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Nexus 6

• PhrosTT 12y ago
  The fact that this has a thunderbolt resolution display shows how lame it is most desktops haven't adopted 4k yet.
  • romanovcode 12y ago
    4k monitors are not that rare/pricy. You can get pretty cheap 60hz ones from Asus and the best ones from DELL. Problem is that most consumers who would buy those monitors would expect every application to run on it without problem, that includes games and for that you need to spend a lot of money on GPUs.
    • Coding_Cat 12y ago
      I'd say the real problem is the fact that the affordable ones you mention, tend to have terrible specs apart from resolution (and latency). Low contrast, bleeding, terrible colour representation. At least that was my experience.
    • wlesieutre 12y ago
      Before anyone goes jumping on the "best ones" from Dell, take a read through this 35 page support discussion about their UP2414Q: http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/peripherals/f/3529/t/19536443?pi23185=35 http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/peripherals/f/35... Anecdotal, but a friend and I both have problems with ours, and he got lucky with the 1.1 firmware revision (Dell won't let you upgrade it, you have to go through support for a replacement, and they'll send you a refurb that might have the newer firmware because they decided it would cost too much to update their existing inventory). And even then it might not work. He's waiting on Dell Support for his 3rd unit. Do yourself a favor and wait until DisplayPort 1.3 is widespread and can drive a 4k screen without using Multi-stream Transport. It's not worth the headache. Right now my computer is convinced that the left and right halves of my screen are separate displays and nothing will convince it otherwise. Other times MST will fail to connect and it only picks up 1/2 the resolution in the middle, with 1/4 width black bars on the left and right. From what I remember reading, Dell botched the DisplayPort handshake, and the workarounds that AMD/Nvidia have put into their drivers to try and fix it aren't 100%. I need to return mine for backlight flicker too. But I'll write that off an an excusable manufacturing flaw that's going to pop up occasionally on some number of any model. EDIT: Just for perspective, this is a screen with an MSRP around $1100, though we both bought ours on sale. The amount of shit we're dealing with for a screen that expensive is not reasonable.
      • wlesieutre 12y ago
        UPDATE My friend's 3rd display just came in this afternoon. When he plugs it in and turns it on, the computer stops responding. When he turns it off, the computer resumes working normally. Ordinarily I would scream "driver problem" at that one, but the 2nd screen did not have this problem with the same GPU and driver installation. (That one just randomly disconnected and reconnected every 30 seconds or so) He's trying it on different computers next, further updates as events warrant... UPDATE 2 Hooked up to his Mac. It flickers on and then goes blank. Even running at 30 Hz on single-stream transport, it doesn't work over DisplayPort. HDMI works at 30 Hz, but DisplayPort 1.2 with MST is the only option with enough bandwidth for 4k at 60 Hz.
      • azatris 12y ago
        > Do yourself a favor and wait until DisplayPort 1.3 is widespread and can drive a 4k screen without using Multi-stream Transport. It's not worth the headache. It reminds me of getting an external monitor for my T420 from Dell and seeing that DisplayPort to DisplayPort 1.2 cables are practically non-existant. I ended up getting one after hours of search online, the only proper manufacturer of these being Lenovo itself. I wonder if the situation gets any better...
        • wlesieutre 12y ago
          I was under the impression that DP's cables have all been backward compatible, and a 1.0 device could just plug into a 1.2 screen and work. Not the case?
      • pcvarmint 12y ago
        I have my UP3214Q working just fine. You need to A) make the SIMULATED_* monitor settings match the 4K ones; and B) use an HDMI cable along with the displayport cable. My instructions are here: http://jmswrnr.com/blog/the-firmware-issues-of-dell-up3214q-and-up2414q-a00-monitors/#comment-1608588263 http://jmswrnr.com/blog/the-firmware-issues-of-dell-up3214q-...
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  • mkhalil 12y ago
    Just got up a Seiki 39" from Walmart.com for $329. After some flashing and calibration, its a beast! Highly recommended for day to day/dev use. Gaming, too, but not in 4k. It can do 1080p 120hz.
    • tanderson92 12y ago
      Can you elaborate on the flashing/calibration? Is that to get better than 30Hz at native 4K resolutions? For coding / web browsing, how good is the screen (i.e. can you notice lag for those use cases). I have heard mixed things about the Seki 39" but it looks like it could be a great development monitor
      • alex_c 12y ago
        I use one for development and love it. There is lag and it is noticeable - it's most noticeable for moving the mouse cursor, and it is somewhat annoying because it makes any mouse operation feel slower and less precise. The lag doesn't really affect anything else I do. Still worth it for the price IMO, the screen real estate makes a huge difference in my productivity.
        • illicium 12y ago
          If it only does 1080p, you're not getting any additional screen real estate, just huge pixels.
          • mkhalil 12y ago
            It's 4k.
          • alex_c 12y ago
            It's basically the equivalent of four 20" 1080p monitors with no border between them. For (nowadays) a bit over $300. Pretty nuts.
      • mkhalil 12y ago
        Sure. Flashed it with SE50UY04, the 50 inch models, firmware. Just extracted the zip, put the install.img on a FAT32 formatted USB drive, and went into the secret menu (with the menu open press 0000) and updated the firmware. After that I started with these calibration numbers: Contrast: 42 Brightness: 66 Color: 34 Sharpness: 0 Color Temp: normal Turned off Noise Correction. --These settings can be changed in the secret menu - other settings options. Red Gain: 141 Blue Gain: 126 Green Gain: 132 Red Offset: 532 Blue Offset: 510 Green Offset: 504 DCC: Off Backlight: 75 And modified it to my liking. Actually had my Macbook Retina open next to it and sort of color matched. My numbers could vary greatly from these. My backlight is at like 50. Overall, I'm really happy with it. Yes there is a mouse lag, but the 50" firmware makes it LESS noticeable. Also tbh, you sort of get used to it. In my case I try to minimize mouse usage anyway.
  • wmf 12y ago
    I've seen no evidence that 490 DPI has any advantage over ~300 DPI; it sounds like spec wanking. And there are rumors of a 5K retina iMac tomorrow (4K tends to be a downgrade from 2560x1600).
    • chongli 12y ago
      Downgrade? 4K is 4096x2160! Sounds like an upgrade from 2560x1600.
      • ninkendo 12y ago
        I think that he means with the typical pixel-doubling you get with "retina" branded screens, UI elements on 4096x2160 would actually have the same on-screen size as UI elements on a non-retina 1080p display, which on a 27" screen is probably too big. (27" iMacs are 2560x1600 which makes onscreen elements considerably smaller than if they were 1080p.) OSX on a "5K" 27" display would maintain the same size of on-screen elements as the current 27" iMac, but everything would be twice as sharp. I would probably buy one in a heartbeat if the price is right. (Edit: I guess the other alternative is that OSX would use a 4k screen but would do some graphics card tricks to render everything at 5120x3200 and downsample it to 4096x2160, but that's an odd ratio (5/4-ish) so things may not look as good. That's what they do on retina MBP's when you set the display settings to "more space", which renders everything smaller.)
  • aroch 12y ago
    It's significantly harder to produce large, 4K panels without imperfections when compared to small panels.
  • WatchDog 12y ago
    What on earth is a "thunderbolt resolution display"?
• metabrew 12y ago
  I've bought every nexus phone when they were released, but I'm not sure about this one. The nexus 5 is already a bit oversized IMO. This thing is ridiculous.
  • wmf 12y ago
    Fortunately the Moto X 2 looks like basically a Nexus.
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  • romanovcode 12y ago
    For me it was pretty disappointing that iPhone jumped the size bandwagon with their latest phone as well. Bigger != Better
    • phaus 12y ago
      I'm glad they released a 4.7" phone, but the plus is just ridiculous.
      • wlesieutre 12y ago
        4.7" should be the plus, if you ask me. I'm dreading the day my 3.5" phone dies and has no reasonable modern replacement. EDIT: I'm open to switching to Android for my next phone if anyone can point my to a small one. Priorities are good camera, ok battery life, and not awful build quality. And maybe good support from Cyanogen? I'm out of the loop on Android and don't have a sense of how important that is these days. But IIRC Cyanogen comes with real permissions control and some other things I'd like, coming from iOS. Halp!
        • eunoia 12y ago
          Why do you like the small screen so much?
• ccozan 12y ago
  Finally, a Motorola Nexus! A mighty succesor to the Moto X-es.
  • bsimpson 12y ago
    The Moto X has been a Nexus-ish device at carrier prices. This is an actual Nexus device, still at carrier prices. If it was < $400, I might have sold my 5 and given it a go. At $650, I have no incentive to go for this vs. any other device (or to upgrade at all for that matter).
