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Firefox 57.0 Released

• leadingthenet 9y ago
  Previous discussion about performance improvements can be found here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15686653 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15686653
• godzillabrennus 9y ago
  This is exciting! Glad to see Google Chrome has competition.
• illamea85 9y ago
  Loaded with Cliqz trojan horse!
• DC-3 9y ago
  Congratulations to the developers on an important release.
• bobajeff 9y ago
  I wonder when the Android version of Firefox will be updated to 57.
  • neilsimp1 9y ago
    Wondering this too
  • Vinnl 9y ago
    Probably today as well, but it won't see the massive speedup desktop Firefox has seen yet - that should come with one of the next few releases.
  • blinkingled 9y ago
    It generally takes them a while. If you're impatient you can try out the beta from play store - it's at b15 which is very close to the release version and it's working good for me on couple devices. Much better than the older versions that's for sure.
  • bryanlarsen 9y ago
    Android will get Quantum with 58, in approximately 6 weeks time. https://www.ghacks.net/2017/10/31/firefox-58-for-android-enable-quantum-css-engine/ https://www.ghacks.net/2017/10/31/firefox-58-for-android-ena... But even without Quantum Firefox on Android is way faster than Chrome because it supports ad blocking plugins.
    • mtgx 9y ago
      Yeah, I can't wait for FF58 on Android. TBH FF on Android has felt a little choppy, even with ublock origin enabled. The Chromium-based Firefox Focus feels faster, but too bad it doesn't support extensions. Hopefully FF58 will be the best of both worlds on Android soon.
      • floatboth 9y ago
        Don't wait, use Nightly! :)
      • bryanlarsen 9y ago
        It feels choppy, so it feels slower, even though it renders pages faster because it's not downloading and rendering ads. A great example of how feel matters.
        • sp332 9y ago
          I agree 100%. I ended up disabling my adblocker on twitter.com just because it was causing so much jank while I was scrolling.
      • option_greek 9y ago
        Any idea how to make firefox focus forget google search history. Its kind of pointless to forget regular browsing history but keep search history around. Open for any workarounds because FFF is quite fast when compared with regular FF.
      • chrisper 9y ago
        I am curios. Are you using FF Beta on Android or regular FF?
  • jhasse 9y ago
    The thing that makes Firefox on Android unuseable for me: URLs which should be handled by apps (e.g. youtube) always open in Firefox.
• barrkel 9y ago
  Hopefully most of the missing extensions will be developed sooner rather than later. I have 15 extensions installed, 14 of which are "Legacy". The most critical one, Tree Style Tabs, has been converted. That was the key blocker that prevented me from seriously using Chrome. But many more remain; Cookie Controller, RefControl, some kind of Classic Theme Restorer equivalent (to get a menu bar back for Bookmarks, at a minimum), etc.
  • Vinnl 9y ago
    > to get a menu bar back for Bookmarks Is that something other than the "Bookmarks Toolbar" or the "Menu Bar" (which includes a bookmarks drop-down) that I can enable by right-clicking on the empty space in the toolbar?
    • cptskippy 9y ago
      I'm not sure what he's talking about either. I just upgraded and shockingly my menubar/bookmarks configuration was preserved. It looks a little tight but it's still arranged how I had it.
      • Vinnl 9y ago
        This might be too much for you, but if it's looking too tight, note that there's also a Density menu at the bottom in the customisation screen that lets you widen the interface (including, presumably, the bars).
        • cptskippy 9y ago
          I have my density set to compact, changing it affects the vertical space of everything except the bookmarks and menu bars. They remain incredibly tight.
          • Vinnl 9y ago
            That sounds like something that shouldn't happen! Care reporting it to them? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/
• contingencies 9y ago
  Had some lag after install and had to disable smooth scrolling in General Preferences to sort it. Not sure if I was somehow hallucinating but it's smooth now. OSX.
  • SnowingXIV 9y ago
    Same issue here. Disabling smooth scrolling fixed it.
• Asdfbla 9y ago
  Is there a good Vimperator replacement for the new webextension addon system?
  • Vinnl 9y ago
    Depends on your needs. If it's mostly the shortcuts, Vimium works pretty well (at least for me). If you want the full-blown UI customisation, then I'm afraid extensions are not allowed that anymore due to the associated security risks.
    • Karunamon 9y ago
      Vent mode on: That is pathetic. More paternalistic nannying of the user, making their life actively worse in favor of closing off a very limited security hole. If that’s the mindset, wouldn’t it be even safer to not have a browser at all?
      • Vinnl 9y ago
        Well, yes, but people are going to have browsers. This does make it easier for me to install Firefox for my mom and not have her call me about "not being able to visit websites anymore" and me having to figure out something removed her address bar or something. I mean, obviously there's pros and cons, but it's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
    • aquova 9y ago
      Has Vimium been updated to work under the new extension system?
      • Vinnl 9y ago
        Vimium wasn't even available for Firefox before (it was a Chrome extension), but it is now. VimFx hasn't, but Vimium has replaced it for me.
    • zeveb 9y ago
      > If you want the full-blown UI customisation, then I'm afraid extensions are not allowed that anymore due to the associated security risks. That's total BS. It's my software running on my computer. I get to decide what I consider a security risk, not Mozilla.
• cryptos 9y ago
  I hope that firefox will continue to protect users privacy as good as possible. I'm thinking of super cookies and the like. Other brother vendors don't seem to be very engaged in this area.
  • DerfNet 9y ago
    user privacy is exactly why I'm excited to finally have a decent mainstream competitor to Chrome. If nothing else this is a nice gate out of the Google ecosystem.
  • a254613e 9y ago
    With their recent testing of Cliqz integration I doubt they're really committed a lot to protecting users privacy. HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15421708 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15421708
    • johndoe489 9y ago
      Isn't that turned off when you disable "search suggestions"? I don't like search suggestions even in Chrome. I find it makes the omnibar less useful. The omnibar was the game changer for me when Chrome did it. I never have many tabs open as I can recall anything I've visited previously by typing a few words. More often than not what I want is one of the first suggestions. So to help with this, I turn off search suggestions since they are not relevant to my past browser activity. I also got in the habit of frequently using Private window so that my History has more relevant content. It's great and I'm confident I don't need to bookmark a lot.
• awake 9y ago
  Does anyone know of benchmarks comparing this to the current version of chrome. The Mozilla team only mentions that it’s faster than previous versions of Firefox.
  • mythmon_ 9y ago
    I know about this, which is a really interesting comparison, but I haven't found any benchmarks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIywpvHewc0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIywpvHewc0
  • scottjad 9y ago
    The benchmark Mozilla highlights for this release (2x faster) is Speedometer 2.0. FF57 is 2x faster than FF52, which came out roughly 7 months ago. In my own personal testing (you can run on your machine in a couple minutes), FF57 is 10% faster than FF56 on that benchmark, and Chrome 60 is 10% faster than FF57. https://mozilla.github.io/arewefastyet-speedometer/2.0/ https://mozilla.github.io/arewefastyet-speedometer/2.0/
• hysan 9y ago
  Asked this a week ago in anticipation for the release but got no response.[1] Whatever happened with Cliqz? Is it still a part of the release? [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15643154 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15643154
  • Vinnl 9y ago
    It has never been part of the release - it was part of a test rollout to 1% of German users (not sure if that was of an actual or a beta release).
    • hysan 9y ago
      Well for one thing, it was part of an actual release according to Mozilla's own blog post about it.[1] Second, that still doesn't answer my question about what happened with regards to Cliqz. Is it still being considered? What were the results if the test has concluded? Or are they still testing it in 1% of FF57 downloads to German users? Mozilla has been silent with regards to their Cliqz test which is why I'm asking. [1] https://blog.mozilla.org/press-uk/2017/10/06/testing-cliqz-in-firefox/ https://blog.mozilla.org/press-uk/2017/10/06/testing-cliqz-i...
      • Vinnl 9y ago
        Right, hence the ellipsis. So if you're not downloading German Firefox you probably won't have to worry about it. I don't have an answer to your other question (maybe someone else will), although since that post says they'll keep us posted and I haven't seen anything, and since it hasn't been that long ago, I don't think too much has come of it yet.
• b3lvedere 9y ago
  It's fast. Fast! Thanks! It seems i also got Ebay as an additional search engine. Oh well.. deleted it. :)
• superdaniel 9y ago
  Even the scrolling on macOS is more smooth!
• Vinnl 9y ago
  From the announcement post [1]: > As part of our focus on user experience and performance in Firefox Quantum, Google will also become our new default search provider in the United States and Canada. Does that mean the deal with Yahoo! has lapsed? And is there a new deal with Google, or no deal at all? (And what would be the revenue impact of that?) Edit: Just saw an announcement for this as well [2], with no word about revenue. Guess that means that Yahoo! isn't paying anymore and that it means Google is the more sensible choice when nobody pays - though that's still reading between the lines. [1] https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/11/14/introducing-firefox-quantum/ https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/11/14/introducing-firefox... [2] https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/11/14/firefox-features-google-as-default-search-provider-in-the-u-s-canada-hong-kong-and-taiwan/ https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/11/14/firefox-features-go...
  • mythmon_ 9y ago
    The details of these deals aren't generally public, so I don't expect to see any official answers about this.
