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“A spambot barfed its post recipe on my blog”
- taspeotis 12y agoScott Hanselman blogged about a similar experience [1]. [1] http://www.hanselman.com/blog/ExposedABlogCommentSpammersSourceTemplate.aspx http://www.hanselman.com/blog/ExposedABlogCommentSpammersSou...
- Kronopath 12y agoSurprisingly similar, actually. Many of the sentences look exactly the same.
- nissehulth 12y agoThat's what happens when you don't match your brackets.
- halosghost 12y agoFor anyone that doesn't like to deal with all of pastebin.com's horrible, here's the raw link: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=U7jv9jxS http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=U7jv9jxS All the best,
- towelguy 12y agopastebin's horrible {design|font choice|wrapping|what}?
- halosghost 12y agoIt's a rather general problem. It has ads, requires scripting (to view text!), breaks formatting, doesn't have sensible syntax highlighting available, etc. Imho, it's probably the worst paste client anyone could use for anything. http://ix.io http://ix.io and http://sprunge.us http://sprunge.us are significantly better alternatives. But, if one is dead-set on using pastebin.com, the least they could do is post the raw link so users can escape some of the horrible.
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- ipsin 12y agoSearching for a common string ("and bloggers made good content as you did") shows about 400k results. What's the payload here? So what's the payoff here? Based on the text it looks like IE malware, but it could be site visits or back-links or something else.
- r00fus 12y agoI imagine payoff is about building an astroturf to spawn adoption or increase SERPs - essentially gaming search engine algorithms.
- earless1 12y agoHow are these templates parsed? I mean what code goes through these and decides which word to use?
- fmela 12y agoIt probably just chooses a word at random from each {} clause.
- abecedarius 12y agoYou can see a much fancier text-generator of this sort at http://eblong.com/zarf/mutagen/about.html http://eblong.com/zarf/mutagen/about.html (I once ported it to Python and wrote a parser for a more-convenient syntax like the OP's, then never released it partly because I'd hate to see spammers using it.)
- yohoho22 12y agoThat's called "spintax" and the overall approach is known as article spinning[1]. There's a small industry of software tools that facilitate that sort of thing (e.g. The Best Spinner[2]). Seems to be dying out as that kind of posting is more likely to get you penalized quickly nowadays rather than produce any real results. [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_spinning http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_spinning [2]http://thebestspinner.com/ http://thebestspinner.com/
- feybay 12y agoAren't article spinning bots similar to stock trading bots in that somebody would only sell the bot if it wasn't working anymore?
- hayksaakian 12y agonot necessarily. a big strategy for gray/black hat tools is to sell the tools rather than using them to leverage risk. Imagine a 100$ tool that might return 0 to 200$, the tool author sells the dream, and collects a more reliable income.
- thejosh 12y agoYep, this is how forums work. Tools are very rare compared to other sold services because making tools are hard, and making a tool that people want to buy even harder. You may see software like TheBestSpinner, XRumer and another one I can't remember the name of, basically a Wordpress comment spammer cannon that sell thousands of copies, more than that person would make using these tools themselves.
- funkyy 12y agoThere is also Scrapebox for blogs and Senuke for other. They have been around since few years...
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- jrockway 12y agoThe { grammar | word choice | punctuation | sentence structure } could really benefit from some { improvement | modification | proofreading }.
- ckuehl 12y agoWith that said, the English is actually quite good compared to most of the spam I see (although some of the synonyms don't make sense, so were probably automatically generated).
- somerandomone 12y agoI don't understand, what's the point of such spamming? It's not advertising a brand or a product at first sight (I read it casually).
- devindotcom 12y agoI would guess it's automated to establish a 'legitimate' posting history so that any future actual spam is not so easily detected.
- mod 12y agoI'm guessing the username / URL link back with a keyword to some kind of page that is needing ranked. Example: Name: "Red T-Shirts" URL (optional): "http://red-tshirt-site.com/" http://red-tshirt-site.com/" Then they'll perform better for that keyword (maybe--google eventually penalizes this).
- Gracana 12y agoOften you'll see wordpress comments where the comment is some generic praise to make it seem legitimate and avoid deletion, and the "website" field is filled out so their username is a link to wherever they want.
- prawn 12y agoOne of my sites gets these every now and then and, given that the website field is omitted on my forum, users are usually quite bemused at the mysterious intent of the authors.
- spacecowboy_lon 12y agoyou can see people trying this on Matt Cutts Blog you know I dont think anyones real name is "Indian SEO" :-)
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- thejosh 12y agoIt's pretty much useless now that Google actually penalises people for this - pretty funny that brands who use to do this now have to beg for their spam to be removed. Basically they would spam these out to not look overly spammy, and have their website and name listed as their website they are trying to promote as people use to believe that having millions of shitty backlinks is good SEO.
- gesman 12y agoBack in a days I built something like that, albeit as a exercise (never used for spamming): http://www.25pix.com/organic-text-generator/ http://www.25pix.com/organic-text-generator/
- jszymborski 12y agolol I've totally seen that in the wild
- TrainedMonkey 12y agoThis is pretty outdated tool to cheaply generate "unique" versions of the articles in order to fool search engines in terms on "link juice". What you normally do is hire someone for $5-100[0] to write an article and manually or using a tool generate spintax version. During posting bot would simply select a random alternative from the spin list. When Google started to use machine learning to filter out machine generated content this out this method quickly lost effectiveness. However, it is more effective on less sophisticated search engines so using this will show some benefit. One of the more current methods is markov chain based article generation with provided keywords. And perhaps more importantly paying people to write content. [0] With internet proliferation this has dropped substantially.
