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Show HN: Websites in 2018

595 points by bloomca 8y ago

dzwillia 8y ago
Don't forget the JS library that senses your mouse position so that when you move your mouse up to the tab bar, it opens a final "Wait, don't go! Here's a free e-book, etc." modal on the page.
- gitgud 8y ago
  I've never seen that, do you have an example link you could share?
  - hjek 8y ago
    Here's an example (that you can add to your own Wordpress, too!): https://www.brontobytes.com/blog/exit-popup-free-wordpress-plugin/ https://www.brontobytes.com/blog/exit-popup-free-wordpress-p... For more real-life examples, just try searching for some cake recipes. Cooking web sites all have this.
trulyrandom 8y ago
I don't get it. I click "Start" and then "no" when asked to allow notifications. After that I get a blank page.
nicoburns 8y ago
Oh god. This is so accurate. I think the GDPR is overall a good thing, but I wish they'd encoded respecting browser sent preferences into law, rather than requiring a user-visible prompt everywhere.
- hadrien01 8y ago
  The modal could be made easy to dismiss with a simple No button, it's publishers that don't make things easy for users.
  - ljm 8y ago
    I think some of it might also be a function (or consequence) of the CMS being used for the site. You can either figure out a redesign that elegantly solves the problem (as NPR have done, offering a purely plain text version of their site), which might not be so easy depending on the tech; or you can treat the entire thing as pluggable and just add every new feature as a drop-in modal. Hell, if you've got a marketing team dependent on stuff like Google Tag Manager, then have them throw it in there. Job done. Not great for the users.
  - IshKebab 8y ago
    Yes of course they don't want to - that's why he's saying they should be forced to do it by law.
- sc11 8y ago
  The proposal for the ePrivacy regulation (not the same as the old ePrivacy directive) is supposed to do that but unfortunately there hasn't been much movement on it in the last year. Can find a short overview of it here: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2018/08/beyond-the-gdpr-here-comes-the-eus-e-privacy-regulation-but-not-yet/ https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2018/08/beyond-th...
- lozenge 8y ago
  It's insane how P3P from 2002 was more advanced than anything the EU can come up with now.
  - Hamuko 8y ago
    You mean the standard that never caught on and now lives on as a piece of Internet history? Yeah, super advanced shit, let's have that again.
  - icebraining 8y ago
    The EU didn't come up with any protocols, advanced or not. The GDPR is not even specific to the internet, let alone specific ways of getting consent. It's up to the industry if they want to use fancy protocols to do so.
    - lozenge 8y ago
      Nobody has confidence that an explicit "I don't care about cookies" setting would satisfy GDPR.
  - xg15 8y ago
    My guess is, even if there were some elegant, widely-supported standard for machine-readable privacy policies and even if browsers had some dedicated built-in API for privacy consents with some really polished and frictionless UI, you'd probably still be bombarded with popups begging you to click the "consent" buttons on that UI. The problem is that it's not a technical problem, but a political. No matter how technically elegant your spec, it doesn't change anything about the underlying conflict of interest: Website operators want to collect personal data and show ads, while users want to keep personal data to themselves and don't want to see ads. So trying to solve this via any kind of web standard is asking the website operators to act against their own interests. If you have no enforcement or incentive, you will end up with a standard that is either toothless (P3P, DNT with opt-in) or simply ignored (DNT with opt-out). GDPR (and the cookie law before) do have enforcement, which is why web sites can't ignore them - instead they fight back with a barrage of popups.
- Meekro 8y ago
  Europe should do this for their cookie law, too. Instead of every website having its own UI for it, we should force browsers to give the user some reasonable options like "accept all cookies", "reject all cookies", and "ask me every time" .. oh wait.
  - falcolas 8y ago
    So, a prompt which changes your client side settings for that site? Perhaps driven either by an API or an automatic action prompted by the browser? Yes, please. As it stands today, it's too much work to set site-specific cookie privileges.
  - paxy 8y ago
    So, being able to globally allow or disallow cookies, which every browser does already?
- oneeyedpigeon 8y ago
  What I don't understand is, why are there so many sites that don't remember my previous GDPR response?
  - corobo 8y ago
    Why remember when you can ask again and maybe score an agreement? Naturally, you remember the agreement Honestly though I think it's sites being dumb and storing the choice in a session cookie or something because you've not agreed to storing cookies
    - Aeolun 8y ago
      Oh! That’s malicious compliance of the best kind.
    - oneeyedpigeon 8y ago
      I actually meant after I have agreed - it's even more annoying that way round!
  - fandango 8y ago
    Please read the excellent comment of xg15 elsewhere in this thread. It basically suggests that publishers deliberately make the user experience as annoying as possible, as a way of protesting against the cookie and GDPR laws.
lintroller 8y ago
I was exposed to this idea a few days ago via this tweet: https://twitter.com/burgervege/status/1053557632265527296 https://twitter.com/burgervege/status/1053557632265527296 I enjoy the result of releasing this experience into the wild.
dang 8y ago
Url changed from https://github.com/Bloomca/website-in-2018 https://github.com/Bloomca/website-in-2018, which points to this, which makes the point rather more effectively.
lousken 8y ago
ads blocked -> mine monero instead, also missing autoplaying video as a background, scrolljacking and some weird bug in non-chromium based browser
- brlewis 8y ago
  Scrolljacking is so 2016.
  - beaconstudios 8y ago
    so the 2018 version would be the page being a fancy animation that you play by scrolling, right?
superasn 8y ago
I thought it was a list of some unqiue interesting websites in 2018 and robotically started dismissing these things until i started getting a little furious when it hit me. Good work, it definitely fooled me.
- erikig 8y ago
  How far did you get until you got it? It took me until just after the email subscription modal...sighs
  - xg15 8y ago
    I think the fake "do you want notifications?" notification kind of gave it away for me.
    - Kwpolska 8y ago
      I’ve seen sites with those being fake. If you say “no” to the browser prompt, the website can’t ask again. But if you make a fake prompt, you can repeat it any time you like. (Agreeing becomes a two-step process. Who the hell wants notifications from 99% of websites though?!)
  - l0b0 8y ago
    Immediately, but only because most web sites think it's OK to show all of these things at once, making it a good 2 second task to work out which parts of the page is the content (if any).
  - superasn 8y ago
    All the way until the AdBlock page :/
palehose 8y ago
"Translate this page" is missing.
- Retr0spectrum 8y ago
  Isn't that a chrome feature? I've never seen a website give me that directly.
jchmbrln 8y ago
Good grief. I didn't last more than 6 clicks or so. This is in the "so real it hurts" category. The only thing you've got wrong is page load time and overall responsiveness. This needs at least a couple more MB of JS. Good work.
