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US committee votes $30,000 increase in minimum salary of H1B visa workers
- zxcvvcxz 9y agoThe one thing Silicon Valley loves about Trump ;)
- meri_dian 9y agoWhen protectionism affects them, they empathize with Trump's agenda, but anyone else who supports protectionism is called names and ridiculed. "Those damn hicks, they're so selfish and backwards, and quite possibly racist... ...ah yes but let's cut down on the foreign IT workers bringing down my own salary"
- GhostVII 9y agoWhy would people in Silicon Valley care about this change? Pretty much every software developer in SV makes over 90k.
- bonzini 9y agoExactly. Because they make over 90k, they might now have a chance to hire skilled foreigners under H1B for the same wage. Instead, the consultancy companies would have to raise their wages by 30k if they wanted to keep on submitting tens of thousands of H1B applications.
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- blusterXY 9y agoThe original headline is written by someone with an axe to grind, because this change does not hurt Indian IT professionals at all. Restrictions on importing low-cost labor will raise wages for workers in India. The restrictions will also raise wages in the United States for obvious reasons as well.
- olympus 9y agoWill it really? I'm not saying you're definitely wrong, but I can also see an argument that fewer Indian IT workers in the USA means that more IT workers will stay in India and look for jobs. More job seekers could drive wages down, even while the Indian companies are getting higher skilled workers.
- noitsnot 9y agoThere's a reason they flock over. Millions of engineers can't find jobs in India. Less than 10 percent of graduates are employed because there are too many schools and they pump out low-quality students. Combine this with the fact that there is a very severe shortage of jobs.
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- yazaddaruvala 9y agoI am Canadian and I've worked in tech in the USA for the last 5 years. I wish they made getting an H1B even harder to get.
- trishume 9y agoI don't see how that makes sense. Presumably if you've worked in the US for 5 years you'd like to stay there. Canadians often try for an H1B while they are on a TN because with an H1B you get immigrant intent and can apply for a green card. Canadians still have it easier since you can work on a TN and try the lottery many times.
- jpollock 9y agoThe number of attempts to get on an H1-B is now exceeding the validity period of the initial TN visa, increasing the probability the TN will be rejected at the border. Immigration is starting to reject renewals - ref Canadian nurses working in Detroit [1]. I have family members who are being refused TNs. Personally, I get worried crossing the border and I'm on an H1-B. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/canadian-nurses-working-in-us-rejected-1.4026554 http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/canadian-nurses-workin...
- znpy 9y agoCan you elaborate on that?
- olympus 9y agoNot GP, but presumably making an H1B harder to get would decrease yazaddaruvala's competition for a job. I'll admit that this next thought is racist, but I think a lot of companies would prefer hiring a Canadian over someone from another country (assuming they have the same skill). Canada has a very similar culture to the USA and they usually speak English as their mother tongue.
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- WalterBright 9y agoThe mistake with this bill is it assumes that tech workers excluded from the US will just disappear. They won't. They'll set up shop in other countries, and those companies will compete with US companies. It will also encourage larger US companies to set up dev offices in foreign countries. One way or another, those workers will be competing with US workers regardless.
- maxxxxx 9y agoThe US will do fine without cheap labor from Infosys and others. These people aren't top developers
- comments_db 9y agoAnd you think you are? Please remember - for every so-so developer from Infosys and Co., there's a mediocre sore losers like yourself, who would get thrashed in a globally competitive market.
- skellera 9y agoThat’s the right attitude to have. Your argument would hold more weight if you actually gave a counterpoint instead of attacking someone you don’t even know.
- dang 9y agoPersonal attacks will get you banned here. Just because someone else posts a bad comment doesn't mean it's ok for you to post a bad one, let alone one like this, which is the sort of thing we ban people for. Please don't do this again.
- dang 9y agoCould you please not post unsupported generalizations that put other people down? Assuming you're right doesn't make this a substantive HN comment, or a good one, and the last thing we need is more flamebait on inflammatory topics.
- mlamat 9y agoWho said Trump doesn't deliver? There never was a skill shortage. Only a pay shortage.
- flatline 9y agoDeliver on a promise to curb foreign competition on American soil and forward a protectionist agenda? I see this move as accomplishing the opposite of the stated goal, or at least being a wash with respect to it. Not that I’m complaining, but I’m sure even a despot would do some things we all nominally agreed with. There can be little doubt that Trump has been slowed in implementing his agenda by a lack of either familiarity or willingness to work with the bureaucracy in Washington.