- nissehulth 12y agoIt's not always about the potential link juice, it can simply be a way to display a link in hope that people will click it.
- api 12y agoReminds me of my favorite email spam ever, from many years ago: Subject was: "Dear java.lang.NullPointerException, you have been selected to receive..."
- lucaspiller 12y agoObligatory XKCD link: http://xkcd.com/327/ http://xkcd.com/327/ The company I'm working for has alarms which monitor log files for "FATAL" and the like, some of them also contain user input, so naming your kid something like this is another good way to annoy some ops people :D
- nl 12y agoThe guy who published a book about XSS, which ended up causing an XSS exploit on Amazon via the "book preview" function[1] is my favorite version of that. There was also an attempted attack on the Swedish voting system via a handwritten SQL injection attack, but that was unsuccessful[2]. [1] https://drwetter.eu/amazon/storedXSS-vuln.at.amazon.html https://drwetter.eu/amazon/storedXSS-vuln.at.amazon.html [2] http://alicebobandmallory.com/articles/2010/09/23/did-little-bobby-tables-migrate-to-sweden http://alicebobandmallory.com/articles/2010/09/23/did-little...
- notfoss 12y ago"language of the year award."
- DonHopkins 12y agoSilly spammer: That makes absolutely no sense at all! Java has references, not pointers. Everybody knows that. Pfff!
- austenallred 12y agoYou can search for the longer phrases in the spintax and find all of the places this spam was dropped before it apparently "barfed its recipe." It's pretty fascinating - Google returns over 600,000 results: https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=%22time+to+make+some+plans+for+the+future+and%22+%22time+to+be+happy%22 https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=%22time+to+make+some+pl... Looking at this link (http://prophesyagain.org/radio/#comment-98 http://prophesyagain.org/radio/#comment-98), it looks like this spam was left for a URL that redirects to http://www.itunescoms.com/ http://www.itunescoms.com/, a fake looking iTunes knockoff that probably drops all kinds of nasty adware/malware on your PC. For those unindoctrinated in SEO spam, the trick is to get past the spam filter, then leave a link in the name/username. You generate hundreds of thousands of backlinks to one page, which Google considers "votes" for your website. You can either send links directly to your "money site" or you can send them somewhere else and do a 301 redirect, passing the link juice. Usually a spammer starts using something like Scraperbox and a lot of proxies to find thousands of blogs or forums with open comment fields, then use a script like the OP plugged into something like XRumer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XRumer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XRumer). The syntax of the OP is called spintax, and it basically chooses a random word inside of the {}s, creating an infinite number of comments. You find a few hundred thousand open comment fields to post in, ride a little wave of SEO boost until Google finds you and kills your site, rinse and repeat. Nowadays most spam syntax as simple as the OP will be caught in filters or penalized by Google, but most spammers are actually really bad at what they do (as you can see by them forgetting a bracket and dumping the entire spintax).
- mortehu 12y ago> Google returns over 600,000 results Tip: The result count estimate on the first result page is often off by several orders of magnitude. Often it's possible to navigate to the end of the results pretty quickly, and the number drops to something like 469: https://www.google.com/search?q="time+to+make+some+plans+for+the+future+and"+"time+to+be+happy"&num=100&safe=off&start=500 https://www.google.com/search?q="time+to+make+some+plans+for...
- devindotcom 12y ago
- dustintran 12y agoI'm curious to see when spam bots will eventually use sophisticated language models in order to generate text, aimed to combat a search engine's own machine learning algorithms which detect spam. Barring the actual scenario where Google's resources are larger and Google's employees more intelligent than spammers, it would be interesting to see spam bots generate more and more intelligent content in a war of the AI.
- digi_owl 12y agoMakes me think of Doctorow's When Sysadmins Ruled the Earth. http://craphound.com/overclocked/2014/01/14/when-sysadmins-ruled-the-earth-mobi-and-epub/ http://craphound.com/overclocked/2014/01/14/when-sysadmins-r...
- userbinator 12y agoit would be interesting to see spam bots generate more and more intelligent content in a war of the AI. http://xkcd.com/810/ http://xkcd.com/810/
- Yizahi 12y agoWe need some system to assign XKCD score to discussions - how may relevant XKCDs were linked in them :) .
- pknerd 12y agoWOW. Loved this comment template. It could have a legitimate use in software development to generate some meaningful random text for mockups.
- nerfhammer 12y agoYou can use a context-free grammar to produce amusing and sometimes convincing writing if the writing style it's intended to imitate is sufficiently obtuse, e.g.: http://davidsd.org/2009/01/the-real-theorem-generator-a-context-free-grammar/ http://davidsd.org/2009/01/the-real-theorem-generator-a-cont... http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/ http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/
- digi_owl 12y agoIn other words, a bullshit generator?
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- oxfordbiochron 12y agoYep, that is pretty old school. http://NoMoreCaptchas.com http://NoMoreCaptchas.com pretty much eliminates bots and all you have to worry about is human farmers manually writing comments with links embedded in Viagra or what ever the latest pharmaceucitcal is.
- jackgavigan 12y agoThis sort of thing happens quite regularly: https://twitter.com/jackgavigan/status/485833011184041984 https://twitter.com/jackgavigan/status/485833011184041984
- towelguy 12y agoMan: Well, what've you got? Waitress: Well, there's {egg|bacon|sausage}, {egg and bacon|egg and spam}, egg {bacon|sausage} and spam, {spam|bacon} {spam| spam spam} sausage and spam, {spam|egg} spam spam {bacon and spam|sausage and spam}; spam {bacon|sausage|spam} {spam|spam bacon|spam tomato bacon} and spam
- msc96 12y agoI should write my job search emails like this.