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Winamp

176 points by _ZeD_ 5y ago

sergiotapia 5y ago
too corporate. this is not whipping the llamas ass
- abathur 5y ago
  I mean, there is a llama button at the bottom of the page, and it does what you'd expect.
poisonborz 5y ago
Windows desktop audio players (which is still a very valid use case thank you) long moved on from the void Winamp left. My two favourites are AIMP (more aimed for single-file playing), and Foobar (more suited for large collections). Both are compatible with Winamp's DSP plugins, and can be even used with AVS ones, along with Winamp-like themes.
reactspa 5y ago
They're going to kill it, aren't they? Grab a working portable version of Winamp for Windows quickly from the internet before they ban those (portable means they don't need to be installed and hence you don't need administrative rights on your PC).
_bax 5y ago
Winamp based on electron? Pls no..
stavros 5y ago
"Remember WinAmp? Ever wondered what it would be like to kill it and reanimate its still-warm corpse as a monstrous Revenant, a mistake of nature? Well, wonder no more!"
mvkel 5y ago
I feel like this is Winamp in name only. Even the site lacks all the whimsy and, dare I say, punk rock attitude of the original. Winamp is for people who want to own their music. Those people no longer exist.
- jraph 5y ago
  We still exist :-) Though I'm using Clementine now. Winamp does not have builds for my OS, and they didn't manage to go open source unfortunately. Anyway, Clementine, if less charming and less appealing than Winamp, is actually a bit more ergonomic and powerful.
  - jcelerier 5y ago
    Same here but with Strawberry, a much more active fork afaik :)
- thesuitonym 5y ago
  I still use Winamp on Windows PCs.
- Semaphor 5y ago
  > Those people no longer exist. Sure they do, why else would bandcamp.com still be in business? That said, I grew up with Winamp but never understood the adoration for it. As soon as I wasn’t quite so young anymore, I preferred functional and not whimsy.
  - thrdbndndn 5y ago
    Same. As soon as I discovered foobar2000 I never looked back. Still using it today.
    - Semaphor 5y ago
      I probably would, but I found I preferred the library management aspects of MediaMonkey (Windows, proprietary), so that’s what I use today. But fb2k will always have a special place in my heart.
    - skocznymroczny 5y ago
      I had to use foobar2000 because Winamp was too heavyweight to smoothly play MP3s on a 486 machine.
dusted 5y ago
A name looking for a problem to solve, long since solved. You'll be dearly remembered as my mp3 player of choice from 95 to around 2001, so long and thanks for all the fish.
beardedaussie 5y ago
Is it just me, or is the UX of this page hostile? I have to scroll my scroll-wheel way too many times just to get to the next section, I couldn't even drag their little scroll indicator to move between them.
- crooked-v 5y ago
  I closed the page after about ten seconds for exactly that reason.
- riedel 5y ago
  Not only you and not only this issue: On my Fennec browser on Android it was also impossible to scroll because rendering seemed really slow. So I think they overdid that revamping a bit.
  - bmlzootown 5y ago
    The site brought my S10+ to a screeching halt. I had to force-kill Harmonic, the HN client I use on my phone, just to get out of it. Site preloading via an in-app webview is nice until you happen upon a site like this.
- BadOakOx 5y ago
  I tried to open it on mobile and it was unbearably laggy.
- thrdbndndn 5y ago
  It literally freezes my browser when opening it.
  - icelancer 5y ago
    Same. I thought Chrome crashed, but it stalled for just 5 seconds.
- superasn 5y ago
  Yeah one of the bad landing pages. 1) Explains nothing: "something big is happening." 2) Hides the scrollbar 3) Spikes the CPU usage I closed the tab after this but I'm sure there is more :/
Lammy 5y ago
I just hope they don't go after WACUP https://getwacup.com/ https://getwacup.com/
emptyparadise 5y ago
Llama's ass status: unwhipped
- dalmo3 5y ago
  Not even Alpaca material.
- minaguib 5y ago
  Scroll to the bottom, find the llama, click it :)
  - Tempest1981 5y ago
    How do you scroll? Seems to be stuck.
  - slmjkdbtl 5y ago
    Scrolling seems to be impossible on this site
LeoPanthera 5y ago
This looks like it was developed by someone who doesn't understand why the original WinAmp was (and continues to be) so popular.
- StevePerkins 5y ago
  New Star Wars and Star Trek properties are developed by people who don't understand (or even like) the original Star Wars or Star Trek properties. As always, when rebooting or remaking something from the 1990's, they're hoping they can get a payday from: 1. Curious young people who missed out on the original, and will check it out because those poor souls have no pop culture of their own and have grown accustomed to remakes. 2. Crusty old farts who complain about everything, but a lot of time still check it out anyway out of nostalgia. They usually DO make enough of a payday to justify the model.
  - thesuitonym 5y ago
    Getting off topic here, but Star Trek: Lower Decks certainly has some people on staff who love Star Trek.
    - waltbosz 5y ago
      Do they love Star Trek, or are they just skilled at poking fun at the silly previously unacknowledged parts of the Star Trek universe? For example, the holodeck cum filters joke. I like the show so-so, but I feel like the non-humorous writing is a bit lazy. Tangential: Have you noticed in the new Star Wars movies, where a character will quote a line from a previous movie in an attempted nod to fans who eat up that sort of stuff. For me, it elicits an eye-roll, like when my dad keeps recycling the same corny jokes.
    - IntelMiner 5y ago
      +1 for Lower Decks Picard and Discovery are...pretty bad, but Lower Decks has a lot of people that truly love Star Trek on it and it shines through in the sheer attention to detail and jokes delivered in every episode
barryvan 5y ago
It's not exactly clear what this is. Is it a music player, or a new streaming service? They make a big deal about their history, but then also talk about fair revenue for creators. I have a vague fear that it's going to try and do something like Brave's "BAT" but for music that you have locally -- which I guess could work if you distribute your music for free (as I do for much of mine), but doesn't make sense if you purchase your music. I certainly can't see myself wanting to pay for the same music twice -- once for the physical or digital copy, and then again for "Winamp Attention Tokens". Much more likely though that it's just another music streaming service.
- varispeed 5y ago
  > also talk about fair revenue for creators. If it was fair then they wouldn't have to label it as such... or if this is a classic PR language then you must ask fair to whom?
  - unethical_ban 5y ago
    >If it was fair then they wouldn't have to label it as such. This doesn't compute. It is recognized that compensation to artists is a sticking point with several streaming platforms. If a new one comes along and says "we're different", what is wrong with advertising a competitive advantage?
ur-whale 5y ago
If the site UX is a portent of what the product will be like, then pass, thank you very much.
reph2097 5y ago
The website is unusable on my Pixel 4a. Won't read, won't use.
a-dub 5y ago
parent company here: https://www.audiovalley.com/ https://www.audiovalley.com/
- ladyattis 5y ago
  Wow they butchered Jamendo badly. I use to go through there to listen to small prog rock bands years ago.