    • Redoubts 9y ago
      Well, it's particularly interesting when you tie these two facts together: > According to documents filed with the U.S. Securities & Exchange Commission (SEC), Yahoo paid Mozilla $375 million in 2015, and is obligated for the same amount each year through 2019 under a five-year contract. > Under terms of a contract that has been seen by Recode, whoever acquires Yahoo might have to pay Mozilla annual payments of $375 million through 2019 if it does not think the buyer is one it wants to work with and walks away.
      • dralley 9y ago
        I would really love to know what the Blood Alcohol Content of the Yahoo representatives that signed that contract was. Those terms seem absolutely braindead stupid.
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• sleepychu 9y ago
  At last LastPass has released a new version! (FF Developer Edition has passed beyond the grace period so only allows modern extensions. I've been using Chrome just for lastpass for months!)
  • SnowingXIV 9y ago
    This is what's holding me back from changing mostly. Honestly, lastpass is great for me but I almost wish built in browser password managers were better. I used to use Google Chrome's password manager but one time I synced with another computer or phone and everything got erased and there was no undoing it. I lost everything. Maybe syncing is better now but after that sync that thought "hey let's make sure everything is like this brand new device" I hesitate.
    • sleepychu 9y ago
      I think the main problem with the inbuilt password managers is they're designed as a convenience mechanism to locally store password copies, not as a complete replacement for user remembered passwords.
    • Santosh83 9y ago
      High time that passwords management was integrated into the OS, where it belongs. These days its not just sites, but hundreds of apps too that want your passwords, and browser based extensions can't interface with other apps. On the other hand a standalone password manager has at best a flaky interaction with web pages inside a browser window, and often has to be supported by an in-broswer extension, adding to complexity of code and interaction. We need the OS to store credentials and expose a well-defined, OS independent API for apps/sites to identify themselves securely and request for the user's authentication. This will go a long way towards mitigating exploits like cross-site scripting attacks, phishing, software keyloggers, clipboard sniffers and so on. I really find it amazing that this is something none of the major OS creators have tackled in a standarised manner.
      • Shorel 9y ago
• lizzard 9y ago
  Super fast! And I'm so happy that Tree Style Tab is working smoothly.
• __BrianDGLS__ 9y ago
  I'm on windows 7, the new version seems to keep spawning a process which grinds my machine to a halt. I've had to open task manager twice now to kill it. Only downloaded it 10 minutes ago.
  • acdha 9y ago
    Try starting Firefox in safe mode in case that's some broken extension: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-firefox-issues-using-safe-mode https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/troubleshoot-firefox-is...
    • __BrianDGLS__ 9y ago
      No extensions installed. Literally just downloaded firefox.
      • TheRealPomax 9y ago
        sounds like you should file a bug about that so they can be aware of that problem and look into it.
      • yoasif_ 9y ago
        Sibling comment recommended opening a bug. I concur: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided#h=bugForm%7C https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?format=guided#h=b...
• AdmiralAsshat 9y ago
  Pretty much all the extensions I need have been converted to WebExtensions at this point. DownTheMAll remains the sole holdout at this point, but I really only use it on one of my workstations.
• arkitaip 9y ago
  The main thing keeping me tied to Chrome is how it syncs passwords, bookmarks and history. Is Firefox's sync as good?
  • DiThi 9y ago
    Yes. Been using it for years. The only gotcha is that adding a new devices loses the date of bookmarks. If you care about that, a workaround is to export and import them.
  • andrepd 9y ago
    Yes, and you own the private key.
    • DiThi 9y ago
      It's a very nice feature. But note that a consequence of this is that you'll loose data if you desync all devices. The private key is only transferred from device to device, without being stored in any server.
      • callahad 9y ago
        We actually fixed that failure mode three years ago with the release of Firefox Sync 1.5. The encryption key can now be re-derived from your password, so you can always recover your data as long as you remember your password. Even if you lose all of your devices.
        • DiThi 9y ago
          Ah, good to know. Ideally it should also derive another key when logging into Sync, so it's never sent verbatim even through a secure channel.
          • callahad 9y ago
            We do :) The full details are at https://github.com/mozilla/fxa-auth-server/wiki/onepw-protocol https://github.com/mozilla/fxa-auth-server/wiki/onepw-protoc..., but basically we derive two separate keys: one for authentication, that gets sent over the wire, and a completely different one for decrypting the sync key, which is not set over the wire. This means that even if you can observe the entire transaction, you still aren't able to derive the decryption key. It's more or less: let quickStretchPW = PBKDF2(email, password) let authPW = HKDF('authPW', quickStretchPW) let unwrapBkey = HKDF('unwrapBkey', quickStretchPW) Where unwrapBkey !== authPW.
• aryehof 9y ago
  Can one run the new version alongside a previous version? I need to access occasionally extensions unsupported in the new version: namely Scrapbook and the extension that provides maff file support.
  • sp332 9y ago
    You can if you run them in different profiles. Use firefox -P to launch the profile manager and create a new profile. You can sign both profiles in to the same Firefox sync account if you want to share history etc between them.
  • Vinnl 9y ago
    I believe you can on every platform, but make sure to use a different profile (-P option, off the top of my head), as they're not compatible between releases.
  • sundarurfriend 9y ago
    The developer of Waterfox has promised to continue supporting "legacy" add-ons, so that's an option you can explore.
    • Sylos 9y ago
      Mind though, that this effort will almost certainly die off after June 26, 2018. That's the EOL date of Firefox 52 ESR, meaning the actual end of Mozilla supporting legacy extensions. This sort of cynic statement is based on this legacy extension system having been a major maintenance burden for Mozilla, so now one developer or even a small team trying to take that over, I can hardly imagine to work out.
  • TheRealPomax 9y ago
    As long as you use different profiles, and start each of them up with the profile indicated as runtime option: yes. (particularly useful when you need to test some website against a main, beta, and nightly version of a browser simultaneously)
• cvburgess 9y ago
  Anyone know how the new FireFox compares on battery-life? Safari crushes Chrome on this front currently, but I'm curious how FireFox compares now.
  • mccr8 9y ago
    None of the Firefox Quantum work has looked at power usage, so don't expect any changes on that front.
    • akerro 9y ago
      Well... new renderer and JS engine are faster and use less memory, which means less CPU cycles are used for the same thing and less information is stored in RAM, there are improvements for Windows and Linux hardware acceleration. This all summed-up means reduction of power consumption.
      • bzbarsky 9y ago
        The new style system is faster, but partly due to parallelizing, which doesn't necessarily mean fewer CPU cycles (though _can_ mean more time spent in CPU sleep state). I don't know why you think 57 uses less memory than 56 for the "renderer and JS engine". I don't think it does. In fact, the data shows that it actually uses a bit more than 56, though this obviously depends on workload. (Disclaimer: I work on the Firefox rendering engine and have done some work on the JS engine.)
        • hinkley 9y ago
          In theory, race to idle might save it. In practice, my fellow web app devs will throw more crap on the web page until things are slow again and only then push back on feature creep from management.
    • Starwatcher2001 9y ago
      This is mentioned in the release notes: "AMD VP9 hardware video decoder support for improved video playback with lower power consumption"
• liuw 9y ago
  I'm using it now. It is really snappy! There are bugs though. I'm using Debian Stretch. Right click menu doesn't work: it appears for a fraction of a second then disappears; so does the top-bar menu of LastPass plugin.
  • callahad 9y ago
    Huh, I can't replicate that in Fedora. Are you using a binary downloaded from Mozilla directly, or from one of the various Debian APT repos? Can you email me with more info (my HN username @mozilla.com), especially what desktop environment you're using, X vs Wayland, etc.
    • liuw 9y ago
      I downloaded the tarball from Mozilla website. I use i3 with X. I'm happy to provide more information via email.
  • BeefySwain 9y ago
    Is there a repo for FF57 for Stretch? If not, what is the "best" way to get it?
    • jxcl 9y ago
      It doesn't seem like there is. mozilla.debian.net says: >Jessie and Stretch backports of Firefox release and beta are gone because of the requirement of rust to build them, which is not available in Jessie or Stretch. Please update your apt sources to use Firefox ESR instead. I've downloaded the tarball from the firefox homepage, extracted it, and put it in ~/opt, and symlinked it to ~/bin/firefox, which is on my path first.
• dpc94 9y ago
  Has anyone had poor performance on mac? I notice that my fans tend to spin up quite frequently with normal browsing. I didn't really have this issue with chrome.
  • sirtel 9y ago
    A developer answered in another post > The point of parallelization is to harness the full power of the CPU. If you don’t want that try reducing the content process limit near the bottom of general options. [https://hacks.mozilla.org/2017/11/entering-the-quantum-era-how-firefox-got-fast-again-and-where-its-going-to-get-faster/ https://hacks.mozilla.org/2017/11/entering-the-quantum-era-h...]
    • bonaldi 9y ago
      It's not murdering battery because it's "harnessing the full power of the CPU", it's chomping through almost 1% battery a minute on Mac while doing virtually nothing. Apparently "vibrance" is one of the culprits and switching to the light or dark themes can help a lot. But yes, it's destroying battery compared to Safari for me. Which is a shame, as it's already my default on Windows.
      • steveklabnik 9y ago
        Sounds like you should definitely file a bug.
        • bonaldi 9y ago
          there is one: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1404042 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1404042 — it was moved to being tracked for v58.
