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> EU media > socialist agenda? There isn't a single country in the EU that's in any meaningful way 'socialist'. Stop derailing. As to your last point: appro

> EU media > socialist agenda? There isn't a single country in the EU that's in any meaningful way 'socialist'. Stop derailing. As to your last point: approximately what dollar value of damage was done to schools as a result of the 'devious licks' viral videos trend from last year? And on what platform did those viral videos trend?

scarface_74 3y ago
I agree completely - EU isn’t socialist. Do you think that right wing conservatives feel the same way? You see what happens when you give the government power to decide what should and shouldn’t be seen? And you sound a lot like the federal government when they wanted to ban NWA because they said they were putting police in danger. So now it’s okay to ban platforms that cause “bad things” to go viral? Is media also to blame for Jan 6th?
- Dan_Sylveste 3y ago
  > So now it’s okay to ban platforms that cause “bad things” to go viral? I think if platforms habitually or consistently cause 'bad things' to go viral then the ownership and management of those platforms should be examined, and if it's determined that their ownership/management may be beholden to interests contrary to the welfare of the nation then sanctions should be applied, which may or may not include a ban. There are well understood exceptions to free speech and freedom of association that apply to the ownership and control of companies that could significantly affect the welfare of the nation. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai_Ports_World_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai_Ports_World_controversy Please answer the questions that were put to you: Approximately what dollar value of damage was done to schools as a result of the 'devious licks' viral videos trend from last year? And on what platform did those viral videos trend?
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    > I think if platforms habitually or consistently cause 'bad things' to go viral then the ownership and management of those platforms should be examined, and if it's determined that their ownership/management may be beholden to interests contrary to the welfare of the nation then sanctions should be applied, which may or may not include a ban. Who gets to decide and are you okay with people who have opposite political beliefs than you having the power to make that decision? > Approximately what dollar value of damage was done to schools as a result of the 'devious licks' viral videos trend from last year? And on what platform did those viral videos trend? I don’t know. If you’re okay with holding TikTok liable are you also okay with holding conservative media liable for January 6th? Would you have been okay with the government banning Doom because they think playing video games causes mass shootings? Do you think we should sue the gun manufacturers for shootings? In no other area of society do we think anyone should be blamed for criminal activities besides the criminals.
    - Dan_Sylveste 3y ago
      > Who gets to decide A bipartisan committee will suffice. > holding conservative media liable The subject is foreign adversaries, not domestic strife. Let's not get derailed. > the government banning Doom The subject is foreign adversaries > sue the gun manufacturers The subject is foreign adversaries > In no other area of society Yes, we absolutely do. When companies bring out predatory sales techniques (such as lootboxes in video games) these techniques absolutely do attract oversight, sanctions and - in cases - outright bans. It's well recognised that people can be led astray and there are many legal avenues available to prevent significant impact.
      - scarface_74 3y ago
        > A bipartisan committee will suffice. A bipartisan “Right Think” committee of officials get to come together and decide what media should be banned? How would that have worked out if those commie sympathizers who were trying to get the good Black folks in the south to rise up against segregation? > The subject is foreign adversaries So you’re okay with domestic adversaries like the ones who invaded the capital because they were riled up by domestic media? > When companies bring out predatory sales techniques Aren’t all addictive substances “predatory”? Do you think we should bring back Prohibition
        Dan_Sylveste 3y ago
        > what media should be banned No media is being banned. The same content creators can create their content on another platform, or even the same platform, if that platform agrees to incorporate locally so as to be meaningfully under the control of legislation. > So you’re okay with Derail attempt ignored > bring back Prohibition Derail attempt ignored
        scarface_74 3y ago
        > No media is being banned. The same content creators can create their content on another platform Do you feel the same way if the government suppressing media on Twitter? Facebook? HN? > if that platform agrees to incorporate locally so as to be meaningfully under the control of legislation.l So now we are back to the government controlling media. Shouldn’t we also want the government to bring EU media under their control? Maybe we wouldn’t have to deal with cookie banners… How am I derailing anything? Are you not saying that the government should ban TikTok because it’s harmful?

scarface_74 3y ago

I agree completely - EU isn’t socialist. Do you think that right wing conservatives feel the same way? You see what happens when you give the government power to decide what should and shouldn’t be seen? And you sound a lot like the federal government when they wanted to ban NWA because they said they were putting police in danger. So now it’s okay to ban platforms that cause “bad things” to go viral? Is media also to blame for Jan 6th?