systemvoltage 5y ago
This is a disgrace to the name - Winamp. Same design monoculture of Big Tech and SaaS.
anon321321323 5y ago
Ugh! Can't we have a version of VLC that simply accepts winamp skins? That would be a much better idea.
- chungy 5y ago
  Tried Audacious?
  - anon321321323 5y ago
    not... yet.
- aasasd 5y ago
  Kinda, apparently: https://www.vlchelp.com/winamp-skins-vlc-media-player/ https://www.vlchelp.com/winamp-skins-vlc-media-player/ https://www.askvg.com/download-winamp-2-classic-skin-for-vlc-media-player/ https://www.askvg.com/download-winamp-2-classic-skin-for-vlc... This sounds dubious and/or outdated: https://www.hacktrix.com/how-to-apply-winamp-skins-on-vlc-media-player https://www.hacktrix.com/how-to-apply-winamp-skins-on-vlc-me... Perhaps images can be replaced in the skins that work, the oldschool way.
- jbk 5y ago
  Vlc supports original Winamp skins… I plan to improve this in the future btw :)
- pferde 5y ago
  There is QMMP, which has been my daily driver for many years, and is still under active development. https://qmmp.ylsoftware.com/features.php https://qmmp.ylsoftware.com/features.php
- stan_rogers 5y ago
  VLC doesn't do gapless. That disqualifies it as a reasonable music player.
deelowe 5y ago
OMG. How many UX antipatterns did they cram into this site?
mike_d 5y ago
After being sold to AOL, it looks like the Winamp/Shoutcast/Nullsoft IP was sold to targetspot.com, an audio advertising company.
aasasd 5y ago
Yeah, I can see this improving my listening experience or whatever, absolutely. It will be totally rad, yo. I hope I can slap all the 300 V2 skins from my collection onto this, plus dsp_audiostocker—otherwise no deal, going to fb2k instead. I have a good (imo) tagline for this: > Apropos of nothing, the webservice
singingfish 5y ago
I like what Justin Frankel went on to do with Reaper. This site looks like someone bought a trademark to try to resurrect the name.
- theandrewbailey 5y ago
  That happened years ago. Not just the trademark, but everything like Shoutcast. https://techcrunch.com/2014/01/14/aol-sells-winamp-and-shoutcast-for-5-10m-to-radionomy-takes-12-stake-in-belgian-digital-audio-company/ https://techcrunch.com/2014/01/14/aol-sells-winamp-and-shout...
shultays 5y ago
The page freezes my browser (firefox) for a few seconds
black_puppydog 5y ago
While the landing page is a good example of how terrible the web is nowadays, the forums are great! Such a refreshing modern^Wsober take on UI: http://forums.winamp.com http://forums.winamp.com
- accrual 5y ago
  Good old vBulletin. Iconic forum software. Full of holes, but we love it anyways.
accrual 5y ago
> Solo performer, band or label? Register now for updates on the new Winamp, and how to release your music to a brand new audience. So it's a platform like Spotify and Apple Music now, not a media player. As someone who grew up with Winamp on my secondhand Pentium II laptop in the 90's, I don't care. This doesn't appeal to me. The original Winamp died a long time ago. Winamp, as it's intended to be, lives on in the WACUP project. It's compiled for modern systems and is just as configurable, if not moreso, than the original Winamp. This is what I use for my local needs and I'm completely satisfied with it. I run it on a 4K display in double (2x) scale mode and a modified classic theme. It's perfect. :) https://getwacup.com/ https://getwacup.com/
- Dextro 5y ago
  Shout out for WACUP. Just found out about it recently and was pleasantly surprised to see Doctor.O was behind it. Now there's a name I still remember from the old winamp forums. He was a developer for Winamp until the end of the AOL days.
arketyp 5y ago
I'm conditioned on Winamp classic skin for my oldschool mp3 listening the way I suppose audiophiles want the ritual of dropping the arm on the LP. Since as early as I can remember I have downloaded some obsolete version of Winamp due to bloat and desperate re-branding/re-appropriation. A re-imagined Winamp is a paradox, but then again it was more or less always abandonware.
nonameking2026 5y ago
I'll post this here as well. https://web.archive.org/web/0/https://www.winamp.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/0/https://www.winamp.com/
steveharman 5y ago
Viewing the winamp.com site in my HN client (Materialistic, Android 10) causes the app to freeze with the only available option to quit & relaunch.
aliswe 5y ago
Grinds my 12 (logical) core, 32GB RAM dell XPS to a halt unfortunately
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squarefoot 5y ago
Brings the CPU load to 20%+ to do absolutely nothing. If that page says something about the product, it will be a huge failure.
squarefoot 5y ago
Winamp nostalgics might want to try Qmmp, which inherited the old Winamp spirit (small, fast, bloat-less). Runs on Linux, BSD, Haiku, Windows, and possibly MacOS as well. https://qmmp.ylsoftware.com/ https://qmmp.ylsoftware.com/
mickotron 5y ago
Yes yes yes, swanky new website. But does it whip the Llama's ass?
diimdeep 5y ago
Is there a decent offline player for macOS ? Vox isn't anymore, with basic paid features and cloud bloat. Opus support is crucial. update: Just found this, written in Swift with skins support, neat :) https://www.producthunt.com/posts/re-amp https://www.producthunt.com/posts/re-amp + https://skins.webamp.org https://skins.webamp.org
- argonium 5y ago
  I use Vox but without any cloud or premium features. It's free and works well enough on my Mac. https://vox.rocks/mac-music-player https://vox.rocks/mac-music-player
  - diimdeep 5y ago
    Yes it was great, and still … I use Vox 2.7.7, but not sure how long it will last with macOS moving forward. It was last version without requirement to login in cloud and pay subscription to use features as simple as equalizer. But even with this version, I had to `chmod -x /Applications/VOX.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/*` to stop background crap.
XCSme 5y ago
The landing page doesn't load for me, it's just a dark blue background. LE: It finished loaded after about 2 minutes.
schappim 5y ago
I’m disappointed there are no mention of llamas and whipping… In all seriousness though, Winamp took their slogan "It really whips the llama's ass!" from a song by an infamous, schizophrenic outsider-musician and visual artist named Wesley Willis[1]. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Willis https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Willis
- cr3ative 5y ago
  Scroll to bottom right. Click llama.
  - schappim 5y ago
    Thank you sir!
  - Tempest1981 5y ago
    Any tricks to make it scroll? I'm stuck on the page of artists.
izhak 5y ago
It Really Whips the Llama's Ass!
- theandrewbailey 5y ago
  This webpage totally doesn't whip any ass. It's just ass.
varispeed 5y ago
Oh no, hopefully it will not be another privacy violating CPU hog. Why can't they just maintain the original Winamp? Making sure it's up to date, maybe improve the quality of equaliser etc. I really don't want to "connect with the artist" nor I want artists to shove their content into my playlist. I also don't want any cloud garbage - I want to play files from my media only, without any tracking. It seems to me what this will end up with is fake artists creating content optimised for conversions rather than art coming from their soul.
blunte 5y ago
I miss the assortment of mesmerizing visualizations from the early days of Winamp. The succesor apps never seemed to offer the same quality of visualizations, and then that whole concept seems to have faded away.
- willis936 5y ago
