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Report of Active Shooter at YouTube HQ

745 points by coloneltcb 9y ago

bitxbitxbitcoin 9y ago
More information from local news: http://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/possible-active-shooter-at-youtube-in-san-bruno/1098585330 http://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/possible-active-shooter-a...
- rokhayakebe 9y ago
  Can you please remove this link. It seems it hijacks the browser session.
  - paulcole 9y ago
    What do you mean by this? It's a link to a local news site.
    - myko 9y ago
      It looks like it may have a malicious ad or something. It takes over my entire session and says my bank information has been stolen. It locked up Chrome as well and I had to kill the process myself (on Windows).
      - calebh 9y ago
        I've had problems with malicious ads redirecting me lately. I began to suspect that my phone was infected, but it turns out that this is now a common occurrence: https://www.wired.com/story/pop-up-mobile-ads-surge-as-sites-scramble-to-stop-them/ https://www.wired.com/story/pop-up-mobile-ads-surge-as-sites... I don't know why the ad platforms even allow custom JavaScript...
        jsgo 9y ago
        I don't even understand why governments haven't made a case of this generally speaking. If an ad network allows this kind of behavior, they can be blocked by countries. Sites won't want networks that can't serve traffic in as many countries as possible, so it should solve itself. And it isn't that far removed from what happened to Podesta or whatever. They could make it a case that it is important to the state.
jshap70 9y ago
Looks like he made it out ok https://twitter.com/Lavrusik/status/981263546460774400 https://twitter.com/Lavrusik/status/981263546460774400
- Analemma_ 9y ago
  Wow, gotta love the journalist asking him for an interview when he was still barricaded and hiding: https://twitter.com/NadineatABC/status/981261561057759232 https://twitter.com/NadineatABC/status/981261561057759232. That's not even bottom-feeding anymore, I don't think there's a word for whatever that is. (Edit: screenshot for when it is inevitably deleted: https://imgur.com/a/GEtR4 https://imgur.com/a/GEtR4)
  - 7dare 9y ago
    Plus it's basically inviting anyone else to call in with fake information, pretending to having been there. Bad journalistic standards...
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  - lainga 9y ago
    Same thing happened at Parkland, IIRC.
  - Graffite 9y ago
    This isn't the first time she's done this: https://www.salon.com/2012/12/15/abc_producer_earns_internets_hate_for_tweeting_at_newtown_relatives/ https://www.salon.com/2012/12/15/abc_producer_earns_internet...
    - rmidthun 9y ago
      Warning: That link was replaced with a "your machine might be infected, call us now!" type scam.
minimaxir 9y ago
A good account from a YouTube PM: https://twitter.com/tdd/status/981262640830754817 https://twitter.com/tdd/status/981262640830754817
- huac 9y ago
  i liked the part where he called an uber to an active shooting scene
  - izzygomez 9y ago
    We are all taking ubers/lyfts back home from a different Google building in the area per police/company protocol. Source: I'm a YT employee working out of 901 Cherry Ave.
sna1l 9y ago
Some live updates: https://twitter.com/erinjeanc https://twitter.com/erinjeanc
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fish2000 9y ago
Vice has it: https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/qvx3wp/active-shooter-reported-at-youtubes-headquarters-in-california?utm_source=vicetwitterus https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/qvx3wp/active-shooter-re...
RyanZAG 9y ago
Result of politicization of YouTube? They've been on a mission to block hateful content recently, and naturally you're going to have a number of damaged people posting such content. They should probably hire the relevant levels of security that a political organization would hire. Secret service aren't just for show, they're needed when things get political.
- deleted 9y ago
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- ironjunkie 9y ago
  too soon to speculate on anything.
  - jerf 9y ago
    Absolutely. Someone's response to a high-stress work environment, an affair of the heart gone wrong, latent psychological issues... the "merely mundane" possibilities that could happen anywhere are still plenty realistic. Shit happens.
  - RyanZAG 9y ago
    I guess I'm not so much speculating as calling on companies like Youtube to hire more protection for their staff. They're really putting themselves out there, and if this is or isn't somehow related to Youtube's business, they are eventually going to get hit. Read the comments on any of the interviews Youtube staff have done, and weep. My point was more: Youtube is taking remote action on people they don't know that can have life altering effects through their policies. The kind of content Youtube blocks is almost definitely created by at least a few damaged people. Eventually they are going to be the target of violence from such people. They need to be proactive and realize the risks they place their employees in simply by virtue of their scale and policy choices. And this goes for other similar companies too. Security for employees should be more of a priority than it is - their employees become public figures.
- cinquemb 9y ago
  Maybe the decoy buses angered some folks? Secret service? Might as well get the DoD to task some reapers for overwatch at all their corporate upstream collection facilities…
mattsfrey 9y ago
Pretty incredible to see people making jokes in response to the tweet literally in real time. Journalists trying to get him to call them and give updates. Our society is completely fucked.
- ggregoire 9y ago
  Pretty incredible to see as first response “If you had a gun may not need to hide”. From an European point of view.
  - dguaraglia 9y ago
    From any point of view. This is beyond fucked.
    - dguaraglia 9y ago
      Nothing screams "free thinking" and "tolerant right wing" than an angry comment getting downvoted. Hacker News has become a Trumpbot playground.
  - rmdashrfroot 9y ago
    Is it not true? What did they do in response to an active shooter? They called the police and SWAT -- people with guns.
    - toomuchtodo 9y ago
      > Is it not true? What did they do in response to an active shooter? They called the police and SWAT -- people with guns Qualified people with guns (ideally).
      - rmdashrfroot 9y ago
        America's obsession with credentials at its finest... these people are allowed to have guns because we say so, but no one else! (except those pesky criminals and shooters who don't abide by laws)