• usav 12y ago
  There's a typo in the spec area where they mixed up front and rear cameras
• smackfu 12y ago
  How do you announce a phone without a price? That is always a terrible idea. Edit: I guess it's $649.
  • davb 12y ago
    According to http://motorola-blog.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/nexus-6-from-google-and-motorola-more.html http://motorola-blog.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/nexus-6-from-goo..., yes - starting at $649. I wonder how that'll translate to GBP...
    • Numberwang 12y ago
      I bet it will be £649..
      • suhailpatel 12y ago
        Yep pretty how most companies price their tech in the UK, change $ to £ and call it a day (we pay a premium even with VAT added onto the USD price)
• Siecje 12y ago
  > Camera > 13MP front-facing with optical image stabilization > 2MP rear-facing Is it really 13MP front-facing? Selfie optimization!
  • Zikes 12y ago
    It's a typo. If you click the blue <> button next to the specs you get more details, including the corrected version of this.
  • Istof 12y ago
    hopefully that is a typo (it was, it's been fixed already)
  • tgcordell 12y ago
    I caught this too. Must be a typo-switcheroo
  • tremendo 12y ago
    I was confused by that too, seems they switched the definition of front and rear. The new "way" is used consistently also on the Nexus 9 and Nexus 5 tabs.
    • Istof 12y ago
      maybe that is a mistake made on purpose to get more people talking about it...
  • z02d 12y ago
    This is the real new selfie phone ;-) Must be a typo (also in the German Translation)
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• Cakez0r 12y ago
  Display 5.96” 1440 x 2560 display (493 ppi) Insane!
  • jclarkcom 12y ago
    1440 x 2560 is becoming more common. LG G3 has the same resolution but a higher pixel density (538 ppi). Samsung also has a 1440 x 2560 phone.
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  • kybernetyk 12y ago
    2560 x 1440 - that's the resolution of my 27" monitor.
• z02d 12y ago
  http://www.google.com/nexus/9/ http://www.google.com/nexus/9/
• omnibrain 12y ago
  So apparently there is no 7" tablet anymore. I think that makes sense, since the 7" tablets get cannibalized by the ever growing smartphones. After I bought a Nexus 7 I started to carry it around all the time. I used my Galaxy Nexus less and less (only for calls and whatsapp) so after a short time (when the Galaxy Nexus started to show its age) I decided I can live with an even smaller (and not so flexible) phone and bought an 5s. Now, with the Nexus 6 I may be able to retire both and get back to only carrying one device with me.
  • IkmoIkmo 12y ago
    Yup, good point. I think the sweet spot for phones is about 5 inches now (up to about 5.3 with thin bezels) and for tablets it's probably around 8-9 inches. When I bought my gf a Nexus 7 and she still had her iphone 4 (3.5 inch), the Nexus made a lot of sense. But now that she has a Nexus 5, she doesn't use it nearly as often, and if she had a nexus 6 that effect would be even greater.
  • blocke 12y ago
    7" screen was the perfect size for reading books and comics in my opinion. I'd preferred to have gotten a new 7" with smaller bezels. Might as well skip this Nexus generation.
  • pjmlp 12y ago
    I never got into the tablets bandwagon. For me a phablet makes much more sense. I just want a powerful smartphone, for everything else there is my laptop.
    • wil421 12y ago
      Yes but tablets are great for pleasure. I wouldnt use my iPad to do work on but for browsing the internet on the couch or reading emails (usually non-work) it really excels for me. But I may be changing my mind as soon as my iPhone 6 plus gets here.
• fixedd 12y ago
  Any news yet on whether Verizon is going to fumble it as badly as they did the Galaxy Nexus?
• codezero 12y ago
  Very nice that all the physical buttons are on one side and also in the middle of the phone. The biggest gripe I have with the iPhone 6 Plus is that every time I try to lock it, I turn up the volume, and vice versa. The buttons are also way too high on the device. Not that it's particularly important, but the Nexus 6 was the model of the androids in Blade Runner, but I'm not sure if this phone is "more human than human." :)
  • kldavis4 12y ago
    I've just switched cases on my Nexus 4 and I am having the exact same problem with the button positions. Very annoying.
  • leetrout 12y ago
    I actually dislike that feature on my Lumia 920. It's hard to get it in a holder tight enough to hold it and not mash the power or camera button.
    • codezero 12y ago
      Interesting! I assume that this problem would exist no matter where the keys are placed, assuming the holder doesn't handle the keys gracefully :)
  • jusben1369 12y ago
    Yeah I always thought that's why they jumped over 6 to name the tablets. Nexus 6 is a bit of a burn to the legacy it tips its hat to.
  • auggierose 12y ago
    One upvote for the Bladerunner mention. That would really be the only reason for me to upgrade from my Nexus 5 to a Nexus 6 :-)
• PankajGhosh 12y ago
  What is the reason for nexus devices to not have fingerprint scanners?
  • lucian1900 12y ago
    Possibly because they're pointless.
    • jarjoura 12y ago
      really? I absolutely love it on my iPhone 6!
      • zamabe 12y ago
        Really. They've been demonstrated to be easy to break. You leave your impossible-to-change fingerprints (basically your permanent "password") lying around everywhere you go. I'm quite happy that android manufacturers aren't encouraging users to think that profligate "security" is a feature. http://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2013/ccc-breaks-apple-touchid http://www.ccc.de/en/updates/2013/ccc-breaks-apple-touchid https://www.schneier.com/essays/archives/1999/08/biometrics_uses_and.html https://www.schneier.com/essays/archives/1999/08/biometrics_...
• andrewstuart2 12y ago
  Nexus 9 as well.
• munchor 12y ago
  Everything about it looks great except for the 6'' screen. I understand the appeal of big screens, but 6'' is just too much.
  • Siecje 12y ago
    I think they might keep the Nexus 5 around. Maybe in the future they will update it with a bigger battery and better camera.
    • tremendo 12y ago
      > they might… Indeed http://www.google.com/nexus/5/ http://www.google.com/nexus/5/ and http://www.google.com/nexus/9/ http://www.google.com/nexus/9/
      • otoburb 12y ago
        Too bad the Nexus 5 can't be upgraded to replace the battery with the rapid-charge battery technology they are touting for the Nexus 6. >>Get up to 6 hours of use from only 15 minutes of charging.
        • kec 12y ago
          There's no real special technology there, if you do the math on their claim it works out to a maximum power draw from the charger of 12-15W, which is about on par with most tablets. This is just a function of having a large surface area to dissipate waste heat.
  • ZenoArrow 12y ago
    I felt exactly the same way, everything was well thought out (camera, battery, speakers, etc...) apart from the screen size. The consensus seems to be that 5 inches is the absolute maximum for most people (aside from phablet fans). It's such a shame because it's so close to perfect (for this generation at least). I do wonder what kind of market research phone companies do because I could have very easily predicted this negative outcome, and I'm sure plenty of other people could too. At least it should be the first Nexus phone with decent battery life.
• suprgeek 12y ago
  This thing is a beast in every sense of the word! also with dual front speakers! That can make a huge difference in sound quality. However it looks like this is heading to $500+ territory so the days of a cheap good Nexus may be coming to an end. Looks like the Moto E etc is filling that niche.
  • scragg 12y ago
    The Nexus 5 is still available, which I hope they keep refreshing and maintaining its price point. But yea, Moto G, or E for anything cheaper is the way to go.
  • davb 12y ago
    The Motorola blog post says "starting at $649" http://motorola-blog.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/nexus-6-from-google-and-motorola-more.html http://motorola-blog.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/nexus-6-from-goo... This was the most disappointing thing for me. While it might be a fantastic device, and I might still choose it, at that price I'll be more carefully considering the alternatives. The Nexus 5, with its specifications and price point, was a no-brainer. This one doesn't make that decision quite to simple.
    • blocke 12y ago
      As someone against having any form of debt other than a mortgage or useless obligation such as a cellular contract: $649 is where I stop paying attention to the Nexus line. The hours worked to afford the device and it's needed case and accessories make the 6" screen not worth it. And trying to hide the cost behind a cellular contract brings that cost over a thousand dollars. Stupid.
  • hugozap 12y ago
    I don't understand the appeal of having dual front speakers, whats the point?. This is a feature a very small group of people will find useful, but adds to the price.
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• notjustanymike 12y ago
  3220 mAh battery. Wow.
• kaahne 12y ago
  If I scroll to the "Introducing Lollipop, our sweetest release yet" section, there's a google now card for a coffee place I've been to recently (in Portland, OR for that matter ...). It's uncanny...
