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Google Workspace for everyone
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- xibalba 5y agoSo can I stop paying for my 1 user business account now?
- easton 5y agoThey seem cagey about whether or not the individual plan will have custom domains or support. That'd probably be the dealbreaker for everyone with single-user business accounts. (Unless you're like me and still have grandfathered unlimited storage).
- flatiron 5y agowhich tier are you that you still have unlimited? i was on the $10 tier (which went to $12) and then i got a nasty gram a while ago and upgraded to the $20 tier, i 100% only use my account for the unlimited storage.
- ericwooley 5y agoI just set it up to forward all emails to my Gmail account instead. Works great, and it's free.
- londons_explore 5y agoIs this the start of curtailing the free google suite of apps? Will google Docs suddenly be limited to documents no longer than 3 pages or 3 collaborators unless I pay for a subscription to "Google Workspace for Individuals"?
- sascha_sl 5y agoThe blog post seems to be aimed at individual businesses.
- srs_sput 5y agoAnyone want to start a betting pool for when Google Workspace is killed?
- easton 5y agoIt's a rename of GSuite, so a long time? They'd have to kill Gmail and Docs and like 50 other things first.
- Hamuko 5y agoThey can always kill the free tier like they did for Google Apps for Your Domain's free tier (to which I'm still grandfathered into).
- sofixa 5y ago> They can always kill the free tier like they did for Google Apps for Your Domain's free tier (to which I'm still grandfathered into). So they didn't kill it if they grandfathered everyone in? I'm also on a grandfathered free Google Apps, and i'm happy not having to pay for it.
- cbarrick 5y agoGoogle Workspace is just a rebrand of GSuite, right? It's unlikely to be killed off.
- gerbler 5y agoIt's also a paid service with many customers, so likely to last a long time.
- sascha_sl 5y agoUnlike all the other things Google kills, this one has an actual SLA and a ton of customers with enterprise agreements. Oh, and it's very interconnected with GCP.
- runnerup 5y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27497207 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27497207 'dang: > All: please don't post shallow, reflexive reactions to a story like this, even if you're sure you're right. Such reactions are 100% predictable (e.g. see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27497174 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27497174), and predictability hurts more than rightness helps [0]. Predictable discussions are tedious and invariably lead to worse—for example, tedious discussions turn nasty because that's the only thing the mind has left to amuse itself with [1].
- buggeryorkshire 5y agoIt would be nice if they provided a route to getting old GAFYD users over to a standard Google Account. I've still got old accounts with photos etc on that I cannot move, and the only reason I moved from GAFYD is because of so much functionality being missing. GAFYD https://lifehacker.com/what-does-google-apps-for-your-domain-actually-do-330318 https://lifehacker.com/what-does-google-apps-for-your-domain...
- shp0ngle 5y agoThe most annoying thing is that I got married and I now want to share my Google One account with my family ...and I cannot, unless they all have my domain. By the way, you can sort-of "move" your photos by adding them to shared album and "saving to local" on the other side. But then, if the original account is removed, the photos are still removed (AFAIK).
- AndrewDucker 5y agoI also can't have a YouTube Premium Family account, because they don't support Google Workspace accounts! I really do wish I hadn't moved my domain over to them - but my Google Calendar, email, and Google Play purchases are all in there.
- ValentineC 5y ago> ...and I cannot, unless they all have my domain. You can't use family sharing on a Google Apps/G Suite/Workspace account at all, whether they share your domain or not.
- shp0ngle 5y agoAh. I thought I could if I move them to my domain. But I guess I cannot.
- ValentineC 5y agoYeah, with the number of YouTube ads I've been seeing recently, I was considering a family subscription so that I could get better value for money, and share the joy. With this restriction on Workspace accounts, I decided to just forego a subscription altogether until they get their act together.
- JoshTriplett 5y agoThe "book a meeting" mechanism shown in the animation towards the end looks like an interesting competitor to Calendly and similar.
- dfcowell 5y agoI just want that to replace the ugly as hell, never-updated-since-day-1 meeting slots UX in Google Calendar.