dmode 9y ago
Seems like live video here: https://www.pscp.tv/w/1jMJgqYERyPKL https://www.pscp.tv/w/1jMJgqYERyPKL
spullara 9y ago
Most specific stuff I have seen. https://twitter.com/mrwilltolive/status/981260734305918978?s=21 https://twitter.com/mrwilltolive/status/981260734305918978?s...
- throwaway2016a 9y ago
  That says "female shooter" but one of the other threads said "I looked right into his eyes" [1] It is probably too soon to get reliable information. [1] https://twitter.com/etharkamal/status/981264092899037185 https://twitter.com/etharkamal/status/981264092899037185
  - rhcom2 9y ago
    Definitely. Nearly all lone shootings have reports of multiple gunmen because it is just so chaotic.
    - xxpor 9y ago
      https://www.wnyc.org/story/breakingnews-consumers-handbook/ https://www.wnyc.org/story/breakingnews-consumers-handbook/ The Breaking News Consumer's Handbook: Active Shooter Edition
    - greggarious 9y ago
      >Definitely. Nearly all lone shootings have reports of multiple gunmen because it is just so chaotic. For example at Columbine one of the shooters removed their trenchcoat, which when talking to victims briefly gave the impression of a 3rd shooter.
    - tehlike 9y ago
      It is also safer to assume multiple. You cannot be sure.
  - anonfunction 9y ago
    There's another report that it was a man in full body armor: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZ4me3FX4AENDyG.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZ4me3FX4AENDyG.jpg
nerfhammer 9y ago
https://twitter.com/etharkamal/status/981264092899037185 https://twitter.com/etharkamal/status/981264092899037185
- matte_black 9y ago
  Reports of “guy in full body armor”. Keep this in mind later to see if it’s true. Usually it isn’t.
  - stevenwoo 9y ago
    Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable and this sort of mistaken memory is to be expected. Wonder what that guy actually saw - just a bulky person or law enforcement or just repeating what someone else mistakenly thought they saw.
jen729w 9y ago
“Active shooter” is just the term used now? Does anyone know how that came to be? It sounds like a too-calm euphemism that an interest group thought up.
- hellofunk 9y ago
  It's an old term, nothing new.
- dgritsko 9y ago
  Pretty descriptive IMO. Do you have a better alternative in mind?
- gkoberger 9y ago
  There's a long Wikipedia article about it that's interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_shooter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_shooter But basically, it's a law enforcement term for someone looking to randomly kill as many people as possible, without a specific victim. So, no need for hysterics – it's just a police term.
  - jen729w 9y ago
    Ah, cool. Thanks.
  - oiannahahah 9y ago
    what hysterics?
    - gkoberger 9y ago
      That's a response to "It sounds like a too-calm euphemism that an interest group thought up."
- shemnon42 9y ago
  More progressive campuses use "Active Harmer" because it may be a crazy person with a machete instead of a gun. https://www.colorado.edu/today/2016/10/06/incident-terminology-what-active-harmer https://www.colorado.edu/today/2016/10/06/incident-terminolo... And in that case referred to in that story it was a crazy person with a machete.
tzakrajs 9y ago
Can we get any more detail on this from people over in San Bruno? Be safe! Thoughts are with you.
- machinesmachine 9y ago
  tweets man, nearly live feed, its scary
  - isostatic 9y ago
    > its scary So is 'Saw'. Doesn't make it true.
ProfessorLayton 9y ago
This is crazy and I hope everyone is OK. Its worth pointing out that Snapchat's heat map is pretty useful for getting insights in situations like these.
- robtaylor 9y ago
  Which now has a web interface http://maps.snapchat.com http://maps.snapchat.com
  - esnard 9y ago
    Direct link to YouTube HQ: https://map.snapchat.com/@37.627305,-122.424574,12.99z https://map.snapchat.com/@37.627305,-122.424574,12.99z
  - samfisher83 9y ago
    Wow this is a killer feature. I never knew snap had this. Maybe it can replace twitter.
    - my_ghola 9y ago
      > this is a killer feature Too soon.
    - komali2 9y ago
      Here I thought snapchat was on the out - this feature alone absolutely dominates Periscope for me. I just had no idea it existed.
      - taternuts 9y ago
        That's one of the common complaints of snapchat. I'd bet most people that even use snapchat don't even know how to get to this feature in the app. It was released some time last year without much press (I think they did a self-snap story about it) and even took me a couple tries to figure out how to get there when I knew about it. There's literally no way of knowing that view exists without just knowing it or accidentally triggering it, and I didn't even know there was a web interface for it.
emilfihlman 9y ago
Wouldn't be surprised if it's because of the recent idiotic rules YouTube has started to impose on any gun content. Of course it doesn't help sway opinion but I can see how it could have triggered someone to act.
- deleted 9y ago
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- canadianwriter 9y ago
  Dude no, this isn't cool. Rethink how you react to this kind of stuff.
  - emilfihlman 9y ago
    Wot? How is anything I say cool or require rethinking? YouTube recently introduced absolutely idiotic rules on gun related content. It's a major loss to a lot of people and practically zero gain for anyone else. This might have angered someone enough to take it out on YouTube.
    - tzakrajs 9y ago
      Baseless speculation is discouraged here.
      - GirlsCanCode 9y ago
        This entire thread is speculation.
    - Frondo 9y ago
      If some gun owner's response to a private corporation changing their rules for a free service they offer is to start shooting people, that's a really strong case for much tighter gun control. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
      - emilfihlman 9y ago
sounds 9y ago
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- pbalau 9y ago
  Please remove this!
tedwasright 9y ago
They demonitized his videos so he demonitized their lives.
jrobn 9y ago
As a US citizen hearing about another mass shooting, I'm honestly not shocked. There will be more next month as well until eventually they will become the "price" of our great "freedom". Sickening. Edit: Not sure why people are down voting my comment. America has a gun violence problem[1]. [1] https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/2/16399418/us-gun-violence-statistics-maps-charts https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/2/16399418/u...