- theWatcher37 9y agoIf by “competition” you mean pseudo-moralist corporate agenda designed to suppress wages for engineers and developers. Wages have been FLAT vs rising inflation for ages, mostly due to labor over-supply.
- flatline 9y agoI only see an overall labor shortage in tech fields. I’ve never heard of even mediocre developers having trouble finding work, except for a brief period in the early 2000s. I think wage suppression is only contributed to in very small part by the oft-exploited labor coming here from overseas on the H1-B and similar programs. I see this as trying to make the program function more according to its stated intention and bring in skilled labor.
- jrs95 9y agoIt's the mediocre developers or developers in areas where the overwhelming majority of the jobs are mediocre that are hurt by this. Generally speaking they're not being replaced with better workers, they're being replaced with cheaper foreign mediocre workers.
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- trishume 9y agoRegardless of whether or not you think the bill is a good idea, I don't think the opponents arguments against it quoted make sense. As long as the new minimum still clears the market and all spaces are still filled (I think they would be), all this bill does is replace the pool of H1-B visas awarded with a higher-paying one. The quote "It also could disrupt the marketplace, threaten thousands of US jobs, and stifle US innovation" would only make sense if one would expect that lower-paid workers on average contribute more to US innovation, and are less likely to displace Americans. I would predict the opposite, or at least no effect. One might hope that the people companies are willing to pay top dollar for are the higher skilled ones that companies have trouble hiring enough of in the US. It's interesting that the bill is a half-measure in that it doesn't take the idea to its logical conclusion and eliminate the lottery and sort applications by salary and take the top N, but I imagine that would be politically unpopular. I think you could possibly argue against this bill perhaps for some kind of fairness reasons, but I think the arguments quoted don't make sense.
- jrs95 9y agoThere's basically no way it threatens U.S. innovation because underpaid H1B workers are mostly at banks, insurance companies, etc. Maintenance engineers, or hardly anyone for that matter, at massive corporations aren't exactly doing a lot of innovation.
- tedmiston 9y agoI'm not super familiar with how pay for H1Bs compares to citizens. It would be interesting to see some data around this.
- jrs95 9y agoMy understanding of this is that it's not much lower than other entry level pay, but they tend to get no raises or smaller raises because their immigration status is tied to their current employment so they can't easily switch jobs. Often times low cost H1B workers have been used to replace more senior people too. There was a big wave of this around the time of the last recession as a cost savings measure. I'm not super familiar with data on the topic though, that would definitely be nice to see.
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- zjaffee 9y agoThis is a good thing, but mostly because it will help those who went to school in the united states, and struggled to win the H1B lottery during their time under F1 yet are able to command salaries well over the new 90k minimum.
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- hknecht 9y agoRestricts the use of H1B to target more competent - and sought after - talent. It's a good move; import talent when it makes an impact
- conanbatt 9y agoIt always makes an impact. These are voluntary arrangements, both parties think they win doing them, even though the processing costs are in the 10k's of thousands!
- justboxing 9y ago> move to harm Indian IT professionals Title of the story linked-to is quite sensational. I'm not a fan of the current administration at all, but as a former (Indian) H1-B visa holder myself, I welcome this move. It's clearly aimed at the top 10 H1-B visa abusers, almost all Indian Companies - think Tata Consultancy Services, Cognizant Technologies, Wipro, Tech Manhindra etc - who grossly underpay the Indian software engineers and abuse H1-B visa program. Now these crooks won't be able to file Labor Certificate applications with very low prevailing wages, and I think this will help real startups and software companies everywhere in the US, who can't find top engineers in US for new technologies, hire people from Europe, Asia and other parts of the world who are qualified, and not just from India. Code-monkey Indians and the companies that try to bring them in on low wages will automatically get filtered out.
- conanbatt 9y ago> H1-B visa abusers What is a visa abuser. What a ridiculous term. If the limit of visas was tripled then there would not even be a concept of "visa abuser". Crooks? The crooks sir are on the other side of the table, that feel powerful enough to tell people all both within and outside the country that they have the right to tell them where they are allowed to go.