- easton 5y agoAre they losing a lot of customers to Basecamp or something? This seems like the business model for a lot of their customers (small businesses/churches/etc that just need a space to put stuff where everyone knows where it is). Those places are probably paying for Google or Microsoft mail anyway though.
- Angostura 5y agoIt feels to me more like this is a response to Microsoft Teams - scrape together lots of existing products and try to reskin them under a new brand.
- foobarbazetc 5y agoBasecamp is like a rounding error in usage compared to G*. Probably more Microsoft or whatever.
- ampdepolymerase 5y agoSome PM just reinvented Google Wave.
- mcherm 5y agoNo they didn't. I wish they had.
- cpcallen 5y agoTo a first approximation, Google Chat is already Wave.
- circlesguy 5y agoSome PM just reinvented Circles https://circles.app/ https://circles.app/
- corndoge 5y agoIf you have a normal google account, once you sign up for workspace, if you decide to no longer subscribe, you can't get your original free account functionality back. No more gmail, calendar, keep, etc. Learned the hard way
- handrous 5y agoHahaha, makes me feel so much better about my own work when I see this kind of laziness out of the rich-as-hell giants. Dev: "OK, I finished the user story for migration from a free account to a paid account this sprint, but, again, there's a story for migration from a paid account to a free one and that'll involve compromises X and Y and there are a couple Hard Problems involved since usage may have exceeded free tier limits, and we physically migrate the account in ways that will be hard to undo since we cut corners to get this shipped, which will make it even harder. That's going to be a big chunk of work, and I think we'll need to break it up into smaller stories. Will we be going over that today?" PM: "Ummmmmmm... yeah..." presses big red button that throws an inconvenient story into the "on ice" bucket that may as well represent "deleted" "Putting that 'on ice', we'll definitely get to it... some day."
- runawaybottle 5y agoDon’t you dare mock my standup style.
- pylon 5y agoWait really? I thought my regular Google account is disconnected from a Google Workspace account? The email is just used for initial sign up. I'm really glad I didn't try signing up for it when I was trying to setup my custom domain to host mail.
- corndoge 5y agoI signed up using my free account while it was gsuite. Gsuite changed to Workspace, I stopped paying for Workspace and now I can't use my original free services, and I get a blurb explaining this is because I unsubscribed from Workspace. Possible I'm doing something wrong so I'd love to know what it is, but as far as I can tell, I can't get my free tier back.
- moocowtruck 5y agohow do i know i can trust to start using this without google killing like so many other things.. google today is so untrust worthy to me... especially after this photo storage thing.. just wow what a headache
- vtail 5y agoFor as long a I am a “wanna-be founder”, I used to be afraid of working on ideas that compete with (parts of) Google business. That feeling is no more. I use GSuite at work at a FAANG company, and Google slides with 50+ pages is so slow (multi-second pauses when changing slides) to be practically unusable. Finding documents in Google drive is hard to impossible, and good luck keeping track of comments or tasks assigned to you in multiple unrelated documents. I’m sure at some level consolidating their offerings is a right product move, but I don’t think Basecamp or Calendly should be particularly concerned.
- runawaybottle 5y agoIt makes you wonder if they really do have the best people working on stuff. Is this really the same team that made gmail/maps?
- vtail 5y agoPeople use to laugh at PMs (disclaimer: I’m a PM), but making right product decisions in a big Corp, with multiple parties to align with that had competing interests, is hard. I’m sure Google has high quality engineers working more or less on every product. It’s just the solution space of products with big surface area and many interdependencies is really large. When you are more steps removed from your customers, and can’t move fast (comparing to a small nibble team), finding the optimum becomes a very non-trivial exercise. Most successful products at big corps have laser-focused teams with highly influential leaders. Anything else results on mediocrity.
- derefr 5y agoWhy is it, then, that Google products with ~N users tend to be less good than equivalent open-source projects in the same verticals with ~N users, when those open-source projects mostly don’t even have access to effective product management?