- monochromatic 9y ago
  Typical hoplophobe response.
  - moate 9y ago
    I mean...if you're not afraid of weapons, the purpose of which is killing, you're probably doing it wrong.
    - monochromatic 9y ago
      If the purpose of guns is killing, I think mine are defective. They’ve never killed anybody!
      - jrobn 9y ago
        I find your assumption that my comment was anti-gun in anyway quite telling. I own guns myself. I do have a problem with people using them to kill people. America has a gun violence problem[1]. [1] https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/2/16399418/us-gun-violence-statistics-maps-charts https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/2/16399418/u...
      - InitialLastName 9y ago
        You've evidently just not been using them as intended.
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EngineerBetter 9y ago
I hope everyone is safe. Please, America: sort it out. Politics aside, it hurts to see this stuff happening again and again so needlessly.
- oh_sigh 9y ago
  Any ideas? Banning handguns and jilted lovers or angry people is a whole different ballgame than banning automatic weapons or the sort.
  - DanBC 9y ago
    Any person who has a conviction for domestic assualt isn't allowed to own any type of gun Any person with TBI isn't allowed to own any type of gun Any person with drug or alcohol addiction isn't allowed to own any type of gun Those three things would cut down the numbers of these types of murders, which tend to be impulsive.
    - Cuuugi 9y ago
      I don't have a issue with the logic of your statements, however the implementation of them could be rather scary. Who is to say what a alcohol addiction entails? etc. etc.
      - DanBC 9y ago
        A litre of 40% ABV spirits per day, or equivalent. It's not that hard.
        Cuuugi 9y ago
        Which then means you would have to register to buy alcohol. :S
    - oh_sigh 9y ago
      What percentage of gun murders are committed by people with TBI, domestic assault, or state-known drug or alcohol problems?
soperj 9y ago
I've said it on here before, I'll never live in the states just because of the gun culture, and have been told(on here) that you don't have to worry about it if you don't go into the wrong places. I don't understand how people can repeatedly say that when these things keep happening.
- aianus 9y ago
  "I will never fly on a plane. How can people keep flying when planes keep falling out of the sky every couple of months?"
  - Avshalom 9y ago
    But, they don't fall out of the sky every couple months, Americans DO die from guns every couple minutes though.
    - lopmotr 9y ago
      Planes absolutely do crash every couple of months, much more if you count private planes. Just like guns, you have to keep away from the "wrong places" to be safe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_commercial_aircraft#2017 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incident...
      - res0nat0r 9y ago
        ...like your corporate office job at YouTube?
    - thousandautumns 9y ago
      Planes do fall out of the sky every couple months, especially when you consider small planes and non-commercial flights. Additionally, the gun deaths statistic is cherry picked. Two-thirds of those gun deaths are from suicide. Also, the overwhelming majority of those who die in gun related homicides are poor minorities, highly concentrated in poor communities, and tend to occur between people who know each other, rather than random deaths. Does America have a gun violence problem? Yes. Are guns a reason to be concerned for the average American, or someone like yourself who would move here? Not even remotely.
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m0meni 9y ago
Youtube recently introduced restrictions on videos promoting firearms: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/03/youtube-to-crack-down-harder-on-videos-about-building-buying-firearms/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/03/youtu... Edit: Just a topical article...not attempting to tie the two events together.
- lainga 9y ago
  I would hesitate before immediately associating the two events, however, just as Remington's recent bankruptcy followed (but was not caused by) the Parkland shootings.
  - m0meni 9y ago
    Just thought it was topical. Associating the two events so soon would be a stretch.
- oh-kumudo 9y ago
  This feels like a political retaliation.
  - ajkjk 9y ago
    No it doesn't, there's no information about it available yet.
- russdill 9y ago
  It's really hard to make a guess on this one, workplace shootings by disgruntled employees or domestic causes are just so common.
  - russdill 9y ago
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/official-woman-shot-boyfriend-at-youtube-hq https://www.thedailybeast.com/official-woman-shot-boyfriend-...
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notafxn 9y ago
And it's a woman! I like the efforts YouTube makes for diversity.
- pbalau 9y ago
  How the fuck do you know this? Stop spreading rumors. Please delete
  - notafxn 9y ago
    http://abc7news.com/watch-live-shooting-investigated-at-youtube-headquarters-in-san-bruno/3297411/ http://abc7news.com/watch-live-shooting-investigated-at-yout... >Another law enforcement source confirms to ABC7 News reporter Dan Noyes that the shooter is a white, adult female wearing a dark top and head scarf. Please delete yourself.
- sctb 9y ago
  We've banned this account.
pmcgrathm 9y ago
Per a SWAT officer - his team has not been activated, which means the situation is under control. Apparently an attempted murder/suicide. Female shooter. 10-20 shots fired and multiple people being treated for gunshot wounds. No news as to what happened to the shooter.
- pmcgrathm 9y ago
  Shooter w/ self-inflicted gunshot wound to the chest. Handgun pulled out of purse.
  - fmihaila 9y ago
    I think that under the circumstances links/citations are required. False rumours are rampant and it's too easy to contribute to their spread (even unwittingly).
    - aliljet 9y ago
      Strongly agreed. Citation or it's just a rumor.
      - JeremyBanks 9y ago
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        aliljet 9y ago
        To be clear, this is an extreme circumstance where people hunting for an explanation could easily gravitate toward misinformation is a uniquely destructive way. So, sure, I don't have a reason to suspect OP is a liar; I have a reason to suspect that all information right now is likely untrue unless confirmed otherwise.
        untog 9y ago