  • ejp 12y ago
    I see that card as well! I am nowhere near Portland. I suspect you just got lucky. :)
  • meandave 12y ago
    That was weird for me too, I was just at heart last week.
• GeorgeMac 12y ago
  Another beautiful device and it is only at the cost of your privacy.
  • bdkauff 12y ago
    Can you elaborate?
    • BigBlackCamry 12y ago
      I think he's saying he rather use a landline, so they can't pin point his location via GPS
      • MiguelHudnandez 12y ago
        You would need a very long cord for that land line for that to be an effective countermeasure! I think it is just generic Google-hatred.
        • Artemis2 12y ago
          Well, you can still follow a cord...
          • BigBlackCamry 12y ago
            No, he has a point. If the cord is long enough, whoever is following it will get tired and turn around.
            • richbradshaw 12y ago
              Also you can tie the person up with the cord.
        • serf 12y ago
          why not just generic mobile-phone hatred? they are all privacy intrusive in some way or another. it's not all Brand Y vs. Brand X.
• paulannesley 12y ago
  iPhone 6 Plus: 5.5" 1920×1080 (401 ppi) Nexus 6: 5.96" 2560×1440 (493 ppi) The iPhone 6 Plus is comically enormous. This thing is ridiculous. And the same resolution as the current 27" Apple displays. 2.7 GHz quad core vs iPhone's 1.4 GHz dual core (but 32-bit, vs Apple's 64-bit). That is some serious hardware.
  • cromwellian 12y ago
    The Nexus 6 has smaller bezel on the top and bottom than the iPhone 6+ which has to make space for the TouchID/Home button. Android uses on-screen soft buttons.
    • boyaka 12y ago
      My biggest peeve with the onscreen buttons (using flagship Galaxy Nexus) is accidentally pressing them, primarily when I'm trying to take a selfie with the rear camera. It's insanely frustrating the way the orientation moves them around and trying to find the on-screen shutter button rather than clicking the home button.
      • macspoofing 12y ago
        Something that should be easily fixed by allowing power or volume buttons to take pictures. I'm not sure why that isn't the case.
  • rsynnott 12y ago
    It's a Qualcomm 805, so competitive with the iPhone 6's chip, but certainly not massively faster than it (and in practice somewhat slower in many scenarios). As we should remember from the Pentium 4 age, megahertz are not everything.
  • zelos 12y ago
    Anandtech&Wikipedia suggest the Nexus's Krait CPU is 4-instructions wide vs iPhone's 6-instructions wide?
• gregwebs 12y ago
  > front-facing speakers Great! This is why I bought an HTC One M8 instead of a Nexus 5. Great for speakerphone or if you do watch a video on that high resolution display. It amazes me how the essentials get sacrificed really easily and that consumers often don't demand better when they are purchasing. I would buy a Mac, but I do have to demand a matte screen instead of just getting accustomed to glare.
  • gurkendoktor 12y ago
    The glare has been reduced a lot in recent Macs. I'm not sure if it's as good as the anti-glare screen you could order for some MacBook Pros in the past, though.
• bicx 12y ago
  I'm thinking the real deal-breaker for me will be the camera, which seems to be the same as the mediocre Moto X camera. Otherwise, it looks like a nice device. Nothing particularly amazing, except for stock Lollipop.
  • dozy 12y ago
    Actually it seems it's a different camera than the 2014 Moto X, my evidence being primarily the larger aperture size, also OIS.
• tatqx 12y ago
  The nexus font is too big on the back of the phone.
• chdir 12y ago
  The trend of correlating device number (i.e. Nexus 'X') with screen size is going in the wrong direction. 6 is already too big (and heavy) for some. Next year, there'll be no distinction between phones & tablets. Edit: Disappointed with the pricing too: $649. Google had set a good trend with Nexus series - Awesome devices at exception price. All that's gone. Kind of against the Android One initiative.
  • nilkn 12y ago
    > 6 is already too big for some. Are the actual dimensions of the phone known? This matters a lot because screen size is only an approximate indicator of device size. For instance, the iPhone 6 Plus has a 5.5" screen and yet is very noticeably larger than the Samsung Galaxy Note 3, which has a larger 5.7" screen.
    • chdir 12y ago
      Dimensions : 82.98mm x 159.26mm x 10.06mm Weight : 184g Source : http://www.google.com/nexus/6/ http://www.google.com/nexus/6/
      • nilkn 12y ago
        Ahh, I didn't realize that the specs section had an expandable button to see more details. It's definitely a huge phone, although barely taller than the 6 Plus, which is exactly what I suspected.
        • SloopJon 12y ago
          I missed that too. I was looking for the weight of the Nexus 9 (slightly less than the iPad Air).
    • ccozan 12y ago
      From the page : 82,98 mm x 159,26 mm x 10,06 mm. Ok, 8cm broad, is not that much as I thought.
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• PButcher93 12y ago
  Shame they didn't release a new Nexus 7.
• Siecje 12y ago
  No Wireless charging?
  • TheQwerty 12y ago
    Google's spec don't list it but Motorola's claim it does support Qi: https://www.motorola.com/us/Nexus-6/nexus-6-motorola-us.html#nexus-6-specs https://www.motorola.com/us/Nexus-6/nexus-6-motorola-us.html...
• jordanpg 12y ago
  I see an important question looming on the 5-year horizon: how are people going to be carrying these large devices? Clearly carrying large phones in pockets is impossible for many, increasingly impractical for many more, and simply undesirable to the curious. Will handbags or hip bags become common for all? Will the average size of phones rebound and approach some smaller-screen equilibrium size near 5"? Everything depends on the adoption of these devices by younger people -- whatever becomes "cool". My prediction is that phones will become strapped to arms or shirts somehow. I see some sort of arm-hoslter or dedicated shirt pocket that comfortably, securely houses a mini-tablet.
  • jl6 12y ago
    Arm holster is the way to go, like a Pip-boy.
    • robmcm 12y ago
      Isn't the size of your arm/hand coupled to the size of your pocket? After all a pocket that can't fit a hand isn't a pocket.
  • eunoia 12y ago
    I think the pocket problem is a little over played (at least for men). The 6+ fits fine in the pocket of my hipster skinny jeans. The strap idea is interesting. I have a hard time imagining a phone that gets people who aren't already carrying purses to start doing so. In addition to the social awkwardness (man purse?) it's just so much harder to lose something that you keep directly on your person.
  • freehunter 12y ago
    >Clearly carrying large phones in pockets is impossible... impractical... and... undesirable. People keep saying that and time and time again it's proven wrong. It has been wrong for years, and it will keep being wrong. If large phones were impossible, impractical, and undesirable, people would stop buying them. But they're not. They're demanding them in such large numbers that even Apple has put out a massive, massive phone. Even Nokia put out a massive phone. Samsung started matching the size of their flagship to the size of their largest phone years ago. Every manufacturer has a huge phone, because the majority of the buying public wants a huge phone. But still I hear people say "big phones will never catch on". Guess what? They did catch on, and they're not big phones anymore. After several years of being big phones, they're just called phones now.
• ccozan 12y ago
  Pricing and more info here: http://motorola-blog.blogspot.de/2014/10/nexus-6-from-google-and-motorola-more.html http://motorola-blog.blogspot.de/2014/10/nexus-6-from-google...
• dferlemann 12y ago
  Feel more like marketing data collecting, to see how size the phone relates the sales... I'm interested to know the result. Personally, it's definitely too big.
• dmix 12y ago
  Was the Nexus 5 refreshed at all? I can't tell by the website.
  • 1a2a3a4a 12y ago
    I do not think it was (yet).
  • gohrt 12y ago
    Last year, the N4 got a price cut before the N5 launched. This year, no such. The Nexus 6 is so hugely expensive that the line may just sit and stagnate on the "price:performance" frontier. :-(
  • lmedinas 12y ago
    In my opinion as a owner of a N5 there is no need for a refresh now. The hardware (except battery and camera) are still on top of the tree. All the snapdragon 801 and 805 are "minor" upgrades to the snapdragon 800 shipped by the N5.
• 4k 12y ago
  Why the storage on all high end phones is stuck at 64gb? I honestly would like to have more storage space.
  • leftnode 12y ago
    Help drive adoption of Google cloud storage would be my guess.
    • 4k 12y ago
      For Google/Apple it makes sense, but this is the case with all the handset manufacturers. Like, what does HTC, LG etc have to gain by limiting storage size?
      • sosborn 12y ago
        Lower price points.
  • bobbyi_settv 12y ago
    SD card support would be even better. I recently got a 128 GB SD card for my phone and it's great to finally have as much storage for music as I used to have on my iPod Classic (I use Google Play Music All Access, which allows saving as much as you want to local storage).