- vtail 5y agoThat’s a good question, even if I disagree slightly about the premise, as random large open-source products targeting consumers (as opposed to infrastructure projects like Linux kernel) can dramatically vary in quality. My hypothesis: devs are much closer to users, as they are often users themselves, and have more freedom to work on fixing broken experiences, as opposed to just rolling new features.
- circlesguy 5y agoPrior art: https://circles.app/ https://circles.app/ Has chat, tasks, files just like Google, but also has shared notes, lists, links and so on.
- foobarbazetc 5y agoAnd before that: one million other PIM tools that have done the same things for decades.
- Brajeshwar 5y agoI like Google, but their product teams desperately need to talk to each other. I had been a 2TB Plan subscriber for quite a while. While trying to prune and free up some space, I realize it is practically impossible to do it any way that is easy and correct. It took me over two weeks of dedicated hourly time slots, a few automation, and many manual deletions to clean up everything. I also end up deleting essential documents that I should not have (I did have backups). I wrote down my frustration, the horrible experience deleting all the photos (some tips included that will help if you are planning to do so) - How to delete all Photos and get off Google Photos - https://brajeshwar.com/2021/how-to-delete-all-photos-and-get-off-google-photos/ https://brajeshwar.com/2021/how-to-delete-all-photos-and-get... I do have the grandfathered legacy Google Domains for Apps (may be about 10 or odd domains) and I pay for about 5 domains Google Workspaces. Teams find it easier to use Google Products (especially Gmail, and Calendar).
- room505 5y agoI had some old photos that I thought I removed and realized you have to go to https://picasaweb.google.com/ https://picasaweb.google.com/, which redirects me to https://get.google.com/albumarchive/ https://get.google.com/albumarchive/ so that I can delete them. There was no other way to find the photos.
- Brajeshwar 5y agoThanks. Now, I found a bunch of photos to delete from the Picasa days. :-)
- dvfjsdhgfv 5y agoFor Gmail, the only thing that works for me is the regular Google Takeout. POP3 takes months to download all messages, IMAP is... well, IMAP and not e-mail archiving protocol. Fortunately Takeout exists so that you can just download everything to a safe place and free some space.
- Tenoke 5y ago>While trying to prune and free up some space, I realize it is practically impossible to do it any way that is easy and correct. I do it by connecting drive to Google colab and using bash/python as if it's a normal filesystem but admittedly even then it can occasionally behave weird (especially with bigger files). However, you can at least add whatever retry and double checking logic you want.
- rohanstake 5y agoLooks good - but with Google products for everything, they have a tendency to kill products, it's risky. Maybe if the Workspace has some integrations options, it would be nice.
- Maksadbek 5y agoUse it while it is hot and not killed.
- markstos 5y agoThe announcement could be clearer. Groups could already sign up to pay for Google Workspace, that doesn't change. Individuals could also sign up for Google Workplace group account that only a single person would use or use a lot of features in their individual account. The announcement could be more straightforward about what's actually changing.
- kwanbix 5y agoI don't understand why did they integrate chat with email. For me they are two very different use cases. If not, I will be only using email (or chat). I really don't get it. I had to uninstall chat on my android phone as I was getting double notifications for all chat messages. Really stupid IMHO. Of course there is surely someone who loves the integration.
- subpixel 5y agoAs a paying customer, I built my entire family photo sharing and storage scheme on the longstanding ability to sync images between Google Drive and Google Photos. Google removed that functionality, borked my entire system, and lost all of my trust that they know (or care about) what their customers want.
- nelsonfavedra 5y ago"How long until they sunset this for something new?" is the first thing that comes to mind whenever one hears about something Goog did these days.
- brixon 5y agoThey will sunset it without something new to replace it.
- drcongo 5y agoI have absolutely no idea what this announcement is actually announcing. It takes seven paragraphs to actually get there, and then announces something that I'm 99% sure was already available. My wife doesn't have a work Google Workspace account, but she can still use docs etc. What's actually changed?
- nodesocket 5y agoI also don’t get it. I am a single user with Google G Suite (I guess called workspace) and pay $6 a month. What does this announcement mean?