        This three-year-old account might believe this to be absolutely true, because they were told it by someone they trust. And that person was told it by someone they trust. And so on, through dozens of people if not more, and all it takes is one person in the chain to start exaggerating/fabricating information and everyone is forwarding false information. > this is as credible as anything else we're hearing. You're right there. And that's the point: nothing we are hearing is credible. Treat it as such.
sjs382 9y ago
Remember the Breaking News Consumer's Handbook from WNYC's On The Media: https://www.wnyc.org/story/breaking-news-consumers-handbook-pdf/ https://www.wnyc.org/story/breaking-news-consumers-handbook-... 1. In the immediate aftermath, news outlets will get it wrong. 2. Don't trust anonymous sources. 3. Don't trust stories that cite another news outlet as the source of the information. 4. There's almost never a second shooter. 5. Pay attention to the language the media uses. • “We are getting reports”… could mean anything. • “We are seeking confirmation”… means they don’t have it. • “[News outlet] has learned”… means it has a scoop or is going out on limb. 6. Look for news outlets close to the incident. 7. Compare multiple sources. 8. Big news brings out the fakers. And photoshoppers. 9. Beware reflexive retweeting. Some of this is on you.
- jdoliner 9y ago
  This isn't limited to the immediate aftermath either. I recently learned that almost everything I thought I knew about the Columbine shooting was actually not true. The narrative of a shooting quickly takes on a life of its own.
  - nicolapede 9y ago
    Would you mind elaborating a little on the Columbine shooting and where to look for trustworthy reconstruction of the event?
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    - jdoliner 9y ago
      Sure, let me first say though that there's so much misinformation surrounding that particular event that I'm not really willing to 100% trust anything at this point. I'm always ready to find out what I think I know about the event is actually wrong. That being said here were the major things I used to think were true that I don't anymore: - The shooters were not in The Trenchcoat Mafia (TCM). TCM was a thing that some of their classmates used to refer to themselves. Dylan and Eric were never closely associated with it. The coats they wore during the shooting weren't even trenchcoats, they were dusters. - They weren't outcasts, and the shooting was revenge against the popular kids. They weren't the most popular kids in school either but that had fairly normal social lives, went to parties on the weekend. If I recall correctly prom had been a few weeks before the shooting and both had gone, with dates. - The infamous exchange in which they asked a classmate if she believed in god and then shot her when she responded "yes" never happened. This source seems pretty good: https://www.policeone.com/school-violence/articles/1228405-The-Columbine-High-School-Incident-Fact-and-Fiction/ https://www.policeone.com/school-violence/articles/1228405-T... I first found out about it from this podcast: http://www.socialmatter.net/2017/05/12/myth-20th-century-episode-18-columbine-culture-violence/ http://www.socialmatter.net/2017/05/12/myth-20th-century-epi...
rwhitman 9y ago
Live feed on CBS: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-respond-youtube-possible-shooter-today-2018-04-03-live-updates/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-respond-youtube-possible...
oh-kumudo 9y ago
Stay safe people! You life matters, don't listen to those vile political trolls that couldn't contain themselves to inject their own agenda into this tragedy.
goldenkey 9y ago
If you work at an office or startup, I recommend purchasing a few fire extinguisher style 1-5 pound pepper spray units. They have ridiculously long range, up to 25 feet. Could save you and your teammates lives. Here's an Amazon link to the one my cubicle is stocked with: https://amzn.to/2q1F6US https://amzn.to/2q1F6US
- morsch 9y ago
  I recommend getting an actual fire extinguisher, it's more likely to safe your and your teammates lives.
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- kettlecorn 9y ago
  This seems like a rather poor time to opportunistically comment with your own affiliate links.
  - goldenkey 9y ago
    How is a shortened link an affiliate link?
    - kettlecorn 9y ago
      Your shortened link is an affiliate link. The shortened URL you linked expands to the following, the italicized part is your affiliate tag: mazon.com/SABRE-Red-Pepper-Gel-Strength/dp/B002368VJ6/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1522790270&sr=8-6&keywords=pepper+spray+pistol+grip&linkCode=sl1&tag= detailpage00 -20&linkId=b202e58be12cb5fc5ac7c02da0965cd3
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dkoubsky 9y ago
The police have held a press conference. https://twitter.com/search?q=san%20bruno%20press%20conference&src=typd https://twitter.com/search?q=san%20bruno%20press%20conferenc... It looks like shooter was a female who is now deceased with 4 or 5 others injured.
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timkpaine 9y ago
Does anyone have some good statistics on school-shootings vs workplace shootings? I have to imagine the latter is far more prevalent than the former
dennisgorelik 9y ago
They allowed a surgeon (Andre Campbell [1]) to answer questions (as opposing to have a PR person to sanitize it): https://www.pscp.tv/w/1zqKVrbanRAKB https://www.pscp.tv/w/1zqKVrbanRAKB In this interview Andre Campbell: 1) Advertised his ("Zuckerberg") hospital capabilities (3 times). 2) Answered some tech/medical questions about the wounds/diagnostics. 3) Occasionally smiled [in response to reporters curiosity]. [1] https://surgery.ucsf.edu/faculty/general-surgery/andre-campbell,-md.aspx https://surgery.ucsf.edu/faculty/general-surgery/andre-campb...
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- baxtr 9y ago
  This is unbelievable. How can you advertise your hospital after such a tragedy?
  - dennisgorelik 9y ago
    That was a PR opportunity, so he used it. If he toned it down then such advertisement would be not even noticeable.
busterarm 9y ago
Not surprised that somebody who would do this: http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-peta-protests-militarys-use-pigs-training-2009aug13-htmlstory.html http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-peta-protests-milit... would someday become responsible for something violent towards a person or persons. Edit: I definitely support animal welfare, in particular, the Humane Society. PETA is its own brand of crazy though.