Dan_Sylveste 3y ago
> So now it’s okay to ban platforms that cause “bad things” to go viral? I think if platforms habitually or consistently cause 'bad things' to go viral then the ownership and management of those platforms should be examined, and if it's determined that their ownership/management may be beholden to interests contrary to the welfare of the nation then sanctions should be applied, which may or may not include a ban. There are well understood exceptions to free speech and freedom of association that apply to the ownership and control of companies that could significantly affect the welfare of the nation. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai_Ports_World_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubai_Ports_World_controversy Please answer the questions that were put to you: Approximately what dollar value of damage was done to schools as a result of the 'devious licks' viral videos trend from last year? And on what platform did those viral videos trend?
- scarface_74 3y ago
  > I think if platforms habitually or consistently cause 'bad things' to go viral then the ownership and management of those platforms should be examined, and if it's determined that their ownership/management may be beholden to interests contrary to the welfare of the nation then sanctions should be applied, which may or may not include a ban. Who gets to decide and are you okay with people who have opposite political beliefs than you having the power to make that decision? > Approximately what dollar value of damage was done to schools as a result of the 'devious licks' viral videos trend from last year? And on what platform did those viral videos trend? I don’t know. If you’re okay with holding TikTok liable are you also okay with holding conservative media liable for January 6th? Would you have been okay with the government banning Doom because they think playing video games causes mass shootings? Do you think we should sue the gun manufacturers for shootings? In no other area of society do we think anyone should be blamed for criminal activities besides the criminals.
  - Dan_Sylveste 3y ago
    > Who gets to decide A bipartisan committee will suffice. > holding conservative media liable The subject is foreign adversaries, not domestic strife. Let's not get derailed. > the government banning Doom The subject is foreign adversaries > sue the gun manufacturers The subject is foreign adversaries > In no other area of society Yes, we absolutely do. When companies bring out predatory sales techniques (such as lootboxes in video games) these techniques absolutely do attract oversight, sanctions and - in cases - outright bans. It's well recognised that people can be led astray and there are many legal avenues available to prevent significant impact.
    - scarface_74 3y ago
      > A bipartisan committee will suffice. A bipartisan “Right Think” committee of officials get to come together and decide what media should be banned? How would that have worked out if those commie sympathizers who were trying to get the good Black folks in the south to rise up against segregation? > The subject is foreign adversaries So you’re okay with domestic adversaries like the ones who invaded the capital because they were riled up by domestic media? > When companies bring out predatory sales techniques Aren’t all addictive substances “predatory”? Do you think we should bring back Prohibition
      - Dan_Sylveste 3y ago
        > what media should be banned No media is being banned. The same content creators can create their content on another platform, or even the same platform, if that platform agrees to incorporate locally so as to be meaningfully under the control of legislation. > So you’re okay with Derail attempt ignored > bring back Prohibition Derail attempt ignored
        scarface_74 3y ago
        > No media is being banned. The same content creators can create their content on another platform Do you feel the same way if the government suppressing media on Twitter? Facebook? HN? > if that platform agrees to incorporate locally so as to be meaningfully under the control of legislation.l So now we are back to the government controlling media. Shouldn’t we also want the government to bring EU media under their control? Maybe we wouldn’t have to deal with cookie banners… How am I derailing anything? Are you not saying that the government should ban TikTok because it’s harmful?