notspanishflu

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by notspanishflu 9y ago
I've posted this already but it seems you didn't read it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/10/19... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/o
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
Again, we're talking about the rule of law in democratic societies, not totalitarian ones. I don't know the source of your fascination if you don't understand that.
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
So what?
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
No, the secessionists movement is deeply fueled with public funds. Now that Spanish government is going to control that, you can expect way less secessionists support.
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
>Unionists are few and with not that many people (except the one on the 8th of October). Anti-secession supporters has been afraid of Catalan government. Not anymore. >Unionists would love an armed or belligerent pro-independence grou
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
I have read it carefully, thank you. Nothing changes.
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
The article 1.2 of the Spanish Constitution states: > La soberanía nacional reside en el pueblo español, del que emanan los poderes del Estado. (The national sovereignty resides in the Spanish people, from which emanate the powers of the
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
I think you have a conceptual problem because you're mixing the basics. We are talking about democratic constitutions, quite different from legal texts from totalitarian regimes.
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
But the majority support the current law. The actions of the Spanish government are supported by right wing (PP), left wing (PSOE), and center wing (Ciudadanos).
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
Catalonia has never been a colony.
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
The European Union leaders ain't turning a blind eye, they have showed their express support to the Spanish government, and to the rule of law.
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
Spanish sovereignty resides in all Spaniards, not just a part of them. It is in the Spanish Constitution. If secessionists lose an election, they'll keep asking for another, and another.
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
But it is. It is specifically forbidden in the Spanish Constitution. The sovereignty of Spain resides in all Spaniards.
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
>Spain is forcing its might on a peaceful majority on Catalonians through violence... Except that statement is completely false.
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
Barcelona's local government has been pretty aggressive against tourism lately. Edit: Ok, is impossible to have a conversation when secessionists are downvoting every comment. Fine. I prefer to post arguments, and sources. http:/
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
Something more than fake news, that's for sure. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/08/catalonia-demo... https://elpais.com/elpais/2017/10/02/inenglish&#x2
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
Following your argument: lets make happy that 50% breaching the law, and lets punish the 50% honoring the law. That doesn't make any sense.
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
Interestingly enough the same arguments secessionists state for breaking with Spain, they expressly forbid such thing inside Catalonia. V.g. Barcelona can't propose a secession from Catalonia.
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
Since when applying the law is escalating? All European Union leaders support the rule according a higher law.
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
All Spaniards have the right, not only a part of Spaniards (like those living in Catalonia).
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
My statement is in the Spanish Constitution, I don't know why you're confused.
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
This is not like England and Scotland, is more like Manchester wanting to leave England. Catalonia was a economical power but not anymore, all Spaniards are sustaining that region using the FLA (Fondo de Liquidez Autonómica or Autonomous Li
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
If you believe that lie, I can't help you.
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
What part you don't understand? I'll try again. All Spaniards have voice & vote about sovereignty, not just a bunch of Spaniards.
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
The majority of catalans don't want independence. The political parties promoting independence represent less citizens than the political parties that want Catalonia to be part of Spain.
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
The sovereignty of Spain falls on all Spanish citizens. If you allow a referendum on such topic in a part of Spain, it doesn't matter the result because you're accepting implicitly that a part of Spain can rule over the whole.
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
No doubt, you're a Patán. FYI there was a terrorist group in Catalonia called "Terra Lliure". Now the members of that group are promoting secession.
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
The sovereignty of Spain falls on all Spanish citizens. If you allow a referendum on such topic in a part of Spain, it doesn't matter the result because you're accepting implicitly that a part of Spain can rule over the whole.
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
The sovereignty of Spain falls on all Spanish citizens. If you allow a referendum on such topic in a part of Spain, it doesn't matter the result because you're accepting implicitly that a part of Spain can rule over the whole.
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by notspanishflu 9y ago
I agree with that, I don't agree with BBC quoting "hundreds injured" without a reliable source.

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