745 points by coloneltcb 9y ago

More information from local news: http://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/possible-active-shooter-at-youtube-in-san-bruno/1098585330 http://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/possible-active-shooter-a...

rokhayakebe 9y ago
Can you please remove this link. It seems it hijacks the browser session.
- paulcole 9y ago
  What do you mean by this? It's a link to a local news site.
  - myko 9y ago
    It looks like it may have a malicious ad or something. It takes over my entire session and says my bank information has been stolen. It locked up Chrome as well and I had to kill the process myself (on Windows).
    - calebh 9y ago
      I've had problems with malicious ads redirecting me lately. I began to suspect that my phone was infected, but it turns out that this is now a common occurrence: https://www.wired.com/story/pop-up-mobile-ads-surge-as-sites-scramble-to-stop-them/ https://www.wired.com/story/pop-up-mobile-ads-surge-as-sites... I don't know why the ad platforms even allow custom JavaScript...
      - jsgo 9y ago
        I don't even understand why governments haven't made a case of this generally speaking. If an ad network allows this kind of behavior, they can be blocked by countries. Sites won't want networks that can't serve traffic in as many countries as possible, so it should solve itself. And it isn't that far removed from what happened to Podesta or whatever. They could make it a case that it is important to the state.

jshap70 9y ago

Looks like he made it out ok https://twitter.com/Lavrusik/status/981263546460774400 https://twitter.com/Lavrusik/status/981263546460774400

Analemma_ 9y ago
Wow, gotta love the journalist asking him for an interview when he was still barricaded and hiding: https://twitter.com/NadineatABC/status/981261561057759232 https://twitter.com/NadineatABC/status/981261561057759232. That's not even bottom-feeding anymore, I don't think there's a word for whatever that is. (Edit: screenshot for when it is inevitably deleted: https://imgur.com/a/GEtR4 https://imgur.com/a/GEtR4)
- 7dare 9y ago
  Plus it's basically inviting anyone else to call in with fake information, pretending to having been there. Bad journalistic standards...
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- lainga 9y ago
  Same thing happened at Parkland, IIRC.
- Graffite 9y ago
  This isn't the first time she's done this: https://www.salon.com/2012/12/15/abc_producer_earns_internets_hate_for_tweeting_at_newtown_relatives/ https://www.salon.com/2012/12/15/abc_producer_earns_internet...
  - rmidthun 9y ago
    Warning: That link was replaced with a "your machine might be infected, call us now!" type scam.

minimaxir 9y ago

A good account from a YouTube PM: https://twitter.com/tdd/status/981262640830754817 https://twitter.com/tdd/status/981262640830754817

huac 9y ago
i liked the part where he called an uber to an active shooting scene
- izzygomez 9y ago
  We are all taking ubers/lyfts back home from a different Google building in the area per police/company protocol. Source: I'm a YT employee working out of 901 Cherry Ave.

sna1l 9y ago

Some live updates: https://twitter.com/erinjeanc https://twitter.com/erinjeanc

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fish2000 9y ago

Vice has it: https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/qvx3wp/active-shooter-reported-at-youtubes-headquarters-in-california?utm_source=vicetwitterus https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/qvx3wp/active-shooter-re...

RyanZAG 9y ago

Result of politicization of YouTube? They've been on a mission to block hateful content recently, and naturally you're going to have a number of damaged people posting such content. They should probably hire the relevant levels of security that a political organization would hire. Secret service aren't just for show, they're needed when things get political.

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ironjunkie 9y ago
too soon to speculate on anything.
- jerf 9y ago
  Absolutely. Someone's response to a high-stress work environment, an affair of the heart gone wrong, latent psychological issues... the "merely mundane" possibilities that could happen anywhere are still plenty realistic. Shit happens.
- RyanZAG 9y ago
  I guess I'm not so much speculating as calling on companies like Youtube to hire more protection for their staff. They're really putting themselves out there, and if this is or isn't somehow related to Youtube's business, they are eventually going to get hit. Read the comments on any of the interviews Youtube staff have done, and weep. My point was more: Youtube is taking remote action on people they don't know that can have life altering effects through their policies. The kind of content Youtube blocks is almost definitely created by at least a few damaged people. Eventually they are going to be the target of violence from such people. They need to be proactive and realize the risks they place their employees in simply by virtue of their scale and policy choices. And this goes for other similar companies too. Security for employees should be more of a priority than it is - their employees become public figures.
cinquemb 9y ago
Maybe the decoy buses angered some folks? Secret service? Might as well get the DoD to task some reapers for overwatch at all their corporate upstream collection facilities…

mattsfrey 9y ago

Pretty incredible to see people making jokes in response to the tweet literally in real time. Journalists trying to get him to call them and give updates. Our society is completely fucked.

ggregoire 9y ago
Pretty incredible to see as first response “If you had a gun may not need to hide”. From an European point of view.
- dguaraglia 9y ago
  From any point of view. This is beyond fucked.
  - dguaraglia 9y ago
    Nothing screams "free thinking" and "tolerant right wing" than an angry comment getting downvoted. Hacker News has become a Trumpbot playground.
- rmdashrfroot 9y ago
  Is it not true? What did they do in response to an active shooter? They called the police and SWAT -- people with guns.
  - toomuchtodo 9y ago
    > Is it not true? What did they do in response to an active shooter? They called the police and SWAT -- people with guns Qualified people with guns (ideally).
    - rmdashrfroot 9y ago
      America's obsession with credentials at its finest... these people are allowed to have guns because we say so, but no one else! (except those pesky criminals and shooters who don't abide by laws)

dmode 9y ago

Seems like live video here: https://www.pscp.tv/w/1jMJgqYERyPKL https://www.pscp.tv/w/1jMJgqYERyPKL

spullara 9y ago

Most specific stuff I have seen. https://twitter.com/mrwilltolive/status/981260734305918978?s=21 https://twitter.com/mrwilltolive/status/981260734305918978?s...