    • boyaka 12y ago
      It has always been standard for Nexus phones to not have SD card expansion [1]. Whether it is justifiable is up for debate. I've always assumed the main reason is so they can sell people overpriced storage upgrades and push people into buying a new device. [1] http://www.androidcentral.com/why-nexus-devices-have-no-sd-card http://www.androidcentral.com/why-nexus-devices-have-no-sd-c...
      • jewbacca 12y ago
        1. The Nexus line is supposed to be something like Google's Android reference device, and implements the minimum common set of features -- up-to-date computing hardware and screen, reasonable-resolution cameras, standard set of sensors (GPS, acceleration, etc.). An SD card slot doesn't really add any technical possibilities. 2. Google probably wants to push the idea that any storage beyond local apps should be to the cloud. (which is comically unviable in Canada, where you're paying $25-50 per 1 GB of mobile data) --- I recently got a Nexus 5 after a long search for a replacement for my stalwart iPhone 3GS. The lack of SD card was the primary sticking point, and caused me days of choice-agony. In the end, price and "cleanliness" (stock android, lack of shitware, doesn't fight software customization very hard) won out.
• joliss 12y ago
  Full specs: https://i.imgur.com/S0ifg2B.png https://i.imgur.com/S0ifg2B.png Of note: Nano SIM, 493 ppi display, 4K video recording. (The specs on the Google page have a button to expand them. It's a bit hidden and not linkable, hence the screenshot.)
  • natmaster 12y ago
    But how much volatile memory does it have?
    • final 12y ago
      At least 4 thousand words IMHO.
    • natmaster 12y ago
      3GB FYI ^^
• Coding_Cat 12y ago
  >With a large 3220 mAh battery, you get over 24 hours of use from a full charge. I would hope so, call me old-fashioned but I would say that once a day is the absolute limit on how many times I'd accept having to charge my phone. Of course, you don't use your phone 24 hours in a day (at least I hope you don't) however, marketing being what it is they generally mean "very very light usage" when they quote battery-life.
  • maccard 12y ago
    I'm at a desk in work, so I have my (3 year old iPhone) phone plugged in all day.
    • Coding_Cat 12y ago
      I tend to do so to, my phone has it's own spot on my desk, where I keep the charger. So charging it daily would not be a problem for me _most days_. However, say I'm doing some travelling for example I will tend to use my phone a lot throughout the day. Be it listening to music, playing a game while waiting on $MODE_OF_TRANSPORTATION or browsing the web. That would be one of the days were I would pretty pissed if my phone would not last throughout the day, or I would have to make constant considerations like "If I watch this movie now, will I have enough battery life left to make a call if my flight gets delayed".
      • Kalium 12y ago
        Generally those time-measurements are based around assumptions about typical use. If you're constantly using your radio and your screen and making it do processing, you cannot hope to come anything close to typical usage.
  • nilkn 12y ago
    That's slightly larger than the 3200 mAh battery that my Note 3 has and I have no issues with battery life. Granted, the Nexus 6 has a larger and higher resolution screen. But it also runs a cleaner version of Android which I expect would be less power hungry.
• whizzkid 12y ago
  Come on, stop with making bigger and bigger phones. I do not think, this is how technology should evolve.
• fataliss 12y ago
  I don't see any details on the body anywhere. I'm assuming the sides are in aluminium, but what about the back? I always hated the cheap android phone for their glossy cheap plastic feel. (Also the reason why I can't stand any case on my iPhone) But with a price point around 650$ I'm expecting some more premium feel.
• joshmn 12y ago
  The one thing I've waited for is the DSP support so I can just say "OK Google" and go instead of having to do a long-press.
• 51Cards 12y ago
  Sadly this will bring the Nexus buying streak for me to an end. 6" is too large... the price is too high. Too bad though, that battery and camera would have been nice. I think the Nexus 5 will hold for another year.
  • arenaninja 12y ago
    I agree with all your points and also own a Nexus 5, but I'll keep it until it dies. I kept an LG Optimus for 3 years, to the point that I replaced it when I couldn't reliably make a phone call. My one gripe with the Nexus 5 is that the camera is pretty bad, and I find the controls pretty awful too Hopefully there'll be some refresh on hardware for the 5" phone
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• IkmoIkmo 12y ago
  Can anyone explain to me what the fetish is with pushing the same amount of pixels as a freaking 27 inch display (which, by the way, I've always considered gorgeous)? I mean, does anyone actually notice the difference? Because if that difference means I'm paying $100-200 extra for a better screen, a better graphics chip etc, and it means my battery life is reduced, I really just don't get it. I elaborated a bit on this question here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8459761 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8459761 Anyway... my biggest gripe is really price point. The Nexus 4, 5, 7 weren't any more interesting than devices coming out from Samsung or HTC. What made them unique was a sick performance/price ratio, the best mid-level entry device range for people who aren't interested in $500 a year fees for their phone+plan, yet like running the latest android on a nice device. Now we seem to get another high-range flagship-type phone and tablet. I kinda get it, you want a benchmark device and you've got moto filling the lower-mid range quite nicely, but I really wish they'd have kept the Nexus series below the $500 range. Love the thickness by the way. 10mm or so is great. Not a thick slab, but it's got some real grip to it. iPhone 6's thickness really sucks for me. (although it's a slightly different story when you add a case, I did like the thickness of the iphone 6 with a case when I tried it)
  • toyg 12y ago
    > does anyone actually notice the difference Yes.
    • IkmoIkmo 12y ago
      You notice pixel density between 400 and 450, or 450 and 500 when holding the phone normally (at say a bit less than an arm's length usually) I mean, I notice FPS changes from 60 to 90, but I wouldn't pay even a dollar extra for it. I'm not actually wondering if you can notice, I'm wondering if it makes an actual impact on your viewing experience. And if so, if that impact (however big or small, feel free to elaborate) is worth the extra money we can all assume it costs to buy hardware capable of pushing a lot of extra pixels smoothly. And lastly, if that different not only is worth the price, but also the hit to battery life we can all assume exists. That, to me, just seems like a really tall order. (if anyone has some insights as to how big the impact is on viewing experience, cost and battery, feel free to add! I've got no real clue).
• nradov 12y ago
  Does it have a removable battery or is it another sealed device? That's not clear from the web page. Everything else looks great about this device but if it lacks a swappable battery then that's a deal breaker for me and I'll have to get a Samsung Note 4 instead. Even a 3220 mAh battery is insufficient and external battery packs are just too much hassle to deal with.
  • techsupporter 12y ago
    Looks like a sealed case, based on an unboxing video on Boy Genius Report. That's disappointing, though wholly expected. It seems like only Samsung and Nokia make phones with removable batteries and storage card slots...
• anup90 12y ago
  13MP front-facing camera and 2MP rear-facing; seriously? http://imgur.com/2zLzhKr http://imgur.com/2zLzhKr
• q2 12y ago
  Without going into specifics, Apple's event(whatever they reveal) is scheduled for tomorrow and so today is Google's day. Today, some startup/enterprise somewhere in the valley may be making final touches to a press release on some bad/shocking news such as layoffs...etc tomorrow so that little attention will be paid to that, since most tech press may be glued to Apple's event. Life repeats on and on as before.
• bcohen5055 12y ago
  Can anyone confirm what is driving this larger screen war? I know when LTE was rolling out manufacturers needed space for larger batteries but couldn't make the phones thicker due to market backlash so bigger screens began to trend. Now I can't help but think it is completely consumer driven but if that is so what are the larger screens enabling users to do? Is it the resolution? The multitasking? This just doesn't look like a valuable tradeoff for less portability and 1 handed use.
  • izacus 12y ago
    I think the loop goes something like: - few people yell loudly about wanting a big phone - manufacturer makes a big phone which can have better hardware due to easier heating and larger battery - the big phone sells well because it's the only decent phone manufacturer made that quarter - manufacturer builds a bigger phone ;)
    • slantedview 12y ago
      Exactly - I don't know many personally who like the big phones, but you are exactly right that they sell anyways because nowadays there are few other options.
    • nilkn 12y ago
      I know a lot of people whose smartphones have become their primary computing devices. A big phone offers much better battery life, much more usability across countless apps, and it makes watching videos a tremendously better experience. I think it is a real possibility that many folks legitimately like bigger phones. Keep in mind that the Nexus 5 is still around and is still a perfectly viable phone. It will also receive the Android L update. It's not like the Nexus 5 is being killed and replaced with a 6" phone. Rather, a 6" phone is being added to the lineup. There's also the 2014 Moto X, which is effectively a Nexus but with a 5.2" screen.