- gerry_shaw 8y ago
  Agree, it definitely loads too fast to be a site 2018. \s
- i_cant_speel 8y ago
  It took me more clicks than I care to admit to realize that the awfulness was the point of the site. When I first got there, I was thinking, "How did such an awful site get to the front page of HN?"
artursapek 8y ago
Making everyone implement a cookies popup is the most idiotic internet-related piece of legislation I've ever seen.
- Kiro 8y ago
  Yeah, the problem is that it completely overshadows all the benefits of GDPR since most people just associates it with annoying cookie popups.
patatino 8y ago
Too real! The chat popup is missing? Or I couldn‘t find it
optimusclimb 8y ago
Since pretty much every engineer under the sun knows this experience sucks, how can we attribute this to anything other than the rise of MBAs running the show?
- LiterallyDoge 8y ago
  So true. Art majors too. And psych. And anyone with a sense of craftsmanship. And children and cats.
- lozenge 8y ago
  The lawyers are running the asylum.
- superhuzza 8y ago
  Let's run through it: 1. Do you want to receive notifications: Business or marketing request 2. Your privacy/cookie warning: Likely legal requirement. 3. Age requirement: I'll assume it's an 18+ site, so requested by legal dept. 4. Subscribe to our newsletter: Marketing request 5. Disable adblock: Business request 6. Donate: Business request. 7. Did you find what you were looking for: UX request 8. Something went wrong: Engineering
  - SAI_Peregrinus 8y ago
    2. For the vast majority of sites, this is a Business request, since the cookies aren't necessary for operation. They're just for tracking. A login cookie being set would trigger the legal requirement, but a user with no account shouldn't even see the box.
    - VonGallifrey 8y ago
      > A login cookie being set would trigger the legal requirement, Are you talking about the EU privacy and data protection directives? Because they have an exception for Authentication, Session and Security Cookies as well as several other types of cookies which are necessary for the function of the site. A user that is logged in should not need to see this either.
sharjeel 8y ago
Where are the auto playing video ads at full blast?
ju-st 8y ago
A "Will you help improve the website?" survey popup is missing too.
christophilus 8y ago
I found a few bugs: It only has one JS file, and that isn't even 3KB. Needs to be at least 3MB. uBlock only blocks 2 items, not 30. It doesn't have infinite scroll, a sticky header, a fake chat window that pops up and says, "Shana from support is here to answer any questions"... Oh, and the back button still works.
- tekknolagi 8y ago
  I guess he could pad the JS file with some random nonsense...
  - Sileni 8y ago
    Nah, just use a js file from a different "free template!" for every function on the page. Added benefit of stressing the templating engine depending on the back end.
- ljm 8y ago
  I bet it isn't even deployed on a high availability Kubernetes cluster.
- jchmbrln 8y ago
  True. And honestly, when I open the console log I expect it to be all red.
  - wingworks 8y ago
    When it's all red you know it's a good website.
    - exikyut 8y ago
      Or that your /etc/hosts file is still in good condition.
- diiiimaaaa 8y ago
  It also misses 3 web fonts with 4 weight variations each.
netcan 8y ago
The depressing part is that this is an understatement. - please turn off ad blocking - GDPR: Consent to all these things: y/n (N) - --scroll - -- choose from 6 confusing choices - -- back - -- try again - --
- thibautg 8y ago
  With checkboxes looking like [X] (is it checked or not??), confusing on/off switches, very big ‘Allow all’ button, fake delay to opt out from tracking, a message telling you that you can’t be sure to be opted out if you do not allow 3rd party cookies, very very long list of 3rd parties to switch off one by one (unless you find the confusing optional ‘disable all’ switch) etc. etc. It’s a concentrate of dark patterns.
drenvuk 8y ago
I love this. There's not enough loading going on though. Everything was too snappy.
sov 8y ago
Almost perfect, actually needs the following: Needs to be material UI but poorly implemented so it's really slow. Needs a "do you have time for a short usability survey?"--bonus points for stacking it on top of the cookie notification. The "got it" button on donate/adblock needs to shame the user more. There needs to be an on-hover action for some of the buttons that causes an alert to push the about-to-be-clicked button down so the user accidentally navigates away, then, when they navigate back, have to re-do the process.
usaphp 8y ago
One that I "like" the most is the "We'd welcome your feedback" popup that appears the moment I open a website...like how am I suppose to give you any positive feedback if you are preventing me from using your damn website in the first place!
crazygringo 8y ago
Related reddit thread from 2 days ago, on the video that inspired it: https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/9q22c2/every_website_in_2018/ https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/9q22c2/every_website...
hn17 8y ago
Sad, but true. Time to change.
brink 8y ago
You forgot God's forsaken feature of the internet - Captchas.
andrepd 8y ago
Totally unrealistic. It loaded way too fast. It should have: weighed 12MB, taken 10 seconds to render properly on 4G, text jumping wildly around the page while it did, and have slowed my pocket supercomputer to a stuttering mess everytime I scrolled.
- weberc2 8y ago
  Also, everytime you click somewhere to highlight something or tap to scroll, an ad should load under your finger and redirect you to the product.
Zetaphor 8y ago
Drives me nuts, click a link to read an article, get 2 sentences in and then: "Want more content like this in your inbox?" I may have considered it if you allowed me to actually read the content first, but I certainly don't now.
- ljm 8y ago
  Not to mention the guilt trip if you don't find the close button. "Yes, sign me up!", "No, I don't give a shit about myself and my loved ones."
- quickthrower2 8y ago
  Subconsciously, if I am researching a topic to gather an opinion on something, my trust weighting for a site decreases by 80% as soon as I get an email popup box.
davidgh 8y ago
I was in the AWS control panel yesterday and it popped a modal at me and I habitually swatted it so fast before I realized “Oh snap, I’m in my AWS account - that might have been something important” and had no way to get it back. Page refreshes didn’t regenerate the modal. Sad that I’ve turned into one of Pavlov’s dogs and that very reasonable methods of increasing functionality have been abused so much that they are no longer useable.
- basch 8y ago
  I honestly consider this one of the most important computer skills, and its something you can really only get by understanding the different layers (is my prompt the os, software, which framework was it written in, a browser prompt, a website prompt, etc) and that is: what happens when i click [ok] [cancel] [x] (blankspace) etc. Its probably one of the most inconsistent experiences on a computer. One popups Ok is anothers x is anothers cancel. Ive seen most prompts before. I know what pressing cancel or ok on each one does without thinking. And if I dont know what it does, I have to pause and figure out the consequence of each button. And when I watch other people use computers, they will close things, and I ask them "what was that" they often respond "I dont know, I didnt ask for it, so I closed it." There seems to be a persuasive misunderstandig that dismissing a prompt will leave everything in its previous state, and that it cant make any changes.