- jimbobimbo 9y agoHow else would you call companies that take the majority of all H1-Bs issued, then turn around and resell newly minted immigrants' services to other companies? There're a lot of companies of different sizes that legitimately bring foreigners to fill the gaps not filled by local workforce, but bodyshops named in GP's post aren't those companies.
- conanbatt 9y agoI could call them victims of a perverse system, one not designed nor controlled by them, much like the people left out because of imaginary quotas.
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- jorblumesea 9y agoThis is a good thing for just about everyone except for Infosys and Cognizant and the like. I really hate how close the H1B program comes to indentured servitude, feels extremely unfair and imbalanced.
- tankenmate 9y agoOne bright spot for workers from Infosys et al that survive this change is that now they can look forward to a 50% raise for their servitude. Compared to most wages in India working for USD90k for a few years under onerous conditions might be palatable (definitely much more so than USD60k). Added that this bill closes the loopholes for replacing local US workers mean that for a greater number of workers this is a much better situation.
- nonamechicken 9y agoThe Infosys H1Bs who will survive this change are already getting $70-75k.
- tankenmate 9y agoGood point.
- conanbatt 9y ago> I really hate how close the H1B program comes to indentured servitude, feels extremely unfair and imbalanced. All rules imposed by the government, not by Infosys and Cognizant. If those two companies can no longer hire these indian developers, then the indian developers will suffer along with Infosys and Cog.
- Antrikshy 9y agoAs someone on H-1B, but NOT employed by one of these low-paying consultancy firms, can't these employees find a new employer in the US and switch over? H-1B doesn't prohibit that. That is, unless most of these workers are not skilled enough to find alternative jobs easily...
- mrtksn 9y agoI wonder what would be the impact these artificially determined salaries. I would have loved to see some de-regulation in the employment effectively removing the reasons of foreign talent being lock in to a company, thus not having a negotiation power which results in lower salaries. In my opinion nationality based employment opportunity differences are no different to race or gender based ones. Don't get me wrong, I actually don't advocate global free movement of labour, I just highly dislike artificial ways like salary caps or employer lock ins to manage it.
- comments_db 9y agoI've responded to similar articles in the past. I welcome this motion. Only thing that bothers me is the fact why it was not enforced earlier. I'm a H1B holder and I support this move.
- ny2ko 9y agoFrom my reading I can't tell if this bill is solely limited to tech applications. The usual qualm with this debate is that the H1-B usage extends far beyond tech and while this increase wouldn't really matter for tech workers, it will make a huge impact on other industries/people where 90k isn't the norm as in tech
- 0xbear 9y agoSet the minimum to 100k at least. Help US grads get started in the field.
- nmstoker 9y agoDespite the headline, this will benefit smarter Indian workers who are currently undercut by the less skilled $60k ones
- outside1234 9y agoThis raises a pretty interesting idea: Why don't we cap the number of H1-B slots at N and let companies bid for how much they would pay the employees with the top N bids being accepted?
- conanbatt 9y agoWhy doesnt the us just not limit it at all, and stop spending money and resources on playing a lottery game with people's lives.
- traek 9y agoBecause the US, like most other countries, has decided for various reasons that unlimited immigration is not a goal of visa legislation.
- conanbatt 9y agoYou would be surprised to find many immigration visas that have no limits then.
- brianwawok 9y agoWhat country or city do you live in? I am sure we can find an armchair policy we should make to help everyone else that you can foot.
- conanbatt 9y agoWill an answer to that question completely change your mind? Also, you imply that immigration restrictions decrease cost, but it's quite the other way around.
- brianwawok 9y agoAn answer to that question will allow me to offer a token suggestion that may make OP reconsider his stance ;) immigration restrictions raise salary for people like me, citizens. Most countries have some form of immigration restriction for similar reasons.
- conanbatt 9y agoA simple rule change that will appease the nationalistic desires of software engineers while reducing the harm to strong lobby big-shot companies like facebook/google/amazon.
- hourislate 9y agoI have seen companies in DFW hire what seems like 1000's of H1B's and offer to work on their Green cards. These aren't highly skilled jobs, these are jobs that would typically pay more than the 50k that companies are using H1B's so they can pay less. The New Toyota HQ in Plano has more Indians and H1B's than US employees from what I heard. There are many more like them that I won't mention. India is exporting it's poverty all over the world and taking advantage of the US.
- conanbatt 9y agoExporting poverty? Ludicrous!