• Mizza 9y ago
  I just upgraded. It completely changes the chrome of the browser on OSX and it is _absolutely hideous_. There are a lots of unnecessary animations that I find very jarring. I don't know if there's a way to change it back yet. UPDATE: There is a "Customize Firefox" button which allows modifying the theme, which fixes the colors, but not the shape of the tabs or the animations. UPDATE: In about:config, you can disable some of the animations with `toolkit.cosmeticAnimations.enabled: false` UPDATE: You can bring back curved tabs with this: https://github.com/wilfredwee/photon-australis https://github.com/wilfredwee/photon-australis
  • KozmoNau7 9y ago
    Do you have any specific examples?
    • Mizza 9y ago
      When you click on a new link, there is an "explosion" animation on the tab where it turns entirely blue for a second. This happens every time you click a link. I'm finding this extremely distracting. I'm sensitive to this kind of stuff so I always try to disable animations on everything I can. The top bar is also black-ish now rather than the system grey. This looks particularly bad with the new "blue" highlight indicator. The tabs are all square rather than rounded. It all looks pretty hideous.
      • Exuma 9y ago
        You mean the blue loading indicator?
        • Mizza 9y ago
          No, the active tab now has a blue stripe on it. Every tab has an animation of a darker stripe swooshing in at the top when you hover over it.
      • WD-42 9y ago
        You can change the theme to "light" in preferences. If should get rid of the black bar. This has been a common complaint from osx users.
• fyrstenberg 9y ago
  Do anyone have NoScript working in 57r? The latest dev version from noscript.net doesn't want to install.
  • barosoa 9y ago
    It's legacy.
  • nanny 9y ago
    I've been using uMatrix: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/umatrix/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/umatrix/
  • r3bl 9y ago
    WebExtension version of NoScript is going to be released today: https://hackademix.net/2017/11/14/double-noscript/ https://hackademix.net/2017/11/14/double-noscript/
• stesch 9y ago
  Currently no NoScript for Firefox 57. And no gestures if you are on Mac or Linux.
  • clouddrover 9y ago
    But NoScript will be released today: https://hackademix.net/2017/11/14/double-noscript/ https://hackademix.net/2017/11/14/double-noscript/
    • stesch 9y ago
      End of the week.
  • stesch 9y ago
    Downvotes for this? WTF?
• amelius 9y ago
  It's supposed to be faster, but when I open developer-tools and click on "Inspector", it takes almost 5 seconds to paint. EDIT: Okay, tested again; it depends heavily on the website you do this on.
  • KozmoNau7 9y ago
    Less than a second here. Yes, I can see it paint, but it's nowhere near 5 seconds. And I'm on a base model Thinkpad T440, hardly a speed machine these days.
    • amelius 9y ago
      Did you wait until the box was fully populated?
      • KozmoNau7 9y ago
        Yes.
  • acdha 9y ago
    Which site did you test it on? All of the developer tools (Chrome, Firefox, Safari, Edge) will take awhile to load a massive DOM tree with many thousands of nodes.
• Severian 9y ago
  I won't touch it until NoScript is available.
  • robin_reala 9y ago
    Touch away: https://hackademix.net/2017/11/14/double-noscript/ https://hackademix.net/2017/11/14/double-noscript/
  • SadWebDeveloper 9y ago
    +1 m using Chrome + uBO + uMatrix + uBlock Protector while NoScript 10 gets released.
    • TheRealPomax 9y ago
      Slightly confused here: what's the point of "using Chrome instead" when FF supports all of the addons you're using 'in the mean time' already? Just use FF with those addons until NoScript gets its official release in tandem with the official FF release?
      • SadWebDeveloper 9y ago
        Every major FF release always come with major bugs followed by a minor release fixing them a couple of days later, plus it comes with headaches discovering "Whats New" or for me "What should i disable next" or "What feature they delete", usually i tolerated those changes because i had NoScript by my side and now that NoScript disappear the line between Chrome and FF its pretty thin therefore meanwhile everything settle, m using an already tuned Chrome. tl;dr FF without NoScript is basically Chrome, without NoScript Firefox is meaningless to me, it's the only thing that has kept me on Firefox.
• wklm 9y ago
  Did anyone find an easy way to export bookmarks, history etc from chrome to firefox?
  • maxerickson 9y ago
    There is an importer for at least bookmarks in the bookmark management window. (it will access the other bookmarks directly)
  • DiThi 9y ago
    Bookmarks and history both have import/export functions. I've used them, as well as Firefox Sync which preserves your privacy more than Chrome's.
  • callahad 9y ago
    The instructions at https://support.mozilla.org/kb/import-bookmarks-data-another-browser https://support.mozilla.org/kb/import-bookmarks-data-another... show how to import data from other browsers into Firefox.
• Exuma 9y ago
  I trashtalked Firefox being slow forever, I just tried it out and I must say it's definitely very fast. Great work to the Firefox team.
  • barosoa 9y ago
    Blisteringly fast. Great job FF team!
    • wickawic 9y ago
      And apparently not all of the performance improvements are even integrated into the browser yet!
  • cptskippy 9y ago
    It's been fast, faster than Chrome in my experience, for at least a year. Now it's extremely fast.
• dom96 9y ago
  Just upgraded. Definitely feels snappier at first glance, what I'm most curious about however is how much the speed deteriorates the longer I use it (if at all). The older version was definitely pretty bad after a couple of days of uptime. All in all though. Nice job so far. :) Edit: I do sorta feel like the tabs are now smaller (when there is a lot of tabs open), any way to make them bigger?
  • r3bl 9y ago
    As far as your edit is concerned, try searching for "browser.tabs.tabMinWidth" in "about:config". I know it's available in Beta / Nightly, but I don't know if it got backported to Stable nor will it.
    • dom96 9y ago
      Nice. This works, thanks! :)
  • TuringTest 9y ago
    I've been using the nightly version for several months, and it doesn't slow down significantly.
  • amirmansour 9y ago
    Customize > Density (at the bottom) > "Normal" :)
    • deleted 9y ago
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• asfdsfggtfd 9y ago
  Any recommendations for installing the ESR version on Linux?
• frayesto 9y ago
  Anyone else use PocketCasts web player? Chrome is able to play audio at 2.7x speed without distortion while Firefox still has issues. Is there a location where I can submit a bug report?
  • callahad 9y ago
    We track most of our bugs in Bugzilla (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org https://bugzilla.mozilla.org). Once you've created an account, go to File a Bug, Core, and choose "Audio/Video: Playback" as the Component in the form. (In general, it's fine to chuck bugs into Firefox -> Untriaged and they'll eventually land in the right place.) If Bugzilla's a bit of a pain, just let me know and I'll happily file it for you.
    • tmzt 9y ago
      Are Quantum bugs in bugzilla or Github?
      • Yoric 9y ago
        Bugzilla. There are a few exceptions, but if you misfile a bug to Bugzilla, don't worry, it will be moved to Github during triage.
  • robin_reala 9y ago
    There’s already one filed that you can track: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1395158 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1395158
  • r3bl 9y ago
    > Is there a location where I can submit a bug report? You're probably looking for https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi
• parmesan 9y ago
  I just updated - WOW! What an improvement! Compared startup time and scrolling around some over-monetized sites; Behaves just as well as Chrome. Time for a switch again, I've missed FireFox since I started having Chrome as my default browser back in ~2011
  • manojlds 9y ago
    If it as just as good as chrome, why should I switch? Especially given how good Chrome Dev tools are.
    • Yoric 9y ago
      Better privacy? Non-profit? More open source? Cheerful community? Pick one or more :)
      • toweringgoat 9y ago
        Privacy is about the same, Mozilla Corporation (who distribute the browser) aren't non-profit, both are open source. Correct on community maybe.
        • chimeracoder 9y ago
          > Privacy is about the same, Mozilla Corporation (who distribute the browser) aren't non-profit, both are open source. Chrome is not open-source. Chromium is, but Chrome is not.
        • AsyncAwait 9y ago
          > Mozilla Corporation (who distribute the browser) aren't non-profit Mozilla Corporation is wholly owned by the non-profit. > both are open source Not to the same degree, as Chrome != Chromium
        • callahad 9y ago
          The privacy situation is absolutely different; Mozilla has no profit motive to monitor and monetize your activity on the Web. For example, Firefox Sync is specifically designed so that we have no knowledge of your browsing data. In contrast, when you sign into Chrome, "Your experience in other Google products is personalized by including your Chrome history with your Web & App Activity."(https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/185277 https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/185277)
• shabbyrobe 9y ago
  Just installed it, looks like the update overrode my previously set default of a blank "new tab" page in favour of their overly fancy, ad infested "new tab experience" page. Looks like it's time for another scan of about:config for any other nasties they decided to sneak in there this time.
  • DiThi 9y ago
    No need to dive into about:config. Just click the gear icon at the top left to disable all stuff.
    • oblio 9y ago
      On the other hand, for some reason they've decided to make the tab previews smaller. Now I have a bunch of small thumbnails on a huge page... And now way to increase their size :(
      • DiThi 9y ago
        Have you tried Ctrl-wheel or Ctrl-+ (plus key)?
        • oblio 9y ago
          Huh, it's actually saved, I thought it was a temporary setting. Thanks! :) Still not perfect, since I'm just zooming in some PNGs. And the new thumbnails are square while most pages that I view are rectangular. But it will do, for now.