  - gitgud 8y ago
    > "what was that" they often respond "I dont know, I didnt ask for it, so I closed it" To me there's nothing wrong with that attitude though. One of the best lessons you can teach someone when they're browsing the internet is; If some website is asking for permission to do something or wants you to download something that you didn't ask for. Then DON'T do it.
    - basch 8y ago
      Not at all. Read and understand what you are clicking. there are popups in windows (and 3rd party software) all the time, and if you click x, things stop working. thinks akin to "by closing this box or clicking ok, you are enabling autosave."
RegicidalManiac 8y ago
My browser did not slow down, clearly this is not 2018 website look at forbes.com for inspiration.
marsrover 8y ago
First website, while at work: > You Can't Visit This Website > According to the California Law §28, Hague Convention and > Maritime Law, we can't show the content of this website to > people who have not reached 18 years age. I'm not sure what it was but I'm glad I didn't click that I was over 18.
npmaile 8y ago
I'm not certain this is 2018. I saw the words and letters immedately instead of gray rectangles showing me where words and letters could be before being shocked by the appearance of the actual words and letters.
- ascagnel_ 8y ago
  The "gray rectangles showing me where words and letters could be" is so prevalent that Facebook used them in TV ads. https://youtu.be/Q4zd7X98eOs?t=39 https://youtu.be/Q4zd7X98eOs?t=39
  - gitgud 8y ago
    Wow now I understand, what a great way to make users squint to read grey blocks and lines...
ryanmccullagh 8y ago
You know who has the worst intrusive popups? Stack Overflow. First, if you are logged in but haven't visited in a while. They put a position fixed huge bar on the top reminding you that you haven't been to the site in a while. I hated that popup.
- weberc2 8y ago
  Try reddit on mobile. They keep trying to push you on their shitty app.
  - crooked-v 8y ago
    And intentionally delay mobile page loads.
  - pbhjpbhj 8y ago
    They've done a lot of work on making it more annoying recently. The "continue" button that actually means "don't continue but instead go and install the app" is inspired-evil. The flashing app icons, seemingly on every interaction, .. I mean for real.
  - oneeyedpigeon 8y ago
    On mobile, I find reddit's options are: desktop > mobile > app I wish they'd just concentrate on one good experience.
- swebs 8y ago
  I think the absolute worst is Imgur on mobile. They display a large modal that takes up 95% of your screen so you can't even view the image you were linked to. They don't even hint that you're opting in to something when clicking the big green button to dismiss. And instead of giving you a button saying you do not consent, they force you to uncheck hundreds of checkboxes across four different pages. I actually had to find a different image host because I don't want to subject more people to imgur. https://postimg.cc/nMkmpGQY https://postimg.cc/nMkmpGQY https://postimg.cc/VJ3rD731 https://postimg.cc/VJ3rD731
noncoml 8y ago
HN officially became Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/web_design/comments/9pmqxb/typical_website_in_2018/ https://www.reddit.com/r/web_design/comments/9pmqxb/typical_...
crooked-v 8y ago
This definitely needs to be either Material UI or a barely reskinned Bootstrap to better fit the look.
lewis500 8y ago
Would've been good if, in spite of just being text and a few buttons, it had been built with react, redux, redux-saga and had some contorted webpack build resulting in five JS bundles.
sdegutis 8y ago
The ad blocker and donation sections hit particularly hard for me, as I've tried to make several web apps/games (like editfight.com) that didn't have a clear monetization path, so I experimented with applying for ads, which Google rejected as the site was too unimportant, and with asking for donations, which backfired as the community was small, so it just appeared as me personally being greedy to the users.
- supernovae 8y ago
  i wish there was a better way... i make about 2 bucks a day on a site that costs many more times that to run and most of my success (haha 1.00 a day is a success? meh) is based upon luck - that changes every month depending on what google thinks my content is worth... yet those that cheat the system or have the money to "pay to play" dominate it... just not sure that they're actually making any money.
AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y ago
So the real question is, what are the webdevs of the world going to do about it? My guess is nothing. I can't blame them really, for everyone there is a number that is greater than their sense of shame, but at least they could stop pretending that the web is some brilliant platform that will lead computing into a new golden age.
- corobo 8y ago
  > what are the webdevs of the world going to do about it? Tell the marketing department that it's a bad idea then have to do it anyway
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cirgue 8y ago
Feature request: an ad that asks me to rotate my device (bonus points if it does it for desktop users too).
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eswat 8y ago
Doesn’t work in Firefox for me past turning notifications on/off. Accurate.
- cmnt 8y ago
  Don't forget to disable, if you have, "Don't care about cookies" extension !
  - edgartaor 8y ago
    Thanks. That's why it wasn't working for me. I think that extension it's really working.
supernovae 8y ago
As someone who is trying to run a website, I try and avoid these pitfalls - just not sure how to actually survive/compete in a world where this stuff you hate is where the bread and butter is.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y ago
  Whats the point of surviving if it means contributing to making the world a place you don't want to live in? You can probably earn a living some other way.
  - supernovae 8y ago
    I don't want to give up, I just want to see what people actually want out of content/publishers/journalism... just for example - asking HOW/WHAT to change got me downvoted here... how can the creative publishing industry survive if it's being punished for asking what would be better?
mudil 8y ago
As a publisher of the medical technologies news website (since 2004), I can tell you that what we have now is monopolized internet. Few entities, like Google and FB, took over the internet and crafted the landscape to their advantage. They monopolized ads revenue, search traffic, and more importantly, they are actively spying on the general public, taking away any possible advantages from publishers. The result is a dearth of advertising money for publishers and regulations aimed at destroying any attempt to take over these behemoths. When was the last time you saw GFPR notice on Facebook or Google? Do you think publishers enjoy having "Please Donate" pop-ups? When was the last time you heard of investment rounds in online publishers? In the olden days we had websites and blog networks being born, Gawker, Weblogs Inc, TechCrunch network, political networks, etc etc. And what do we have now? Central stations with fake news shenanigans and retarded memes. While publishers, including your local newspaper and your favorite websites, are struggling. And that's the story behind all these popups.
- supernovae 8y ago
  pretty much spot on. We have to change our habits if we want the web to survive. I'd love to get rid of google tag mamager/analytics/facebook pixel and all that jazz and it would be nice if people would signup with patreon and donate a few bucks a month so i could work on publishing vs milking every visitor... wish there was a way that people would realize that getting back to smaller communities and supporting publishers is actually a good thing
