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Prime Down: Amazon’s sale day turns into fail day
- dawhizkid 8y agoI’m curious what the reprocusions are, if any, once a post mortem is completed and teams or individuals that contributed to the outage are identified. Is “causing” this a fireable offense?
- beckler 8y agolol, like employers need a real reason to fire someone in this day and age
- NathanCH 8y agoIt shouldn't be unless there was malicious intent.
- selectiveshift 8y agoNot unless there was malicious intent or willful negligence. Amazon is a data driven company. The data shows that a “blame” culture results in more incidents. (Airline industry taught us this: https://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/maintenance_hf/library/documents/media/human_factors_maintenance/understanding_the_safety_culture.a_communicational_approach_to_%60blame%60_options_in_asrs_incident_report_narratives.pdf https://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/maintenance_hf/library...)
- smt88 8y agoDo you know this from experience? Or are you just guessing?
- smt88 8y agoMy friend was fired years ago for an AWS outage that took down Netflix. I don't know any other details, but should ask him.
- dlgeek 8y agoNo. Amazon's culture is super big on blaming the system. I know of incidents where operators made mistakes doing stuff that directly caused really big outages - the postmortems were entirely about the (lack of) safety of the tooling involved that allowed a single person to make such a mistake, and involved examining all the tooling of entire business units to try to identify other tools that could have such an impact. No individual blaming is involved - and in fact, postmortems always refer to "the engineer" or "the operator" and never include names.
- rpeden 8y agoIf only they had access to some kind of scalable cloud hosting service, they could've completely avoided this sort of outage. :) Jokes aside, I admire the work of the team(s) responsible for Amazon's web site. I use it so often and encounter glitches so rarely that it really stands out when something does go wrong.
- coryfklein 8y agoSerious question: I've heard that Bezos's approach with building out commercial units is to break down each part of the vertical into separate commercially-viable components. Idea being if AWS doesn't make sense for 3rd parties to use then it may not be economical to use it internally. Now the question part: would Amazon ever secretly run Amazon.com in a multi-cloud setup, balancing between AWS, GCE, Azure, etc?
- nevir 8y agoAs someone that worked at Amazon a long time ago—back when AWS was just getting started—can confirm (historically). Publicly there were a myriad of AWS services; internally all we could use was S3 (for many years), if we were lucky. AWS being born of Amazon's "spare capacity" is an urban legend. Nowadays, I hear it's quite different, and much of AWS is more rapidly dogfooded.
- cabaalis 8y agoI'm a big fan of dogfooding. But given Amazon's ecommerce huge computing needs, maybe it would make sense to not burden the compute availability of your fledgling cloud offering with your ginormous system?
- klodolph 8y agoIf built well your compute offering can scale with the resources you give it. If you have Amazon’s commerce platform running on a pool of computers, the team running commerce can give those computers to EC2 in exchange for an equivalent amount of EC2 quota. In theory it’s a bookkeeping operation. There are plenty of good reasons why you wouldn’t run Amazon’s commerce on EC2, but I don’t think cloud availability is one of them.
- coryfklein 8y agoHasn't this happened previously? It may become part of the celebration each year.
- rc-1140 8y ago... Is there anything even good for Prime Day this year? Or the year before? Two years ago I remember seeing at least some Dell Workstations that could be repurposed into cheapo home servers. Most of the stuff seems to be odds, ends, and stuff that the various Chinese product-clone companies couldn't get rid of.
- JacobJans 8y agoI got a baby car seat for half off, which saved a lot of money, actually.
- jbeales 8y agoJust tried to do a search, got no results. Google search found me the product page, (which worked). If you can't even search for products, there's a problem!
- sj4nz 8y agoAfter reading Ryan Holiday's "Trust Me I'm Lying" and knowing how well AWS usually handles surges of traffic, I am not so sure that this isn't a marketing stunt that gets them an amazing amount of press. Cynical?