- starkd 5y agoI was recently looking at it, but the only thing I can see it gets me is the ability to add a custom domain name to my emails.
- nodesocket 5y agoI already have a custom domain, that's why I pay the $6 a month for G Suite (previously).
- rishav_sharan 5y agoI may be completely wrong here but I think some of the stuff that you are paying for will now be moved to a free tier called Workspaces Individual.
- hairofadog 5y agoI've got you covered. I watched the video, and here's what you can now do with Google Workspace: * Be notified when packages are coming via "e mail" * Send your own "e mail" to other people * Organize events by date in a "calendar" * Write an episode of Stranger Things in a "document", or if you don't happen to own the Stranger Things franchise, write about your viewing experience * Write down a list of band names * Sum the number of times a given child poops in a day in a "spreadsheet" * Take part in a "meet", which is a sort of phone call but with video I hope that clears it up.
- pylon 5y agoSo I assume the things that are becoming free don't include using your own domain for mail? Will Google Workspace Individual include that? The TechCrunch article mentions it will be $9.99 with introductory price of $7.99 which is more expensive than current basic plan. I really just want custom domain hosting with Gmail and ignore everything else.
- berns 5y agoThat's the first thing I looked for. It has not changed. It's $ 6 / user / month.
- grouphugs 5y agokind of a bad time for this don't ya think?
- choppaface 5y agoGuh!! The image / video at the top seems to show Google Haircuts, Google Gym, and Google Cafeteria. I thought this announcement was that Google HR saw so many employees going remote that they were opening up the employee-only workspace facilities to everybody. Now I read this is just some dumb software. What a let-down.
- pbasista 5y agoMy first impression was similar. I thought that perhaps Google would publish their ideas of ergonomic, healthy, efficient and friendly workplace as some proposed standard that would be open to collaborations and continuous improvements. Apparently, I was wrong.
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- gregwebs 5y agoA link from this announcement goes here [1] where they show new collaboration features that moves Google Docs in the direction of coda.io to be able to better leverage structured data and tables. I have been loving coda.io. [1] https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/workspace/next-evolution-of-collaboration-for-google-workspace https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/workspace/next-evolut...
- deckard1 5y agoInteresting. I was just looking for a way to route my domain email to Gmail. I then went down the rabbit hole of G Suite and discovered G Suite grandfathered accounts from back when G Suite was free for anyone with a Gmail account, I guess? Somehow I missed that period of time. My GMail accounts predate G Suite but are not on any G Suite plan. In any case, I wasn't going to pay Google $72 a year just to get a trickle of email. I signed up for the Zoho free plan and I'm starting to wonder why I stuck with Gmail so long. It's making Gmail look like it's from 2004. Granted, the free plan you can only use their web app or mobile app. But it's like $12 to step up to a full plan with POP/IMAP I think.
- morpheuskafka 5y agoApple just announced that iCloud+ will include custom domain support later this year, wouldn't be suitable for teams but might be a nice choice for individuals.
- kart23 5y agoIt's already free, it just takes a couple extra steps to make it work. (one involves having your domain on google domains if thats a dealbreaker) Heres a link to a tutorial for it. https://medium.com/builduniversity/how-to-hook-up-a-custom-domain-email-to-your-free-gmail-account-ead660884d11 https://medium.com/builduniversity/how-to-hook-up-a-custom-d...
- jfrunyon 5y ago"Use Rooms in Google Chat as a central place to connect, create and collaborate with others. Over the summer, we’ll evolve Rooms to become Spaces and introduce a streamlined and flexible user interface that helps you stay on top of everything that’s important. Powered by new features like in-line topic threading, presence indicators, custom statuses, expressive reactions, and a collapsible view, Spaces will seamlessly integrate with your files and tasks" Cool. So when are we (admins - or heck even users!) going to be able to edit, or delete, or hide, or restrict access to, rooms/Spaces?
- snambi 5y agoI have no idea, what this is.
