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>The court order targets a total of 57 domain names, including various mirror sites. The academic publishers had asked the court for a more flexible blocklist,
by drewmol 8y ago
>The court order targets a total of 57 domain names, including various mirror sites. The academic publishers had asked the court for a more flexible blocklist, which they could update whenever new domains would become available, but this was denied. If the publishers want to expand the blocklist, they will have to go back to court. This ensures that there remains judicial oversight over local website blockades. Also, a request for a specific IP-address block was denied.
So a DNS level block... This should help to educate some French users on what a DNS is, and steer some of them away from using their ISP provided DNS servers.
- giomasce 8y agoOr to use Tor, or to use the Telegram bot...
- theshrike79 8y agoGood luck trying to make Cloudflare (1.1.1.1), Google (8.8.8.8) or Quad9 (9.9.9.9) to make exceptions for a single geographical area. =)
- flukus 8y agoThose are mirrored around the world and likely physically inside France. You don't want trans-Atlantic latency on your DNS lookups.
- a_imho 8y agoI'm not sure whether you are being sarcastic. Don't you think they would cooperate just fine if it would make business sense for them?
- Kuinox 8y agoThey don't have to cooperate. As in the title, only the ISP DNS enforce this.
- jjeaff 8y agoI suppose the gov could ip block 1.1.1.1 and 8.8.8.8 just as easily.
- aorth 8y agoIs "too big to block" a thing yet? Services like Signal were certainly relying on this via their domain fronting technique.
- Shivetya 8y agothey certainly are not too big to fine. that would be the end result, put the onus on the DNS providers. who needs to China to disrupt the net when the West is just fine doing it on its own.
- rat9988 8y ago
- ndnxhs 8y agoIts always DNS first and everyone says "lol, just change your DNS" and then they start doing real blocks. Optus in Australia did an IP level block of 4chan recently.
- edwinyzh 8y agoSorry if this sounds stupid, but I don't know much about 4chan - why block 4chan?
- Causality1 8y agoNew Zealand and Australia recently went on a "do something" tear regarding the mosque shooting. Sites where the video or manifesto was posted got blocked, including 4chan. And yes, you read that right, New Zealand made it a crime to distribute a specific piece of text data.
- ShorsHammer 8y agoWhich if you read that "specific piece of text data" is the outcome the murderer wanted. They responded exactly how he desired.
- zapzupnz 8y agoThe "this is what they wanted" argument is always something that rings alarm bells in my head; it sounds like the "it's a slippery slope" wolf in sheep's clothing.
- collyw 8y agoYou hear it a lot, but in this case he pretty much outlined it in his manifesto.
- lumberjack 8y agoWhy are you taking his word at face value? What he really wants is to spread his propaganda. He is just trying to use reverse psychology to make you do just that.
- viraptor 8y ago> The court sided with the ISPs, who argued that they should have the freedom to choose their own blocking method, including DNS blocking That sounds like DPI and rewriting upstream DNS responses is not excluded though. If that gets implemented, it doesn't matter which server you choose.
- Vinnl 8y agoI wonder if they'd also block, say, Wikipedia for linking to working IP addresses, or sites like https://whereisscihub.now.sh/go https://whereisscihub.now.sh/go that automatically redirect you to them.
- adrianN 8y agoIn Germany, linking to illegal content is also illegal (IANAL), so they could sue Wikipedia or whereisscihub.now.
- jessriedel 8y agoDoes the link have to be directly to the illegal content, or just to a domain that supplies illegal content somewhere on the domain? The SciHub homepage is not itself illegal content.
- adrianN 8y agoThe topic is so murky that I don't think anybody can tell with any certainty. The German Wikipedia has an article that discusses the issue a bit https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zul%C3%A4ssigkeit_von_und_Haftung_f%C3%BCr_Hyperlinks https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zul%C3%A4ssigkeit_von_und_Haft...
- JPLeRouzic 8y agoDNS is hard coded on my Orange Livebox. This is new. And changing the DNS under my Ubuntu box was far from trivial. It is only possible to change the secondary DNS in the connection UI. I had to use a reduced version of DHCP (IP address only) and change /etc/resolv.conf.
- jimktrains2 8y agoBe careful with resolv.conf. network manager and others like to overwrite it.