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Noaidi
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I don’t know why you’re bringing up Jesus, I’m not a Christian, and I don’t have faith in Jesus or any religion. But are you saying since my brother was suffering he should’ve died by suicide?
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Yes, presumptions is all of have, it is all we have of anyone since we cannot get inside their heads. But his actions do reveal something, about which I can make assumptions. Even a hermit is known to be a hermit, so he is not ever alone in
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You are not the same person you were when you were nine years old are you? Literally all your cells that you had then are gone and replaced. You’ve also had new experiences and that’s changed self-concept as well. We are not one continuous
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I agree with you. All I can judgment is his actions. And his words. This man was afraid of future suffering. And he was so afraid of it that he would rather die than face it. But the truth is, he could’ve tripped and fell down the stairs th
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When anyone’s life is taken it is considered worthless, less than. Whether that is someone else’s life or your own, that sets a precedent, and it sends a message. No action happens in a bubble. Again, he was not enduring suffering either. H
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Being selfish is being overly concerned with one’s self. He took his own life without regards to the consequence how anyone else would see it. He was also overly concerned with his self image as he stated in his letter. And he’s taken somet
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The action by the man in the original article is advocating for the killing of oneself. His advice is to avoid suffering it is best to kill yourself. Approving of that message is advocating for death over suffering and that’s just something
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Yes, you’re right which is why I said greedy almost. I think there are some aspect of him wanting more than he’s deserved. Like wanting a life that ends perfectly while everyone else’s life has to go on with their suffering. But I think it
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I’m sorry, I’m not one of those people. I don’t have “religious beliefs“. There are things I’ve learned in my rather long life and through my suffering and happiness and reading a lot of different spiritual books as well as a lot of materia
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1y ago
It’s interesting to read here how many people believe their thoughts are themselves. They are more worried about losing their minds than losing their limbs. Your thoughts and memories are as much you as your hand or your foot. As a society,
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> Have you ever cared for someone with late stage Alzheimer or other forms of severe dementia? Yes. Did I say that it was easy? Did I say that the spiritual way through all this was just pretending like everything is OK? No, it’s a very
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A burden is a heavy load. The stronger you are the less things are a burden to you. In this case, if you are more spiritually strong you are, the fewer burdens you will have.
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1y ago
I am old. I have friends in their 70s and I have friends that died of cancer and suicide and heart attacks. I had a father who died terribly of a rapid spreading cancer and a mother who lived with chronic pain and heart disease for 30 years
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I am saying it’s relevant because suffering is suffering. It has the same source so it does not matter if it’s a big suffering or a little suffering. Understanding suffering does not need a degree of suffering. It just needs suffering. The
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> How is my hypothetically deciding to end my own suffering “morally bad”? Because you’re saying that life is not worth living at some point. But that’s just my level of morality. I think life is so rare and precious that I do not even w
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> The suffering that many people experience is profound. These people don’t have a more profound experience of joy than those whose lives are chill. And the happy lives of people who haven’t suffered are not better because the sufferers
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Please stop assuming you know what suffering I’ve had in my own body and my own life. I don’t wish to discuss it here, but I don’t think it needs to be discussed. My experience doesn’t matter in the logic of the argument.
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So many of you, here are thinking that my father did not die of a rapid metastatic cancer. Or that I held my schizophrenic brother in my arms after he tried to overdose on pills. Or that I’m not suffering from a disorder that I’m not going
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> You are in a privileged position to have never seen a beloved family member die a slow and terrible death, can I say this is not true without going into details? is it because I had insight of my suffering that were different than your
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The first of the four noble truths set fourth by the Buddha: The truth of dukkha: Recognizing that suffering is a fundamental part of existence They even call Joy “hidden suffering”. Because whenever the thing is that gives us joy, if we be
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There is no such thing as constant suffering and there’s no such thing as constant joy. Without suffering, we would not know joy and without joy we wouldn’t know suffering. So these are two sides of the same coin, do you see that? It’s our
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I think it was this part that stuck out to me. “His partner died in 2018 as a result of vascular dementia. The loss affected him deeply.” I can see that loss affecting him even though he had a new partner. Depression does not always go away
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Both the Buddha andJesus were real people. I wasn’t bringing up God as I don’t believe in a Christian God, and Buddhists don’t believe in God at all. But those two characters taught us a lot about suffering. Where it comes from and how to f
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I’ve had a lot of people suffer in my life from health conditions, ranging from mental illness, heart disease, and cancer. And I’ve had to take care of them all at different times. Did I consider this a burden or a gift? Oh, it was hard, bu
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> What if he tried that, but every day just got worse than the last day? Anyone can say that about their life right now, can't they? How many people struggling today think that their life will get no better? Look at all those who ma
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But do people who have dementia or say a mental illness have the capacity to make that decision? It sounds like Daniel Kahneman was suffering from depression after his wife's death and all he saw in the rest of his life was sadness. He
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My brother had schizophrenia. No one thought well of him. I guess he should have killed himself as well by the logic some are professing on here. Oh, he tried, but he ended up dying of heart disease. > Maybe a better focus would be that
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To me, Daniel Kahneman humiliated himself by choosing suicide (if he was in a sound state of mind to make that decision). He was a scared, little old man. He made an assumption that his life was "obviously no longer worth living",
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Many people think badly about the mentally ill act when they are suffering through an episode. Should they be allowed to die by suicide because what people think of them after they come out of psychosis? Should embarrassment be the bar we a