- davemtl 5y agoIs this just another Google product I'm going to invest a lot of time in, only to find out that one day they take it 'round back and put it down? [1] [1] https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/
- ceejayoz 5y agoNo, this is the other main scenario at Google; a product important enough to keep, but with regular name changes so it sounds new. Google Apps for Your Domain --> Google Apps --> Google Apps for Business --> Google Apps for Work --> G Suite --> Google Workplace Same thing happened to Hangouts/Chat/Meet.
- callalex 5y agoMany of the migrations you mentioned were not automatic or clean.
- axismundi 5y ago...and a few years later, once you have adopted it and moved your stuff into it, Google will bin it and move on to something new. No thanks, been there, done that: rss reader, wave, talk, hangouts - never again.
- ebr4him 5y agoMore importantly, Google Photos!!!!
- starik36 5y agoWhat? Is it going away? My understanding is they are just including lesser quality photos in the 15 GB limit.
- jerrygoyal 5y agoI'm not sure why someone mentioned Google Photos. Afaik it's not going away but actually has a paid tier now (after 15gb exemption). imo having a paid tier is a good indication that the product is bringing revenue so won't be killed like other free products by Google. Google photos is actually a good product anyway.
- akkartik 5y agoHard to justify a paid service from a company without customer support: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27339588 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27339588
- zmmmmm 5y agoyeah, this is the killer for me as ultimately "primary" storage for things like my photos is too important to entrust with company that thinks I am so unimportant they wont lift up the phone to help me if all my data went poof. And since that regularly happens (accounts getting disabled / locked due to random reasons) its not a theoretical. It means google is reduced for me to only being used for "casual" things as a primary store or secondary backup for other things - but those are specifically what I won't pay for (at least, not much) ...
- znpy 5y agoWhat even is Google Workspace? Is this the used-to-be google apps? is this g-suite? is this google for education stuff?
- Relatotuile 5y agoI can't seem to find the answer to one of the most important questions - Will this prevent users from using many Google features like GSuite currently does? I'd hate for people to fall into that same trap - You aren't able to use things like Nest to Google account migration, many Google Home features, family sharing, etc.
- Marveleouse 5y agoDo not use a Google Workspace account for personal use. Just get a Gmail account. There’s far too many restrictions and caveats that they’ve manufactured in the past few years (for no good reason). I’ve used Google Workspace since 2008, long before any of these restrictions existed and I wish it wasn’t a nightmare to migrate 12 years of context to a Gmail account. Google put me in lose-lose position. Don’t put yourself in one.
- geek_at 5y agoYou can use google checkout transfer to transfer everything from a workspace account to a gmail one https://takeout.google.com/transfer https://takeout.google.com/transfer
- twodayslate 5y ago> Transfer Your Content is only available to authorized G Suite for Education Accounts. Please contact your administrator, or sign in with another Google Account.
- judge2020 5y agoLooks like it's limited to transferring just the drive docs and emails as well [0], although you can just transfer out the entire org's data if you want[1]. I highly doubt this transfers user purchases and other ownerships tied to the account such as apps, media [movies/tv shows], etc. 0: https://support.google.com/a/answer/6364687 https://support.google.com/a/answer/6364687 1: https://admin.google.com/ac/customertakeout?pli=1 https://admin.google.com/ac/customertakeout?pli=1
- ceejayoz 5y agoAgreed. I've got email set up for my family via Google Workspace and we're not allowed to manage our Nest with them. All sorts of weird "oh you're a second-class citizen" spots in Google's systems.
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- headmelted 5y agoNot for UK users Which sucks, because thats the only way to get Google Voice, which we still dont have here outside of Workspace.
- exabrial 5y agoNot putting any eggs in this basket I got burned on Google Wave and I won't forget it ever, hah.
- xyst 5y agoI don’t need these “enterprise” features. I just need an e-mail. That being said, I do pay ~$5 per month (they charge PER user) for workspaces just for a hosted e-mail solution using my own domain (firstname@lastname.com). One of these days, I’m going to self host it. Just need to figure out what’s the best way so my e-mails don’t get bounced back or get flagged as spam
- Skunkleton 5y agoIn my experience self hosting email is more pain than it is worth. I switched to fastmail and am very happy. Don’t let anyone dissuade you from giving it a try if you are interested though.