  Milkdrop was closed source. You might be happy with ProjectM. https://github.com/projectM-visualizer/projectM https://github.com/projectM-visualizer/projectM
  - garaetjjte 5y ago
    Milkdrop was open sourced too http://www.geisswerks.com/milkdrop/ http://www.geisswerks.com/milkdrop/
- instagraham 5y ago
  Milkdrop!!! For so many years, I remember wishing I could learn how to make these visualisations (usually whilst absolutely hammered). Never acted on the impulse.
- deleted 5y ago
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nbzso 5y ago
I expect some SaaS with ads on top from this Winamp reincarnation. Someone will try to "Spotify" the brand, UX and the player. And by the way, I hate to be "that" guy but this landing page is horrific. Starting with the sign/branding and ending with "colorful animated excitement" that is trying to kill my web-browser.
- JohnWhigham 5y ago
  I'm willing to bet it will be an Electron application...
mdp2021 5y ago
Does anyone know if there exist players on Linux on which one can code visualizations (i.e. visual effects following the sound), as we could do on Winamp? (Of course, it would be even better if we could use the same syntax - and reuse those of Winamp...) -- Edit: I see that there exist a "ProjectM", reimplementation of MilkDrop (Ryan Geiss 2001, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MilkDrop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MilkDrop). The scripts ("presets") are as expected open and are ".milk" text files to be placed in a directory (/usr/share/projectM/presets). Large backward compatibility with the original scripts exist. I see at least a collection is found on archive.org ; another is at mywinamp.com ... I see the github repository also links to big collections ( https://github.com/projectM-visualizer/projectM https://github.com/projectM-visualizer/projectM ). ProjectM does not need a player: it listens to the played audio for the beat etc. But I understand it is also embedded in Kodi, Helix, Silverjuke and Silent Radiance Distance Disco. ... It seems also VLC uses it (not on all platforms, they write).
marcodiego 5y ago
This site is a good example of what a site should not be. It is the antithesis of what winamp was.
- episode0x01 5y ago
  Yeah you weren't kidding. "Heavy", to say the least
  - willcipriano 5y ago
    This site probably requires more resources then the original Winamp required.
    - Cthulhu_ 5y ago
      Probably? The original Winamp ran on hardware much slower than anything you can buy new these days. This website, not a chance.
      - robotmay 5y ago
        This website doesn't even run smoothly on my overpowered gaming desktop. Back in 2000 I'd have never thought we'd be at the point where I can run games in 4K happily but not scroll through a website without it lagging up.
    - AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
      Dude, this site almost certainly requires orders of magnitude more resources than Win95 + Winamp.
- notyourwork 5y ago
  It reminds me of Apple product pages where the scroll is hijacked.
- ChuckNorris89 5y ago
  I was also caught off guard by this horror. I was expecting a really lean and to the point website that reflects the qualities of the original Winamp. This really DOESN'T whip the llamma's ass. Here's the original website in 1998 for reference. https://web.archive.org/web/19981205015145/http://winamp.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/19981205015145/http://winamp.com... The more I look at it, the more I hate the modern web. It's madness.
floor_ 5y ago
The site locked my browser up. Big yikes.
dpeck 5y ago
This no longer whips the llamas ass.
ryanmercer 5y ago
Oof, that made my browser temporarily unresponsive - I haven't had that happen in years.
johnwheeler 5y ago
Something needs to be done about these cookie dialogs the EU imposes on the rest of the world. What a stupid rule.
- dijit 5y ago
  That is malicious compliance on the part of the offending site. The intention was to get consent so that people cannot track you without consent. Instead: Everyone puts up cookie dialogs instead of getting rid of cookies. You hate the EU for this, but you should be asking why this site needs to have cookies.
  - johnwheeler 5y ago
    I don’t hate the EU for this. How did you extrapolate that? Also, when something has unintended consequences, the responsible party should own up to it—not throw their hands in the air and call everyone else stupid. What a ridiculous mentality to have.
    - dijit 5y ago
      >when something has unintended consequences, the responsible party should own up to it That's exactly what happened. You really should read up about things you seem to have strong feelings about. The EU declared the "EU Cookie Rule" (the ePrivacy Directive) a failure, due to malicious compliance, and was one of the reasons the GDPR became a thing. Ad companies really shot themselves in the foot there.[0][1] > Something needs to be done about these cookie dialogs the EU imposes on the rest of the world. What a stupid rule. This puts the blame on the EU, not on the Ad companies doing this, which is where I 'extrapolated' from; there's not another intepretation of this phrase that I'm aware of. [0]: This is where they say the ePrivacy directive has failed: https://edps.europa.eu/data-protection/our-work/publications/court-cases/edps-pleading-hearing-court-justice-cases-c-62317_en https://edps.europa.eu/data-protection/our-work/publications... [1]: This is where they detail exactly why the ePrivacy rules needed to be expanded: https://gdpr.eu/cookies/ https://gdpr.eu/cookies/
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InsomniacL 5y ago
hopefully not an indication of what Winamp is to become.
mattowen_uk 5y ago
A less hostile [article] link: https://www.extremetech.com/computing/329258-winamp-prepares-to-relaunch-can-it-still-whip-the-llama-in-2021 https://www.extremetech.com/computing/329258-winamp-prepares... And: According to AudioValley, which is the parent company of Winamp and Shoutcast, the new app is going to "become the one-stop platform for audio enthusiasts, which connects creators and consumers of music, podcasts, radio stations, audiobooks, and any other peripheral content." I have a bad feeling about this.
- bambax 5y ago
  What are "audio enthusiasts"?? People who have ears?
  - jandrese 5y ago
    The way I understand it is regular people use their equipment to listen to music. Audio enthusiasts use the music to listen to their equipment.
    - bambax 5y ago
      Ha! Not what the website is trying to say, but yes, probably true in general ;-)
- s_dev 5y ago
  'One stop shop' is the polar opposite of 'do one thing really well'.
  - PostThisTooFast 5y ago
    WinAmp never did anything well. That record looks set to continue.
  - emodendroket 5y ago
    If you want a dedicated music player, there are options like fubar, but very few people want that anymore, so it's hard to see why anybody would waste their time and money on such a project.
fimdomeio 5y ago
I think both for me and for a lot of people the most relevant thing in the winamp brand is the historical ui which was amazing. If these guys can't deliver on that I'm not sure if there's any value in using the winamp brand. So whatever their plan is, I hope it's the opposite to this website.
ziml77 5y ago