- odorousrex 8y agoAny publicity is good publicity!
- coryfklein 8y agoIt's happened again [1], and in less than 15 minutes! That's it, I'm terming this the Klein effect. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17499447 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17499447
- sj4nz 8y agoThis made me smile. :) This is very close to to Poe's law as well, because after all, who can tell for sure if something that simply just went-wrong was intentional or not?
- jerf 8y agoThere are cheaper ways to get marketing press that don't involve kneecapping one of your two primary revenue generation engines. They've gotten at least two major news cycles just out of vaporware promises to deliver packages by drone, for instance. (It may not be vaporware forever but it certainly isn't coming soon enough to justify breathless press from a few months ago.) It's not like they don't have any idea how to drum up press.
- Jach 8y agoCould also be an A/B test of some new infrastructure design to see if it's ready to deploy in November. I have no idea if they still hold everything together with Perl (via this templating system: http://www.masonhq.com/ http://www.masonhq.com/) but it wouldn't surprise me, and it also wouldn't surprise me that there'd be occasional pushes to replace it with something "modern" (or at least friendlier to the revolving door of new grads).
- bluedino 8y agoThis is the page everyone seems to be getting https://i.imgur.com/vpIHDpA.jpg?1 https://i.imgur.com/vpIHDpA.jpg?1
- plandis 8y agoSame on mobile. Perhaps Amazon retail is transition to a dog photos as a service business model?
- eat_veggies 8y agodid Dapps stand for Dog apps the whole time? alternatively, Amazon rebrands their entire cloud lineup to PAWS
- hmcm55 8y agochanging the url to smile.amazon.com works
- 98codes 8y agoFor browsing -- search still seems completely hosed for me
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- degenerate 8y agoPeople should be using Amazon Smile all the time, outage or no outage :) I use this Chrome extension that rewrites all amazon pages to use it: http://www.smilealways.io/ http://www.smilealways.io/ FF equivalent: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/auto-smile/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/auto-smile/
- 52-6F-62 8y agoIt doesn't appear to be available for Canada, unfortunately. I didn't even know it existed.
- ovi256 8y agoFWIW, it worked fine in Western Europe since 1 GMT, 8 hours ago.
- oflannabhra 8y agoIs there enough historical, public data available to estimate the amount of money Amazon is losing per second?
- CamelCaseName 8y agoLast year they sold $2.4B, and this year I've seen estimates around $3.4B - $4B. Prime day is 36 hours long, but I bet sales are weighted heavily in the first few hours. So 3.7B / 36 / 60 / 60 = $28.6K per second, and then maybe double or triple that for the first hour or two after 3PM and that'll give you an idea of the scale. There's also knock on effects, like reduced trust in Amazon/less orders for the rest of prime week, but also positive effects, like people who will just defer their shopping. For what it's worth -- my sales are below my 30 day average. Glad I didn't go all out this year in terms of advertising.
- mikestew 8y agoIt probably doesn't help that the mobile app appears to load a random picture of a cute dog every time I press the "retry" button. So you can guess what I'm doing, trying to get it to load a new "Dogs of Amazon" pic. Probably should have gone with goatse, reduce the load. EDIT: do NOT search for "goatse" on your work connection. That alone, even if you've never heard the word, should tell you why I suggested it as an alternative.
- tzs 8y agoMaybe they figure that people who like dogs enough to want to see more will also click the link [1] to find out more about the "Dogs of Amazon", which seems to be unaffected by their problems. There they will find a story about Amazon's dog-friendly offices, 30+ pictures of Amazon dogs, and a video showing many of them. The time to consume all that is time the person is not hitting refresh on the shopping site, so maybe is a net win for Amazon. [1] https://blog.aboutamazon.com/working-at-amazon/how-much-does-amazon-love-dogs-just-ask-one-of-the-6-000-pups-that-work-here https://blog.aboutamazon.com/working-at-amazon/how-much-does...