  - mudil 8y ago
    This internet monopoly is bad for our IQ, our society and our democracy.
whydoineedthis 8y ago
I would change that second to last screen to be about browser compatibility. A site being down/broken happens, no matter what year it is. But the fact sites like BofA do not support a common browser like FireFox I feel is much more in line with the other nonsense in this demo.
- rossdavidh 8y ago
  Added bonus if there's a link to a list of supported browsers, and your browser is actually on that list, but it still pops up that warning.
forrestthewoods 8y ago
Please add a 5 second gmail loading screen before your page is interactive.
tarosnow 8y ago
This is the terrible version of that GIF circulating on twitter.
fishingisfun 8y ago
I used to make sites when i was a kid in the 90s. i want to get back into webdev but without all the complicated stuff. How can i make an html only site? any site builders like dreamweaver in 2018?
- saagarjha 8y ago
  You could find a web host and just start pushing HTML to it.
- kevin_thibedeau 8y ago
  Dreamweaver is responsible for the horrible 640px and 800px tabular layouts from the aughts and many other web design sins. The marginalization of these vertical tools is the greatest thing to come out of modern web dev infrastructure. You can still buy it for nostalgia though.
- izzygomez 8y ago
  GitHub pages is free and great for static websites.
  - rchaud 8y ago
    He said "without the complicated stuff" and "Dreamweaver". Github Pages is all command-line and uses Git for file transfer, does it not? I think the OP is thinking drag-and-drop folders through FTP like good ol' Dreamweaver.
codeulike 8y ago
There is a tweet going round with a similar (but more glossy) video "Every website in 2018" by @darylginn https://twitter.com/darylginn/status/1053646859686809600 https://twitter.com/darylginn/status/1053646859686809600 edit: which is something to do with the 'UX Live' channel on telegram which OP also mentions
leetbulb 8y ago
You forgot to hijack the back button :)
rhacker 8y ago
Chrome and the other browsers should be slapped actually. Of all the popups the one that annoys me the most is the chrome (I'm assuming other browsers do it too) thing that tells you to run things in the background or web workers or notifications or whatever it's doing. That should never have been architected that way. It annoys me the most because its the freaking browser that is being an annoying little shit. My browser shouldn't be part of the problem it should be the solution.
hsavit1 8y ago
why isn't video content auto-playing???
nyxtom 8y ago
You forgot the splash loading screen to load in the tens of MB of javascript
itsevrgrn 8y ago
This website is missing a subscription gate. How am I able to view the site if I'm not a member!?
mpolichette 8y ago
Didn't realize it was a joke, got frustrated and left after 2 clicks and left... decided to check the comments... you win.
navs 8y ago
This isn't so bad. Maybe it's because I'm used to an onslaught of interruptions and I automatically dismiss them. What hits me the most is when I'm halfway through an article and then the interruptions re-appear. You're never comfortable in your browsing.
- moviuro 8y ago
  Firefox's reader mode does help for this kind of issues: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-reader-view-clutter-free-web-pages https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-reader-view-clu...
quizme2000 8y ago
The back button wasn't broken, I didn't get a disbale adblock notification, or a pop-up when trying to close the tab. Definitely not 2018 enough /s
- anonytrary 8y ago
  Really? That's strange, I got a disable ad-block request.
z3t4 8y ago
The fact that I thought this was a real site until the third or fourth click really shows how bad it really is.
anonytrary 8y ago
Wow I was actually getting really pissed off with their UX until I realized... that was the point. Well done!
fs85 8y ago
in that regard, one of the most controversial privacy/cookie notices i've come across in 2018; "If you're not a lawyer, you're probably fed up with these boxes. Here's our privacy policy if you're interested." (source: https://nukleosome.com https://nukleosome.com)
throwrhebrick 8y ago
I've started blocking a bunch of these sites from my searches using uBlock Origin. I don't even use websites that aren't someone's blog anymore because I'm sick of the trendy bs.
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andrewstuart 8y ago
Are there any websites that don't use cookies? Maybe the browser should have a global disclaimer that all websites use cookies unless otherwise stated.
- Nadya 8y ago
  Plenty - just not the kind most people are browsing. My personal website doesn't use any Javascript or set any cookies and doesn't track the user.
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himangshuj 8y ago
where are the ads that block 70% of the screen?
sv12l 8y ago
Good run. Feature request: you are missing the pop up (awww sorry to go/before you go..) when you are about to close the tab.
biql 8y ago
Doesn't have lots of mb of media and javascript files. Doesn't start playing video. Doesn't use ridiculously large fonts. Doesn't display a myriad of links with clickbait pictures and titles. Loads fast and doesn't make my laptop CPU with 4 cores sweat. In a good sense, that was actually not bad for a 2018 website.
SamWhited 8y ago
This clearly wasn't created by someone at Yelp; it didn't show deceptive reviews asking me to download the Android app every time I visit a page.
wbillingsley 8y ago
Now hang on, that can't be right - I didn't once get a Google overlay asking if I've ever bought a gift card for myself instead of someone else (seriously Google, has your data analysis not yet shown you I'M NEVER ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS). Nor even an autoplaying video with a five-second countdown timer that expires before you can get done with the click-throughs and aim the mouse at the one-pixel-wide target that will stop it playing.
- fandango 8y ago
  Can you elaborate on the gift card part? Have you found a way to increase Play Store credit in a private way? I noticed that when redeeming a Play Card, I still had to fill in an address and phone number.
buzzert 8y ago
I have JS disabled, but I was still able to see the “Start” button and some text. Not accurate!
windyfly 8y ago
Has anyone thought about adopting the permission management on phones to solve such kind of issues? Use NLP to modularize the T&Cs and create some sort of authorization system to manage consents to various setups so we don't need to do it over and over. Plus, it could be an unique identification system! Just be sure to decentralize it.
wingerlang 8y ago
You forgot the "live at product hunt" combined with the annoying "HI IM X LETS CHAT?" that takes up each corner.
tom4000 8y ago
Didn't get any useful content. Goddesses bless script blockers.
nkkollaw 8y ago
Is it in Times New Roman, or it's not loading some stylesheet?
dexterdexter 8y ago
Where is the "Would you like to install the app" header?
dolzenko 8y ago
Things missing: * (weird) scroll animation effects, like paragraphs appearing out of nowhere etc. * Disqus/other comment section loading (with screwing other elements position)
quickthrower2 8y ago
Ha ha, ironically that is much nicer to use than most "real" 2018 websites. For example: news.com.au / dailymail.co.uk I dare you to try those naked with no ad blocker. Or dare I say reddit.com on mobile.