My suspicions were raised seeing a site using the Winamp name. When it didn't display anything but the background for a few seconds on my overpowered desktop and internet connection, I was afraid it was trying to run an exploit of some sort. I closed the page before even seeing it. And while it seems that's not the case, I'm still suspicious of the project since it sounds like it's just going to be the same as any other modern music player, just riding on the Winamp nostalgia.
bloqs 5y ago
No exaggeration, this is one of the laggiest and most horrible sites that I have ever opened on my phone. It killed my Galaxy S20 dead
FpUser 5y ago
I have a mental problem with sites like this. I want to see what this is all about without endless and needless scrolling. Greeting users with delay and some lava lamp blobs is probably not the best way. But what do I know. I am down to business guy so others might have different idea.
JohnWhigham 5y ago
Seems like a good location to ask this: I've been on Winamp 5.x for a while, I'd like to move over to WACUP, but I really want to keep all my listening statistics. Is there an easy easy to export that database?
- MrStonedOne 5y ago
  wacup stores that info in appdata/roaming/wacup/plugins/ml winamp likely stories it in appdata/roaming/winamp/plugins/ml should be easy to just copy over the folder, should likely back it up before installing just to be safe. found this for more info on the media library database: https://github.com/neuralys/nde https://github.com/neuralys/nde
hericium 5y ago
With NoScript[1][2], the page works but it's a typical thin content, new age marketing gibberish with little value. There however are links to forums[3] and stable version download[4] and a nice picture of a llama[5]. [1] https://noscript.net/ https://noscript.net/ [2] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/noscript/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/noscript/ [3] http://forums.winamp.com/ http://forums.winamp.com/ [4] https://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/client/winamp58_3660_beta_full_en-us.exe https://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/client/winamp58_3660_be... [5] https://www.winamp.com/assets/img/lama.png https://www.winamp.com/assets/img/lama.png
- trinsic2 5y ago
  After I enabled scripts to allow the dynamic content to load, I was presented with a blank screen for about 10 seconds, I was thinking, "what a waste of time so far", but then it finally loaded some animated content that says nothing. Bad start in my humble opinion. Animated websites without real content are the bane of the Internetz existence.
- JeremyNT 5y ago
  Does it really work with noscript enabled, to any degree? I use uBlock origin in its "default deny" mode and the site does nothing beyond rendering a blue background. I'm reluctant to enable any scripts on this site based on others' reports.
  - hericium 5y ago
    It's a WordPress not a full-blown app that won't render anything but an error without JavaScript. I've got NoScript to block all JS, including 1st party, by default. On this website the browser shows from top: - white marketing-ish text on blue background, stating something about "totally remastered" "next-generation" WinAMP, followed by pictures of "artists". - dark text on white background inviting to future (I presume) beta tests, links for "creators" who might want to release music on the future (I presume) platform and an invitation for "any type" of business partnerships - links straight to last stable .exe download, social media accounts, legal notice, privacy policy and other usual footer stuff Based on other comments, I presume that this is all there is to see apart from fireworks and increased electricity bill. The site has content like a typical startup site.
pkphilip 5y ago
That such a terrible website. All that is wrong with the new fangled web design
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ChrisArchitect 5y ago
I don't really care what's going on here with a relaunch and flashy/bloated site (Winamp 5.8 works fine/great), but the in the footer playing the classic "whips" sound is a nice touch.
khazhoux 5y ago
I may get accused of UI nostalgia, but I'm always shocked that the simple UX of winamp is not found on any modern media player (at least none I've found in 2021, on MacOS). I just want to: * Go to desktop and select one of more folders full of music. * Right-click -> Play, or drag into the player. Either add or replace to existing file set. * Select or de-select shuffle That's it. Why is this so hard??
- rawrmaan 5y ago
  Doesn't VLC do this?
  - bryans 5y ago
    VLC is surprisingly terrible for audio. It struggles to read tags and almost never auto-sorts properly, it cuts off the end of tracks, there's no ability to play without gaps, etc.
    - Minor49er 5y ago
      I use VLC as my primary audio player. While I can't speak to the sorting and tagging issues, I can't say I've ever heard it cut off ends of tracks or play without gaps. Maybe those are related to your sound buffer settings
      - bryans 5y ago
        Gapless playback won't be available until VLC 4. Audio getting cut off at the end has been a known issue for 10 years, and will apparently be fixed in v4, as well. I realize that I could be running the nightly to fix the audio issue, but then I'm just trading for other existing v4 bugs -- and these fixes were only implemented very recently into the nightly, so for me at least, VLC has still been a very subpar audio player. https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc/-/issues/25181 https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc/-/issues/25181 https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc/-/issues/549 https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc/-/issues/549
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tristor 5y ago
This website is horrible even with uBlock Origin and NoScript. I am assuming the new Winamp will also be horrible. I think I'll stick to Foobar2k, which has been absolutely fantastic for decades.
k1ll3r 5y ago
What a trainwreck.
gosukiwi 5y ago
Man that page is heavy. It froze my browser for a few seconds, and my computer isn't even that bad.
arendtio 5y ago
Sounds like the Winamp 3.0 announcement and we all remember what a huge success it was ;-)
progman32 5y ago
Infinite reloading loop on my months old phone running up to date Firefox... With each reload taking about ten seconds on fast wifi.
nice_byte 5y ago
the design of this website does not instill confidence at all. it's like the polar opposite if what winamp used to be. luckily, old versions still function perfectly well with windows 10!
constantinum 5y ago
On Justin Frankel's website(the person who wrote the original Winamp) Some one actually had asked this question and his reply https://www.askjf.com/index.php?q=5935s https://www.askjf.com/index.php?q=5935s Question: Did you see the announcement about the winamp relaunch? Answer: Yeah. I regret not buying Winamp back when I had the chance; it wouldn't have been expensive and it was out of a sort of selfishness not doing it (not feeling like dealing with the stress of it). While the new owners appear to have the best intentions, sadly at this point it's pretty obvious that they don't have the right skills/process to do it right. IMO they're looking at it from a top-down perspective, rather than bottom-up. I'd love for them to prove me wrong. :/
y-c-o-m-b 5y ago
RIP my I5 CPU. This is perhaps the worst website I have ever visited and I am a developer that has seen many terrible sites. Is there a bitcoin mining script or something? Good lord, Firefox with uBlock origin couldn't even load it properly. This is the browser edition of covid
unbad505 5y ago
I hate this website, such bad UX.