- sctb 9y agoYou can please just leave out the last line, which is uncivil and violates the guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- hourislate 9y agoI don't feel like I violated any guidelines. I just basically spoke the truth which might be hard for some to accept. We can't all just close our eyes and let them keep coming here and taking jobs that pay 30%-40% of what a fellow US employee gets payed. Just look at Sabre Systems, Toyota, etc in the DFW area. There are more Indian employees now on H1B visa's than there are American employees. It's in the 1000's and I'm not kidding all because they can work them like dogs and threaten to fire them at any moment and pay the what a office admin would earn. How does this benefit the USA other than decreasing labor costs for corporations at the expense of American jobs. I would like to scrap the whole H1B program all together, it would only be good for American Employees.
- conanbatt 9y agoExporting poverty? Ludicrous! What an insane proposition. Its exporting its labor, and us is buying it. And its a better price for both the US and for the Indian person to bring the labor into the US than to keep it there or not have it at all.
- virtuabhi 9y agoMore news on this topic - Administration to wipe out work permits for H-1B spouses http://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/Trump-administration-has-plans-to-wipe-out-work-12366124.php http://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/Trump-administra...
- conanbatt 9y agoThis is terrible!
- uiri 9y agoThis isn't a minimum in the salary of H1B workers. The current "minimum" is $60k. It is perfectly possible to hire employees on an H1B under that limit, you (as an employer) will simply be under more scrutiny. It relates to H1Bs that are contracted out to other employers where those H1Bs are at least 15% (slightly higher thresholds for employers with under 51 employees) of an employer's workforce. They are colloquially known as Body Shops. The legislation as it stands allows the DoJ and DoL to investigate/prosecute these employers unless the employee makes a certain minimum salary OR has a masters degree. This is a good thing since it specifically targets the abusers of the H1B program while leaving most employers alone. The minimum salary will go up to $90k and the threshold will go up from 15% to 20%.
- tedmiston 9y agoAre you saying that having a master's degree removes the minimum salary requirement? That seems odd.
- uiri 9y agoYes, it does. It allows body shops to import tons of Indian-educated masters degree holders at $40-50k a year and then bill them out to other companies at much higher rates. The proposed bill removes this too.
- bradleyjg 9y agoThe headline and lede don't accurately portray proposed changes. You need to go down a few paragraphs to find this: " The bill prohibits H-1B dependent employers from replacing American workers with H-1B employees, there are no longer any exceptions. It also lengthens the no-layoff policy for H-1B dependent employers and their client companies for as long an H-1B employee works at the company, which means they cannot layoff equivalent US workers. For H-1B dependent employers to be exempted from the requirement that US workers be recruited first, the Protect and Grow American Jobs Act dramatically increases the salary requirements for H-1B workers. "They must pay the lower of USD 135,000 which is indexed for inflation or the average wage for the occupation in the area of employment, but with a floor of USD 90,000," said a media release issued by the House Judiciary Committee." This proposed changes would only apply to H1B dependent employers, which are employers with 15% or more of their workforce on H1Bs. Furthermore, there isn't currently and won't be if the proposed language becomes law, any minimum salary for H1B visa workers. Instead the salary mentioned acts as a safe harbor for H1B dependent employers to avoid certain steps they'd otherwise have to take in order to file additional H1B employee petitions beyond the 15% level.
- checker659 9y agohttps://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/170 https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/170 So now you can be a high school graduate but if you earn 135k or higher, you are eligible for an H1B? Am I reading that right? Also, would this affect (say) a postdoc virologist in Ohio trying to get an H1B? Or is this just for programmers in Silicon Valley?
- tryingagainbro 9y agoif you do the job...you do the job. Market decides
- tryingagainbro 9y agoBrilliant! If you really need foreign workers because you can't find them in USA, they must so good, so special and deserving way more than $60k.
- conanbatt 9y agoYes, Brilliant. Take a pool of talent that is available, and make up rules on how to limit it. What a sophisticated thought it is to find novel and different ways to hurt yourself.
- tryingagainbro 9y agoOh yeah, let's bring every programmer from India /China in USA at $30k a year so companies pay less US programmers and fire 30+ year old ones. Bring in the best only, and $90k is a good salary requirement
- conanbatt 9y agoJust to scale your point: do you advocate for, for example, never importing iphones? That they should be made in the U.S? Because making the iPhones abroad takes jobs from americans and lowers their wages. You wouldnt want 30k a year chinese people taking jobs from Americans would you.