  • contravariant 9y ago
    I would be happy if I could just get a new tab that responded to addon defined gestures and hotkeys. Best solution so far seems to be to use the New Tab Override addon and point it to a blank page somewhere online.
    • Sylos 9y ago
• awinder 9y ago
  This is so close to great but can a mac snob ask how to get a more consistent UI experience out of firefox? I'm totally happy with how everything behaves inside the web panel but: 1. At a minimum I'd be happy with a toolbar icon set that was a little more in step with OS X design (but willing to hear if I just have misunderstanding of design :D) 2. As a reach, os-native menus or at least more native-style menus for things like the toolbar menu
  • gls2ro 9y ago
    And I would add to this, if it is possible, integration with keychain
    • rectang 9y ago
      This was possible until today and FF57 with the "Keychain Services Integration" plugin -- but it can't be ported to WebExtensions. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/keychain-services-integration/?src=api https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/keychain-serv... I will miss it and I'm not sure what to do next.
      • sdfjkl 9y ago
        I have all my passwords in OS X Keychain too (why would you use an external password manager when your OS comes with a perfectly good one). I did not switch from Safari to Firefox until I discovered above addon many years ago, and I won't upgrade to 57 until Mozilla either fixes the SDK so the addon can be ported or (better) integrates into OS X Keychain like a well behaved Mac application should.
        • softawre 9y ago
          I think most people here use more than 1 non-mobile OS?
          • kiliankoe 9y ago
• pfooti 9y ago
  Is there some super-compelling reason why FF doesn't let you inspect websocket frames? I was taking FF for a drive yesterday, based on the earlier thread, and it was nice until I started debugging my web app. I'm not interested in trusting a third party extension with all my network data either, so the plug-in to do this isn't an option. It's weird, but this really is a blocker for me for general use.
  • callahad 9y ago
    Sorry about that inconvenience. The current plan is to revisit WebSocket debugging in Q1 next year, per https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885508 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=885508. Part of the delay is the complete rewrite that most of the DevTools are undergoing. As we move from legacy, in-house solutions (XUL) to standard web technology (HTML/JS, React/Redux, etc.) as part of the "devtools.html" project: https://github.com/devtools-html/ https://github.com/devtools-html/
    • pfooti 9y ago
      I see the tracking issue has been in bugzilla for years. I get that it is a tricky map from the raw packets to these frames, but relying on a 3rd party extension to the point of deprioritizing work on this is a pretty iffy call - I wasn't excited about trusting an extension at all; that the extension seems to have been broken in 57 entirely (foreseeably too) just feels meh. I guess I'm part of a minority of people who does a lot of websockets work? Well, that's guaranteed to be true - a random feature deep inside the devtools is probably a deal-breaker for like four people.
      • callahad 9y ago
        Very sorry about that. The third party extension was developed by a core DevTools engineer, just not merged upstream. We'll get there. :)
• deisner 9y ago
  I'd feel a little better if the words "secure" or "security" appeared at least once in the marketing material: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/57.0/whatsnew/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/57.0/whatsnew/, https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/.
  • ReverseCold 9y ago
    Fixed: "various security fixes" (which is a link to details)
  • louiz 9y ago
    what concerns do you have regarding firefox’s security?
    • deisner 9y ago
      It's just that if security is a core priority, you'd expect to see this mentioned at least once. Based on what I read, the core priorities are speed, privacy, and convenience. Compare this to Chrome, Safari, and Edge (tagline: "A fast and secure browser that's designed for Windows 10"): https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/features.html https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/features.html, https://www.apple.com/safari/ https://www.apple.com/safari/, https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/microsoft-edge https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/microsoft-edge. Perhaps this is just a marketing or internal communication issue. Did somebody from security engineering have a seat at the table when the Firefox 57 marketing material was discussed?
      • Yoric 9y ago
        For what it's worth, in most companies, marketing material is typically created by marketing people, with very limited interaction with engineering. The message for Firefox 57 is performance. This doesn't mean that other stuff wasn't improved (case in point, better sandboxing), just that you can only tell one story at a time.
  • kingkilr 9y ago
• masterleep 9y ago
  On first glance, it's got some pretty annoying loading animations for tabs.
  • 0xcoffee 9y ago
    Yes, even after disabling UI animations, the blue bar above tabs does not go away. Still looking for a way to disable this.
• adventured 9y ago
  Congrats to the Firefox developers and team in general. I've stuck with Firefox as my primary browser since version 2 or 3, even as it became very frustratingly slow or resource inefficient compared to Chrome. Version 57 is tremendous.
• Shivetya 9y ago
  since 56.0 google maps went black on me and nothing seems to matter. really confused how something so simple just breaks; I am on OS X fwiw. I end up swapping to safari for some functions and then using firefox for others. throw in 57 changes the look for no reason. I don't need dark tabs as default, updates should not change the user experience without permission
  • tmzt 9y ago
    You could try switching off WebGL rendering on maps, if that's still an option.
• ndrake 9y ago
  Here's hoping Hacker News Enhancement Suite becomes available soon. https://github.com/etcet/HNES https://github.com/etcet/HNES
  • throwanem 9y ago
    Take a look at Chrome Store Foxified: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/chrome-store-foxified/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/chrome-store-...
  • etcet 9y ago
    You can now find HNES for Firefox here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/hnes/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/hnes/
• thinkloop 9y ago
  I'm loving the new FF, my missing feature is being able to open a site as a desktop app. I use chrome to make different icons/windows/apps for gmail, hn, reddit, photos, cloud9, etc. Anyone know if there is a way to have a website shortcut open in its own window and have an icon in the taskbar?
  • 0xFFC 9y ago
    Exactly, this is the only reason why I don’t use anything other than Chrome. While I really want to switch to FF. Chrome “add to desktop” does make website almost as like a desktop app and without unnecessary tabbar and stuff. I wish firefox could do that. That being said, I don’t use any native app at all other than a terminal emulator. Just terminal + vscode + chrome.
    • Yoric 9y ago
      For what it's worth, Firefox used to be able to do this (with a few manipulations). At some point, that feature was killed, because apparently nobody (except me) was using it :/ It's a shame, because I would really like to be able to move my chat clients out of the Firefox UI.
      • orthecreedence 9y ago
        I REALLY want an Electron/NWJS build on top of Firefox. I would scrap chrome altogether both for personal use and for building "desktop" apps.
• farnsworthy 9y ago
  Nice to see an update, and performance improvements are noticeable. If you're missing blank tabs like I was, restore blank tabs at Preferences|When Firefox starts, and set Home Page to `about:blank`. If you prefer new tabs to be blank as well, that's managed via the gear button on the new tab page, and by deselecting checked options. Themes are set at Tools|Add-ons|Themes. (For example, if you want a lighter-style theme restored.) I posted more thoughts here: https://jaidee.io/articles/on-the-new-firefox https://jaidee.io/articles/on-the-new-firefox
• w-m 9y ago
  When I'm trying to resize the "Welcome to Firefox" window on a Retina iMac on 10.12.6, the wavy background animation completely freezes. Firefox then takes more than a second to update the window content and restart the animation. That particular welcome screen seems like a really poor choice to demonstrate the supposedly much-improved rendering engine on my machine.
• dyukqu 9y ago
  For those who look for NoScript replacement, uMatrix[0] (from the maker of uBlock Origin) has got you covered (with "A Desperately Needed User’s Guide"[1]). [0]https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/umatrix/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/umatrix/ [1]http://adamantine.me/index.php/2015/11/18/umatrix-desperately-needed-guide/ http://adamantine.me/index.php/2015/11/18/umatrix-desperatel...
  • barosoa 9y ago
    Tried this. It was too complicated and slow enabling every subdomain by hand.
    • Crespyl 9y ago
      It is a little fiddly to set up at first, certainly. There are a few tools to make it easier though: if you're dealing with a site that uses a lot of semi-random subdomains (like googlevideo or cloudflare), it's possible to just whitelist the whole domain and get all the subdomains automatically (and then block individual subdomains if you want). It might be defeating the purpose, but you can also change the "scope" of the changes you make by clicking the blue button in the upper left corner of the panel. You can choose the scope from current domain, current subdomain, or global "*". If you select global, you can, for example, unblock the various youtube/googlevideo related embeds/iframes/xhrs there, and then youtube embeds will work on every site. The one thing I wish the addon would do is sync my black/whitelists through Firefox Sync so I didn't have to either redo everything on a new computer, or go to the trouble of exporting/importing them.
      • drdaeman 9y ago
        > sync my black/whitelists through Firefox Sync It's technically possible, although UX is terrible. Go to uMatrix settings, make sure to "enable cloud storage" option is set in the "settings" tab, then manually upload and download rules in the "my rules" tab. No automatic sync (won't be implemented[1]) and, no merges at the moment (button's broken[2]). [1] https://github.com/gorhill/uMatrix/issues/467 https://github.com/gorhill/uMatrix/issues/467 [2] https://github.com/gorhill/uMatrix/issues/807 https://github.com/gorhill/uMatrix/issues/807
• barosoa 9y ago
  No video download helper. Anyone got a good way of downloading video streams?
  • Max_Mustermann 9y ago
    Have you tried youtube-dl(https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/ https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/)?
    • barosoa 9y ago
      Not for a while. I was hoping for a browser addon.