- mastazi 5y agoIf you are a tech-oriented person (which I assume is the case as you're a HN reader) you can set up Mailinabox without much hassle. It does everything for you including the "e-mails don’t get bounced back or get flagged as spam" part. https://mailinabox.email/ https://mailinabox.email/
- xyst 5y agoThis is interesting. Even has e-mail “aliases” out of the box. Thanks!
- renewiltord 5y agoIn all genuineness, I have no clue what they're doing. I won't touch this shit with my personal Gmail account because I just know it has some one-way door built-in. Something like "You signed up for Workspace and now you can't use your Google Home! Hurray! Oh, you want to downgrade? Okay, you lost all your email! Hurray!" I'm just glad I make enough money that I can keep my GSuite and my personal separate. The one mistake I made is paying for this Google One shit which I don't know what it is but I'm too afraid to let it go in case they delete all my photos and email. Literally the most half-assed platform of all time. But the features are so good I'm pretty sure I'm paying three times for them and not upset. It's the risk of losing the data that scares me.
- personjerry 5y agoWhat the hell does this announcement actually say? Is this just Gsuite? Are they introducing a lower price tier? What is the pricing? How do existing customers transition? The rebranding from "Google hangouts" and "Gsuite" to "Google Workspace" and everything inbetween I have to say has been a tremendously terrible marketing job, given the talent of the people at that company.
- sporkland 5y agoI was hoping it was a bundling of apps/data/content along more task/project/team/org lines as opposed to the very user-centric organizational structure. Sadly for me, it seems like a re-brand like you said. It also seems like they may be planning on evolving the communication suites Email, Chat, Video Chat, to be a more integrated experience a la Microsoft Teams or Front?
- ethbr0 5y agoFor all those times when you look at another product and say "Gee, I wish it were more like Microsoft Teams."
- derefr 5y agoJudging mostly by the presented visual evidence rather than the PR-speak, I believe it says they're merging Gmail, Google Docs, and Google Hangouts into a single tightly-integrated SPA with a top-level Slack-like groupware layer to navigate it all. Insofar as a "Google Workspace" is a thing like a "Slack team" or a "Discord server", it'll probably also be internally modelled as a GSuite org. Again presumably, the GSuite Admin Dashboard would thus likely be integrated into the SPA as well (i.e. this SPA would now "be" GSuite) — but for the people only paying for a Google Workspace, not a GSuite org, they'd probably see a version of the GSuite Admin dashboard where most of the more complex functionality related to domains / group policy / etc. is hidden, with the stripped-down version matching something more akin to a Slack team's admin panel: user management, group management, storage management, and app/integration management.
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- erik_p 5y agoThis makes me miss Google Wave... Are they iframing in spreadsheets with a slack clone?
- mastazi 5y agoAs a privacy conscious user, I hope one day there will be a "Premium" Google account for individuals, where you pay in exchange for not being tracked and not being shown ads. I wonder if this announcement is Google going into that direction. I'm sure Google knows that for many, perception of privacy issues has changed drastically in recent years. At the moment, they still have dis-joined paid offerings, for example Youtube Premium, Google Play Pass, Google Workspace, etc. - with many Google products, such as Android or GMaps, there is still no way to pay your way out of tracking/ads (at least that I know of). Instead, there should be a single paid subscription, for all Google services. I left Google a while ago[1] but if the "privacy subscription" offering became a thing, I would be back in no time. [1] My main Google account was deleted and replaced with a combination of Mailinabox, Nextcloud, Duckduckgo etc. - but I have an alt account only for Youtube, linked to my wife's Youtube Premium Family plan.
- Andrex 5y agoGoogle tried this with Google Contributor: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8637365 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8637365 (2014) https://contributor.google.com/v/beta https://contributor.google.com/v/beta But it was never very publicized and I'm not sure how well it worked. It seems you can't sign up as a user anymore but they're still fielding individual publishers? I would assume it just wasn't very popular, but feelings on programmatic ads have shifted and it's definitely worth trying again IMO. Ideally Google One would bundle all this (YT Premium, Play Pass, etc.) for the users who want that, but offering them separately might make more sense for many users.