throwaway2016a 9y ago
That says "female shooter" but one of the other threads said "I looked right into his eyes" [1] It is probably too soon to get reliable information. [1] https://twitter.com/etharkamal/status/981264092899037185 https://twitter.com/etharkamal/status/981264092899037185
- rhcom2 9y ago
  Definitely. Nearly all lone shootings have reports of multiple gunmen because it is just so chaotic.
  - xxpor 9y ago
    https://www.wnyc.org/story/breakingnews-consumers-handbook/ https://www.wnyc.org/story/breakingnews-consumers-handbook/ The Breaking News Consumer's Handbook: Active Shooter Edition
  - greggarious 9y ago
    >Definitely. Nearly all lone shootings have reports of multiple gunmen because it is just so chaotic. For example at Columbine one of the shooters removed their trenchcoat, which when talking to victims briefly gave the impression of a 3rd shooter.
  - tehlike 9y ago
    It is also safer to assume multiple. You cannot be sure.
- anonfunction 9y ago
  There's another report that it was a man in full body armor: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZ4me3FX4AENDyG.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZ4me3FX4AENDyG.jpg

nerfhammer 9y ago

https://twitter.com/etharkamal/status/981264092899037185 https://twitter.com/etharkamal/status/981264092899037185

matte_black 9y ago
Reports of “guy in full body armor”. Keep this in mind later to see if it’s true. Usually it isn’t.
- stevenwoo 9y ago
  Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable and this sort of mistaken memory is to be expected. Wonder what that guy actually saw - just a bulky person or law enforcement or just repeating what someone else mistakenly thought they saw.

jen729w 9y ago

“Active shooter” is just the term used now? Does anyone know how that came to be? It sounds like a too-calm euphemism that an interest group thought up.

hellofunk 9y ago
It's an old term, nothing new.
dgritsko 9y ago
Pretty descriptive IMO. Do you have a better alternative in mind?
gkoberger 9y ago
There's a long Wikipedia article about it that's interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_shooter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_shooter But basically, it's a law enforcement term for someone looking to randomly kill as many people as possible, without a specific victim. So, no need for hysterics – it's just a police term.
- jen729w 9y ago
  Ah, cool. Thanks.
- oiannahahah 9y ago
  what hysterics?
  - gkoberger 9y ago
    That's a response to "It sounds like a too-calm euphemism that an interest group thought up."
shemnon42 9y ago
More progressive campuses use "Active Harmer" because it may be a crazy person with a machete instead of a gun. https://www.colorado.edu/today/2016/10/06/incident-terminology-what-active-harmer https://www.colorado.edu/today/2016/10/06/incident-terminolo... And in that case referred to in that story it was a crazy person with a machete.

tzakrajs 9y ago

Can we get any more detail on this from people over in San Bruno? Be safe! Thoughts are with you.

machinesmachine 9y ago
tweets man, nearly live feed, its scary
- isostatic 9y ago
  > its scary So is 'Saw'. Doesn't make it true.

ProfessorLayton 9y ago

This is crazy and I hope everyone is OK. Its worth pointing out that Snapchat's heat map is pretty useful for getting insights in situations like these.

robtaylor 9y ago
Which now has a web interface http://maps.snapchat.com http://maps.snapchat.com
- esnard 9y ago
  Direct link to YouTube HQ: https://map.snapchat.com/@37.627305,-122.424574,12.99z https://map.snapchat.com/@37.627305,-122.424574,12.99z
- samfisher83 9y ago
  Wow this is a killer feature. I never knew snap had this. Maybe it can replace twitter.
  - my_ghola 9y ago
    > this is a killer feature Too soon.
  - komali2 9y ago
    Here I thought snapchat was on the out - this feature alone absolutely dominates Periscope for me. I just had no idea it existed.
    - taternuts 9y ago
      That's one of the common complaints of snapchat. I'd bet most people that even use snapchat don't even know how to get to this feature in the app. It was released some time last year without much press (I think they did a self-snap story about it) and even took me a couple tries to figure out how to get there when I knew about it. There's literally no way of knowing that view exists without just knowing it or accidentally triggering it, and I didn't even know there was a web interface for it.

emilfihlman 9y ago

Wouldn't be surprised if it's because of the recent idiotic rules YouTube has started to impose on any gun content. Of course it doesn't help sway opinion but I can see how it could have triggered someone to act.

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canadianwriter 9y ago
Dude no, this isn't cool. Rethink how you react to this kind of stuff.
- emilfihlman 9y ago
  Wot? How is anything I say cool or require rethinking? YouTube recently introduced absolutely idiotic rules on gun related content. It's a major loss to a lot of people and practically zero gain for anyone else. This might have angered someone enough to take it out on YouTube.
  - tzakrajs 9y ago
    Baseless speculation is discouraged here.
    - GirlsCanCode 9y ago
      This entire thread is speculation.
  - Frondo 9y ago
    If some gun owner's response to a private corporation changing their rules for a free service they offer is to start shooting people, that's a really strong case for much tighter gun control. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    - emilfihlman 9y ago

sounds 9y ago

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pbalau 9y ago
Please remove this!

tedwasright 9y ago

They demonitized his videos so he demonitized their lives.

jrobn 9y ago

As a US citizen hearing about another mass shooting, I'm honestly not shocked. There will be more next month as well until eventually they will become the "price" of our great "freedom". Sickening. Edit: Not sure why people are down voting my comment. America has a gun violence problem[1]. [1] https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/2/16399418/us-gun-violence-statistics-maps-charts https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/2/16399418/u...