- ergothus 8y agoInterestingly, despite not being a dog person, I found the first instance of a dog to be a cute, human-relatable inclusion. On later pages I found it frustrating and annoying. I'm sure there's a fundamental UX principle or two at work there, but I won't pretend to truly know what they are.
- blueside 8y agoI can't help but feel terrible for the team of people there that ultimately gets blamed for this, I hope they can get some sleep tonight.
- matte_black 8y agoA night of missed sleep didn’t hurt anybody.
- coryfklein 8y agoIt's not so much the missed sleep, as it is the 48 hours of intense heart-rending stress.
- matte_black 8y agoI’m blown away by the sudden and swift down votes to my original comment. These engineers work at a world class company and are paid vast sums of money to not fuck things up. They live way better off than the majority of the country and their mere presence makes life more expensive and stressful for communities around them. To suggest they cannot go a mere 48 hours or less without sleep on one of their company’s most hyped days is out of touch.
- toomuchtodo 8y agoAmazon is not world class. The pay is not comparatively great. There is no retail job (including Amazon) where undue stress and sleepless nights are warranted. You're not saving lives, you're selling books and cat litter on the internet.
- cheeze 8y agoIs their pay not comparatively great? Usually when I see this statement, folks are comparing seattle to silicon valley 1:1 which isn't a fair comparison. Seattle is expensive but not that expensive. My friends who work at amzn seem to be compensated in line with everyone else I know, but maybe I'm wrong?
- tres 8y agoFunny how this comes on the heels of aggressively expanding their workforce and trying to leverage themselves in a hundred different directions... Maybe it's just me and my confirmation bias at work, but it seems that the core value proposition that Amazon provided -- high value, low margins on products -- has been eroding before our eyes. Seems so much like the transition Microsoft made... too much focus on "synergies" and leveraging... not enough on keeping the bilges dry and the engine running. It's funny... Fred Brooks wrote about this in 1975... and we're still making the same mistakes forty years later. There are real limitations to how quickly any organization can grow. Even awesome companies who are excellent at building organizations -- places like like Amazon and Microsoft -- can't organize this law of software development away.
- klodolph 8y ago> Seems so much like the transition Microsoft made... too much focus on "synergies" and leveraging... not enough on keeping the bilges dry and the engine running. The companies that just keep the bilges dry and the engine running are the ones that we love, but they’re gone because they got made irrelevant. Or they got absorbed into something larger. Microsoft has a bunch of failed initiatives (Windows Phone, Zune) plus a bunch of successful ones (Azure, Xbox, Office 365). If you’re up for classic books like Brooks check out The Innovator's Dilemma. You have to try to expand in a hundred different directions because you don’t know which one of those hundred directions will be relevant next decade, and you have to be unafraid of cannibalizing your core business because if you don’t eat yourself then someone else will eat you instead.
- tres 8y agoThanks for the recommendation! I think the hard part is to walk the line between stagnation & over-expansion. This is a dilemma we all face in organizations large and small as well as individually. Building systems and processes (a.k.a Habits) that allow us to assume and integrate some new set of "stuff" without having to think about them (so we can move on to the next new "stuff") are what sets these companies apart; Amazon has been brilliant at this; however, from my perspective, looking at all the high-rise office buildings going up, it seems like maybe Icarus has flown too high... But again, I could be building a narrative to fit my preconceived ideas... I'm definitely no authority here. Maybe this is just another blip... I think more troubling to me is the overall degradation in quality of the things I have formerly taken for granted in Amazon -- the quality of the products and ratings.
- camtarn 8y agoKinda wish I still worked there and could see the post-outage writeup. My bet's on some unforeseen bottleneck that affects search and static pages. Almost everything within Amazon is crazy scaleable, but there are some bits where you scale them up and their behaviour changes radically. For instance, a service's cache misses might skyrocket as customers get distributed over a wider set of servers, causing service response times to increase just a little bit on average, tipping a dependent service over into more frequent timeouts, causing its downstream service to blow a timeout-percentage 'software fuse' and stop using that service... etc etc. Given that each of those services (and many more possibly-related ones) will have an on-call engineer paged into a conference call when the manure hit the rotating ventilation apparatus, there are going to be a lot of unhappy people cancelling their weekend plans right now. I definitely don't miss that aspect of the job!