- beders 5y agoLet's take bets on re-re-branding and or end-of-life date!
- cloudking 5y agoGoogle Workspace was formerly known as G Suite, which was formerly known as Google Apps. It's the business version of Google products that includes additional functionality that consumer accounts don't have. https://support.google.com/a/answer/6043385?hl=en https://support.google.com/a/answer/6043385?hl=en I shall attempt to explain what this announcement actually means, since it doesn't do a great job: 1) "Starting today, all of Google Workspace is available to anyone with a Google account" there are a lot of individual business owners that have signed up for free Gmail accounts and use them to run their business, now they can pay a subscription fee to upgrade those accounts to include Workspace functionality (like Google Chat rooms, Meet recordings, Calendar appointments, ML assisted writing, device management and other business features). 2) Google Chat (their competitor to Slack) and Docs suite are getting more deeply integrated in Gmail. Enabling the ability to bring in Docs/Sheets/Slides inline with a Chat "room" for collaboration without leaving Gmail. This will only be available for Workspace users (business, enterprise, education or the new individual plan).
- judge2020 5y agoI'd like to point out that 'all of Google Workspace' leaves out 'minus creating shared drives' - shared drives don't count against account storage whatsoever and would probably require a large rework to become compatible with regular G accounts. Even Google Workspace for Nonprofits, which enforces a 30GB/user limit, gives accounts the ability to set up shared drives with no per-user storage limit or limit across the org.
- ehsankia 5y agoSo for people who pay 5$/user/month for having Gmail on their own domain (which is really the main use a lot of individuals have for Gsuite), this is no-op?
- cloudking 5y agoI believe if you're using Gmail on your own domain and paying, you're already using Workspace. I think the new individual plan is aimed at the folks with consumer @gmail.com accounts, using them for business purposes and want to upgrade.
- ChuckMcM 5y agoSo awesome, Lucy is teeing up the football once again[1]. For me this is a classic case of a great idea that for the life of me I would never decide to depend on because Google has so thoroughly trashed their own reputation for supporting something that it would literally be more hassle to recover from their inevitable sun-setting of the project after I had invested in it, or done the ransom thing where "now I need to be on a 'pro' plan to use that for only $x/month." [1] https://marcellusdrilling.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/lucy-football-charlie-brown.jpg https://marcellusdrilling.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/luc...
- winrid 5y agoThe example use case, "planning a family reuinion", is hilarious to me as I have a few different sides to my family - and none of the people that actually plan reunions even use Gmail. Also, love ya grandma... :)
- myoffe 5y agoI'm having a hard time taking anything new from Google seriously. In 2 years they might just sunset both of these for yet another iteration of a work collaboration and messaging app.
- cwkoss 5y agoHow many "chat" app brands has google had at this point? I can think of Hangouts, Gchat, Messages, Duo, Wave. Now Workspace. How many years until the next one? I'm guessing 1.25.
- smt88 5y agoI count seven, and I believe 5 of them were operating simultaneously at one point. There was a surprisingly long period of time when Hangouts and Hangouts Chat, two totally separate products, were running in parallel with those confusing names. Here's my list: - Talk - Hangouts - Hangouts Chat (now called Chat) - Allo - Messages - Voice - Google+ You could arguably throw Groups, Inbox, Wave, and Gmail in there, as well, I guess. I don't know if the product/branding people at Google need to be fired or to be taken seriously for the first time in the company's history, but I wish one of the two would happen.
- detay 5y agoprobably be abandoned before 2023.
- mkr-hn 5y agoCuil wasn't the promised Google killer, but Google's product strategy sure does resemble Cuil Theory these days.
- xedeon 5y agoAnyone wants to take a guess ion how long before this product will be canned?
- oogve 5y agoI for one look forward to better support for the business products. Have had a pretty abysmal experience working with them.