  • natmaster 12y ago
    Many of us are not 5' tall and want to get things done on our phones.
• benmorris 12y ago
  I bought the Nexus 5 as soon as it was released and have really liked it, however, I'm not sure I'll be buying this one. The biggest issue I have is the screen size. I just think 6" is over my threshold. At $649 I can basically buy any other phone off contract. One of the original appeals of the Nexus 5 was the low price. No wireless charging either? Not a dealbreaker, but I did use it on my 5.
  • TheQwerty 12y ago
    I'm feeling exactly the same, but since they appear to be keeping around the N5 I have my hopes up that next year there will be a new similarly sized Nexus. Also, while Google's specs don't list wireless charging Motorola does: https://www.motorola.com/us/Nexus-6/nexus-6-motorola-us.html#nexus-6-specs https://www.motorola.com/us/Nexus-6/nexus-6-motorola-us.html... Haven't been able to find info on whether the Nexus 9 supports Qi as well - but again I'm disappointed with the increased size over the Nexus 7 there.
    • benmorris 12y ago
      I'd like to see them keep the 7" tablet size also. I bought my wife a 7 and it is a great size to pack away for flights and traveling. Just generally a lot easier to pack around.
  • fumar 12y ago
    http://www.motorola.com/us/Nexus-6/nexus-6-motorola-us.html http://www.motorola.com/us/Nexus-6/nexus-6-motorola-us.html very bottom: Battery 3220 mAh Mixed usage up to 24 hours* Qi Wireless charging support
    • MrQuincle 12y ago
      Good catch. OT: I hope wireless charging is there to stay. Being in robotics this is one technology that would benefit robots tremendously when it becomes more mainstream.
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• chimeracoder 12y ago
  For me, the biggest surprise here is that it will be available on Verizon. I thought that Verizon and Google parted ways permanently for the Nexus line after Verizon botched the Galaxy Nexus so badly in 2011 - this is the first Nexus available on Verizon since then.
• cryptoz 12y ago
  Yes! Google continues to add barometers to phones! Although, it's disappointing that the Nexus 9 does not also include a barometer. I suppose they've decided that the use case for fast GPS and altitude works better in a phone than a tablet - that, or, since the 9 is built by HTC it would be their first time adding one. Oddly, though, Motorola put its first barometer in a tablet (the Xoom) before they tried any phones.
  • coldpie 12y ago
    Just curious, what do you use it for? :)
    • cryptoz 12y ago
      I make a platform that automatically collects the atmospheric pressure sensor reading on a schedule, and sends it to scientists for analysis. The idea is to build the best weather forecast (higher accuracy, hyperlocal) by using this dramatically denser data source as inputs to models. We make an open source app called PressureNet: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ca.cumulonimbus.barometernetwork https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ca.cumulonimbu... We also build an SDK and API so that you can integrate this into your own apps, and also access the live+archive data feed: http://pressurenet.io http://pressurenet.io
      • portmanteaufu 12y ago
        Intriguing! How frequently does the SDK sample the barometer's readings? Does having the phone in one's pocket affect the perceived atmospheric pressure?
        • cryptoz 12y ago
          Our SDK default is 10-minute intervals, but some apps choose 1-hour to better fit normal schedules. The pocket problem isn't a big deal, but altitude changes do add noise to our system. The barometers are very elevation-sensitive (see other poster, commenting about flying!), which means that the reading will be different every time you move your phone. There are a number of ways to solve this noise problem - first, merely detecting trends in the data over 6 hours is quite easy and tells us a lot about the atmosphere (is the pressure rising or falling? easy to find out from the noise). Second, getting enough density means we can use statistics to filter out most of the noisy data.
• pjg 12y ago
  What will the screen resolution default to ? The resolution mentioned i.e. 2560×1440 (493 ppi) is too high for human eye to decipher on 6" frame. MacBook Pro's with retina displays have 2560x1440 resolution available however the highest viewable is 1920x1200 (unless you use 3rd party software like SwitchresX to override the maximum )
  • boyaka 12y ago
    Doesn't it depend on how close the device is to your eyes? Also just because the individual pixels aren't visible doesn't mean there's a noticeable difference in picture or animation quality. Just because Apple claims that "retina displays" use the smallest pixel size noticeable doesn't mean it's true. Edit: Google search on the topic: http://mostly-tech.com/2013/11/08/debunking-the-retina-display-myth/ http://mostly-tech.com/2013/11/08/debunking-the-retina-displ...
• primo37 12y ago
  "Nexus 6 will be available for pre-order through the Google Play Store in late October starting at $649." This is from Motorola http://motorola-blog.blogspot.fr/2014/10/nexus-6-from-google-and-motorola-more.html?linkId=10037353 http://motorola-blog.blogspot.fr/2014/10/nexus-6-from-google...
  • final 12y ago
    Didn't Google sell the Motorala cell phone business to Lenovo?
• untog 12y ago
  I had a Nexus 5, but I bought a Sony Z3 Compact a few weeks ago, and I don't regret doing so. This phone is simply too big. For anyone interested, I would highly recommend the Z3C. It's a fantastic phone and a really great size.
  • rogerbinns 12y ago
    If only Sony would acknowledge the existence of wireless charging (Qi). It has been great having many recent Nexus devices use it.
    • untog 12y ago
      True, but the Sony magnetic chargers are actually pretty great. I got a dock that essentially does exactly what my wireless pad did.
      • rogerbinns 12y ago
        Qi is an open standard. I have several Qi chargers including one in the car. A proprietary charger doesn't help.
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  • sirkneeland 12y ago
    Glad to hear, I'm getting one for sure.
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  • ChrisClark 12y ago
    It was a mistake. They updated the page to list the Nexus 4 now too.
• ck2 12y ago
  I guess all icons are going to have to be SVG to scale on these new devices, otherwise they are going to be impossible to see.
  • fixedd 12y ago
    Yet, Android doesn't support SVG.
    • ck2 12y ago
      How does it support icon sizes - multiple resolutions stored in a single format?
      • din-9 12y ago
        You can provide resources in multiple sizes, and Android will also scale as needed https://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_support.html https://developer.android.com/guide/practices/screens_suppor...
• pshinghal 12y ago
  I don't see how a 6" phone is convenient at all. I can only assume that the reason major brands are making oversized phones is because there hasn't been enough technical innovation in the past year to create an adequately exciting "update" to an existing phone (the Nexus 5, for example). Is this the case, or am I missing something?
  • hayksaakian 12y ago
    I agree this is exaclty it. They can't innovate, so they take the lazy route of packing more of the same old battery tech, display tech, and CPU tech in a container that simply holds more stuff.
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• blisterpeanuts 12y ago
  So it's announced, and the price is a surprising $649, nearly double the price of the Nexus 5 ($349). I suspect the Nexus 5 will continue to fill the "budget development" niche. In fact, now that I've seen the official N6 specs, I'm going to go ahead and order an N5 to replace my Galaxy Nexus because I need a device that does BLE. In a couple of years, perhaps it will be time to upgrade to a refurb N6 or maybe a less expensive N6.5, if they decide to go back to the loss-leader pricing of the older Nexus models. I'm disappointed that the N6 doesn't come with memory expansion. A MicroSD slot might have tipped the scales for me.
• mohap 12y ago
  that is one thick phone.
  • HNaTTY 12y ago
    Likely due to the larger 3200mAh battery, compared to 1800mAh for the iPhone 6.
  • Methusalah 12y ago
    I've been dying for a thicker phone in exchange for better battery life for quite a while now. Seems like this phone might negate a lot of that benefit with the much larger screen, but I wish more phones were willing to make that trade-off.
• hbhakhra 12y ago
  Looks like they took the design that was widely praised with the Moto X and used it for the Nexus 6. The Nexus 6 looks like just a bigger version of the X (obviously better specs).
• follower 12y ago
  I remember being mocked when talking on my Treo 180 due to its size when fully open...I find the increased dimensions of new phones amusing in this light. I'm still looking for a replacement for my Nexus One that matches three criteria: metal case, stock Android, not stupidly large. With the noticeable exception of the tiny amount of app storage the N1 still holds up well for my purposes.
• Touche 12y ago
  Going to wait and see the reviews about the camera. The Nexus 5 had the absolute worst camera I've used in a smartphone. It takes 3 or 4 seconds to focus and gets unfocused super easily. I have so many terrible pictures and am embarrassed giving my phone to someone else to take a picture with.
  • boyaka 12y ago
    Although I can't speak for all Android phones, in my opinion this is absolutely what the manufacturers need to focus on (hurhur) to compete with Apple.