- adreamingsoul 8y agooncall is the worst
- cheeze 8y agoNot oncall for Amazon but I don't particularly mind it. It sucks to have to be near a computer for the time, but I actually find digging in and finding that needle in a haystack pretty fun. On a good team, the life interruption is minimal.
- sateesh 8y agoAs much as I like digging,debugging and learning that comes with it, fixing things under tremendous time pressure wears me out :(
- iotscale 8y agoWhen I was on-call for a big project, I jumped every time my phone rang. It wasn't a good experience at all. "We are at the fair, I have 18 customers lined up but I can't take orders. Can you fix this now or should I start taking them on paper?" You know the joke that atheists don't believe in god until the plane nosedives? That was the moment for me :) "Oh, I... I need to see the error message before I can say anything. We don't have any errors logged. Hmm... Would you allow me to remote into your device?" "Can't do that. We lost the internet connection here, sorry." Ugh.
- lanius 8y agoI actually managed to add an item on sale to my cart, but my cart is now empty after refreshing. Oh well, maybe next year.
- phy6 8y agoThis made me laugh more than it should have.
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- jcampbell1 8y agoI'm seeing automatic reloading the page every second or so. Maybe some bad javascript, though it isn't adding entries to the history. Looks like they have a script that is DDoS themselves.
- phy6 8y agoSame, the search results page keeps refreshing, void of any items.
- itsEtai 8y agoHelp strikers in Europe by NOT purchasing from Amazon today. Thank you.
- ryeguy 8y agoBut I want things.
- middleclick 8y agoI have completely stopped using Amazon, with the final nail in the coffin being the stories about how they treat their workers. I think it's just a matter of dependence and most of the stuff I used to get, I can find it elsewhere.
- XalvinX 8y agoThere's another way to look at the workers situation. They do have jobs, and let me frankly say that in (for instance) Patterson City, California (aka bumf__k egypt, basically) creating thousands of jobs is not nothing...
- saudioger 8y ago"They do have jobs" is a very sad way to justify poor working conditions. Meanwhile Jeff Bezos' fortune is approximately $1,000 per American household.
- XalvinX 8y agoI would agree that Bezos is one greedy motherfucker. No doubt about it.
- cakemuncher 8y agoSlaves "had jobs" as well. Their masters just paid them in food, water, and shelter. This whole thing about businesses "giving jobs" is ludicrous. American brainwashing. Businesses NEED workers. Not the other way around. Humans have always existed and survived for hundreds of thousands of years without "jobs". Businesses cannot survive without workers. Businesses would simply cease to exist without workers. People can still grow their own veggies and meat. Businesses can't generate profits without workers.
- rednerrus 8y agoMy guess is this is an intentional marketing ploy. Think of how much press this is generating. Frontpage of HN. No way we are talking about this otherwise.
- NathanCH 8y agoAmazon is the front page nearly every day for some reason or other (:
- positr0n 8y agoThey are losing millions in revenue every minute their site is down. Way too expensive for marketing.
- ergothus 8y agoNot sure I follow. "Hey did you know Amazon is unreliable and unusable?" "Really? (checks) Yup, you're right!" (somewhere in the distance, a marketing guru cackles with delight)
- rconti 8y agoyes, this is the first I'm hearing about this whole amazon thing!
- adreamingsoul 8y ago#tinfoilhat
- krapp 8y agoNo. I work in one of the biggest fulfillment centers in the network. Shit broke.
- rajathagasthya 8y agoWhat happens to people responsible for the crash today (infra, culprit services)? Does Amazon take some kind of "action" since Prime Day is a huge, once-a-year event for Amazon?