- tryingagainbro 9y agoiPhone costs, say $800 on average. How much of it is in assembling it ....? USA can and should tax the rest.
- xchaotic 9y agoThe weird part is that even with higher salary, I wouldn't recommend people to go on h1b. Job flexibility, healthcare, work/life balance all sacrificed in the name of workin in America!
- Antrikshy 9y agoThis is a blanket statement. You seem to have a very distorted view of the situation. Working on H-1B does not equate any of this automatically.
- baybal2 9y agoI was thinking about taking a job in US many many many times, but I was always deterred by the prospective of becoming a US taxpayer for life and fear of overzealous tax enforcement
- pkaye 9y agoThat concern is really only for US citizens.
- baybal2 9y agoIRS has a history of going after permanent residents, and even people who came to US for seasonal work
- pkaye 9y agoBut obviously if you came to work in the US, you are subject to their taxes. But and once they leave and all taxes are resolved, they should not be subject to it any further.
- baybal2 9y agoThat is obvious, the thing is that in America a "permanent resident" and "permanent resident for tax purposes" are two different things, and IRS does bestow the second status quite liberally, and once you are deemed a tax resident, it is hard to get rid of that status even long after you left the coutry.
- shadowtree 9y agoThis, together with the proposed new tax laws for graduate students (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/16/opinion/house-tax-bill-graduate-students.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/16/opinion/house-tax-bill-gr...), will slowly erode the status of the US in tech and science. Which is fine if you follow history and just accept the rise and fall of empires. There aren't enough CS grads in the US to fill the demand as education is so crazy expensive. Foreigners have skewed the system since forever, see all the 1st generation founders. The constant feed of well-educated foreigners to the US is coming to an end. Someone else will collect that talent. Whoever that is will dominate. Tencent passing FB in market value should be a big clue where we're heading.
- pkaye 9y agoOnly now we will start draining engineers worth atleast $90K from other countries. In SV $90K can be considered a starting salary.
- 2_listerine_pls 9y agoThey will be the same engineers.
- tedmiston 9y ago> There aren't enough CS grads in the US to fill the demand as education is so crazy expensive. There aren't enough CS grads sure, but I don't think the price of education is the reason. A CS degree costs the same as any other bachelor's and there are plenty of grads with business or liberal arts degrees. A much bigger factor I think is that CS, engineering, the sciences, etc are hard, challenging fields.
- dgudkov 9y agoThis may boost immigration to Canada which doesn't have an equivalent threshold.
- fencepost 9y agoI see some folks saying "IT workers don't have a problem finding jobs anyway," but it feels like at least once a week I see articles on ageism in tech come through here. If this actually makes it through and becomes law, I'm curious about the possible impact on those older workers. Since in some cases it seems like those older workers are back in the job hunt because of companies closing up their in-house IT in favor of outsourced contracts, this seems like it might be directly applicable at least there.
- woopwoop 9y agoAs long as H1-B Visa holders cannot change jobs once they get here, they will be underpaid and overworked, and will create distortions in the American labor market. I would say the obvious fix is to untether the H1-B from the Visa holder's employer. Just let people bid for the H1-B's, and give the Visas out to the highest bidders. Preferably many, many more than we give out currently.
- acchow 9y ago> As long as H1-B Visa holders cannot change jobs once they get here, they will be underpaid and overworked you can change jobs on an h1-b.
- woopwoop 9y agoMy impression was this was basically not true, that it is very difficult for an H1-B Visa holder to leave their sponsoring employer. According to Wikipedia, "If a foreign worker in H-1B status quits or is dismissed from the sponsoring employer, the worker must either apply for and be granted a change of status, find another employer (subject to application for adjustment of status and/or change of visa), or leave the United States."
- pkaye 9y agoIf they have a new job offer, it is not difficult to change. I've known quite a few people who interviewed one week and just moved to the new job. Their employer has legal staff to take care of the paperwork.
- Antrikshy 9y agoPeople on H-1B move companies all the time. The new employer simply has to file for a new H-1B visa that is not cap-exempt and is not subject to any lottery this time around. As soon as the documentation is filed (even before approval), the employee can start working for the new employer.