monochromatic 9y ago
Typical hoplophobe response.
- moate 9y ago
  I mean...if you're not afraid of weapons, the purpose of which is killing, you're probably doing it wrong.
  - monochromatic 9y ago
    If the purpose of guns is killing, I think mine are defective. They’ve never killed anybody!
    - jrobn 9y ago
      I find your assumption that my comment was anti-gun in anyway quite telling. I own guns myself. I do have a problem with people using them to kill people. America has a gun violence problem[1]. [1] https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/2/16399418/us-gun-violence-statistics-maps-charts https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/2/16399418/u...
    - InitialLastName 9y ago
      You've evidently just not been using them as intended.
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EngineerBetter 9y ago

I hope everyone is safe. Please, America: sort it out. Politics aside, it hurts to see this stuff happening again and again so needlessly.

oh_sigh 9y ago
Any ideas? Banning handguns and jilted lovers or angry people is a whole different ballgame than banning automatic weapons or the sort.
- DanBC 9y ago
  Any person who has a conviction for domestic assualt isn't allowed to own any type of gun Any person with TBI isn't allowed to own any type of gun Any person with drug or alcohol addiction isn't allowed to own any type of gun Those three things would cut down the numbers of these types of murders, which tend to be impulsive.
  - Cuuugi 9y ago
    I don't have a issue with the logic of your statements, however the implementation of them could be rather scary. Who is to say what a alcohol addiction entails? etc. etc.
    - DanBC 9y ago
      A litre of 40% ABV spirits per day, or equivalent. It's not that hard.
      - Cuuugi 9y ago
        Which then means you would have to register to buy alcohol. :S
  - oh_sigh 9y ago
    What percentage of gun murders are committed by people with TBI, domestic assault, or state-known drug or alcohol problems?

soperj 9y ago

I've said it on here before, I'll never live in the states just because of the gun culture, and have been told(on here) that you don't have to worry about it if you don't go into the wrong places. I don't understand how people can repeatedly say that when these things keep happening.

aianus 9y ago
"I will never fly on a plane. How can people keep flying when planes keep falling out of the sky every couple of months?"
- Avshalom 9y ago
  But, they don't fall out of the sky every couple months, Americans DO die from guns every couple minutes though.
  - lopmotr 9y ago
    Planes absolutely do crash every couple of months, much more if you count private planes. Just like guns, you have to keep away from the "wrong places" to be safe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incidents_involving_commercial_aircraft#2017 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incident...
    - res0nat0r 9y ago
      ...like your corporate office job at YouTube?
  - thousandautumns 9y ago
    Planes do fall out of the sky every couple months, especially when you consider small planes and non-commercial flights. Additionally, the gun deaths statistic is cherry picked. Two-thirds of those gun deaths are from suicide. Also, the overwhelming majority of those who die in gun related homicides are poor minorities, highly concentrated in poor communities, and tend to occur between people who know each other, rather than random deaths. Does America have a gun violence problem? Yes. Are guns a reason to be concerned for the average American, or someone like yourself who would move here? Not even remotely.

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m0meni 9y ago

Youtube recently introduced restrictions on videos promoting firearms: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/03/youtube-to-crack-down-harder-on-videos-about-building-buying-firearms/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/03/youtu... Edit: Just a topical article...not attempting to tie the two events together.

lainga 9y ago
I would hesitate before immediately associating the two events, however, just as Remington's recent bankruptcy followed (but was not caused by) the Parkland shootings.
- m0meni 9y ago
  Just thought it was topical. Associating the two events so soon would be a stretch.
oh-kumudo 9y ago
This feels like a political retaliation.
- ajkjk 9y ago
  No it doesn't, there's no information about it available yet.
russdill 9y ago
It's really hard to make a guess on this one, workplace shootings by disgruntled employees or domestic causes are just so common.
- russdill 9y ago
  https://www.thedailybeast.com/official-woman-shot-boyfriend-at-youtube-hq https://www.thedailybeast.com/official-woman-shot-boyfriend-...
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notafxn 9y ago

And it's a woman! I like the efforts YouTube makes for diversity.

pbalau 9y ago
How the fuck do you know this? Stop spreading rumors. Please delete
- notafxn 9y ago
  http://abc7news.com/watch-live-shooting-investigated-at-youtube-headquarters-in-san-bruno/3297411/ http://abc7news.com/watch-live-shooting-investigated-at-yout... >Another law enforcement source confirms to ABC7 News reporter Dan Noyes that the shooter is a white, adult female wearing a dark top and head scarf. Please delete yourself.
sctb 9y ago
We've banned this account.

pmcgrathm 9y ago

Per a SWAT officer - his team has not been activated, which means the situation is under control. Apparently an attempted murder/suicide. Female shooter. 10-20 shots fired and multiple people being treated for gunshot wounds. No news as to what happened to the shooter.

pmcgrathm 9y ago
Shooter w/ self-inflicted gunshot wound to the chest. Handgun pulled out of purse.
- fmihaila 9y ago
  I think that under the circumstances links/citations are required. False rumours are rampant and it's too easy to contribute to their spread (even unwittingly).
  - aliljet 9y ago
    Strongly agreed. Citation or it's just a rumor.
    - JeremyBanks 9y ago
      [deleted, not worth it]
      - aliljet 9y ago
        To be clear, this is an extreme circumstance where people hunting for an explanation could easily gravitate toward misinformation is a uniquely destructive way. So, sure, I don't have a reason to suspect OP is a liar; I have a reason to suspect that all information right now is likely untrue unless confirmed otherwise.
      - untog 9y ago
        This three-year-old account might believe this to be absolutely true, because they were told it by someone they trust. And that person was told it by someone they trust. And so on, through dozens of people if not more, and all it takes is one person in the chain to start exaggerating/fabricating information and everyone is forwarding false information. > this is as credible as anything else we're hearing. You're right there. And that's the point: nothing we are hearing is credible. Treat it as such.