- chronid 8y agoThey will have to write a detailed post-mortem (with many people with titles starting from director watching it every week). Based on what comes out from the post-mortem automation/testing will be implemented to remove/mitigate the failure from the equation in the future. Unless this is something egregious (ex: a manager not allowing the team to "scale up" in preparation for the event) no one will get fired. Tempers may flare a bit if it is something stupid (it's usually not). Nothing different from what happened with the (very public) DynamoDB and S3 failures of yesteryear.
- wenc 8y agoI wonder how Alibaba Cloud handles similar events [1], where there are bursts of 256k/s transactions and ~1bil packages being shipped out. Do they just do brute-force massive scale out? Amazon's US market is big, but my understanding is that number of online users in China (> 400mil) exceeds the population of the US (~325mil), which makes me wonder if the folks there think about data architecture a little differently than we do. [1] https://qz.com/1127087/singles-day-crazy-stats-from-alibabas-online-shopping-extravaganza/ https://qz.com/1127087/singles-day-crazy-stats-from-alibabas...
- rconti 8y agoCould be. But also, Amazon is doing Prime Day in Europe. Albeit they've got a time zone offset.
- paxy 8y agoDoesn't seem like it was a scaling problem at all in Amazon's case.
- cheeze 8y agoWhat? How do you jump to this conclusion!?
- rannn 8y agoProbably every day at Alibaba is a prime day in terms of transactions...
- akvadrako 8y agoTrue but they still have Singles Day, so it's not like they have constant load.
- jamesblonde 8y agoAlibaba build on Apache Flink. Today is a good day for Apache Flink.
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- mrep 8y agoIt's up, aaaaannnnddddd now it's back down...
- adreamingsoul 8y agoI'm enjoying reading all the x-amazonian stories and guesses about what's going on. https://gph.is/1SuGDrJ https://gph.is/1SuGDrJ
- rootbear 8y agoThe web site is a bit of a mess. And it seems that, just since this morning, my entire Wish List has vanished. Foolish me for not having a backup...
- antonvs 8y agoCheck again, mine was missing but it's back now. It's doubtful they'll actually lose data, issues are probably just due to services that are offline.
- XalvinX 8y agoIf you aren't being a little sarcastic, you are lucky. The bug saved you money for shit that you obviously are not wishing very hard for. Kids at Christmas time certainly don't need a backup....
- mh- 8y agoI wouldn't blame yourself too hard.. Amazon has strategically made it very easy to add items to your lists (bookmarklets, chrome extensions, etc.) while offering _no_ supported way to get the list back out.
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- hartator 8y agoIt's interesting that you can have hired the best talents in the world, but still have major outages. I wonder if there a way to ensure more people = more stability. Sounds a bit stupid, but maybe if each datacenter has its own software team working on the same issue, it will be very redundant work, but maybe it will be more organic in its failure?
- gm-conspiracy 8y agoOr a team of 9 pregnant women making a baby in only one month?
- hartator 8y agoShould work because 9 months / 9 = 1 month. You probably want a distributed team though, with maybe fetus being thrown around by pneumatic mail.
- cncrnd 8y agoYou're joking, but I do wonder if you can speed up fetal development in some way.
- HillaryBriss 8y agoI've heard this analogy before but I believe it could be improved. Thinking in terms of months leads to an awkward divisor. It would be better to go with a divisor of 10 so as to assign precisely one finger and one toe to each of the distributed work groups. (But, I have to admit, you may want yet another group to coordinate and assemble it all.)
- aviv 8y agoYikes AWS console down
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- biztos 8y agoWhat about the advertising money already spent? I read somewhere (sorry, forgot where) that Amazon had been pushing sellers to spend like mad on ads within Amazon.com for Prime Day, apparently it gave you a big edge over whatever the algorithms suggest. Those sellers will have missed their sales targets, and will consider the ad spend to have been wasted. Will they get it back?