595 points by bloomca 8y ago

Don't forget the JS library that senses your mouse position so that when you move your mouse up to the tab bar, it opens a final "Wait, don't go! Here's a free e-book, etc." modal on the page.

gitgud 8y ago
I've never seen that, do you have an example link you could share?
- hjek 8y ago
  Here's an example (that you can add to your own Wordpress, too!): https://www.brontobytes.com/blog/exit-popup-free-wordpress-plugin/ https://www.brontobytes.com/blog/exit-popup-free-wordpress-p... For more real-life examples, just try searching for some cake recipes. Cooking web sites all have this.

trulyrandom 8y ago

I don't get it. I click "Start" and then "no" when asked to allow notifications. After that I get a blank page.

nicoburns 8y ago

Oh god. This is so accurate. I think the GDPR is overall a good thing, but I wish they'd encoded respecting browser sent preferences into law, rather than requiring a user-visible prompt everywhere.

hadrien01 8y ago
The modal could be made easy to dismiss with a simple No button, it's publishers that don't make things easy for users.
- ljm 8y ago
  I think some of it might also be a function (or consequence) of the CMS being used for the site. You can either figure out a redesign that elegantly solves the problem (as NPR have done, offering a purely plain text version of their site), which might not be so easy depending on the tech; or you can treat the entire thing as pluggable and just add every new feature as a drop-in modal. Hell, if you've got a marketing team dependent on stuff like Google Tag Manager, then have them throw it in there. Job done. Not great for the users.
- IshKebab 8y ago
  Yes of course they don't want to - that's why he's saying they should be forced to do it by law.
sc11 8y ago
The proposal for the ePrivacy regulation (not the same as the old ePrivacy directive) is supposed to do that but unfortunately there hasn't been much movement on it in the last year. Can find a short overview of it here: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2018/08/beyond-the-gdpr-here-comes-the-eus-e-privacy-regulation-but-not-yet/ https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2018/08/beyond-th...
lozenge 8y ago
It's insane how P3P from 2002 was more advanced than anything the EU can come up with now.
- Hamuko 8y ago
  You mean the standard that never caught on and now lives on as a piece of Internet history? Yeah, super advanced shit, let's have that again.
- icebraining 8y ago
  The EU didn't come up with any protocols, advanced or not. The GDPR is not even specific to the internet, let alone specific ways of getting consent. It's up to the industry if they want to use fancy protocols to do so.
  - lozenge 8y ago
    Nobody has confidence that an explicit "I don't care about cookies" setting would satisfy GDPR.
- xg15 8y ago
  My guess is, even if there were some elegant, widely-supported standard for machine-readable privacy policies and even if browsers had some dedicated built-in API for privacy consents with some really polished and frictionless UI, you'd probably still be bombarded with popups begging you to click the "consent" buttons on that UI. The problem is that it's not a technical problem, but a political. No matter how technically elegant your spec, it doesn't change anything about the underlying conflict of interest: Website operators want to collect personal data and show ads, while users want to keep personal data to themselves and don't want to see ads. So trying to solve this via any kind of web standard is asking the website operators to act against their own interests. If you have no enforcement or incentive, you will end up with a standard that is either toothless (P3P, DNT with opt-in) or simply ignored (DNT with opt-out). GDPR (and the cookie law before) do have enforcement, which is why web sites can't ignore them - instead they fight back with a barrage of popups.
Meekro 8y ago
Europe should do this for their cookie law, too. Instead of every website having its own UI for it, we should force browsers to give the user some reasonable options like "accept all cookies", "reject all cookies", and "ask me every time" .. oh wait.
- falcolas 8y ago
  So, a prompt which changes your client side settings for that site? Perhaps driven either by an API or an automatic action prompted by the browser? Yes, please. As it stands today, it's too much work to set site-specific cookie privileges.
- paxy 8y ago
  So, being able to globally allow or disallow cookies, which every browser does already?
oneeyedpigeon 8y ago
What I don't understand is, why are there so many sites that don't remember my previous GDPR response?
- corobo 8y ago
  Why remember when you can ask again and maybe score an agreement? Naturally, you remember the agreement Honestly though I think it's sites being dumb and storing the choice in a session cookie or something because you've not agreed to storing cookies
  - Aeolun 8y ago
    Oh! That’s malicious compliance of the best kind.
  - oneeyedpigeon 8y ago
    I actually meant after I have agreed - it's even more annoying that way round!
- fandango 8y ago
  Please read the excellent comment of xg15 elsewhere in this thread. It basically suggests that publishers deliberately make the user experience as annoying as possible, as a way of protesting against the cookie and GDPR laws.

lintroller 8y ago

I was exposed to this idea a few days ago via this tweet: https://twitter.com/burgervege/status/1053557632265527296 https://twitter.com/burgervege/status/1053557632265527296 I enjoy the result of releasing this experience into the wild.

dang 8y ago

Url changed from https://github.com/Bloomca/website-in-2018 https://github.com/Bloomca/website-in-2018, which points to this, which makes the point rather more effectively.

lousken 8y ago

ads blocked -> mine monero instead, also missing autoplaying video as a background, scrolljacking and some weird bug in non-chromium based browser

brlewis 8y ago
Scrolljacking is so 2016.
- beaconstudios 8y ago
  so the 2018 version would be the page being a fancy animation that you play by scrolling, right?

superasn 8y ago

I thought it was a list of some unqiue interesting websites in 2018 and robotically started dismissing these things until i started getting a little furious when it hit me. Good work, it definitely fooled me.

erikig 8y ago
How far did you get until you got it? It took me until just after the email subscription modal...sighs
- xg15 8y ago
  I think the fake "do you want notifications?" notification kind of gave it away for me.
  - Kwpolska 8y ago
    I’ve seen sites with those being fake. If you say “no” to the browser prompt, the website can’t ask again. But if you make a fake prompt, you can repeat it any time you like. (Agreeing becomes a two-step process. Who the hell wants notifications from 99% of websites though?!)
- l0b0 8y ago
  Immediately, but only because most web sites think it's OK to show all of these things at once, making it a good 2 second task to work out which parts of the page is the content (if any).
- superasn 8y ago
  All the way until the AdBlock page :/

palehose 8y ago

"Translate this page" is missing.