  • lmedinas 12y ago
    It's true that it's hard to focus and it's by far not the best camera in the market but i take really nice pictures with it. I would say it's on pair of my wife S5.
• crucialfelix 12y ago
  Ah, but the Nexus 6 only has a 4 year lifespan. Then .. time to die. I thought that Google decided not to release a phone named Nexus-6 out of deference to Blade Runner and Phillip K Dick's family who were annoyed that they used the name.
  • gohrt 12y ago
    If Google could produce a phone that lasted 4 years, that would be incredible.
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    • crucialfelix 12y ago
      and then it would grab you by the throat, give an incredible speech that makes you realize the true splendor of life and then it would shut itself off.
  • madaxe_again 12y ago
    Yeah, they did say that, but what [google|insert corporation name here] say and what they do are two entirely different things.
• mladenkovacevic 12y ago
  With the increase in price and out-of-the-gate contract subsidies, the Nexus line has now transitioned from a developer-targeted effort to a full-fledged mass-consumer brand. Having said that, this transition demands that they compete with the iPhones and Samsungs. Taking that into account they should've released an additional 4.5" phone, along with the 6". This could steal away the people who hesitated in getting the 4.7" iPhone 6 due to the size, and if someone is into getting a humongous 5.5 inch iPhone 6 Plus, they'd be even more into getting a 6" device with not much larger physical dimensions. The goal should be find the perfect two offers to cover the whole spectrum of buyers.
  • blisterpeanuts 12y ago
    Probably the Nexus 5 will remain in production as the smaller alternative. It's going to run Android L so the user experience should be similar.
• pisarzp 12y ago
  Many people here complain that phone is too big without ever using phablet. I was in this camp too until I started to use N6. I was testing this phone for last couple months. It's an amazing device, and even though sometimes it does feel big, on day to day basis it was never an issue for me. Consuming any type of content was much easier and more pleasurable. I noticed the difference especially when I sometimes moved back to Nexus 5 which I thought was perfect size. Well, it turns out I changed my mind now:) If you can, try to use phablet at least for 1-2 days before discarding it. One thing that might have helped is that I'm also using a smartwatch now and I take out my phone less frequently, but I don't think this change anything much.
  • ryanpardieck 12y ago
    That's exciting to hear. My gut reaction is that this is far too large. However, the idea of always carrying with me something that is nearly as big as my Nexus 7 is enticing. I love reading on my N7, but I never seem to have it on me when I want it. The smartwatch + phablet combo is not something I had thought about. Which watch are you using?
    • pisarzp 12y ago
      I have Samsung Galaxy Gear Live. It's a really convenient to check your notifications on the wrist and not have to take out the big phone ;)
  • blisterpeanuts 12y ago
    I feel the same way; once you go big you don't go back! However the $649 price tag (and possibly higher outside the U.S.) will deter a lot of people who otherwise would have almost automatically upgraded to the next Nexus. I'm such a person. The $349 Nexus 5 is suddenly very attractive, it's big enough and fast enough. I wish Google would provide memory expansion but for $349 I'm willing to live without it. For $649 I'm not willing to live without microSD, however.
• pierrec 12y ago
  Slightly off topic, but is it just me or does this page brutally ignore your browser's language settings? (as well as those of your google account.) Apparently it guesses a language based on your IP address and serves you an inappropriately localized version. Kind of a noob-ish mistake to make for such a campaign. Too bad for you if you're abroad! There's a language drop-down in the "help" section, but it's not stored in the session and it's completely ignored by the other pages. So you simply cannot view the landing page in your own language!
  • final 12y ago
    >> Too bad for you if you're abroad! You should use a VPN anyway :)
• 72deluxe 12y ago
  Does this have a flash? I can't see one, unless I am being dumb?
  • 72deluxe 12y ago
    Not sure why the downvotes, but I can't see a flash at all on the back of that thing.
• eva1984 12y ago
  This one is huge...And seems like Google didn't upgrade their Nexus 5 model?
  • Mikeb85 12y ago
    As a Nexus 5 owner, I can see why. It's by no means obsolete (runs the newest games still, very smooth and fast, great screen), and easily has the nicest 'feel' of any phone I've ever used...
    • eva1984 12y ago
      I still thinks a better camera is necessary. However I agree even without any upgrade, nexus 5 will still be one of the most cost-effective phones out there, only a little bit disappointed.
• julianpye 12y ago
  What keeps me off buying another Playstore device is Google's terrible customer support, especially before they can command such a premium price. I have an unresponsive Nexus 4. I cannot just send it in for warranty repair. In order to return it, I have to go through a list of steps on their website, then get on a phoneline on which they state I have to wait for 45 minute to get a customer rep. Often the line is interrupted. I haven't been able to get my number for two weeks now. Eric Schmidt recently said in Germany that Amazon is their biggest competitor. For that to be true, they need to seriously up their support.
  • andybak 12y ago
    Weird. I returned a Nexus 4 last year and got faultless support. I was gobsmacked.
    • twism 12y ago
      Same here. Google's support phone line has been second to none.
    • richbradshaw 12y ago
      Same, between me and my parents, we've replaced three Nexus 4s, all really easily without issue.
  • Kalium 12y ago
    Really? I had the mic go out on my N5 at one point. Support was perfect. They sent me a new phone, I sent mine in, and everything was beautiful.
    • julianpye 12y ago
      I am sure they will exchange it, but the key problem is the support system which requires me to speak to them in person to initiate the exchange process. The waiting time is never less than 35 minutes. I have a few dev devices and always have to go through this. There is no alternative system in place. And I always have to go through a lengthy process to even get the phone number. On Amazon I can do everything online in a number of ways and get called by their customer rep.
• jusben1369 12y ago
  The pricing is really high. Seems like Google is now no longer interested in forcing great phones out of Samsung/HTC etc. Now that great phones exist they raise the prices and no longer upset the hardware chain.
• computerjunkie 12y ago
  5.96” - A phone just under 6". This is possibly the biggest disappointment about the phone. Its simply too large for the average user. The nexus 5 was already quite difficult to reach the top corners with one hand in my opinion with its 4.95”. you get over 24 hours of use from a full charge. - too many times I have heard this phrase from other smartphone manufacturers and its never true. Since this phone is made by Motorola(which I think is a great company that builds good products)there is hope but that screen is going to be a battery drainer. Motorola had their [0] Motorola Droid Maxx which held a 3,500mAh battery and its at least kind of true for that statement above. If they had put the 3220 mAh battery (or larger) in a 4.7" - 4.9" phone, I would gladly pay for that. Why can't smartphone manufacturers understand that a longer battery life is whats lacking in mobile devices? All the goodie features like Google Now and other location hungry services completely drain your battery in a short time. All I want is a smartphone that can last for at least one day on one charge. Lastly the price. The nexus line is known for the competitive price/performance being greatly competitive. If this phone asks for more than £350, does it really have the nexus characteristics anymore? I hope there will be android phones still produced with 5" or less screen size in the next 4 years. A significant portion of the population don't have unimaginably big hands (or pockets) to carry these so called "mobile" phones. 0. http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/16/motorola-droid-maxx-review/ http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/16/motorola-droid-maxx-revie...
  • Kalium 12y ago
    > If they had put the 3220 mAh battery (or larger) in a 4.7" - 4.9" phone, I would gladly pay for that. Why can't smartphone manufacturers understand that a longer battery life is whats lacking in mobile devices? Because consumers reliably shell out more for larger screens and thinner phones than they do for bigger batteries?
    • CedarMadness 12y ago
      Have a look at the Xperia Z3 Compact. Sony seem to be the only ones that care about battery life at this point.
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• jasonkester 12y ago
  Anybody found a way to force it to display in English? I'm in France at the moment so I can't even read the text on the site. None of the usual tricks (?hl=en, etc.) work. No links on the site to change language or redirect. Seems silly to have to VPN into a box in the US just to read a website.
  • final 12y ago
    How about /ncr ?
  • baby 12y ago
    same problem here.
• chetanahuja 12y ago
  Well I'm not letting one anywhere near me until someone runs the Voight-Kampff test on them.
• JimmaDaRustla 12y ago
  Many people don't realize that the Nexus 6 is not the next iteration in the Nexus line. It is Google's entry into the phablet market. To me, the follow-up to the Nexus 5 is the Moto X. Decent specs, moderate price, stock Android, etc.
• zkar 12y ago
  Nano Sim. Do they really need the space saving from micro to nano? Prepaid carriers charge extra for nano sim. Not sure if it is because it is more expensive to manufacture. Requires more delicate handling for those who swap sims which is more common in Asia.