sjs382 9y ago

Remember the Breaking News Consumer's Handbook from WNYC's On The Media: https://www.wnyc.org/story/breaking-news-consumers-handbook-pdf/ https://www.wnyc.org/story/breaking-news-consumers-handbook-... 1. In the immediate aftermath, news outlets will get it wrong. 2. Don't trust anonymous sources. 3. Don't trust stories that cite another news outlet as the source of the information. 4. There's almost never a second shooter. 5. Pay attention to the language the media uses. • “We are getting reports”… could mean anything. • “We are seeking confirmation”… means they don’t have it. • “[News outlet] has learned”… means it has a scoop or is going out on limb. 6. Look for news outlets close to the incident. 7. Compare multiple sources. 8. Big news brings out the fakers. And photoshoppers. 9. Beware reflexive retweeting. Some of this is on you.

jdoliner 9y ago
This isn't limited to the immediate aftermath either. I recently learned that almost everything I thought I knew about the Columbine shooting was actually not true. The narrative of a shooting quickly takes on a life of its own.
- nicolapede 9y ago
  Would you mind elaborating a little on the Columbine shooting and where to look for trustworthy reconstruction of the event?
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  - jdoliner 9y ago
    Sure, let me first say though that there's so much misinformation surrounding that particular event that I'm not really willing to 100% trust anything at this point. I'm always ready to find out what I think I know about the event is actually wrong. That being said here were the major things I used to think were true that I don't anymore: - The shooters were not in The Trenchcoat Mafia (TCM). TCM was a thing that some of their classmates used to refer to themselves. Dylan and Eric were never closely associated with it. The coats they wore during the shooting weren't even trenchcoats, they were dusters. - They weren't outcasts, and the shooting was revenge against the popular kids. They weren't the most popular kids in school either but that had fairly normal social lives, went to parties on the weekend. If I recall correctly prom had been a few weeks before the shooting and both had gone, with dates. - The infamous exchange in which they asked a classmate if she believed in god and then shot her when she responded "yes" never happened. This source seems pretty good: https://www.policeone.com/school-violence/articles/1228405-The-Columbine-High-School-Incident-Fact-and-Fiction/ https://www.policeone.com/school-violence/articles/1228405-T... I first found out about it from this podcast: http://www.socialmatter.net/2017/05/12/myth-20th-century-episode-18-columbine-culture-violence/ http://www.socialmatter.net/2017/05/12/myth-20th-century-epi...

rwhitman 9y ago

Live feed on CBS: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-respond-youtube-possible-shooter-today-2018-04-03-live-updates/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-respond-youtube-possible...

oh-kumudo 9y ago

Stay safe people! You life matters, don't listen to those vile political trolls that couldn't contain themselves to inject their own agenda into this tragedy.

goldenkey 9y ago

If you work at an office or startup, I recommend purchasing a few fire extinguisher style 1-5 pound pepper spray units. They have ridiculously long range, up to 25 feet. Could save you and your teammates lives. Here's an Amazon link to the one my cubicle is stocked with: https://amzn.to/2q1F6US https://amzn.to/2q1F6US

morsch 9y ago
I recommend getting an actual fire extinguisher, it's more likely to safe your and your teammates lives.
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kettlecorn 9y ago
This seems like a rather poor time to opportunistically comment with your own affiliate links.
- goldenkey 9y ago
  How is a shortened link an affiliate link?
  - kettlecorn 9y ago
    Your shortened link is an affiliate link. The shortened URL you linked expands to the following, the italicized part is your affiliate tag: mazon.com/SABRE-Red-Pepper-Gel-Strength/dp/B002368VJ6/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&qid=1522790270&sr=8-6&keywords=pepper+spray+pistol+grip&linkCode=sl1&tag= detailpage00 -20&linkId=b202e58be12cb5fc5ac7c02da0965cd3

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dkoubsky 9y ago

The police have held a press conference. https://twitter.com/search?q=san%20bruno%20press%20conference&src=typd https://twitter.com/search?q=san%20bruno%20press%20conferenc... It looks like shooter was a female who is now deceased with 4 or 5 others injured.

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timkpaine 9y ago

Does anyone have some good statistics on school-shootings vs workplace shootings? I have to imagine the latter is far more prevalent than the former

dennisgorelik 9y ago

They allowed a surgeon (Andre Campbell [1]) to answer questions (as opposing to have a PR person to sanitize it): https://www.pscp.tv/w/1zqKVrbanRAKB https://www.pscp.tv/w/1zqKVrbanRAKB In this interview Andre Campbell: 1) Advertised his ("Zuckerberg") hospital capabilities (3 times). 2) Answered some tech/medical questions about the wounds/diagnostics. 3) Occasionally smiled [in response to reporters curiosity]. [1] https://surgery.ucsf.edu/faculty/general-surgery/andre-campbell,-md.aspx https://surgery.ucsf.edu/faculty/general-surgery/andre-campb...

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baxtr 9y ago
This is unbelievable. How can you advertise your hospital after such a tragedy?
- dennisgorelik 9y ago
  That was a PR opportunity, so he used it. If he toned it down then such advertisement would be not even noticeable.

busterarm 9y ago

Not surprised that somebody who would do this: http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-peta-protests-militarys-use-pigs-training-2009aug13-htmlstory.html http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-peta-protests-milit... would someday become responsible for something violent towards a person or persons. Edit: I definitely support animal welfare, in particular, the Humane Society. PETA is its own brand of crazy though.