Retr0spectrum 8y ago
Isn't that a chrome feature? I've never seen a website give me that directly.

jchmbrln 8y ago

Good grief. I didn't last more than 6 clicks or so. This is in the "so real it hurts" category. The only thing you've got wrong is page load time and overall responsiveness. This needs at least a couple more MB of JS. Good work.

gerry_shaw 8y ago
Agree, it definitely loads too fast to be a site 2018. \s
i_cant_speel 8y ago
It took me more clicks than I care to admit to realize that the awfulness was the point of the site. When I first got there, I was thinking, "How did such an awful site get to the front page of HN?"

artursapek 8y ago

Making everyone implement a cookies popup is the most idiotic internet-related piece of legislation I've ever seen.

Kiro 8y ago
Yeah, the problem is that it completely overshadows all the benefits of GDPR since most people just associates it with annoying cookie popups.

patatino 8y ago

Too real! The chat popup is missing? Or I couldn‘t find it

optimusclimb 8y ago

Since pretty much every engineer under the sun knows this experience sucks, how can we attribute this to anything other than the rise of MBAs running the show?

LiterallyDoge 8y ago
So true. Art majors too. And psych. And anyone with a sense of craftsmanship. And children and cats.
lozenge 8y ago
The lawyers are running the asylum.
superhuzza 8y ago
Let's run through it: 1. Do you want to receive notifications: Business or marketing request 2. Your privacy/cookie warning: Likely legal requirement. 3. Age requirement: I'll assume it's an 18+ site, so requested by legal dept. 4. Subscribe to our newsletter: Marketing request 5. Disable adblock: Business request 6. Donate: Business request. 7. Did you find what you were looking for: UX request 8. Something went wrong: Engineering
- SAI_Peregrinus 8y ago
  2. For the vast majority of sites, this is a Business request, since the cookies aren't necessary for operation. They're just for tracking. A login cookie being set would trigger the legal requirement, but a user with no account shouldn't even see the box.
  - VonGallifrey 8y ago
    > A login cookie being set would trigger the legal requirement, Are you talking about the EU privacy and data protection directives? Because they have an exception for Authentication, Session and Security Cookies as well as several other types of cookies which are necessary for the function of the site. A user that is logged in should not need to see this either.

sharjeel 8y ago

Where are the auto playing video ads at full blast?

ju-st 8y ago

A "Will you help improve the website?" survey popup is missing too.

christophilus 8y ago

I found a few bugs: It only has one JS file, and that isn't even 3KB. Needs to be at least 3MB. uBlock only blocks 2 items, not 30. It doesn't have infinite scroll, a sticky header, a fake chat window that pops up and says, "Shana from support is here to answer any questions"... Oh, and the back button still works.

tekknolagi 8y ago
I guess he could pad the JS file with some random nonsense...
- Sileni 8y ago
  Nah, just use a js file from a different "free template!" for every function on the page. Added benefit of stressing the templating engine depending on the back end.
ljm 8y ago
I bet it isn't even deployed on a high availability Kubernetes cluster.
jchmbrln 8y ago
True. And honestly, when I open the console log I expect it to be all red.
- wingworks 8y ago
  When it's all red you know it's a good website.
  - exikyut 8y ago
    Or that your /etc/hosts file is still in good condition.
diiiimaaaa 8y ago
It also misses 3 web fonts with 4 weight variations each.

netcan 8y ago

The depressing part is that this is an understatement. - please turn off ad blocking - GDPR: Consent to all these things: y/n (N) - --scroll - -- choose from 6 confusing choices - -- back - -- try again - --

thibautg 8y ago
With checkboxes looking like [X] (is it checked or not??), confusing on/off switches, very big ‘Allow all’ button, fake delay to opt out from tracking, a message telling you that you can’t be sure to be opted out if you do not allow 3rd party cookies, very very long list of 3rd parties to switch off one by one (unless you find the confusing optional ‘disable all’ switch) etc. etc. It’s a concentrate of dark patterns.

drenvuk 8y ago

I love this. There's not enough loading going on though. Everything was too snappy.

sov 8y ago

Almost perfect, actually needs the following: Needs to be material UI but poorly implemented so it's really slow. Needs a "do you have time for a short usability survey?"--bonus points for stacking it on top of the cookie notification. The "got it" button on donate/adblock needs to shame the user more. There needs to be an on-hover action for some of the buttons that causes an alert to push the about-to-be-clicked button down so the user accidentally navigates away, then, when they navigate back, have to re-do the process.

usaphp 8y ago

One that I "like" the most is the "We'd welcome your feedback" popup that appears the moment I open a website...like how am I suppose to give you any positive feedback if you are preventing me from using your damn website in the first place!

crazygringo 8y ago

Related reddit thread from 2 days ago, on the video that inspired it: https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/9q22c2/every_website_in_2018/ https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/9q22c2/every_website...

hn17 8y ago

Sad, but true. Time to change.

brink 8y ago

You forgot God's forsaken feature of the internet - Captchas.

andrepd 8y ago

Totally unrealistic. It loaded way too fast. It should have: weighed 12MB, taken 10 seconds to render properly on 4G, text jumping wildly around the page while it did, and have slowed my pocket supercomputer to a stuttering mess everytime I scrolled.

weberc2 8y ago
Also, everytime you click somewhere to highlight something or tap to scroll, an ad should load under your finger and redirect you to the product.

Zetaphor 8y ago

Drives me nuts, click a link to read an article, get 2 sentences in and then: "Want more content like this in your inbox?" I may have considered it if you allowed me to actually read the content first, but I certainly don't now.

ljm 8y ago
Not to mention the guilt trip if you don't find the close button. "Yes, sign me up!", "No, I don't give a shit about myself and my loved ones."
quickthrower2 8y ago
Subconsciously, if I am researching a topic to gather an opinion on something, my trust weighting for a site decreases by 80% as soon as I get an email popup box.

davidgh 8y ago

I was in the AWS control panel yesterday and it popped a modal at me and I habitually swatted it so fast before I realized “Oh snap, I’m in my AWS account - that might have been something important” and had no way to get it back. Page refreshes didn’t regenerate the modal. Sad that I’ve turned into one of Pavlov’s dogs and that very reasonable methods of increasing functionality have been abused so much that they are no longer useable.

basch 8y ago
I honestly consider this one of the most important computer skills, and its something you can really only get by understanding the different layers (is my prompt the os, software, which framework was it written in, a browser prompt, a website prompt, etc) and that is: what happens when i click [ok] [cancel] [x] (blankspace) etc. Its probably one of the most inconsistent experiences on a computer. One popups Ok is anothers x is anothers cancel. Ive seen most prompts before. I know what pressing cancel or ok on each one does without thinking. And if I dont know what it does, I have to pause and figure out the consequence of each button. And when I watch other people use computers, they will close things, and I ask them "what was that" they often respond "I dont know, I didnt ask for it, so I closed it." There seems to be a persuasive misunderstandig that dismissing a prompt will leave everything in its previous state, and that it cant make any changes.
- gitgud 8y ago
  > "what was that" they often respond "I dont know, I didnt ask for it, so I closed it" To me there's nothing wrong with that attitude though. One of the best lessons you can teach someone when they're browsing the internet is; If some website is asking for permission to do something or wants you to download something that you didn't ask for. Then DON'T do it.
  - basch 8y ago
    Not at all. Read and understand what you are clicking. there are popups in windows (and 3rd party software) all the time, and if you click x, things stop working. thinks akin to "by closing this box or clicking ok, you are enabling autosave."