- conanbatt 9y agoIt is notoriously different. Not to mention that if you want to stop working to do proper job shopping, thats not an option. Absudity by the reverse: if it is not problem, how about a law that makes it equally cumbersome for visa holders and americans to make jobs. It can't possible harm americans, and it will satisfy the irrational demands of those that see a difference.
- partycoder 9y agoIf anything, the US was very indulging with companies like Infosys, that were found deliberately cheating in their applications (e.g: submitting the same applicant multiple times). Then, some Infosys employees report that they do not receive the minimum H-1B salary in practice, and that they're forced to give their tax return money back to their employer. I do not know if these reports are true, but I think they should be aggressively audited. To that you need to add that the Infosys business culture, as reported by their own employees, is not the kind of business culture you want to assimilate. Then, if there are more applicants than spots, naturally the US could rank them and pick the best.
- neokrish 9y agoAs an Indian who had a very high paying job but lost out to the lottery and had to return to India, I welcome this bill. As someone else in this thread mentioned, this bill only gets half the way, they should remove the lottery and pick from the pool sorted by salary. The current combination of limited retraining of unemployed American labor pool and exploited workers by Indian consulting firms is exacerbating the populism and rightly so. I’m not against my fellow countrymen, I’m against the companies and the management that have failed to balance their own activities and abused the system. Indian government doesn’t want this to happen of course, as they’ll have a pool of unemployed population within the country. This would’ve been fine if this pool would’ve been uneducated, but an educated pool that can’t find jobs in the market will focus its sights on the government and demand changes. All in all, much needed change that unfortunately had to be delivered as a shock to the system and at the hands of a mostly incompetent president.
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- keerthiko 9y agoRegarding the "stifles US innovation" -- I see many people refuting this. Having the salary cutoff be a hard requirement of the H1B visa most certainly stifles innovation. There isn't an effective visa that allows a tech innovator to bootstrap a company in the US. I can get my company to ramen profitability with minimal funding, but I cannot sponsor my own visa because my startup coffers can't afford to pay a founder-coder $150,000 salary. If you don't have multiple advanced degrees or a magical track record of successful companies or something, you can't get an O1 visa. You have to waste a bunch of time and money daisy-chaining educational visas and associated work authorization from cheap community colleges until you get your company established. We all know building a sustainable product and company is hard enough without arbitrary obstacle courses to waste your time on. Having experienced this first-hand, as a cofounder who had to leave the country for 2 years and work remote until we had gained enough recognition and a warchest to justify an O1 visa for me. I'm not saying the solution is to ignore payscale for H1B's, but until there's a more appropriate visa for an entrepreneur (which by definition has to have simple initial requirements, low cost and reliable success, maybe with down-the-line auditing for extensions), it would be certainly help innovation if the H1-B weren't denied to all the international bootstrapped company founders.
- davidgh 9y agoCan I ask - what’s the motivation to locate yourself in the US while you bootstrap your startup? Is it that you need the US presence to be closer to customers or partners, establish some type of perceived legitimacy, prepare yourself to bring on investors in the US, or perhaps something else?
- keerthiko 9y agoI have spent a third of my life here now, grew all my professional connections (and closest friendships) here, understand the market spaces here better, and also just like to live here. My company's product primarily targets the US market and distance makes me lose context. My cofounders are American and live here, and while we are remote friendly since we don't even have an office (I mean I did it for two years), I want remote work to be an option, not forced upon me. The bandwidth of in person co-working sessions and convenience of time zones and meeting up with an hour's notice is obvious. But from a personal perspective, that this is where I grew into a professional adult and where I want to continue my career is more than enough reason.
- dennisgorelik 9y agoIt would be better to remove H1b quota, but considering that US voters in aggregate do not want that, replacing lower-paid H1b workers with higher-paid H1b workers is the logical choice. At least it may help to eliminate H1b lottery and make H1b processing more predictable.
- smb06 9y agoI graduated from Purdue in Indiana and I'm on an H1B visa. A lot of international students graduating from U.S. universities in the Midwest get jobs in those markets instead of Bay Area/NYC. This basically means no jobs for graduating international students in places like Indiana.
- p1oauth1p 9y agoThis move more or less will increase outsourcing or offshore dev centers. And only real high and good quality work is done in US. Long term this may impact US when offshore dev centers slowly catch up.