Winamp

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sergiotapia 5y ago

too corporate. this is not whipping the llamas ass

abathur 5y ago
I mean, there is a llama button at the bottom of the page, and it does what you'd expect.

poisonborz 5y ago

Windows desktop audio players (which is still a very valid use case thank you) long moved on from the void Winamp left. My two favourites are AIMP (more aimed for single-file playing), and Foobar (more suited for large collections). Both are compatible with Winamp's DSP plugins, and can be even used with AVS ones, along with Winamp-like themes.

reactspa 5y ago

They're going to kill it, aren't they? Grab a working portable version of Winamp for Windows quickly from the internet before they ban those (portable means they don't need to be installed and hence you don't need administrative rights on your PC).

_bax 5y ago

Winamp based on electron? Pls no..

stavros 5y ago

"Remember WinAmp? Ever wondered what it would be like to kill it and reanimate its still-warm corpse as a monstrous Revenant, a mistake of nature? Well, wonder no more!"

mvkel 5y ago

I feel like this is Winamp in name only. Even the site lacks all the whimsy and, dare I say, punk rock attitude of the original. Winamp is for people who want to own their music. Those people no longer exist.

jraph 5y ago
We still exist :-) Though I'm using Clementine now. Winamp does not have builds for my OS, and they didn't manage to go open source unfortunately. Anyway, Clementine, if less charming and less appealing than Winamp, is actually a bit more ergonomic and powerful.
- jcelerier 5y ago
  Same here but with Strawberry, a much more active fork afaik :)
thesuitonym 5y ago
I still use Winamp on Windows PCs.
Semaphor 5y ago
> Those people no longer exist. Sure they do, why else would bandcamp.com still be in business? That said, I grew up with Winamp but never understood the adoration for it. As soon as I wasn’t quite so young anymore, I preferred functional and not whimsy.
- thrdbndndn 5y ago
  Same. As soon as I discovered foobar2000 I never looked back. Still using it today.
  - Semaphor 5y ago
    I probably would, but I found I preferred the library management aspects of MediaMonkey (Windows, proprietary), so that’s what I use today. But fb2k will always have a special place in my heart.
  - skocznymroczny 5y ago
    I had to use foobar2000 because Winamp was too heavyweight to smoothly play MP3s on a 486 machine.

dusted 5y ago

A name looking for a problem to solve, long since solved. You'll be dearly remembered as my mp3 player of choice from 95 to around 2001, so long and thanks for all the fish.

beardedaussie 5y ago

Is it just me, or is the UX of this page hostile? I have to scroll my scroll-wheel way too many times just to get to the next section, I couldn't even drag their little scroll indicator to move between them.

crooked-v 5y ago
I closed the page after about ten seconds for exactly that reason.
riedel 5y ago
Not only you and not only this issue: On my Fennec browser on Android it was also impossible to scroll because rendering seemed really slow. So I think they overdid that revamping a bit.
- bmlzootown 5y ago
  The site brought my S10+ to a screeching halt. I had to force-kill Harmonic, the HN client I use on my phone, just to get out of it. Site preloading via an in-app webview is nice until you happen upon a site like this.
BadOakOx 5y ago
I tried to open it on mobile and it was unbearably laggy.
thrdbndndn 5y ago
It literally freezes my browser when opening it.
- icelancer 5y ago
  Same. I thought Chrome crashed, but it stalled for just 5 seconds.
superasn 5y ago
Yeah one of the bad landing pages. 1) Explains nothing: "something big is happening." 2) Hides the scrollbar 3) Spikes the CPU usage I closed the tab after this but I'm sure there is more :/

Lammy 5y ago

I just hope they don't go after WACUP https://getwacup.com/ https://getwacup.com/

emptyparadise 5y ago

Llama's ass status: unwhipped

dalmo3 5y ago
Not even Alpaca material.
minaguib 5y ago
Scroll to the bottom, find the llama, click it :)
- Tempest1981 5y ago
  How do you scroll? Seems to be stuck.
- slmjkdbtl 5y ago
  Scrolling seems to be impossible on this site

LeoPanthera 5y ago

This looks like it was developed by someone who doesn't understand why the original WinAmp was (and continues to be) so popular.

StevePerkins 5y ago
New Star Wars and Star Trek properties are developed by people who don't understand (or even like) the original Star Wars or Star Trek properties. As always, when rebooting or remaking something from the 1990's, they're hoping they can get a payday from: 1. Curious young people who missed out on the original, and will check it out because those poor souls have no pop culture of their own and have grown accustomed to remakes. 2. Crusty old farts who complain about everything, but a lot of time still check it out anyway out of nostalgia. They usually DO make enough of a payday to justify the model.
- thesuitonym 5y ago
  Getting off topic here, but Star Trek: Lower Decks certainly has some people on staff who love Star Trek.
  - waltbosz 5y ago
    Do they love Star Trek, or are they just skilled at poking fun at the silly previously unacknowledged parts of the Star Trek universe? For example, the holodeck cum filters joke. I like the show so-so, but I feel like the non-humorous writing is a bit lazy. Tangential: Have you noticed in the new Star Wars movies, where a character will quote a line from a previous movie in an attempted nod to fans who eat up that sort of stuff. For me, it elicits an eye-roll, like when my dad keeps recycling the same corny jokes.
  - IntelMiner 5y ago
    +1 for Lower Decks Picard and Discovery are...pretty bad, but Lower Decks has a lot of people that truly love Star Trek on it and it shines through in the sheer attention to detail and jokes delivered in every episode

barryvan 5y ago

It's not exactly clear what this is. Is it a music player, or a new streaming service? They make a big deal about their history, but then also talk about fair revenue for creators. I have a vague fear that it's going to try and do something like Brave's "BAT" but for music that you have locally -- which I guess could work if you distribute your music for free (as I do for much of mine), but doesn't make sense if you purchase your music. I certainly can't see myself wanting to pay for the same music twice -- once for the physical or digital copy, and then again for "Winamp Attention Tokens". Much more likely though that it's just another music streaming service.

varispeed 5y ago
> also talk about fair revenue for creators. If it was fair then they wouldn't have to label it as such... or if this is a classic PR language then you must ask fair to whom?
- unethical_ban 5y ago
  >If it was fair then they wouldn't have to label it as such. This doesn't compute. It is recognized that compensation to artists is a sticking point with several streaming platforms. If a new one comes along and says "we're different", what is wrong with advertising a competitive advantage?

ur-whale 5y ago

If the site UX is a portent of what the product will be like, then pass, thank you very much.

reph2097 5y ago

The website is unusable on my Pixel 4a. Won't read, won't use.

