yogthos

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by yogthos 7y ago
I think a better way to put it is that nobody should have a billion dollars more than another person. The wealth isn't the problem if it's distributed evenly. The problem has always been inequality. It would be a fantastic world w
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by yogthos 7y ago
My team has been hiring and training coop students for years, and it takes on average a week or two for students to become productive with Clojure. Furthermore, students with less programming experience actually have an easier time picking
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by yogthos 7y ago
It's quite rare to see postings for CL jobs, yet plenty of companies are actively using and hiring for Clojure. It's certainly a far more popular choice for green field development nowadays. Sounds like you're the one who nee
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A RealWorld Comparison of Front-End Frameworks 2020(medium.com)
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by yogthos 7y ago
well fair enough then
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by yogthos 7y ago
For a language that's not widely known it's weird how Clojure features in Stack Overflow and JVM surveys. Meanwhile, it's also strange that a language that's not widely used finds its ways into all kinds of well known co
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by yogthos 7y ago
If commercial usage of the language by companies big and small around the world along with funding of the ecosystem is not an indication of mainstream usage, then I guess we'll have to disagree on what constitutes mainstream.
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by yogthos 7y ago
Mainstream is typically taken to be known and widely used which Clojure is. You seem to have a personal much more restrictive definition which only includes the top few languages for reasons unstated.
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by yogthos 7y ago
REPL driven workflow allows me to put the application in a specific state, and then continue developing features against that state. If you have to restart the application each time you make a code change then you have to rebuild that state
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by yogthos 7y ago
I'll take your word on that. However, that doesn't change my point that Clojure is used at lost of large companies, and the recent developer survey showed that it's becoming more widely used at large companies.
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by yogthos 7y ago
My whole point is that languages like like Js or Java are not a good metric, and you don't have to be as popular as the top handful of languages to be mainstream.
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by yogthos 7y ago
>This says nothing about the number of human users. It obviously does because people are using these libraries in their projects. As I noted, it's an indirect measure, but it still gives an idea of the usage. And Open Collective was
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by yogthos 7y ago
I'm not arguing that Clojure is as widely used as Java or Python, which are two most popular languages in the world. I'm saying that it's a ridiculous bar to set for calling something mainstream. However, there are some other
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by yogthos 7y ago
Since money can be exchanged for goods and services, having more money directly translates into having more options to pursue your interests. If I had a bit more money, I could get an even better device, or if I was a billionaire I could pu
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by yogthos 7y ago
I'd love to know where your numbers come from
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by yogthos 7y ago
It's worth the money I paid for because I use it to do things I'm interested in doing. However, if you're planning to argue that such a device would not exist without capitalism, then I'm going to disagree with you.
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by yogthos 7y ago
I would call any language that's actively used in the industry with a large and active community mainstream. Restricting the term mainstream to a handful of most used languages is pretty silly in my opinion.
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by yogthos 7y ago
I think immutability plays a big role here as well. Clojure makes it natural to structure your code in a way where things can be reloaded individually without having to worry about global state. The REPL would be of much more limited use in
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by yogthos 7y ago
Seeing how Clojure is actively used at places like Apple, Amazon, Atlassian, and even Walmart where software development isn't even their primary business, I think it's pretty safe to call it mainstream.
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COVID19 Data in the REPL(appliedscience.studio)
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by yogthos 7y ago
>You say my iPhone example is nonsense yet you speak about wealth accumulation in a way that supports my example. The concrete numbers do not support your example. You just keep repeating nonsense over and over, but it's still nonse
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by yogthos 7y ago
>Wealth gap, however, can widen even in a positive-sum game. As demonstrated by my iPhone example. I can also create a simplified game that does this. Every turn, player A gets 10 points, and player B gets 1 point. Gap widens, yet all ga
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by yogthos 7y ago
>And here you just changed the subject. You again talk about the wealth gap. The wealth gap and zero sum game are not the same subject. It's the same subject, the wealth gap is precisely what's being discussed here. This is my
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by yogthos 7y ago
>Please do not change the subject, we were discussing zero sum game. I'm not changing the subject. My claim is that it's a zero sum game of resource accumulation. We're now at the point where over half the resources in the
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by yogthos 7y ago
>I have demonstrated precisely how it is not zero sum, using the iPhone example. My claim is that capitalism accumulates wealth with a small percentage of the population who then end up running the country as an oligarchy. Your iPhone ex
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by yogthos 7y ago
I love how you're getting downvoted for stating basic facts. 3 people in America own more wealth than bottom 50% of the population. Similar situation in Canada where fewer than 90 the richest families own more wealth than 3 provinces c
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by yogthos 7y ago
Amazon today is another example seeing how they account for 90% of online shopping.
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by yogthos 7y ago
Of course markets are a zero sum game. The reality is that capital owners accumulate majority of the resources in the country. Then they use these resources to manipulate laws, fund political campaigns, and news organizations for their own
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by yogthos 7y ago
The real question is towards what end those resources are being efficiently allocated. Capitalism is an incredibly efficient system for accumulating resources with a tiny percentage of the population at the expense of everyone else. This is
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by yogthos 7y ago
Betteridge's law of headlines applies here

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