• xpil 9y ago
  It scores 97/100 in ACID3. Not that it matters but stil...
  • bzbarsky 9y ago
    Right, because some of the relevant standards got changed slightly in some of the edge cases ACID3 tests (e.g. to deal with shadow DOM), and browsers got updated to follow the standards, but the maintainer of ACID3 doesn't want to change the test. See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2017Jul/0003.html https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2017Jul/000...
• Zeklandia 9y ago
  I'm just glad that uBlock₀ works in Firefox 57.0 for Android.
• godelski 9y ago
  It feels a lot snappier, but I definitely am not seeing a memory improvement. `about:memory` shows ~230MB for the top one, but task manager shows me at 1.3GB. I only have 13 tabs open. Yesterday this same tab set was running about the same memory. I know my linux computer at home runs lower memory with more tabs (that one hasn't been updated to 57 yet) But the browser speed feels A LOT smoother. Update: In the last hour I'm now reading about 1.8GB at 16 tabs. Still acting really fast though.
• huhtenberg 9y ago
  Is there a pre-57 theme for the UI? The new one is way too minimalist. It also appears to target people with poor sight all chrome elements suddenly became larger. EDIT - The upgrade also wiped all GreaseMonkey scripts for some reason. Hmm. EDIT - Downgraded back to 56. Way too many jarring UI changes as well as the AddOn breakage to justify the new snappiness. Mozilla also appears to have pulled the link to the "old releases" page from their main website, so here it is - https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases
  • oblio 9y ago
    You can reconfigure almost everything back... For the chrome elements size: Menu -> Customize -> Density -> Compact.
    • huhtenberg 9y ago
      Yeah, saw that. That's not "Compact" though, that's "Cluttered". The top part of the browser window is now an utter mess. I can live with the new tab style, but the layout with absolutely no vertical spacing/padding and these new "minimalist" icons is just... ugly, and unnecessary at that. I don't think I'm the only person who cares for how things _look_ in addition to how they _work_.
• SquareWheel 9y ago
  Congrats Firefox team on this release!
• citruscomputing 9y ago
  Loading webpages is faster for me, but youtube has a lot of jank and videos freeze every few seconds. Is anyone else experiencing this, and if so, have you been able to fix it?
• jp_rider 9y ago
  If you'd like to disable pocket, here are instructions: https://help.getpocket.com/article/1025-disabling-pocket-in-firefox https://help.getpocket.com/article/1025-disabling-pocket-in-...
  • cptskippy 9y ago
    Unfortunately that doesn't disable the "Recommended by Pocket" crap on the New Tab Window. I have Firefox installed on 8 different machines and the option to remove "Recommended by Pocket" in the New Tab Preferences only appears in half of them. If you're missing the option then you can open about:config and set "browser.newtabpage.activity-stream.feeds.section.topstories" to false to get rid of it. I also blew away the "browser.newtabpage.activity-stream.feeds.section.topstories.options" key that contains all of the configuration crap for pocket. Unfortunately non of this is or the op's settings are synced in your Profile so you have to change it on all of your machines. :(
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    • helenius 9y ago
      If you like syncing files you could look into user.js for syncing config settings: http://kb.mozillazine.org/User.js_file http://kb.mozillazine.org/User.js_file
      • cptskippy 9y ago
        Am I missing something? I don't see how that ties into Firefox Sync to propagate changes to all instances. * Also, that's very cool regardless.
        • helenius 9y ago
          Not really, just that you need to be crazy enough to write and sync a file instead with e.g. Resilio or Dropbox.
• shady-lady 9y ago
  Glad Tree Style Tabs ported over to 57...but kinda annoying I needed to uninstall/re-install add-on to get it working again
• atonse 9y ago
  Feels GREAT! Happy to be using this in addition to Safari. I also added uBlock Origin as an adblocker but would still love if FF eventually included native, declarative content blocking like Safari (probably less likely given how much money they get from Google).
  • abtinf 9y ago
    I don’t want necessarily want an adblocker built into my web browser. It creates too much centralized risk and power for the kinds of shenanigans pulled by ABP or ghostery, and it would hurt adoption of good add-ons like ublock. What I DO want to see is something like ublock matrix become a standard feature. Matrix is an incredible add-on that has made the web more useable and more debuggable for me. If it was built-in, the defaults would have to be toned-down or turned off, because it breaks too much of the web, but a simple “privacy mode” toggle to step up restrictions would be welcome in a private browsing window. Call it “War Mode” or “Paranoid Window” when using a private window with maxed out Matrix.
    • atonse 9y ago
      It's not an adblocker. It's a "content blocking" engine. Basically, there are two pieces to any blocker: the blacklist, and the actual execution (matching against blacklist rules, and probably executing JS to remove it). Safari's got a native engine for the execution part. And you pass in the blacklist with declarative rules. It's the best of both worlds in that you get competing blacklists, but the actual engine is even faster than JS. And for security like you said, there aren't any shenanigans since it's literally a JSON blacklist and can't contain code.
  • Sylos 9y ago
    Firefox includes Tracking Protection, which, as it says on the tin, blocks trackers, not ads. But many, many ads have trackers built in, so it practically also blocks most ads. This is default-enabled in Private Browsing. To enable it in normal browsing, you can toggle privacy.trackingprotection.enabled in about:config. I think, there's also now a GUI toggle in the settings to do that, I haven't checked yet. And well, the main-motivation for not default-enabling it is not some Google-conspiracy, it's because they'd take away the income source of many webpage owners who in turn would simply stop testing against Firefox, if not block it completely. Apple doesn't have to give as much of a fuck about this, as they have basically guaranteed market share with macOS and iOS, and because Chrome uses a fork of their browser engine, so if webdevs test against Chrome, it'll almost certainly also work in Safari.
• jlgaddis 9y ago
  To chime in with some of the others, I decided to try out Firefox again [0] when the FF57 beta/nightly/whatever was first released and am very happy that I did! Looks like that was ~48 days ago and I think I've opened up Chromium maybe two or three times since then. (WRT extensions, LastPass was the only thing I "missed" (we have Enterprise for $work) although I normally use the CLI utility instead anyways. They came out with a beta a few weeks ago and it was actually working great until about two days ago when it suddenly broke for me. The other extensions I use -- uBlock Origin, Vimium -- have been working just fine.) [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15344018 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15344018
• beaconfield 9y ago
  w00t! I started using Firefox 1.0 after being a Netscape user back in the day. I love Mozilla and all they stand for and I'm so excited that they are releasing Quantum and kicking ass again.
• gorn 9y ago
  Is there a way to import bookmarks from Chrome?
  • akazuba 9y ago
    there is. ctrl+shift+o > import and backup> import data from another browser. you can import bookmark, history, passwords, everything.
• gbrown_ 9y ago
  Anyone know how to disable the new loading animation? I find the "pulse" at the end of the animation very distracting.
  • Sylos 9y ago
    You can disable "toolkit.cosmeticAnimations.enabled" in about:config. This affects more than just the pulse, but you'll probably actually be happy about that...
    • gbrown_ 9y ago
      Thank you!
• majani 9y ago
  Wow, no one's talking about mobile? Have they fixed the lagginess and inaccurate click detection that routinely crops up on the Android browser?
  • drzaiusapelord 9y ago
    Mobile FF is built on versions far behind the desktop FF. Give it time.
    • nnethercote 9y ago
      It's more complicated than that. Firefox on Android uses much of the core code that desktop does. But sometimes new features do get enabled on Android a little later. One example is Stylo, the new style engine, which isn't enabled on Android yet.
• flyinghamster 9y ago
  Just updated it on Android... and I wish I hadn't. The very first thing I was greeted with on the "top sites" page was a bunch of "Recommended by Pocket" links, and no way to disable that. I can't find anything in about:config to disable this either. How about NO, goddammit? Shame on you, Mozilla.
  • amadeusw 9y ago
    I also got the firefox for android after seeing the sync feature. However the tabs don't sync by default and I haven't seen any guide on how to use this feature. I'd appreciate any pointer in the right direction.
    • Sylos 9y ago
      On the desktop (in Firefox 57), you can find your tabs under Library->Synced Tabs. On the Android version, they appear on the homepage->History->Synced Devices. Mind that they don't sync immediately. There's an interval for syncing. You can lower this interval in about:config by editing one of services.sync.scheduler.*, also possibly services.sync.syncInterval, but I don't know for sure what each individual one does. Also, you can tell it to do a sync right away, on the desktop version with Alt+t, then s; on the Android version by going into the settings, then tapping on "Firefox Account" at the top and then "Synchronize now".
  • Rusky 9y ago
    Those can be disabled from the new tab page itself.
    • flyinghamster 9y ago
      Ah, better. It was not at all obvious how to get rid of it. Hamburger -> General -> Home -> Top Sites Then it can be toggled off. Whew! EDIT: It's still not nice to have this sort of thing come up by surprise.
  • CaptSpify 9y ago
    That pissed me off too. When did Mozilla become an advertiser?
• rhabarba 9y ago
  IMO, it sucks now. I like the awesome new speed even on my old Sandy Bridge, but the death of ANY possibilities to add features to the browser UI is not worth it. Really.