- grivescorbett 8y agoI’d like to read that comms doc... “how to explain to your client what happened on pre day.”
- giarc 8y agoThe ad dollars are only spent if the ad is shown to users. If the site isn't up, ads can't be displayed.
- tssva 8y agoA lot of the ads were shown prior to Prime Day . They were to drive traffic to Amazon on Prime Day and not to promote product the day of.
- CamelCaseName 8y agoA lot of vendors also advertise off Amazon
- fencepost 8y agoAnd vendors who boosted supply based on anticipated sales (both discounts and purchases driven by discounts). Are vendors going to find themselves with thousands of extra widgets on-hand but without the anticipated purchasing frenzy they were counting on to sell them?
- CamelCaseName 8y agoYup, and if you have too much inventory, you can either remove it or sell it at a discount, both are expensive options. Otherwise you'll get Amazon telling you, "Hey buddy! You sure are using up a bunch space and not selling much. Why don't you not do that? We're limiting the amount of storage space you can use for Q3.
- kolleykibber 8y agoIt's also impossible to log into the AWS console. Surely something of such importance should be separate to the ecommerce site.
- andrewguenther 8y agoAWS console works just fine for me.
- cloakandswagger 8y agoI can log in without issue. If you're having problems, it's probably unrelated to the Prime Day outage.
- lawnchair 8y agoDown for me also and it's being reported on https://status.aws.amazon.com/ https://status.aws.amazon.com/
- helper 8y agoI can't login to my root aws account right now. It's pretty annoying that the root account login for aws is tied to amazon.com retail accounts.
- rconti 8y agoyeah, I'm pretty sure this could be causing some serious issues with plenty of folks. not sure if it's just the web console or if APIs are affected too, but I sure can't get in.
- philsnow 8y agoI've always been pretty sore about this, that my retail and AWS accounts are linked, with no clear way to disassociate them. If I had known that the accounts were going to be joined at the hip, I would have created my AWS account with a different email.
- all_blue_chucks 8y agoUsing the root account is a poor practice anyway...
- helper 8y agoIs it really so difficult to imagine that I needed to perform an action that can only be done from the root account? For example, the pen test authorization request form can only be filled out from the root account.
- blairanderson 8y agoI am unable to buy/bid on my Amazon AMS ads still as of 2:12PM.
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- rezashirazian 8y agoSomething no one has mentioned yet, could it be that the engineering force at Amazon is no longer what it used to be? I can personally point to two friends who I consider top notch engineers and designers that have left Amazon because of its toxic culture. I'm sure I'm not the only with these anecdotal examples, we've all heard the stories. At the end of the day years of unbalanced work/life balance, overly aggressive management and frugal approach to everything makes for a weak argument for A players to stick around. Could this be an example of crumbling engineering standard at Amazon?
- codeonfire 8y agoIn addition to the shit that is not politically correct to say, Amazon relies heavily on interns for production code and ops. Bezos has this view that the unskilled can get him 80% of what he wants and then a few top people can smooth out the rest. In reality the few top people never even come in contact with the kid that is trying to keep amazon.com running overnight. Successive waves of interns and SDE 1's fuck up the same shit over and over. Bezos is stupidly applying this same strategy at his space company.
- fjsolwmv 8y agoI always wonder how stupid people can accumulate $100Billion being stupid.
- Analog24 8y agoThis is complete nonsense, at least in my org. Interns are given projects that are as far from production code as possible. I'm sure there are managers out there who have done this but it does not extrapolate to the entire company and it's ridiculous to think that it's a company wide practice to make interns responsible for anything that would affect customers.
- wiredone 8y agoThis is complete BS. Interns are basically on a really well paid holiday and given random features that may/may not ever make it to production.
- downrightmike 8y agoI mean, I see it fail from the fact that there aren't any deals I want. Maybe if their fire tablets ran full android, but there isn't really anything on sale.
