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> Who gets to decide A bipartisan committee will suffice. > holding conservative media liable The subject is foreign adversaries, not domestic strife. Let's

> Who gets to decide A bipartisan committee will suffice. > holding conservative media liable The subject is foreign adversaries, not domestic strife. Let's not get derailed. > the government banning Doom The subject is foreign adversaries > sue the gun manufacturers The subject is foreign adversaries > In no other area of society Yes, we absolutely do. When companies bring out predatory sales techniques (such as lootboxes in video games) these techniques absolutely do attract oversight, sanctions and - in cases - outright bans. It's well recognised that people can be led astray and there are many legal avenues available to prevent significant impact.

scarface_74 3y ago
> A bipartisan committee will suffice. A bipartisan “Right Think” committee of officials get to come together and decide what media should be banned? How would that have worked out if those commie sympathizers who were trying to get the good Black folks in the south to rise up against segregation? > The subject is foreign adversaries So you’re okay with domestic adversaries like the ones who invaded the capital because they were riled up by domestic media? > When companies bring out predatory sales techniques Aren’t all addictive substances “predatory”? Do you think we should bring back Prohibition
- Dan_Sylveste 3y ago
  > what media should be banned No media is being banned. The same content creators can create their content on another platform, or even the same platform, if that platform agrees to incorporate locally so as to be meaningfully under the control of legislation. > So you’re okay with Derail attempt ignored > bring back Prohibition Derail attempt ignored
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    > No media is being banned. The same content creators can create their content on another platform Do you feel the same way if the government suppressing media on Twitter? Facebook? HN? > if that platform agrees to incorporate locally so as to be meaningfully under the control of legislation.l So now we are back to the government controlling media. Shouldn’t we also want the government to bring EU media under their control? Maybe we wouldn’t have to deal with cookie banners… How am I derailing anything? Are you not saying that the government should ban TikTok because it’s harmful?
    - Dan_Sylveste 3y ago
      I'm ending this conversation becausee: 1. you're not actually saying anything and 2. you're endlessly bringing up Jan 6 presumably because you think I'm a conservative and want to expose my double standard. You're literally Just Asking Questions here, and I absolutely hate that term.
      - scarface_74 3y ago
        I’m taking your statements to the logical conclusion. It’s what happens when people don’t think through the consequences of giving the government power. All it really takes to decide whether a government policy is a good idea or not is to think of how the political party you don’t agree with could use that power. It never ceases to amaze me how willingly people are willing to give power to the government.
        Dan_Sylveste 3y ago
        The government already has the power to regulate foreign media and broadcasters because it's well understood that their agenda may be inimical to national security. We're just discussing how this may be applied to a 'broadcaster' such as TikTok which isn't covered by the legislation that covers legacy media.
        scarface_74 3y ago
        How does the US government have power to regulate foreign media? There is no great firewall. The government doesn’t even have the power to regulate American media except when it is broadcast over the airwaves. The only reason that government can legislate mecha over the airwaves is because public spectrum belongs to people and is licensed
        Dan_Sylveste 3y ago
        > How does the US government have power to regulate foreign media? Since 2017, U.S. legislators and the Department of Justice have required multiple foreign-funded news organizations to register under the Foreign Agent Registration Act (FARA) https://cpj.org/2019/07/several-foreign-news-outlets-required-to-register/ https://cpj.org/2019/07/several-foreign-news-outlets-require...

scarface_74 3y ago

> A bipartisan committee will suffice. A bipartisan “Right Think” committee of officials get to come together and decide what media should be banned? How would that have worked out if those commie sympathizers who were trying to get the good Black folks in the south to rise up against segregation? > The subject is foreign adversaries So you’re okay with domestic adversaries like the ones who invaded the capital because they were riled up by domestic media? > When companies bring out predatory sales techniques Aren’t all addictive substances “predatory”? Do you think we should bring back Prohibition

Dan_Sylveste 3y ago
> what media should be banned No media is being banned. The same content creators can create their content on another platform, or even the same platform, if that platform agrees to incorporate locally so as to be meaningfully under the control of legislation. > So you’re okay with Derail attempt ignored > bring back Prohibition Derail attempt ignored
- scarface_74 3y ago
  > No media is being banned. The same content creators can create their content on another platform Do you feel the same way if the government suppressing media on Twitter? Facebook? HN? > if that platform agrees to incorporate locally so as to be meaningfully under the control of legislation.l So now we are back to the government controlling media. Shouldn’t we also want the government to bring EU media under their control? Maybe we wouldn’t have to deal with cookie banners… How am I derailing anything? Are you not saying that the government should ban TikTok because it’s harmful?
  - Dan_Sylveste 3y ago
    I'm ending this conversation becausee: 1. you're not actually saying anything and 2. you're endlessly bringing up Jan 6 presumably because you think I'm a conservative and want to expose my double standard. You're literally Just Asking Questions here, and I absolutely hate that term.
    - scarface_74 3y ago
      I’m taking your statements to the logical conclusion. It’s what happens when people don’t think through the consequences of giving the government power. All it really takes to decide whether a government policy is a good idea or not is to think of how the political party you don’t agree with could use that power. It never ceases to amaze me how willingly people are willing to give power to the government.
      - Dan_Sylveste 3y ago
        The government already has the power to regulate foreign media and broadcasters because it's well understood that their agenda may be inimical to national security. We're just discussing how this may be applied to a 'broadcaster' such as TikTok which isn't covered by the legislation that covers legacy media.
        scarface_74 3y ago
        How does the US government have power to regulate foreign media? There is no great firewall. The government doesn’t even have the power to regulate American media except when it is broadcast over the airwaves. The only reason that government can legislate mecha over the airwaves is because public spectrum belongs to people and is licensed
        Dan_Sylveste 3y ago
        > How does the US government have power to regulate foreign media? Since 2017, U.S. legislators and the Department of Justice have required multiple foreign-funded news organizations to register under the Foreign Agent Registration Act (FARA) https://cpj.org/2019/07/several-foreign-news-outlets-required-to-register/ https://cpj.org/2019/07/several-foreign-news-outlets-require...