• helper 9y ago
  Whats the status of u2f in firefox 57? Trying to login to gmail I get "Something went wrong. Remove your Security Key and try again." I enabled 'security.webauth.u2f' and 'security.webauth.webauthn' but that didn't seem to help :(
  • helper 9y ago
    Ah, it works for github.com but not for google. Seems like an issue with the google login page.
• pier25 9y ago
  Woah it's super fast. Anyone knows if the other major browsers are working on a similar approach to increase performance?
• esistgut 9y ago
  I would really like a Debian repository like the one used for Chrome, providing working rolling releases.
• pavs 9y ago
  I have to say it's been a while since I have been impressed with a firefox official release, I have been using nightly for a couple of weeks now. Another thing to note, and maybe most people don't instinctively realize this, but Chrome should get a lot of kudos for bringing both browsers and the web forward in such a short time. Let's not forget - the clusterfuck both Firefox and IE were before chrome came to the scene. A lot of the implements that makes Firefox awesome now came from chrome. Chrome played just as big of a role as FF did to bring IE out of the gutter. I haven't used IE (or whatever it's current incarnation is called) for a long time as a daily driver - spend some time about 6 months ago - wasn't impressed, but still better than what it was before. Thanks, Chrome team.
• jmh530 9y ago
  Feedly performs like garbage with the new Firefox. 100% of CPU when clicking on the feed and doesn't go down.
  • jmh530 9y ago
    Honestly, I'm having all kinds of problems. I've had to force quit a bunch of times. Some sites are 100% fine, but others cause CPU to 100% and doesn't come down. Feedly was the first I noticed, but it happened again on Yahoo Finance when I clicked on a stock quote. It happened when I went to the new tab settings and tried to change those. Some things are just really off.
• bobcall 9y ago
  This will be the first version of Firefox that I won't be using. The final straw with me was the "Studies" integration. I've wanted to stop using Firefox since Pocket and EME was integrated, but I have failed to find anything else that works for me. I can no longer pretend to trust the Mozilla Foundation or the Firefox team, given their track record over the last few years. In our current era, the browser has become a critical piece of software and it is dangerous to trust an organization who wishes to censor [1][2] and track users. [1] Brendan Eich https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2014/04/11/did-mozilla-ceo-brendan-eich-deserve-to-be-removed-from-his-position-due-to-his-support-for-proposition-8/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2014/04/11/did-mozilla-ce... [2] Mozilla Information Trust Initiative : https://archive.fo/jcJWg https://archive.fo/jcJWg
  • placeybordeaux 9y ago
    Could you elaborate on how the second source is about censoring/tracking users?
    • bobcall 9y ago
      Creating a single entity who gets to control what is true from its point of view? > Mozilla’s Open Innovation team will work with ["like-minded"] technologists and artists to develop technology that combats misinformation. Mozilla will partner with global media organizations to do this, and also double down on our existing product work in the space, like Pocket, Focus, and Coral. Firefox is the gatekeeper to the web for many and if Mozilla or this initiative is going to inject their bias in the browser, then it means that anyone that Mozilla or the Mozilla Information Trust Initiative disagrees with will get censored or their speech altered. No organization that is run by humans can make the claim that they won't have a bias one way or another. In order to have a free society, we must have the freedom to express any idea (no matter how stupid they might be). People have become too lazy to look at other sources or challenge what they hear. Ideas need to be challenged in the open and be able to hold their own weight. We should not need an organization or a browser making those calls.
  • vocatus_gate 9y ago
    FWIW Palemoon (https://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml https://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml) is a fork of Firefox that attempts to maintain a power user environment and negate some of the ridiculous changes Mozilla rolls out. Updated pretty regularly and works more or less as well as vanilla Firefox. I've been using it on Linux Mint and Windows 7-10 for years now.
• shmerl 9y ago
  What Firefox version is Webrender release scheduled for?
• el_padrinho 9y ago
  What you think is better, this version or still google chrome?
• wishinghand 9y ago
  A question I have- I've been using Firefox Developer Edition and it says "57.0b12 (64-bit)" when I check its version. Is it kept in parity (or slightly ahead) of Firefox? Do I have all of the new features and speed boosts like Quantum?
• scott_karana 9y ago
  I too am sad that despite the awesome speed, I'm forced to stick with v56 out of necessity for my add-ons. Tab Groups (which was originally a first-class Mozilla feature called Panorama) absolutely changed my browser workflow, and I can't imagine regressing... The new APIs won't support replacement any time soon, and the dev has already given up, since they'd already had to run a fundraiser once to add Electrolysis support, just to find that their work would be thrown away in the near future anyways. And that's just one example... :(
  • SAI_Peregrinus 9y ago
    Try Tree-Style Tabs. It totally replaced tab groups for me, it's far more capable.
    • scott_karana 9y ago
      Thanks, can't hurt to try.
  • Sylos 9y ago
    WebExtensions were specifically announced alongside Electrolysis. This is not Mozilla's fault.
    • jhasse 9y ago
      I guess extension developers didnt expect being forced to WebExtemsions only so soon.
    • pseudalopex 9y ago
      When WebExtensions was announced, Electrolysis was already on by default in Developer Edition, and Mozilla planned to begin blacklisting incompatible extensions within 3 months.[1] The author of Tab Groups had just finished rewriting his extensions for Electrolysis.[2] He only gave up 18 months later, partly because of how frustrating Mozilla made the process of getting missing functionality added to WebExtensions. [1] https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2015/08/21/the-future-of-developing-firefox-add-ons/ https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2015/08/21/the-future-of-dev... [2] https://web.archive.org/web/20170128013037/http://fasezero.com/lastnotice.html https://web.archive.org/web/20170128013037/http://fasezero.c...
• mychael 9y ago
  I write software for the web so speed is secondary. I want to know: Does the inspector have better/more features than Chrome's Inspector? Does it have Redux and React Toolbars that are better than the Chrome ones?
  • TheCoreh 9y ago
    I believe the React and Redux toolbars are exactly the same as Chrome's
• gog 9y ago
  Judging by the comments, I could be in a minority, but to me this version feels slower. There is a noticeable lag before first paint of the page. This is specially visible if you have a fast site. I was able to click through links on the site with no lag, now there is a small, but noticeable lag. Also, where did the "Restore tabs" button go from the homepage? EDIT: Also, it looks like my fans are running more often, so CPU usage could be higher as well.
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  • staticassertion 9y ago
    Do you observe this behavior in a completely new Firefox profile?
• jeshwanth 9y ago
  Wow, super responsive firefox now :)
• bespoke_engnr 9y ago
  I've just updated and it seems really nice so far. Best of all, the "Tree Style Tab" extension works again, and it's glorious.
• Washuu 9y ago
  Does anyone know a replacement for Focus Last Selected Tab functionality? Meaning, when closing a tab, it focuses the previously selected tab before that one.
• dsschnau 9y ago
  its so good!
• rexreed 9y ago
  Ever since version 50.0, Firefox consistently crashes / freezes every time I try to download a file / save-as an image. I've seen this reported by others as well. This makes Firefox very much unusable for me. Perhaps someone here will pay attention to that. (fixed you try to I try to make it more about me ;)
  • sxates 9y ago
    Just tried that on my mac, worked fine?
  • Yoric 9y ago
    This could be many things, but if it is only when you download/save-as, from the top of my mind, that sounds like an Anti-Virus bug. Where did you report it?
    • rexreed 9y ago
      He's another person reporting [0]. It happens even on safe mode, and I'm on Mac OSX without any AV installed. It started happening only a few releases ago, so not sure what has changed in the download manager. If I go back to, say, FF 45, then it's all happy. [0] https://superuser.com/questions/982182/firefox-freezes-when-downloading-file https://superuser.com/questions/982182/firefox-freezes-when-...
  • ComputerGuru 9y ago
    I’m sure it’s nowhere near as simple/reproducible as you’re making it out to be. At any rate, I couldn’t reproduce it on my clean installation of Firefox 57, so there is that at the very least. (Hint: if your post said “every time I try” instead of “every time you try,” I’m sure it would have been better received.)
• akulbe 9y ago
  I wonder why, with Mozilla's pro-web and pro-user focus... why not DuckDuckGo?
  • jhasse 9y ago
    They also use Google Analytics for telemetry btw.
• ryanpcmcquen 9y ago
  Thank you Mozilla!
• MadWombat 9y ago
  So... my Firefox just auto-upgraded to 57 * No multi-row tab bar and no way to get it (from Tab Mix Plus) * Tabs are ugly square and no way to get them rounded * Tabs are too small and no way to set minimal tab size * Tabs are all the same color and no way to get them colored again * No tab groups, the replacement is containers, but there is no way to move an existing tab into a container and no way to only see tabs for a particular container. * Tab Session Manager seems to provide named sessions, although I have not tested it properly yet I wouldn't say that the new FF is completely useless, but it has affected my browsing experience in a strongly negative way. I will give it a few days, but at this point Chrome might provide more features I actually want (never thought I would say that). Edit: Reading other comments in this thread, I found a link to a set of CSS files that bring rounded tabs back (https://github.com/wilfredwee/photon-australis https://github.com/wilfredwee/photon-australis). Unfortunately it disables color coding container tabs which makes separating containers a pain. Well, guess you cannot have everything.
• choward 9y ago
  The one feature I wanted that chrome has isn't there in Gnome: no worthless title bar that shows redundant information. I saw screenshots for Gnome with the title bar missing before Quantum was released, so I had my hopes up. There is an extension to get rid of it. However, you also have to manually install some other garbage too. They provide a debian package, but I'm not using a debian based OS so it's a pain in the ass. I'll stick with Chromium, thanks.