- russellbeattie 8y agoI work in a non-retail part of Amazon and I'm on vacation. Hasn't stopped friends and family from texting me about this though. As if I personally can go in and reboot a server or something. Hope we get it sorted soon! If you're affected by this, please accept my unofficial thanks for your patience and understanding. (If you're a coworker in retail, good luck getting things up and running!) :-)
- macshaggy 8y agoWell, everything I wanted to buy is simply not on sale. If Prime Day isn't supported by those things that I want or need then why would I participate?
- fma 8y agoI've participated before only to be disappointed. I didn't even Beyer looking at their 'deals' this year. I consider this their garage sale to get rid of junk...unless you want to buy Amazon products like Ring.
- ComputerGuru 8y agoI know TFA is about technical failures, but the deals themselves are also incredibly lacklustre. I was expecting at least the Warehouse Deals part of Prime Day to come through, typically 15 to 20% off all used offerings. This year however, Amazon restricted it to only select listings which translated to a few hundred items total. Very sad.
- HillaryBriss 8y agoI didn't see anything that appealed to me either. One other person told me the same. Maybe Amazon's overloaded system was caused by shoppers checking back more frequently than in past years because they can't find really good deals this year either but keep looking harder and harder anyway?
- Jaruzel 8y agoI've come to the conclusion that 'Prime Day' is just a clearance sale. Unless you find something that is exactly what you've been planning on buying, it's all just 'tat' and not worth buying even at Prime Day prices.
- XalvinX 8y agoI just realized the influence of Hacker News. I read techcrunch every day and it is rare for an article, any article, to get more than 2 or 3 comments (although, to be fair, they just added commenting in the last few months)...this one got 35 already! Anyways, I think that this is NOT a fail for Amazon at all, but a major win. They obviously created all kinds of attention! I'm sure they will get it right next time, and maybe, if they think fast, can reverse this situation by offering those who were disappointed a 2nd chance at an even-greater discount...at least that's what I would do.
- anigbrowl 8y agoIndustrial action is cool and good https://twitter.com/kadybat/status/1018926864767676416 https://twitter.com/kadybat/status/1018926864767676416
- dingo_bat 8y agoTFA is a super buggy webpage.
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- oh-kumudo 8y agoAmazon is worse than Alibaba even, what a failure today.
- kazishariar 8y agoIt's hush-hush in the industry that CAT5 and it's predecessor the CAT5+1, both are shielded with peanut butter. It's also a little-known fact that most datacenters or PCs as we in the NOC tend to call them. Are also built around tropical rainforests, which provide both security from the common man, as well as naturally cool down the millions of heatsinks needed for the cloud. But an even lesser known fact is that monkeys, yes monkies love peanut butter. --I'll leave the rest to your imagination. But one of those fat guys, drinking beer, with a hoodie, and in need of a bath left one of the windows open. The rest... well, the rest was prime.
- mirimir 8y agoHuh? Amazon seems OK now. Edit: But hmmm, Quora just went down. > 504. Gateway Timeout. > Quora is temporarily unavailable. > Please wait a few minutes and try again. And they use AWS, right? Edit: I just got as far as search, order, cart. But no account as Mirimir, so ... Edit: Re Quora - http://downdetector.com/status/quora http://downdetector.com/status/quora I wonder what other AWS stuff is down. If that's it, anyway.
- anonu 8y agoConsumerism at its best... Probably for the better than Amazon Prime is down (at least for me - I'll speak for myself). Honestly, my life got better when I stopped getting packages to my door. Only buy the most essential things you need - sell the stuff you don't. Better to live an uncluttered life without "things"...
- wheeler5x5 8y agoHow about some love for their marketing guy who made it all happen? Jeff probably said "make it rain, let's see if your hordes can take down Amazon.com," and this guy basically accepted, and succeeded at, the challenge.
- nullpunkt 8y agoyou're fucked up mate
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