a-dub 5y ago

parent company here: https://www.audiovalley.com/ https://www.audiovalley.com/

ladyattis 5y ago
Wow they butchered Jamendo badly. I use to go through there to listen to small prog rock bands years ago.

systemvoltage 5y ago

This is a disgrace to the name - Winamp. Same design monoculture of Big Tech and SaaS.

anon321321323 5y ago

Ugh! Can't we have a version of VLC that simply accepts winamp skins? That would be a much better idea.

chungy 5y ago
Tried Audacious?
- anon321321323 5y ago
  not... yet.
aasasd 5y ago
Kinda, apparently: https://www.vlchelp.com/winamp-skins-vlc-media-player/ https://www.vlchelp.com/winamp-skins-vlc-media-player/ https://www.askvg.com/download-winamp-2-classic-skin-for-vlc-media-player/ https://www.askvg.com/download-winamp-2-classic-skin-for-vlc... This sounds dubious and/or outdated: https://www.hacktrix.com/how-to-apply-winamp-skins-on-vlc-media-player https://www.hacktrix.com/how-to-apply-winamp-skins-on-vlc-me... Perhaps images can be replaced in the skins that work, the oldschool way.
jbk 5y ago
Vlc supports original Winamp skins… I plan to improve this in the future btw :)
pferde 5y ago
There is QMMP, which has been my daily driver for many years, and is still under active development. https://qmmp.ylsoftware.com/features.php https://qmmp.ylsoftware.com/features.php
stan_rogers 5y ago
VLC doesn't do gapless. That disqualifies it as a reasonable music player.

deelowe 5y ago

OMG. How many UX antipatterns did they cram into this site?

mike_d 5y ago

After being sold to AOL, it looks like the Winamp/Shoutcast/Nullsoft IP was sold to targetspot.com, an audio advertising company.

aasasd 5y ago

Yeah, I can see this improving my listening experience or whatever, absolutely. It will be totally rad, yo. I hope I can slap all the 300 V2 skins from my collection onto this, plus dsp_audiostocker—otherwise no deal, going to fb2k instead. I have a good (imo) tagline for this: > Apropos of nothing, the webservice

singingfish 5y ago

I like what Justin Frankel went on to do with Reaper. This site looks like someone bought a trademark to try to resurrect the name.

theandrewbailey 5y ago
That happened years ago. Not just the trademark, but everything like Shoutcast. https://techcrunch.com/2014/01/14/aol-sells-winamp-and-shoutcast-for-5-10m-to-radionomy-takes-12-stake-in-belgian-digital-audio-company/ https://techcrunch.com/2014/01/14/aol-sells-winamp-and-shout...

shultays 5y ago

The page freezes my browser (firefox) for a few seconds

black_puppydog 5y ago

While the landing page is a good example of how terrible the web is nowadays, the forums are great! Such a refreshing modern^Wsober take on UI: http://forums.winamp.com http://forums.winamp.com

accrual 5y ago
Good old vBulletin. Iconic forum software. Full of holes, but we love it anyways.

accrual 5y ago

> Solo performer, band or label? Register now for updates on the new Winamp, and how to release your music to a brand new audience. So it's a platform like Spotify and Apple Music now, not a media player. As someone who grew up with Winamp on my secondhand Pentium II laptop in the 90's, I don't care. This doesn't appeal to me. The original Winamp died a long time ago. Winamp, as it's intended to be, lives on in the WACUP project. It's compiled for modern systems and is just as configurable, if not moreso, than the original Winamp. This is what I use for my local needs and I'm completely satisfied with it. I run it on a 4K display in double (2x) scale mode and a modified classic theme. It's perfect. :) https://getwacup.com/ https://getwacup.com/

Dextro 5y ago
Shout out for WACUP. Just found out about it recently and was pleasantly surprised to see Doctor.O was behind it. Now there's a name I still remember from the old winamp forums. He was a developer for Winamp until the end of the AOL days.

arketyp 5y ago

I'm conditioned on Winamp classic skin for my oldschool mp3 listening the way I suppose audiophiles want the ritual of dropping the arm on the LP. Since as early as I can remember I have downloaded some obsolete version of Winamp due to bloat and desperate re-branding/re-appropriation. A re-imagined Winamp is a paradox, but then again it was more or less always abandonware.

nonameking2026 5y ago

I'll post this here as well. https://web.archive.org/web/0/https://www.winamp.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/0/https://www.winamp.com/

steveharman 5y ago

Viewing the winamp.com site in my HN client (Materialistic, Android 10) causes the app to freeze with the only available option to quit & relaunch.

aliswe 5y ago

Grinds my 12 (logical) core, 32GB RAM dell XPS to a halt unfortunately

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squarefoot 5y ago

Brings the CPU load to 20%+ to do absolutely nothing. If that page says something about the product, it will be a huge failure.

squarefoot 5y ago

Winamp nostalgics might want to try Qmmp, which inherited the old Winamp spirit (small, fast, bloat-less). Runs on Linux, BSD, Haiku, Windows, and possibly MacOS as well. https://qmmp.ylsoftware.com/ https://qmmp.ylsoftware.com/

mickotron 5y ago

Yes yes yes, swanky new website. But does it whip the Llama's ass?

diimdeep 5y ago

Is there a decent offline player for macOS ? Vox isn't anymore, with basic paid features and cloud bloat. Opus support is crucial. update: Just found this, written in Swift with skins support, neat :) https://www.producthunt.com/posts/re-amp https://www.producthunt.com/posts/re-amp + https://skins.webamp.org https://skins.webamp.org

argonium 5y ago
I use Vox but without any cloud or premium features. It's free and works well enough on my Mac. https://vox.rocks/mac-music-player https://vox.rocks/mac-music-player
- diimdeep 5y ago
  Yes it was great, and still … I use Vox 2.7.7, but not sure how long it will last with macOS moving forward. It was last version without requirement to login in cloud and pay subscription to use features as simple as equalizer. But even with this version, I had to `chmod -x /Applications/VOX.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/*` to stop background crap.