• imacomputer2 12y ago
  I'm casting my vote for "Screen Size Too Big!" I can't imagine using a device larger than the Nexus 5. I'll test out similar size phones in stores, but it looks like the size is a deal breaker.
• baby 12y ago
  Anyone knows how I can display this page in english? For some reason it displays in french.
• dschulz 12y ago
  Using the N5 I already have a problem distinguishing the top from the bottom at a glance. I'm sure with the new design this will be much more than a minor nuisance.
  • Zigurd 12y ago
    I've found I flip my phone around less with the N5 compared to other phones. The little white earpiece thing gives both a tactile and visual cue.
• notastartup 12y ago
  i can't fit this phone into my pocket. i guess im gonna wait till nexus 4 or 5 drops in prices and buy that instead.
• icelancer 12y ago
  The Nexus 6 not having a high-speed camera sensor is really disappointing. I was hoping Apple and Google would eventually break down the high-speed / slow-motion camera market, because industrial applications cost well into the multiple thousands of dollars for cameras not much better than the iPhone 6 with the only exception being that it is PC-controlled via software. Frustrating.
  • jdhendrickson 12y ago
    So if I understand you correctly, the nexus 6 will NOT be able to take slow motion video?
    • icelancer 12y ago
      It is not in the detailed specs that I can find. http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_nexus_6-6604.php http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_nexus_6-6604.php "Video: 2160p@30fps, optical stabilization" No other frame rates or resolutions listed.
• davidw 12y ago
  1440x2560 leaves my laptop in the dust. That's insane... I want that kind of resolution for my laptop too! Seems kind of big for a phone though. This Nexus 4 that I have is about as large a phone as I'd want.
• balaclava9 12y ago
  Deckard, I need your magic, I need my old Blade Runner.
  • balaclava9 12y ago
    What model are they?
    • balaclava9 12y ago
      Nexus 6
• chdir 12y ago
  Dear Google, Please announce a 'Nexus 6 Mini' someday in the near future. Just trim the screen size to a sub 5" level and price to sub $400. Rest all features are welcome. The reduction in battery size proportionately is acceptable. - Sincerely, A long time Nexus user !
• acadien 12y ago
  Does this mean they won't be releasing a new 5" nexus this year?
• BigBlackCamry 12y ago
  for $650, i'll pass...unless nexus 6 can answer my emails for me.
• BigBlackCamry 12y ago
  $650!!!! for that price, i'll get me two nexus 5.. this way I can talk to myself, never get lonely....
• nly 12y ago
  This thing has a screen resolution higher than my laptop, and 4x the RAM...
  • pedrocr 12y ago
    You're probably misreading the flash space (32 or 64GG) as RAM. Either that or you only have 750MB of RAM.
    • nly 12y ago
      You're right. They list storage as "memory". How much RAM does this thing actually have?
• sabmd 12y ago
  Whatever version it is. NEWS is best. NORTH OR EAST WORLD IS BEST!!!
• laacz 12y ago
  As I see it, there are tree reasons for ridiculous six inches. 1) To fit a larger battery, better screen, more horsepower, better camera with OIS they just have to make them bigger. 2) Nexus line has gone out of control and people instead of buying other phones are queuing up for nexuses which initially were meant to be just reference devices for new android oses. Instead they became so popular that had an impact on sales of other Android devices. 3) They got focus groups or questions all wrong.
• rahilsondhi 12y ago
  For those looking who were looking for a new Android and disappointed by this release, have you considered the Galaxy Alpha? http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_alpha-6573.php http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_alpha-6573.php
• Datsundere 12y ago
  Looks like buying the one plus one was the smarter choice.
• AsakiIssa 12y ago
  Although a bit too big for my liking (still using a Galaxy S2) I wonder if that LCD will be in the next Oculus Rift iteration, having 1280x1440px per eye!
• ChuckMcM 12y ago
  Fascinating arguments about size. It isn't the only phone on the market, so the size question is resolved by market acceptance. Granted there are confounding factors, Lollipop vs Android 4.x, cost, availability. But in general larger screens seem to sell well (compare the iPhone 6+ backlog to the iPhone 6 for example [1]). I get that this might not be a "good" thing for some people, but it is pointless to argue that Apple or Google should take less money by selling phones the market doesn't want (a strategy which is being employed by RIM at the moment) [1] http://9to5mac.com/2014/09/12/iphone-6-and-6-plus-already-selling-out-5-5-inch-model-particularly-constrained/ http://9to5mac.com/2014/09/12/iphone-6-and-6-plus-already-se...
  • mikelward 12y ago
    That link only establishes that the 6+ is sold out, not that more of them were sold. It seems equally likely that fewer 6+s were produced.
    • ChuckMcM 12y ago
      The point was that the 6+ sales exceeded the forecast by a significant margin. This same size debate goes on inside Apple, and Steve Jobs even highlighted the intense scruitiny they put on size when designing the iPhone, and the "Giant" (in Apple's words) Samsung Galaxy and Note phones were outselling them. And Apple released the 5s / 5c which tested some aspects of the equation, and they release the 6 / 6+ which tested the size question. Given those two market tests one might presume that Apple learned 'plastic was not a good material for an expensive phone' (under performed the forecast) and 'larger phones have significant appeal' (over performed the forecast). And as I stated outside Apple's testing this hypothesis there are a bunch of different Android phones in different sizes and they too inform on market acceptance or rejection of various design choices. The age old model of 'buy what you like, they will make more of them' is more true today than it ever has been, manufacturers are so intensely watching and tracking the buying habits of their customers that feedback is immediately implemented in products in the next round (you'll notice neither the 6 or 6+ are 'colorful' :-)
• piyush_soni 12y ago
  I still have heard no word on whether this will support a Moto X like 'always on listening'. Anyone can comment on that?
• piyush_soni 12y ago
  Completely off-topic, but I can't help but notice how posting a new-device link gives you a lot more Karma in one day than I earned in a few years. :)
• shirro 12y ago
  I am incredulous when people say phones are too big for normal users. I once wandered out of an Apple store after laughing at the postage stamp sized displays to see large groups of asian girls with small hands pull massive bejewelled Galaxy Notes out of their bags and comfortably use them. The people who supposedly can't use small phones due to dainty hands can in fact use them very well and have the ideal fashion accessories to lug them around. Which kind of cast doubts on some of the arguments I hear as do the sales figures. My only conclusion is that a large number of people owning Apple stock only use one hand to operate their phone while I can only assume they are masturbating with the other.
• rafaqueque 12y ago
  Being a long time Android user with fairly large screens (+5"), I'm now using an iPhone 5C for three days and I really love its size. I guess that even the iPhone 6 is way too much for me. Around 4", it's the ideal size for me.
• kgarten 12y ago
  great ... I'm in Japan (signed into Google/Gmail in English) and the whole page is in Japanese without any obvious way. Great Job Google ...! (sorry for the rant, my Japanese is not so bad now, still it annoys me ...happens very often with google pages)
  • poglet 12y ago
    Did you find a solution? I also have the same problem.
    • kgarten 12y ago
      no except using VPN or Tor :S ... great!
• hit8run 12y ago
  Anyone remember the HP Veer? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_Veer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_Veer This phone was advertised for beeing as small as a credit card. Now Nexus 6 is as tall as a whole opened wallet.
• wodenokoto 12y ago
  I'm visiting Japan, but I don't read Japanese. When I visit this site everything is in Japanese without any button to change local. Apple and Ikea will redirect you to a url with country code in it (ikea.com/ja/en/bedroom kind of style) making it easy for people on the tech savvy side to manually change locale. But Google? No way in hell am I allowed to read this in English if I'm not physically in an English speaking country.
  • kgarten 12y ago
    yes ... it's frustrating. I actually can read Japanese a bit, still even if you are LOGGED in to Google with preference English, they show you the Japanese page. Well done! VPN or TOR to the rescue ...
• gesman 12y ago
  "Available for pre-order starting late october ..." Sort of like "you can watch this movie as soon as you'll grow up ..."
• vijayboyapati 12y ago
  I've owned an EVO, a Note 2 and a Nexus 5. The form factors being small, large and medium-to-large, respectively. I went from small to large, and while I thought the Note 2 had fantastic specs, it was too unwieldy for me and I decided to downsize to the Nexus 5. I still find the Nexus 5 a bit unwieldy with one handed use, but it's at least possible. Which brings me to my current conclusion: I want a smaller phone which doesn't give up too much in the screen resolution. Which brings me to my question: What makes ideal specs for you? Here's what I want, but cannot seem to find (something is always missing): * Size: 4.9" screen * Resolution: 1080p (it's really hard to find any phones this size with this resolution, which is disappointing because the PPI is possible, especially given the quad HD resolutions being slapped on phones now). * SD expansion slot: One thing I really liked about the Note 2 that the Nexus phones don't have. I could upgrade with a 64G SD card which didn't cost much. 32G can fill up pretty quickly with videos and photos and it's annoying Google has a philosophy which shuns SD cards. * Battery: At least 2600mAmp (should last at least one day). * Stock android: No bloatware and no touch-wiz. This isn't as important as the other considerations though. * CPU: This doesn't matter too much to me. 99% of what I do doesn't need a latest generation processor * Memory: 2G is fine. Memory again isn't the main thing that's bothering me about the current android offerings. What really bothers me is no-one is catering to this market segment and the trend is increasingly into the phablet market.
