lolakutty

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by lolakutty 5d ago
>Why are brains special? They are not special. You can pile brains too, if that is your thing.. > I shall have to halt any conversation otherwise. Hey, it is easy. Just don't press the reply button...
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by lolakutty 5d ago
All humans intrinsically understand it what that word refer to. So it is ok if we cannot define it in words. It conveys the idea.. But "non-physical"? I don't have a clue what it means...Why don't you tell me..
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by lolakutty 5d ago
But you said it, so you should have a definition, or else what did you mean to communicate by saying it? Or are you just parroting cool sounding words and phrases?
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by lolakutty 5d ago
You are doing the same thing when you say souls don't exist without defining what a "soul" is...lol... But at least, I gave my definition of consciousness, and at least there is one person who can test for it (oneself).
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by lolakutty 5d ago
>beyond "Only I exist" I said no such thing..lol...If you are hanging to this, it is a waste of my time to talk to you.
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by lolakutty 5d ago
Because we didn't build the brain..
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by lolakutty 5d ago
>You said you know everything about it. Yes, we know everything we put there. But we cannot consider all the possible inputs and all the possible state that the code should handle. Bugs come from that limitation. > How are you sure a
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by lolakutty 5d ago
> non-physical. Now, what is your definition for this?
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by lolakutty 5d ago
Looking for support?...lol..
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by lolakutty 5d ago
You said "rocks don't talk to me and think and act intelligently." But a coma patient who is conscious would be unable to talk and act in an intelligent manner. That does not means that they are not conscious. So consciousnes
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by lolakutty 5d ago
Yea, 14 year old should know it. Sad that I had to explain it to you..
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by lolakutty 5d ago
> Rocks don't talk to me and think and act intelligently. These are not required for consciousness. > Current LLM's do. Computer chat bots are not a new thing. So were all the past ones conscious too?
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by lolakutty 5d ago
>they are not souls by the definition Kindly share that concrete definition..
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by lolakutty 5d ago
> Brains are physical systems, so are LLMs. So are rocks. Are rocks conscious? Idol worshipers might have a point after all! >Tell me what part of it is beyond inspection? Oh, you can dissect a brain as much as you like. Is that what
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by lolakutty 5d ago
>It is possible that you are the only conscious entity in the universe, and you have no tools whatsoever to disprove that. That is correct.
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by lolakutty 5d ago
>The human brain is known and inspectable, then you should say it is not conscious. Human brain is not "inspectable". > LLM can't be conscious. Because there is no reason to think so, and suggestion that would be like s
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by lolakutty 5d ago
Why do you think "souls" can't have some physical mechanism that is beyond our current understanding?
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by lolakutty 5d ago
Oh, What does it mean then? You are so amusing....
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by lolakutty 5d ago
>but how do I know you are not faking the outputs of feeling? You won't..but it does not matter. >Where is your disproof that other physical systems can't hold consciousness? I said no such thing. Just that there is no reaso
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by lolakutty 5d ago
To my argument to work, to answer "why is a brain special", you only have to consider two things. 1. That you are conscious. 2. That you have a human body with a brain. This implies that your body can harbor consciousness. That
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by lolakutty 5d ago
Yes, we can explain the bugs by looking at the code that we put in and the data it bugs out on. In a similar way, we can explain the behavior of LLMs by look at their code and the data the code operates upon. There is no mystery anywhere...
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by lolakutty 5d ago
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Not my words.
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by lolakutty 5d ago
You don't have to know that. All you have to know is that you can feel and is conscious, and this consciousness is a result of your physical body..
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by lolakutty 5d ago
The test can only be done on oneself, and not on others. So I know I am conscious, and I am made up of a brain, among other things. So I know for a fact that this set of things that I am comprised of, can generate consciousness.
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by lolakutty 5d ago
>Give me your definition of what consciousness is. It should have the ability to feel...
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by lolakutty 5d ago
Oh, I thought you were talking about "architectures" not containing a human brain..
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by lolakutty 5d ago
currently known physics is not good enough.. It is quite an arbitrary classification. What is so special about "current" knowledge...
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by lolakutty 5d ago
Sure, if your architecture include hardware that is known to be capable of generation consciousness, the no one will say that. Problem is that we don't know any such hardware..
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by lolakutty 5d ago
Wrong assumption that the chemical goo is only doing math....
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by lolakutty 5d ago
>LLMs are useful for coding.. No one said they are not...look at my comment above in this thread! Why are you so mad lol...

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