XCSme 5y ago

The landing page doesn't load for me, it's just a dark blue background. LE: It finished loaded after about 2 minutes.

schappim 5y ago

I’m disappointed there are no mention of llamas and whipping… In all seriousness though, Winamp took their slogan "It really whips the llama's ass!" from a song by an infamous, schizophrenic outsider-musician and visual artist named Wesley Willis[1]. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Willis https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Willis

cr3ative 5y ago
Scroll to bottom right. Click llama.
- schappim 5y ago
  Thank you sir!
- Tempest1981 5y ago
  Any tricks to make it scroll? I'm stuck on the page of artists.

izhak 5y ago

It Really Whips the Llama's Ass!

theandrewbailey 5y ago
This webpage totally doesn't whip any ass. It's just ass.

varispeed 5y ago

Oh no, hopefully it will not be another privacy violating CPU hog. Why can't they just maintain the original Winamp? Making sure it's up to date, maybe improve the quality of equaliser etc. I really don't want to "connect with the artist" nor I want artists to shove their content into my playlist. I also don't want any cloud garbage - I want to play files from my media only, without any tracking. It seems to me what this will end up with is fake artists creating content optimised for conversions rather than art coming from their soul.

blunte 5y ago

I miss the assortment of mesmerizing visualizations from the early days of Winamp. The succesor apps never seemed to offer the same quality of visualizations, and then that whole concept seems to have faded away.

willis936 5y ago
Milkdrop was closed source. You might be happy with ProjectM. https://github.com/projectM-visualizer/projectM https://github.com/projectM-visualizer/projectM
- garaetjjte 5y ago
  Milkdrop was open sourced too http://www.geisswerks.com/milkdrop/ http://www.geisswerks.com/milkdrop/
instagraham 5y ago
Milkdrop!!! For so many years, I remember wishing I could learn how to make these visualisations (usually whilst absolutely hammered). Never acted on the impulse.
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nbzso 5y ago

I expect some SaaS with ads on top from this Winamp reincarnation. Someone will try to "Spotify" the brand, UX and the player. And by the way, I hate to be "that" guy but this landing page is horrific. Starting with the sign/branding and ending with "colorful animated excitement" that is trying to kill my web-browser.

JohnWhigham 5y ago
I'm willing to bet it will be an Electron application...

mdp2021 5y ago

Does anyone know if there exist players on Linux on which one can code visualizations (i.e. visual effects following the sound), as we could do on Winamp? (Of course, it would be even better if we could use the same syntax - and reuse those of Winamp...) -- Edit: I see that there exist a "ProjectM", reimplementation of MilkDrop (Ryan Geiss 2001, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MilkDrop https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MilkDrop). The scripts ("presets") are as expected open and are ".milk" text files to be placed in a directory (/usr/share/projectM/presets). Large backward compatibility with the original scripts exist. I see at least a collection is found on archive.org ; another is at mywinamp.com ... I see the github repository also links to big collections ( https://github.com/projectM-visualizer/projectM https://github.com/projectM-visualizer/projectM ). ProjectM does not need a player: it listens to the played audio for the beat etc. But I understand it is also embedded in Kodi, Helix, Silverjuke and Silent Radiance Distance Disco. ... It seems also VLC uses it (not on all platforms, they write).

marcodiego 5y ago

This site is a good example of what a site should not be. It is the antithesis of what winamp was.

episode0x01 5y ago
Yeah you weren't kidding. "Heavy", to say the least
- willcipriano 5y ago
  This site probably requires more resources then the original Winamp required.
  - Cthulhu_ 5y ago
    Probably? The original Winamp ran on hardware much slower than anything you can buy new these days. This website, not a chance.
    - robotmay 5y ago
      This website doesn't even run smoothly on my overpowered gaming desktop. Back in 2000 I'd have never thought we'd be at the point where I can run games in 4K happily but not scroll through a website without it lagging up.
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
    Dude, this site almost certainly requires orders of magnitude more resources than Win95 + Winamp.
notyourwork 5y ago
It reminds me of Apple product pages where the scroll is hijacked.
ChuckNorris89 5y ago
I was also caught off guard by this horror. I was expecting a really lean and to the point website that reflects the qualities of the original Winamp. This really DOESN'T whip the llamma's ass. Here's the original website in 1998 for reference. https://web.archive.org/web/19981205015145/http://winamp.com/ https://web.archive.org/web/19981205015145/http://winamp.com... The more I look at it, the more I hate the modern web. It's madness.

floor_ 5y ago

The site locked my browser up. Big yikes.

dpeck 5y ago

This no longer whips the llamas ass.

ryanmercer 5y ago

Oof, that made my browser temporarily unresponsive - I haven't had that happen in years.

johnwheeler 5y ago

Something needs to be done about these cookie dialogs the EU imposes on the rest of the world. What a stupid rule.

dijit 5y ago
That is malicious compliance on the part of the offending site. The intention was to get consent so that people cannot track you without consent. Instead: Everyone puts up cookie dialogs instead of getting rid of cookies. You hate the EU for this, but you should be asking why this site needs to have cookies.
- johnwheeler 5y ago
  I don’t hate the EU for this. How did you extrapolate that? Also, when something has unintended consequences, the responsible party should own up to it—not throw their hands in the air and call everyone else stupid. What a ridiculous mentality to have.
  - dijit 5y ago
    >when something has unintended consequences, the responsible party should own up to it That's exactly what happened. You really should read up about things you seem to have strong feelings about. The EU declared the "EU Cookie Rule" (the ePrivacy Directive) a failure, due to malicious compliance, and was one of the reasons the GDPR became a thing. Ad companies really shot themselves in the foot there.[0][1] > Something needs to be done about these cookie dialogs the EU imposes on the rest of the world. What a stupid rule. This puts the blame on the EU, not on the Ad companies doing this, which is where I 'extrapolated' from; there's not another intepretation of this phrase that I'm aware of. [0]: This is where they say the ePrivacy directive has failed: https://edps.europa.eu/data-protection/our-work/publications/court-cases/edps-pleading-hearing-court-justice-cases-c-62317_en https://edps.europa.eu/data-protection/our-work/publications... [1]: This is where they detail exactly why the ePrivacy rules needed to be expanded: https://gdpr.eu/cookies/ https://gdpr.eu/cookies/
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InsomniacL 5y ago

hopefully not an indication of what Winamp is to become.

mattowen_uk 5y ago

A less hostile [article] link: https://www.extremetech.com/computing/329258-winamp-prepares-to-relaunch-can-it-still-whip-the-llama-in-2021 https://www.extremetech.com/computing/329258-winamp-prepares... And: According to AudioValley, which is the parent company of Winamp and Shoutcast, the new app is going to "become the one-stop platform for audio enthusiasts, which connects creators and consumers of music, podcasts, radio stations, audiobooks, and any other peripheral content." I have a bad feeling about this.

bambax 5y ago
What are "audio enthusiasts"?? People who have ears?
- jandrese 5y ago
  The way I understand it is regular people use their equipment to listen to music. Audio enthusiasts use the music to listen to their equipment.
  - bambax 5y ago
    Ha! Not what the website is trying to say, but yes, probably true in general ;-)
s_dev 5y ago
'One stop shop' is the polar opposite of 'do one thing really well'.
- PostThisTooFast 5y ago
  WinAmp never did anything well. That record looks set to continue.
- emodendroket 5y ago
  If you want a dedicated music player, there are options like fubar, but very few people want that anymore, so it's hard to see why anybody would waste their time and money on such a project.