RegicidalManiac 8y ago

My browser did not slow down, clearly this is not 2018 website look at forbes.com for inspiration.

marsrover 8y ago

First website, while at work: > You Can't Visit This Website > According to the California Law §28, Hague Convention and > Maritime Law, we can't show the content of this website to > people who have not reached 18 years age. I'm not sure what it was but I'm glad I didn't click that I was over 18.

npmaile 8y ago

I'm not certain this is 2018. I saw the words and letters immedately instead of gray rectangles showing me where words and letters could be before being shocked by the appearance of the actual words and letters.

ascagnel_ 8y ago
The "gray rectangles showing me where words and letters could be" is so prevalent that Facebook used them in TV ads. https://youtu.be/Q4zd7X98eOs?t=39 https://youtu.be/Q4zd7X98eOs?t=39
- gitgud 8y ago
  Wow now I understand, what a great way to make users squint to read grey blocks and lines...

ryanmccullagh 8y ago

You know who has the worst intrusive popups? Stack Overflow. First, if you are logged in but haven't visited in a while. They put a position fixed huge bar on the top reminding you that you haven't been to the site in a while. I hated that popup.

weberc2 8y ago
Try reddit on mobile. They keep trying to push you on their shitty app.
- crooked-v 8y ago
  And intentionally delay mobile page loads.
- pbhjpbhj 8y ago
  They've done a lot of work on making it more annoying recently. The "continue" button that actually means "don't continue but instead go and install the app" is inspired-evil. The flashing app icons, seemingly on every interaction, .. I mean for real.
- oneeyedpigeon 8y ago
  On mobile, I find reddit's options are: desktop > mobile > app I wish they'd just concentrate on one good experience.
swebs 8y ago
I think the absolute worst is Imgur on mobile. They display a large modal that takes up 95% of your screen so you can't even view the image you were linked to. They don't even hint that you're opting in to something when clicking the big green button to dismiss. And instead of giving you a button saying you do not consent, they force you to uncheck hundreds of checkboxes across four different pages. I actually had to find a different image host because I don't want to subject more people to imgur. https://postimg.cc/nMkmpGQY https://postimg.cc/nMkmpGQY https://postimg.cc/VJ3rD731 https://postimg.cc/VJ3rD731

noncoml 8y ago

HN officially became Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/web_design/comments/9pmqxb/typical_website_in_2018/ https://www.reddit.com/r/web_design/comments/9pmqxb/typical_...

crooked-v 8y ago

This definitely needs to be either Material UI or a barely reskinned Bootstrap to better fit the look.

lewis500 8y ago

Would've been good if, in spite of just being text and a few buttons, it had been built with react, redux, redux-saga and had some contorted webpack build resulting in five JS bundles.

sdegutis 8y ago

The ad blocker and donation sections hit particularly hard for me, as I've tried to make several web apps/games (like editfight.com) that didn't have a clear monetization path, so I experimented with applying for ads, which Google rejected as the site was too unimportant, and with asking for donations, which backfired as the community was small, so it just appeared as me personally being greedy to the users.

supernovae 8y ago
i wish there was a better way... i make about 2 bucks a day on a site that costs many more times that to run and most of my success (haha 1.00 a day is a success? meh) is based upon luck - that changes every month depending on what google thinks my content is worth... yet those that cheat the system or have the money to "pay to play" dominate it... just not sure that they're actually making any money.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y ago

So the real question is, what are the webdevs of the world going to do about it? My guess is nothing. I can't blame them really, for everyone there is a number that is greater than their sense of shame, but at least they could stop pretending that the web is some brilliant platform that will lead computing into a new golden age.

corobo 8y ago
> what are the webdevs of the world going to do about it? Tell the marketing department that it's a bad idea then have to do it anyway

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cirgue 8y ago

Feature request: an ad that asks me to rotate my device (bonus points if it does it for desktop users too).

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eswat 8y ago

Doesn’t work in Firefox for me past turning notifications on/off. Accurate.

cmnt 8y ago
Don't forget to disable, if you have, "Don't care about cookies" extension !
- edgartaor 8y ago
  Thanks. That's why it wasn't working for me. I think that extension it's really working.

supernovae 8y ago

As someone who is trying to run a website, I try and avoid these pitfalls - just not sure how to actually survive/compete in a world where this stuff you hate is where the bread and butter is.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 8y ago
Whats the point of surviving if it means contributing to making the world a place you don't want to live in? You can probably earn a living some other way.
- supernovae 8y ago
  I don't want to give up, I just want to see what people actually want out of content/publishers/journalism... just for example - asking HOW/WHAT to change got me downvoted here... how can the creative publishing industry survive if it's being punished for asking what would be better?

mudil 8y ago

As a publisher of the medical technologies news website (since 2004), I can tell you that what we have now is monopolized internet. Few entities, like Google and FB, took over the internet and crafted the landscape to their advantage. They monopolized ads revenue, search traffic, and more importantly, they are actively spying on the general public, taking away any possible advantages from publishers. The result is a dearth of advertising money for publishers and regulations aimed at destroying any attempt to take over these behemoths. When was the last time you saw GFPR notice on Facebook or Google? Do you think publishers enjoy having "Please Donate" pop-ups? When was the last time you heard of investment rounds in online publishers? In the olden days we had websites and blog networks being born, Gawker, Weblogs Inc, TechCrunch network, political networks, etc etc. And what do we have now? Central stations with fake news shenanigans and retarded memes. While publishers, including your local newspaper and your favorite websites, are struggling. And that's the story behind all these popups.

supernovae 8y ago
pretty much spot on. We have to change our habits if we want the web to survive. I'd love to get rid of google tag mamager/analytics/facebook pixel and all that jazz and it would be nice if people would signup with patreon and donate a few bucks a month so i could work on publishing vs milking every visitor... wish there was a way that people would realize that getting back to smaller communities and supporting publishers is actually a good thing
- mudil 8y ago
  This internet monopoly is bad for our IQ, our society and our democracy.

