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Dan_Sylveste
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Dan_Sylveste
3y ago
> let SF devolve You have to ask yourself whether SF would have been 'let' to devolve if the type of people who support projects like this instead were active in the governance of their own city. You might also ask yourself whe
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Dan_Sylveste
3y ago
Directory Opus has evolved far far beyond that.
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Dan_Sylveste
3y ago
> What changed is that people want to make money with the web People always wanted to make money on the web, but the sites of people that didn't still appeared in search results. Now search result positioning depends on the amount o
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3y ago
> then it never did it Who knows what would be floating around our little world right now if that capacity to grab stuff out of orbit didn't exist, hmm?
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Dan_Sylveste
3y ago
I think it's good to get a case like this on the books and a precedent established because I think the enthusiasm with which some entities are embracing 'deplatforming' is a bit disturbing and some pushback is well overdue.
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Dan_Sylveste
3y ago
There isn't a single comment I've seen you make in this thread which even vaguely qualifies as being in good faith.
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3y ago
> think it should be a common-carrier system The law in the state they operate _literally defines_ it as a common carrier system. That's the basis of the case being argued here (that the ISPs blocking is literally unlawful due to th
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3y ago
> And this inevitably means you get an overrepresentation of Why do you assume this very consistent pattern of 'new forum overrun by [the material you've mentioned]' is anything other than a transparent attack on free disc
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3y ago
> your principles result in people getting injured and killed Good principles remain good regardless of exceptional circumstances. > needed to change or else they collapse and don't function at all Yeah, they changed _and_ they d
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3y ago
What proof would you accept? What pass and fail conditions?
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3y ago
> How anyone reasonable could consider this a bad thing, I don't know. Because it's completely unproven. Their theory is that 'free speech advances the goals of [others whose views are contrary to our values]' but tha
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Dan_Sylveste
3y ago
Well said, the ACLU have gone severely astray.
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3y ago
The public square had a very minimal reach. If you wanted to reach significant numbers of people you had to pay or get a sponsor.
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3y ago
> control the public discourse The truth is that before the internet, there wasn't really any genuine public discourse. If you wanted any reach at all, you had to go through a gatekeeper of some sort.
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3y ago
Okay, I see it's going to be that type of discussion. Thanks for your time.
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3y ago
Let's address first your use of the phrase 'people who want to exterminate people.' Is that hyperbole or do you really believe it?
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3y ago
> engineers who implemented Implementation is the guys holding the shovels, not the guys saying where to dig.
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3y ago
> people who want to exterminate people This is the oddly standard wording used in defense of these newly-fashionable 'everything you've ever done ever can be used against you' contributor codes of conduct and I have to fi
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3y ago
> How does the US government have power to regulate foreign media? Since 2017, U.S. legislators and the Department of Justice have required multiple foreign-funded news organizations to register under the Foreign Agent Registration Act (
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3y ago
The government already has the power to regulate foreign media and broadcasters because it's well understood that their agenda may be inimical to national security. We're just discussing how this may be applied to a 'broadcas
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3y ago
I'm ending this conversation becausee: 1. you're not actually saying anything and 2. you're endlessly bringing up Jan 6 presumably because you think I'm a conservative and want to expose my double standard. You're l
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3y ago
Lots of pictures of France burning on their site, intriguing. I guess when it comes down to it I do believe that the platform should be open to all, but there may well be specific times (such as during active and extensive rioting) that str
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3y ago
Twitter is very much the de facto modern public square. I wouldn't call it 'infrastructure' but it's definitely a utility, which is probably why a person who specialises in utilities bought it.
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3y ago
> what media should be banned No media is being banned. The same content creators can create their content on another platform, or even the same platform, if that platform agrees to incorporate locally so as to be meaningfully under the
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3y ago
> Who gets to decide A bipartisan committee will suffice. > holding conservative media liable The subject is foreign adversaries, not domestic strife. Let's not get derailed. > the government banning Doom The subject is foreig
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> So now it’s okay to ban platforms that cause “bad things” to go viral? I think if platforms habitually or consistently cause 'bad things' to go viral then the ownership and management of those platforms should be examined, an
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3y ago
> EU media > socialist agenda? There isn't a single country in the EU that's in any meaningful way 'socialist'. Stop derailing. As to your last point: approximately what dollar value of damage was done to schools a
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> influence ordinary Americans, I'd like to hear why they shouldn't be allowed to do that You can find these arguments made in any of the many court decisions related to the foreign funding of trade union groups and other activ
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3y ago
> How would I find out what would be an appropriate kind of photograph to put on Wikipedia? Anything that's relatively objective. Pictures of structures, the more significant, the better. Bridges, for example. City halls, town halls
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3y ago
The user whimsicalism is probably more interested in discussing this, I'd take it up with them. I sense that this conversation will lead to a great deal of wordy justifications for the unjustifiable. I've already said that's
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