fimdomeio 5y ago

I think both for me and for a lot of people the most relevant thing in the winamp brand is the historical ui which was amazing. If these guys can't deliver on that I'm not sure if there's any value in using the winamp brand. So whatever their plan is, I hope it's the opposite to this website.

ziml77 5y ago

My suspicions were raised seeing a site using the Winamp name. When it didn't display anything but the background for a few seconds on my overpowered desktop and internet connection, I was afraid it was trying to run an exploit of some sort. I closed the page before even seeing it. And while it seems that's not the case, I'm still suspicious of the project since it sounds like it's just going to be the same as any other modern music player, just riding on the Winamp nostalgia.

bloqs 5y ago

No exaggeration, this is one of the laggiest and most horrible sites that I have ever opened on my phone. It killed my Galaxy S20 dead

FpUser 5y ago

I have a mental problem with sites like this. I want to see what this is all about without endless and needless scrolling. Greeting users with delay and some lava lamp blobs is probably not the best way. But what do I know. I am down to business guy so others might have different idea.

JohnWhigham 5y ago

Seems like a good location to ask this: I've been on Winamp 5.x for a while, I'd like to move over to WACUP, but I really want to keep all my listening statistics. Is there an easy easy to export that database?

MrStonedOne 5y ago
wacup stores that info in appdata/roaming/wacup/plugins/ml winamp likely stories it in appdata/roaming/winamp/plugins/ml should be easy to just copy over the folder, should likely back it up before installing just to be safe. found this for more info on the media library database: https://github.com/neuralys/nde https://github.com/neuralys/nde

hericium 5y ago

With NoScript[1][2], the page works but it's a typical thin content, new age marketing gibberish with little value. There however are links to forums[3] and stable version download[4] and a nice picture of a llama[5]. [1] https://noscript.net/ https://noscript.net/ [2] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/noscript/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/noscript/ [3] http://forums.winamp.com/ http://forums.winamp.com/ [4] https://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/client/winamp58_3660_beta_full_en-us.exe https://download.nullsoft.com/winamp/client/winamp58_3660_be... [5] https://www.winamp.com/assets/img/lama.png https://www.winamp.com/assets/img/lama.png

trinsic2 5y ago
After I enabled scripts to allow the dynamic content to load, I was presented with a blank screen for about 10 seconds, I was thinking, "what a waste of time so far", but then it finally loaded some animated content that says nothing. Bad start in my humble opinion. Animated websites without real content are the bane of the Internetz existence.
JeremyNT 5y ago
Does it really work with noscript enabled, to any degree? I use uBlock origin in its "default deny" mode and the site does nothing beyond rendering a blue background. I'm reluctant to enable any scripts on this site based on others' reports.
- hericium 5y ago
  It's a WordPress not a full-blown app that won't render anything but an error without JavaScript. I've got NoScript to block all JS, including 1st party, by default. On this website the browser shows from top: - white marketing-ish text on blue background, stating something about "totally remastered" "next-generation" WinAMP, followed by pictures of "artists". - dark text on white background inviting to future (I presume) beta tests, links for "creators" who might want to release music on the future (I presume) platform and an invitation for "any type" of business partnerships - links straight to last stable .exe download, social media accounts, legal notice, privacy policy and other usual footer stuff Based on other comments, I presume that this is all there is to see apart from fireworks and increased electricity bill. The site has content like a typical startup site.

pkphilip 5y ago

That such a terrible website. All that is wrong with the new fangled web design

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ChrisArchitect 5y ago

I don't really care what's going on here with a relaunch and flashy/bloated site (Winamp 5.8 works fine/great), but the in the footer playing the classic "whips" sound is a nice touch.

khazhoux 5y ago

I may get accused of UI nostalgia, but I'm always shocked that the simple UX of winamp is not found on any modern media player (at least none I've found in 2021, on MacOS). I just want to: * Go to desktop and select one of more folders full of music. * Right-click -> Play, or drag into the player. Either add or replace to existing file set. * Select or de-select shuffle That's it. Why is this so hard??

rawrmaan 5y ago
Doesn't VLC do this?
- bryans 5y ago
  VLC is surprisingly terrible for audio. It struggles to read tags and almost never auto-sorts properly, it cuts off the end of tracks, there's no ability to play without gaps, etc.
  - Minor49er 5y ago
    I use VLC as my primary audio player. While I can't speak to the sorting and tagging issues, I can't say I've ever heard it cut off ends of tracks or play without gaps. Maybe those are related to your sound buffer settings
    - bryans 5y ago
      Gapless playback won't be available until VLC 4. Audio getting cut off at the end has been a known issue for 10 years, and will apparently be fixed in v4, as well. I realize that I could be running the nightly to fix the audio issue, but then I'm just trading for other existing v4 bugs -- and these fixes were only implemented very recently into the nightly, so for me at least, VLC has still been a very subpar audio player. https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc/-/issues/25181 https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc/-/issues/25181 https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc/-/issues/549 https://code.videolan.org/videolan/vlc/-/issues/549
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tristor 5y ago

This website is horrible even with uBlock Origin and NoScript. I am assuming the new Winamp will also be horrible. I think I'll stick to Foobar2k, which has been absolutely fantastic for decades.

k1ll3r 5y ago

What a trainwreck.

gosukiwi 5y ago

Man that page is heavy. It froze my browser for a few seconds, and my computer isn't even that bad.

arendtio 5y ago

Sounds like the Winamp 3.0 announcement and we all remember what a huge success it was ;-)

progman32 5y ago

Infinite reloading loop on my months old phone running up to date Firefox... With each reload taking about ten seconds on fast wifi.

nice_byte 5y ago

the design of this website does not instill confidence at all. it's like the polar opposite if what winamp used to be. luckily, old versions still function perfectly well with windows 10!

constantinum 5y ago

On Justin Frankel's website(the person who wrote the original Winamp) Some one actually had asked this question and his reply https://www.askjf.com/index.php?q=5935s https://www.askjf.com/index.php?q=5935s Question: Did you see the announcement about the winamp relaunch? Answer: Yeah. I regret not buying Winamp back when I had the chance; it wouldn't have been expensive and it was out of a sort of selfishness not doing it (not feeling like dealing with the stress of it). While the new owners appear to have the best intentions, sadly at this point it's pretty obvious that they don't have the right skills/process to do it right. IMO they're looking at it from a top-down perspective, rather than bottom-up. I'd love for them to prove me wrong. :/

y-c-o-m-b 5y ago

RIP my I5 CPU. This is perhaps the worst website I have ever visited and I am a developer that has seen many terrible sites. Is there a bitcoin mining script or something? Good lord, Firefox with uBlock origin couldn't even load it properly. This is the browser edition of covid

unbad505 5y ago

I hate this website, such bad UX.