  • Sylos 9y ago
    Relevant bug report: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1283299 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1283299 Experimental Nightly build with the Client-Side Decorations that you want enabled: https://github.com/stransky/gecko-dev/tree/titlebar-csd https://github.com/stransky/gecko-dev/tree/titlebar-csd (This link is taken from comment #64 in that bug report.)
  • jhasse 9y ago
    If youre using Fedora: They backported it to 57 and you can activate client side decorations in about:config.
• thecollate 9y ago
  It’s blazing fast.. Hoping to see more successful Rust based applications.
• petre 9y ago
  Where do I see the params of post requests in the developer tools? The parameters tab only shows url params. The old behaviour was to show both. Also, rendering a 50k json response is slow.
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• dbg31415 9y ago
  It's great, until you go to stream a video. Then the fans kick on, the computer gets too hot to hold... Been this way forever, hope Firefox can address this at some point in a future release.
• AndrewStephens 9y ago
  Forgetting about the speed for a moment (which is great), I like the direction they are taking the user interface. Recent versions of FireFox had terribly clunky and frustratingly bizarre UI elements, 57 is a huge improvement.
• ForFreedom 9y ago
  Absolutely no difference from chrome w.r.t memory usage.
• calyhre 9y ago
  Still miss a proper / user-friendly profiles management interface :(
• lonk 9y ago
  Scrolling is still laggy and jerky on android.
  • distances 9y ago
    Are you on beta/nightly on Android? I feel it's much better now, but still not as good as Chrome. The add-on support (uBlock) is absolutely crucial on mobile though so I could never go back to Chrome.
• SAI_Peregrinus 9y ago
  It's nice, I guess. Doesn't feel any faster, but since I tend to load new links in tabs and then visit them after I've never really noticed page load times anyway.
• genzoman 9y ago
  I updated to 57 from 56 and now FireFox won't launch :(.
• jcoffland 9y ago
  Without Tab Mix Plus Firefox 57 is not an option for me. Does anyone know of an extension that allows multiple tab rows? Tab Trees and like extensions don't cut it. This is the main reason I never switched to Chrome. It's too bad FF had to abandon it's massive library of legacy extensions for this upgrade. The myriad of extensions is one of FF's main benefits over other browsers. I've happily accepted lower performance in trade for configuration options. I suppose the most popular extensions will eventually be ported.
  • phreack 9y ago
    Absolutely, the one reason I had never left Firefox's side during Chrome's best moments were the few extensions like Bamboo RSS reader and Tab Mix Plus, which I never found good alternatives to and just were indispensable once I tried them.
  • DeepYogurt 9y ago
    Firefox 56 still works.
    • jcoffland 9y ago
      You have to go back to 55 to get legacy extensions to work.
      • 51Cards 9y ago
        I am typing this this on v56 with all my legacy extensions working?
  • petval 9y ago
    The toolbar API still lacks the required features to allow multirow. According to bugzilla discussions they might add it somewhere in 2018 :( You can also find contradictory statements from different developers like "this should be handled by addons" vs. "addons should manipulate only the web content not the browser itself" etc. It's a mess so maybe if we users push enough they might understand. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1246706 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1246706 From my point of view they should also provide mouse gestures because the WebExtensions work only after DOM is loaded and not having gestures on internal pages is a huge discomfort and user experience dissonance to put it mildly.
• vernie 9y ago
  Will it be possible to get multi-row tabs back?
• MadWombat 9y ago
  So... is there an official guide for downgrading back to an older version? For those of us who lost functionality?
  • e12e 9y ago
    You probably want extended support release, not an old(ish) unsupported version: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/ https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/
    • MadWombat 9y ago
      It seems that the extended support is only going to last until mid 2018, so that is not what I want either. Wonder how long Waterfox is going to last.
• mkup 9y ago
  Firefox Quantum feels very fast, but addon support is disappointing :( + uBlock Origin - Self-Destructing Cookies - YesScript - Video DownloadHelper - Save Session
  • jd3 9y ago
    This is the largest disappointment of all. The power of XUL/XPCOM extensions was the only thing really keeping me invested in Mozilla in recent years.
  • arunc 9y ago
    - DownthemAll
    • Viper007Bond 9y ago
      Currently being rewritten.
      • hinkley 9y ago
        A subset is currently being rewritten. Which is a surprise because he announced he wanted nothing more to do with Mozilla over this, last year. Wonder what caused the change of heart.
    • blaenk 9y ago
      This one surprises me the most, not the fact that DownThemAll itself isn't WebExtensions compatible, since that was known since last year [0], but that there is a huge gap in download management functionality. I'm not even asking for all of the functionality present in DownThemAll, I'd just like: * to be able to queue up multiple downloads without actually starting them, so I can start/resume them once I go AFK for example * auto-scan all links on the page and be able to filter them to add links to the download queue, e.g. to queue up all files matching a certain filter * rearrange the queue's order * persist the queue across browser sessions * pause any given download and be able to resume it across browser sessions Meanwhile the usual built-in download functionality nowadays appears to be pitifully bare-bones by comparison, only providing the ability to manually download individual files one by one with no semblance of a queue, nor a way to limit concurrent downloads to one (e.g. I'd rather have one finished and ready to use than 5 downloading slowly due to the connection being spread thin). For what it's worth, thankfully the author of DownThemAll is working on a WebExtensions version [1], which may also get released on Chrome and other WebExtensions-compatible browsers [2]. [0]: https://www.downthemall.net/re-downthemall-and-webextensions-or-why-why-i-am-done-with-mozilla/ https://www.downthemall.net/re-downthemall-and-webextensions... [1]: https://www.downthemall.net/delays/ https://www.downthemall.net/delays/ [2]: https://www.downthemall.net/progress/ https://www.downthemall.net/progress/
• JohnTHaller 9y ago
  For fans of using Firefox without installing it into Windows (or just trying it out temporarily without leaving things behind), the portable version is also available for your cloud folder, portable drive, or local drive: https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable
• elnygren 9y ago
  TIL Chrome is the worst browser on my Macbook atm. Not too long ago it was the best.
• dvdhnt 9y ago
  I updated to the beta last night before doing a bit of homework. While working in Google docs, I noticed that if you right click and try to "paste without formatting", you get this popup: https://cl.ly/3O0n2e3y1p1e https://cl.ly/3O0n2e3y1p1e Has anyone experienced that in a browser other than Firefox?
• hayd 9y ago
  Would love to see an Electron-compatible runtime coming from Firefox (using the new engine), using less memory etc. Looks like positron used to do this but is now dead :( https://github.com/mozilla/positron https://github.com/mozilla/positron
• daniel_iversen 9y ago
  It’s great that FF is now faster but how’s battery life in this new engine? The reason I stuck with safari and only a year ago moved to chrome was that google finally was able to drastically improve battery life on chrome for Mac... where is FF here (their release page doesn’t mention “battery” at all), does anyone know?
  • rcarmo 9y ago
    Well, I'm running it on a 7-year-old Mac mini (yeah, no battery, I know, but hold on...), and _idle_ Firefox, without focus, is ticking along at 0.7-1.5% CPU time. Safari is zero. Dead still. I type this and it moves to 0.3%. No idea what Firefox is doing... edit: Also, even without focus, Firefox climbs to 8.9% CPU just by hovering my mouse over it. Safari goes to 0.2%.
    • daniel_iversen 9y ago
      Mmm thanks! And looks like there are a few anecdotal reports and bugs around battery drain https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/7a91ss/battery_life_on_firefox_quantum/ https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/7a91ss/battery_lif... what a shame if there are issues there - would be a showstopper for my personal usage at least! Hope they haven’t overfocused on speed at the cost of worse battery life.
    • tooltalk 9y ago
      Well, I guess that depends on the content of whatever you are viewing. I tried the same on my 5-year old rMacBook Pro: youtube.com: Firefox ~6%, Safari ~0% news.ycombinator.com: 0%, ~0% amazon.com: ~2%, ~2%
    • amirmansour 9y ago
      I'm on one of the latest MacBook Pros and Firefox uses more CPU, RAM, and energy than Safari. I don't mind the extra CPU and RAM usage, but the energy usage needs some work, specially during idle time. On average the energy impact of the new Firefox has been double that of Safari.
  • richdougherty 9y ago
• johndoe489 9y ago
  On Windows 10, am I dreaming or the font smoothing looks a tiny bit different (from Google Chrome)? I kinda like it, small text looks a bit stronger and smoother à-la OS X.
  • jhasse 9y ago
    Yes, it has always been different to Chrome (better IMHO).
• ramenmeal 9y ago
  I'm trying it out now. Seems fast and I like the UI. I think there is a feature missing that I require... In chrome I can log into two separate accounts, my work and my personal. They run as practically two separate instances of chrome, so I can log into a separate lastpass account for each. Is this possible with firefox?
  • dsschnau 9y ago
    yeah, there is an extension for it: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account...
    • mderazon 9y ago
      This is great but unfortunately you can't have separate extensions with it. For example you can't have 2 Lastpass extensions
  • Merad 9y ago
    The UX isn't as nice, but you can set up multiple profiles in Firefox. There are/were some extensions to make profile switching easier but I doubt they are compatible with 57.
