminal, the rates to stay there are absolutely insane. For the life of me, I can't understand why you'd stay out at the airport, when you're a train ride away from downtown. I'm sure that DIA is the result of a bunch of corruption (Denver is underrated for the corruption here), and I feel like the conspiracy theories are some weird outgrowth of the corruption in the city government here, like some bacteria bloom that pops up around a sewage plume.
- da39a3ee 4y agoGermany doesn't traditionally have a reputation for incompetence. It sounds like this podcast gives many proximate reasons for this project's failure. What are the ultimate reasons?
- anonu 4y agoThe new LGA terminal is probably a lesson in how not to fuck up an airport. It's beautiful. You'll notice design decisions that take into consideration the post 9/11 security setup: lots of security lines and automation to help move you along. It dawns on you that every airport in USA had to retrofit today's security setup in a space that previously never had it or is too small to create a good people flow.
- whymauri 4y agoThe public transport situation at LaGuardia is terrible, but the design of the new terminal makes traversing it really nice.
- mastercheif 4y agoFor anyone with a Passing interest in civil engineering, I highly recommend watching this presentation about the LGA redesign from one of the lead architects: https://youtu.be/Kil-slXgVys https://youtu.be/Kil-slXgVys
- anonu 4y agoThat was really good, thanks for sharing. Answered my questions on the deliberateness of all the design decisions I noticed and even the ones I didn't... Which is probably what makes for a good design.
- asdff 4y agoSecurity lines can make or break airports imo. LAX is nice because there are so many of them so they never get as absurd like they do at say DEN. Another perk to LAX is how fast you can get to and from your gate. It feels like 7 smaller airports wired in series versus some hulking ginormous beast. You can get off your flight and have your bag in hand in 10 minutes at LAX. At DEN you are waiting on a tram to get to baggage and I've gotten lost trying to find my correct carousel at that airport. It's basically impossible to get lost on the way to your bags at lax otoh, because once again 7 smaller airport effect in action means the baggage carousel is not a far walk from your gate.
- dabber21 4y agoI hope next time they simply hit up Hochtief...
- adam_arthur 4y agoHave a bunch of geographically clustered terminals with no ability to walk between them
- wyclif 4y agoNAIA (in the Philippines) is like that. Terrible design and layout. None of the four terminals are connected to each other, which means if you arrive internationally and are transferring to a domestic flight, you have to either get a shuttle bus or a taxi, the latter of which are notoriously scammy.
- 2143 4y agoAnd I'm told they're punctual. Haven't been to BER myself. There are some well designed airports in Asia (multiple countries). In USA, I personally felt SEA (Seattle-Tacoma) and DFW (Dallas/Fort-Worth) were rather good. LAX is a mess for domestic/international transfers, with remote terminals and having to go though multiple buses right through the middle of planes on tarmac. However, I've gone through LAX many times that I now know my way around. LAX was also the airport where I physically spotted the plane I had to board, and then figured out how to reach there by going in the general direction (because if you started your journey at a smaller airport and is changing planes at LAX, the original boaring pass you received may not have the gate written on it).
- asdff 4y agoI've never transferred through lax but I don't mind flying into and out of it. From that perspective its pretty good. 7 terminals distributes security lines well enough to never be that crowded when I go at least. Your gate is then a 10 min walk at most from security at your terminal. On the arrivals side, you hop off the plane and baggage claim is again a 10 minute walk away, usually my bag is already on the conveyer when I come to it. It's a farcry from the song and dance you have to do at airports like denver. It feels like its 7 small airports wired up in series. I can see how that could screw you if your transfer is between different airlines perhaps though.
- lukeh 4y agoEnjoying the podcast. I also remember having a ticket for BER a few years ago, ending up not landing there of course. I was there in May and it didn’t feel like a modern airport, it was pleasant but ceilings were low (after listening, no doubt an artifact of squeezing another floor in!) and signage for finding which train to take was terrible.
- ifelsethenyeah 4y agoI don't care about ascetics much at an airport except decorating around functionality. Around 2005, the newer Shanghai airport had information boards that didn't contain information except various permutations of Windows' BSODs. IIRC, it was that terrible, inefficient design of long and narrow. In general, DFW is a better layout: almost circles of gates globbed almost contiguous to each other as lettered terminals relatively close together connected by a bidirectional tram, many security screening entrances and exits, and people moving devices (i.e., moving walkways, "golf carts", etc.)
- chasd00 4y agoThe new terminal D at DFW is very nice. I like lovefield as like a “working persons” airport. No frills, no BS, just show up, get on the plane, and leave. However, given the choice, I would pick dfw term D every time.
- smaudet 4y agoRadio Spaetkauf Berlin: https://radiospaetkauf.libsyn.com/rss https://radiospaetkauf.libsyn.com/rss In case anyone wants to subscribe to the parent podcast.
- simonebrunozzi 4y agoAirports make 2/3rds of their money by renting space to shops, and the remaining third by allowing planes to fly. They have a strong incentive to be inefficient, so you will feel you need to arrive 2 hours before departure, or even more, because you don't want to risk losing your flight. I flew ~1,000 times, and saw ~300 airports. I could write tens of books on how to make airports better... But the problem is that the incentives are such that this is not the way to go. Airports want to make money by selling you stuff. Period. They don't care about giving you a great experience.
- f_allwein 4y agoan interesting exception is Munich airport, which was originally designed to minimise the distance passengers have to take to reach their plane. Well visible here: https://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/assets/news_articles/2016/11/1479805007_22nov16-munich-airport.jpg https://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/assets/news_articles/... Say you arrive by taxi, you would go down the street in the middle, drop off at one of the four check-in areas (the triangular structures), then make your way through check-in and security and you're almost at your plane. The train station is below this structure and in the centre. This opened in 1992 - Terminal 2, built later, uses a different approach with more shopping etc. along the way =)
- te_chris 4y agoIn my experience all German airports are terrible, particularly Munich and BER.
- MagnumOpus 4y agoTerrible is relative. Never been to BER, but FRA is far better than similar-sized European/US airports like LHR or LAX (though a far cry from best like Changi, Chek Lap Kok or Dubai), and the smaller international airports like STR or FKB are quick to traverse and comparatively easy to access.
- CPLX 4y agoIn my experience living in the most important city in the world the Berlin and Munich airports are a marvel of efficiency and comfort that I would kill to have back home.
- nix23 4y ago>Employees were busy stealing copper instead of fixing the fire system. Some managers got rich taking bribes. Informers had their coffee poisoned. I really don't get it why Berlin and Moscow don't get along very well, it's essentially the same. But Moscow is less dirty.