  • FlyingLawnmower 12y ago
    it's not perfect, but something in between the Sony Xperia Z3 and Z3 compact sounds like what you're looking for. Xperia Z3 has 1080P screen, 3Gb ram, 5.2" screen. Xperia Z3 Compact has 720P screen, 2GB ram, 4.6" screen. Both have microSD expansion, both have very solid processors and battery life, and sony's android is a very lightweight add-on to stock android. Maybe a slight compromise in either direction will get you close to what you need?
    • vijayboyapati 12y ago
      Yeah definitely, and thanks for the great recommendation. The Z3 is getting close, but still slightly too big. The Compact is the right size, or even a touch small, but it sacrifices the resolution. It's very cool that it's water proof though. My Note 2 died in a hot tub!
• diltonm 12y ago
  It seems like we just got the Nexus 5, the Nexus One is still fun to pull out and mess with. The One was the perfect size. I'm not even sure the 6 would fit in my pants pocket? Seems like it would jab into my groin when driving. Storage isn't even listed or Chrome's Ctrl+F can't find it? Does it have external storage or expandable storage? The 5 messed this up.
• jerkywez 12y ago
  I reckon they should have just gone with HTC for both tablet and phone.. it would have resulted in a much better outcome on the latter.
• cooperpellaton 12y ago
  I find this an interesting departure by the trend which has been set by the previous phones in the Nexus program. Prior phones followed an average lower price that what is most likely to be seen here. Given that the Nexus program has stood as the pinnacle of the Android environment more so than just simply being "reference" hardware it does seem logical to me that Google would want to escalate the quality and produce a true flagship. That being said, this is also atypical and as much as it plays into the trend of higher quality for the entire ecosystem, it also undermines their tenant of simply finding hardware which promotes the qualities that the OS does. In the end it is most likely I will still buy the phone, but still, on morals, I dislike the anticipated pricing.
• nstart 12y ago
  Like many others here, I agree on the screen size issue. I'm actually at a bit of a loss as to what phone to use next. I want something that's future proof for several versions of Android, runs smoothly, runs vanilla android by default, and doesn't exceed the screen size of the galaxy nexus (the one that's currently stuck without a stable upgrade to kit kat due to firmware issues), and has a great resolution. I'd gladly pay good money for a device like that.
• darklajid 12y ago
  As ~always~ with Google sites my Accept-Language header [1] is ignored and I end up being redirected to a different, 'more suitable' site. But yeah, those people can talk about SPDY and HTTP/2 and new standards all day long I guess. I'm sure that makes sense.. 1: en-US,en;q=0.5
• sytelus 12y ago
  After long back and forth I ended up buying iPhone 6 over Nexus 5. So the news of Nexus 6 was exciting but it still seems bit behind on hardware front: * No 128GB memory option. This is absolutely important for me and it seems Apple is the only one of few company who gets this. I started running out of 64 GB long time ago. * No TouchID equivalent which is excellent and works flowlessly on iPhones. * No slow-mo videos at 200+ frames per second. * From hardware perspective N6 still stuck in 32-bit world. Plus it lacks motion processor that monitors my movements and fitness data all the time without draining batteries. * 8MP camera is actually better than 12MP and gives better low light performance. Higher MP is actually deal breaking for me (if sensor size remains same). * At 10mm thickness, that's actually going backwards from 7mm for iPhone 6. Every mm of thickness adds perception of "hugeness" dramatically.
  • BinaryIdiot 12y ago
    > * At 10mm thickness, that's actually going backwards from 7mm for iPhone 6. Every mm of thickness adds perception of "hugeness" dramatically. This is the only one I disagree with you one. If I can get more battery life I would GLADLY give up several mm. Battery life is practically the most important thing for my phone and the race to be thinnest is counter to what I desire. It wouldn't kill me if the iPhone 6 was 10mm if that extra 3mm was filled with battery goodness.
  • mappu 12y ago
    I agree with many of your points, but > started running out of 64 GB long time ago. I started running out of 140 characters a long time ago, twitter isn't the place for a novel. >Plus it lacks motion processor that monitors my movements You're selling this as positive for the iPhone?
    • r00fus 12y ago
      You're seriously questioning why someone would want more storage on their mobile device? Clearly 640kb is enough for anyone.
    • kosmopolska 12y ago
      > I started running out of 140 characters a long time ago, twitter isn't the place for a novel. How is that relevant?
• scope 12y ago
  off topic (i think) for a "phone" that has 493ppi, you expect the site introducing the phone to be retina ready (couple of images and the favicon)
• laacz 12y ago
  "4 inches in a smartphone? That's too large!" /Everyone, 2008/
• laacz 12y ago
  "4 inches in a smartphone? That's too large!" /Everyone, 2008/
• Noughmad 12y ago
  There is a missed opportunity in the tagline. Instead of "More space to explore" it should have said "More space for Activities". Because, you know, the Activity class.
• 0x006A 12y ago
  localized version without an option to change the language? really are they smoking crack?
• pawelkomarnicki 12y ago
  The price killed it for me :-(
• jeffcaijf 12y ago
  comparing with N5, obviously it's too expensive.
• tgmarks 12y ago
  The screen is a deal breaker for me too. I was super excited for this phone. It's a Moto X with all the stat bumps I really wanted. Sure the camera and battery are the weak points but both better than what I have in my 1st gen Moto X. But I don't want a phablet, so i'm out of luck.
• AlyssaRowan 12y ago
  Well, I want to see it, and hold it, but I fear the size is probably too big for my small hands, and I know the price is too big. The battery being big is nice, but with a screen that size I don't believe the battery life claims until I see independent reviews. Given that the battery isn't removable too, this makes for a very shitty development phone. (What do we do if it freezes? How do we hard-remove power?) I think this won't do. I'm also rather disappointed this isn't the Snapdragon 810 or 808. For a phone this expensive, it doesn't measure up. Overall this is not what I hoped for from a new Nexus. Perhaps Android Silver will deliver something better, but I doubt the Nexus 6 will be my next phone.
  • kayone 12y ago
    > Given that the battery isn't removable too, this makes for a very shitty development phone. When was the last time you pulled a battery on an iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch. I think calling a phone 'shitty for development' just because you can't pull a battery is a bit over the top given the current landscape.
• evv 12y ago
  Is RAM not a worthy technical specification to list? I think its pretty critical. Until somebody corrects me I'll just assume this thing has the 1GB of RAM which is pretty standard these days.. But not enough IMHO
  • btian 12y ago
    It has 3GB of RAM. http://www.motorola.com/us/Nexus-6/nexus-6-motorola-us.html#nexus-6-specs http://www.motorola.com/us/Nexus-6/nexus-6-motorola-us.html#...
  • bdcs 12y ago
    RAM really doesn't matter for most people, IME, at least after Project Svelte. For example, here's a video [0] of the Moto E (not G, but lower-class, 125$ E) outpacing a Samsung S5 at simple tasks like opening Facebook, etc. With 1GB of RAM, I've noticed the Moto G can multi-task between low-RAM apps (Chrome, SMS, Drive, Dropbox, Twitter, GMail, etc) just as well as a Note III (3GB RAM). The only time I've noticed a difference is context switching with a high-RAM app, like sending messages while gaming. This is actually an excruciating experience on a 1GB phone, because the game needs to reload every time one switches back to it. >>Is RAM not a worthy technical specification to list? I'd say yes, but it is a grossly overvalued spec. With modern RAM compression and multitasking, I suspect very few people will notice the difference between 1GB and 3. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P9vDAY0U0A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P9vDAY0U0A
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• timetraveller 12y ago
  What is this obsession with having to use the phone with one hand? I have big hands and even with iPhone4/Nexus One I found myself using two hands to get things done more quickly.
• bonzaipez 12y ago
  Wasn't Nexus 6 the last model of replicants in Blade Runner? Just sayin'...
• mjcohen 12y ago
  My main gripe is lack of memory. Since it has no sd card, it should have at least 128GB like the iPhone 6.