• intopieces 9y ago
  I've since switched to UnGoogled Chromium but might have to give this a shot just get TreeStyle Tabs back.
• esistgut 9y ago
  I use a dark theme on my Gnome desktop and in Firefox default form input elements follow the theme settings. The textarea I'm typing in here on HN is barely readable with this colors.
• Kattywumpus 9y ago
  No more Private Tabs.
• Drdrdrq 9y ago
  I'm still seeing version 56 on Google Play, is Android version 57 not available yet?
• gregorymichael 9y ago
  This is really fast.
• tolger 9y ago
  Having Reader View available out of the box is huge for me. This is one of the reasons I prefer Safari when I'm on MacOS. But I use Ubuntu most of the time, so I'm switching back to Firefox as my default browser. So far, it's been great.
• richardboegli 9y ago
  For those who still need older plugin system, use Firefox ESR for as long as possible or switch now to Pale Moon. I gave FF57 (Quantum) a try during Beta and it was FAST. I am still using Pale Moon, but installed FF57 to see the improvements, to keep an alternate browser installed and also because Mozilla "Container Tabs" looks very interesting. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Contextual_Identity_Project/Containers https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Contextual_Identity_Projec... Using Tree Style Tabs and Container Tabs looks to be AWESOME, once they do a little bit more polish to switching between containers. At the moment, they haven't implemented hiding of the horizontal tabs as Mozilla haven't officially implemented the feature. It is a work in progress though. See this workaround to remove tabs: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15343940 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15343940 Now that FF57 is out of beta, I'll give it another go.
• V-2 9y ago
  As one of these people who switched away from Firefox to Chrome a long time ago, I was curious to give it another go now that it's revamped and all. I tend to do it very year or so, but something is always wrong. Unfortunately, I quickly bumped into one simple deal-breaker (the same that discouraged me from using Opera once, if I recall). Firefox adds a few pixels of useless gap space above the tabs, meaning I always have to move the cursor slightly downwards when changing tabs. Some googling revealed the bug was actually reported over a year ago: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1302168 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1302168 As of now, it persists. Back to Chrome - see you again next year : )
  • Santosh83 9y ago
    Not for me. I can slam the cursor to the top edge of the screen and click on a background tab and it comes to focus just fine. This is of course with Firefox maximised. Am on Windows 10 just for info... perhaps the UI is slightly different under your OS...
    • V-2 9y ago
      I'm on Windows 10, too, so I assume the UI shouldn't be that far off. The problem - see the link to Bugzilla I pasted - is supposedly related to the use of multiple displays (which involves different DPI settings). A small thing to be sure, but somewhat annoying, given that switching tabs is a fairly common action when using a web browser. What's unpleasant is how long it takes to resolve it. From Bugzilla: > This is a pretty annoying usability regression that will ship in 50. Will we be able to fix it for 51? It's version 57 :)
• jacknews 9y ago
  vertical tabs? Seems like vertical-tabs-reloaded no longer works.
• johndoe489 9y ago
  1) Is it possible to change the shortcut for Private window to CTRL Shift N somehow like in Chrome? (instead of Ctrl Shift P). (I like that I could use that shortcut with my left hand (albeit with some nice thumb extension action).) 2) Any way to remove the bottom bar icons when the omni bar completion box shows? ... wait... How do I even edit search engines in Firefox? Like say, typing "yt (space) search term" to do a search on YouTube?
  • yoasif_ 9y ago
    2) https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-search-from-address-bar https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-search-from-address...
    • johndoe489 9y ago
      I see, thanks. It seems the flexibility of entering a custom URL with the %s in it for the search term is lost.
    • johndoe489 9y ago
      Yeah this isn't the same at all. For example I don't know how to add a custom search like: http://www.stopforumspam.com/ipcheck/%s http://www.stopforumspam.com/ipcheck/%s When I add a search via right clicking the search box on that site it doesn't work. Plus, the completion UX is great on Chrome, as soon as you press space or tab aftert he keyword it confirms with a special UX "Search Wikipediea" for example. Here, you get no feedback whatsoever... if I type sfs 1.1.1.1 is it going to google that, or is it actually going to search StopForumSpam for the IP ? I have no idea until I press enter. :( UPDATE Looks like you have to use "keywords for bookmarks" http://kb.mozillazine.org/Using_keyword_searches http://kb.mozillazine.org/Using_keyword_searches
• taurath 9y ago
  Gave it a shot. My complaints on 20m of usage (2015 MBP): 1. Firefox is sitting at 15-20% of my CPU with 2 tabs open. I've never had the fan come on just from browsing tabs on chrome. I opened gmail while typing this and now I'm at about 50% of my CPU and the fan is blaring. Something seems very wrong. 2. The import from other browser (assuming say I already had an old version installed and selected "replace" on mac install) option is VERY hidden behind a bunch of menus. It also didn't import any of my cookies to google, HN, or probably most other passwords in the keychain. 3. Resizing a window feels really sluggish and not snappy, as does tabbing back and forth between tabs. It takes a noticable like 500-800ms to switch to gmail. Most tabs are around 200-400ms. This feels massively slower than chrome thus far 4. The design when typing in the search bar is pretty jarring, filling up a huge amount with white space. I'll keep trying but if the CPU doesn't chill out this is basically a non-starter for me.
• wnevets 9y ago
  One downside is that there isn't a replacement for the tab wheel scroll add-on. Very annoying.
• rammy1234 9y ago
  Firefox AGAIN became my favorite. Allows me to control my privacy to the level I want. Great improvements. I believe there is more to come. YAY !!
• zabil 9y ago
  I've been using Firefox nightly after Quantum changes got in and I love it. I use it as my default browser. Now that the changes are mainstream I'll be switching to version 57. But I can't stop using Chrome yet. We write a lot of functional tests and Chrome is better at it. It's got libraries like Puppeteer, good Webdriver support and a headless mode that just works. I can't put my finger on it, but it's difficult to run automated tests with Firefox. I hope Firefox gets something like Chrome's DevTools protocol.
• brody182 9y ago
  brave browser all the way
• mason182 9y ago
  still brave browser is much better, its fast, blocks all trackers, ads, bitcoin, BAT integrated and much more
• 0x49d1 9y ago
  Very nice release, congrats! Are there any plans to improve tab search option in AwsomeBar? For example now you have to really precisely type the name of the tab to switch to it. You can add some kind of fuzzy search logic to find the tab on relatively relevant typing. With >10 tabs open that would be really useful.
• bwidlar 9y ago
  Just updated, arch linux, great experience. Really really fast, the new dark theme is great. Thanks to the developers.
• fred123 9y ago
  Quick performance comparison, FF 57 with only a single tab (upwork.com) and Chrome latest with 30+ tabs: Chrome: https://i.imgur.com/o8f4ZHp.gifv https://i.imgur.com/o8f4ZHp.gifv FF 57: https://i.imgur.com/kaQl5gN.gifv https://i.imgur.com/kaQl5gN.gifv FF 57 is much slower. Maybe a very specific use case but confirms my experience so far that FF is much slower than Chrome on basically everything.
• submeta 9y ago
  This post made me switch from Safari to Firefox. (I abandoned Chrome several years ago. Don't like Google's philosophy.) Hadn't really been using FF in ages. It has made tremendous improvements. Super fast startup and navigation. Also installed a plugin named Vim Vixen. Now I am able to navigate and use the browser almost without touching the mouse. Thank you Mozilla. Keep up the good work!
  • submeta 9y ago
    Firefox 57 + Duckduckgo = Winning team!
• johndoe489 9y ago
  Is it possible in Firefox to remember the "pinned" state of a tab matching a bookmark when it is closed? It' be awesome if some of my bookmarks always open in a pinned state. Examples: rain.today (white noise). ... But I don't want them to be there everytime I open the browser, hence to remember the pinned preference with bookmarks.
• johndoe489 9y ago
  The omnibar is less convenient than Google Chrome: it appears that pressing DELETE does not actually remove a search suggestion from History. Instead it seems to be ranked down. This is not useful, there should be a way to completely remove a suggestion (unless it is currently a bookmark). In Google Chrome I navigate with the omnibar so much, it was the game changer for me when Chrome was new. The ability to quickly recall any page I visited before. Coupled with the ability to finetune these suggestions by removing unwanted entries.
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• ProAm 9y ago
  Does anyone know how to make the newtab screen dark? All the user styles seem not to work anymore?
• yannovitch 9y ago
  Do you know how many bookmarks it can sync ? I have 30000+ bookmarks, and I use my bookmark structure all the time on all my devices, that's my workflow to write later content on my websites ( my folders = my categories, sort of) and I don't want to change my workflow. When I was using FF two years ago, it couldn't sync that many bookmarks, and that's the only reason which was keeping me from using FF (besides speed and memory usage, but that tend to vary).
• user5994461 9y ago
  The release disabled noscript. Do not update.
• chaotic_clanger 9y ago
  * where are my dragons? i mean add-ons * https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/tree-style-tab/ https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/tree-style-tab/ leaves original firefox row of tabs opened. so now i have two sets * ffox currently eats 8-12% of cpu (i.e. almost one whole core) for itself. the consumption does not seem to stop.
• jusjus 9y ago
  Still can't view websocket messages natively in the browser. The add on that did this don't work in the new version