whydoineedthis 8y ago

I would change that second to last screen to be about browser compatibility. A site being down/broken happens, no matter what year it is. But the fact sites like BofA do not support a common browser like FireFox I feel is much more in line with the other nonsense in this demo.

rossdavidh 8y ago
Added bonus if there's a link to a list of supported browsers, and your browser is actually on that list, but it still pops up that warning.

forrestthewoods 8y ago

Please add a 5 second gmail loading screen before your page is interactive.

tarosnow 8y ago

This is the terrible version of that GIF circulating on twitter.

fishingisfun 8y ago

I used to make sites when i was a kid in the 90s. i want to get back into webdev but without all the complicated stuff. How can i make an html only site? any site builders like dreamweaver in 2018?

saagarjha 8y ago
You could find a web host and just start pushing HTML to it.
kevin_thibedeau 8y ago
Dreamweaver is responsible for the horrible 640px and 800px tabular layouts from the aughts and many other web design sins. The marginalization of these vertical tools is the greatest thing to come out of modern web dev infrastructure. You can still buy it for nostalgia though.
izzygomez 8y ago
GitHub pages is free and great for static websites.
- rchaud 8y ago
  He said "without the complicated stuff" and "Dreamweaver". Github Pages is all command-line and uses Git for file transfer, does it not? I think the OP is thinking drag-and-drop folders through FTP like good ol' Dreamweaver.

codeulike 8y ago

There is a tweet going round with a similar (but more glossy) video "Every website in 2018" by @darylginn https://twitter.com/darylginn/status/1053646859686809600 https://twitter.com/darylginn/status/1053646859686809600 edit: which is something to do with the 'UX Live' channel on telegram which OP also mentions

leetbulb 8y ago

You forgot to hijack the back button :)

rhacker 8y ago

Chrome and the other browsers should be slapped actually. Of all the popups the one that annoys me the most is the chrome (I'm assuming other browsers do it too) thing that tells you to run things in the background or web workers or notifications or whatever it's doing. That should never have been architected that way. It annoys me the most because its the freaking browser that is being an annoying little shit. My browser shouldn't be part of the problem it should be the solution.

hsavit1 8y ago

why isn't video content auto-playing???

nyxtom 8y ago

You forgot the splash loading screen to load in the tens of MB of javascript

itsevrgrn 8y ago

This website is missing a subscription gate. How am I able to view the site if I'm not a member!?

mpolichette 8y ago

Didn't realize it was a joke, got frustrated and left after 2 clicks and left... decided to check the comments... you win.

navs 8y ago

This isn't so bad. Maybe it's because I'm used to an onslaught of interruptions and I automatically dismiss them. What hits me the most is when I'm halfway through an article and then the interruptions re-appear. You're never comfortable in your browsing.

moviuro 8y ago
Firefox's reader mode does help for this kind of issues: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-reader-view-clutter-free-web-pages https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-reader-view-clu...

quizme2000 8y ago

The back button wasn't broken, I didn't get a disbale adblock notification, or a pop-up when trying to close the tab. Definitely not 2018 enough /s

anonytrary 8y ago
Really? That's strange, I got a disable ad-block request.

z3t4 8y ago

The fact that I thought this was a real site until the third or fourth click really shows how bad it really is.

anonytrary 8y ago

Wow I was actually getting really pissed off with their UX until I realized... that was the point. Well done!

fs85 8y ago

in that regard, one of the most controversial privacy/cookie notices i've come across in 2018; "If you're not a lawyer, you're probably fed up with these boxes. Here's our privacy policy if you're interested." (source: https://nukleosome.com https://nukleosome.com)

throwrhebrick 8y ago

I've started blocking a bunch of these sites from my searches using uBlock Origin. I don't even use websites that aren't someone's blog anymore because I'm sick of the trendy bs.

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andrewstuart 8y ago

Are there any websites that don't use cookies? Maybe the browser should have a global disclaimer that all websites use cookies unless otherwise stated.

Nadya 8y ago
Plenty - just not the kind most people are browsing. My personal website doesn't use any Javascript or set any cookies and doesn't track the user.

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himangshuj 8y ago

where are the ads that block 70% of the screen?

sv12l 8y ago

Good run. Feature request: you are missing the pop up (awww sorry to go/before you go..) when you are about to close the tab.

biql 8y ago

Doesn't have lots of mb of media and javascript files. Doesn't start playing video. Doesn't use ridiculously large fonts. Doesn't display a myriad of links with clickbait pictures and titles. Loads fast and doesn't make my laptop CPU with 4 cores sweat. In a good sense, that was actually not bad for a 2018 website.

SamWhited 8y ago

This clearly wasn't created by someone at Yelp; it didn't show deceptive reviews asking me to download the Android app every time I visit a page.

wbillingsley 8y ago

Now hang on, that can't be right - I didn't once get a Google overlay asking if I've ever bought a gift card for myself instead of someone else (seriously Google, has your data analysis not yet shown you I'M NEVER ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS). Nor even an autoplaying video with a five-second countdown timer that expires before you can get done with the click-throughs and aim the mouse at the one-pixel-wide target that will stop it playing.

fandango 8y ago
Can you elaborate on the gift card part? Have you found a way to increase Play Store credit in a private way? I noticed that when redeeming a Play Card, I still had to fill in an address and phone number.

buzzert 8y ago

I have JS disabled, but I was still able to see the “Start” button and some text. Not accurate!

windyfly 8y ago

Has anyone thought about adopting the permission management on phones to solve such kind of issues? Use NLP to modularize the T&Cs and create some sort of authorization system to manage consents to various setups so we don't need to do it over and over. Plus, it could be an unique identification system! Just be sure to decentralize it.

wingerlang 8y ago

You forgot the "live at product hunt" combined with the annoying "HI IM X LETS CHAT?" that takes up each corner.

tom4000 8y ago

Didn't get any useful content. Goddesses bless script blockers.

nkkollaw 8y ago

Is it in Times New Roman, or it's not loading some stylesheet?

dexterdexter 8y ago

Where is the "Would you like to install the app" header?

dolzenko 8y ago

Things missing: * (weird) scroll animation effects, like paragraphs appearing out of nowhere etc. * Disqus/other comment section loading (with screwing other elements position)

quickthrower2 8y ago

Ha ha, ironically that is much nicer to use than most "real" 2018 websites. For example: news.com.au / dailymail.co.uk I dare you to try those naked with no ad blocker. Or dare I say reddit.com on mobile.