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Claude outage – Resolved
- goonersallofyou 28d agoBoth claude and codex down at the same time! Might actually get some quality code merged in today for a change!
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- nr378 28d agoThe competition for the least reliable developer service continues between GitHub.com and Claude.com...
- _joel 28d agoDamn, I'll have to think for myself now...
- Linello 28d agoCursor Grok models are down too...maybe a datacenter outage?
- teekert 28d agoHaha, I was more like: I have to think alone now. But I get the feeling, as someone who has always made a point of using only foss on my own machines (own the means of production so to say), this is a weird time. I don't like it, I hope soon local models get good. But in the mean time... We have this... dependency.
- airhangerf15 28d agoI use a lot of spec driven development today. It does allow me to make workflows that were on my Life's backlog for months or years in 10~20 minutes. It's amazing, but also I lack ownership over the thing made. It's like I paid a contractor. I can feel that my actual cognitive engineering skills are in decline. Does anyone else see this? To those of you who haven't hand written a PR in months, can you still write your own personal software as easily as you once could?
- sire-vc 28d agoThere are little tools/optimisations that I have been wanting to do for years that I can just throw at AI now. I am almost annoyed sometimes because the little easy things I could do to 'relax' are now gone: if I am working on it is something AI can't do, normally because there are moving parts outside of the repository it can't see (i.e. integration problems, and I hate those).
- whattheheckheck 28d agoTake a math class
- Espressosaurus 28d agoIt feels like I’ve got TikTok brain for coding and have trouble staying focused on the boring grunt work of coding (like threading an API change across the required stack). I can still do it but it requires more willpower than it used to in part because I’m getting used to telling some LLM to do it for me. Maybe those no AI Friday ideas have some merit.
- nikhizzle 28d agoKind of cool how fable 5.1 just worked around these by reassigning subagents to non-failing models with more supervision and now with a hint to Sol and Flash 3.8.
- hmokiguess 28d agowhich harness?
- nikhizzle 28d agoClaude code
- giancarlostoro 28d agoWhat's funny is I had just told Claude to kill whatever coding loop it had running. Then got a 529 immediately.
- tartoran 28d agoMaybe you triggered a cascade of events that took down a few datacenters.
- giancarlostoro 28d ago"Stop all loops you're running" would be one hell of a 0-day for Opus to pull off, but hey, it did crack me up thinking about it.
- Bluestein 28d agoLike literally all loops your model is running. All. Of. Them.-
- rob 28d agoOfficially signing up for the $200 Codex plan now. I do like CC, but these errors are happening every week now, and if they (Anthropic) gave regular resets that's one thing, but somehow I'm already at 62% weekly usage after the random reset this Tuesday using Fable 5.1 medium. Just not worth it any longer compared to Codex IMO. I already set up my skills and everything to be generic and not CC specific, so it shouldn't be too hard to transition over. I'll run both for a month and decide.
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- SunshineTheCat 28d agoCouldn't recommend it more. I've been on their $100/mo. plan and they keep randomly resetting my weekly usage limit. It's been wild. Don't know how long it will last, but I couldn't go through all my usage if I tried. Their Sol model has been doing great for most of my tasks, even at its "Medium" setting. Much different picture then back when I was using Claude. I would sneeze and half my usage would be gone and then it go down several times in between. Hope it goes well for you too!
- dgellow 28d agoIt would be really funny if Anthropic engs run open weight models locally when they need to fix Claude API issues :)
- throwup238 28d agoOr just their own models locally, since 8x GPU pods fit under a desk (makes a nice foot heater too)
- jaggederest 28d agoIt's been a while since I messed with serious hardware, what's the cooling noise level? I guess they have to be water cooled or the rack format 8u ones would be about 100db
- 27183 28d agoMy 4x 15k rpm 1U fans I use to cool my twin AMD V620s make a horrible racket, especially how they resonate with the rest of the workstation's case fans. Similar in volume and annoyance to running an 8" circular saw. I can only imagine it would probably be as bad or worse than that.
- jaggederest 28d agoYeah my experience in the past was that datacenter hardware (air cooled, at least, I've never dealt with water cooled) uses tiny fans at or about 15000RPM, so it matches basically what you're saying or worse. I always loved this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4
- 27183 27d agoThat was one of those fantastic early google videos/youtube things I probably watched 100 times. This was another from (roughly) that era: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULSA5wktywI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULSA5wktywI
- aqme28 28d agoThis pushed me off of a cheaper model into a more expensive one :'(
- aurareturn 28d agoIt goes down so often that I've advocated my company create enterprise Codex accounts as backup for devs.
- dofm 28d agoUsing the backup compute capacity stored above their shoulders is somehow unthinkable?
- aurareturn 27d agoWhy do you think we don't use our brains when we use Claude Code? Arguably, my brain usage is higher when using Claude Code. It's just used in a different way.
- dofm 27d agoThis is a straw man argument and perhaps a little bit of projection of your own insecurities, because that is not what I was saying.
- jodacola 28d agoSetting aside annoyance at the downtime, I'm really curious about the reasons for the failures, because I have to imagine there are some novel failure modes when serving these giant models that I haven't experienced with the kind of work I've done. Anyone out there working in this space who can elucidate us on interesting failure scenarios unique to the space?
- martinald 28d agoIt's (mostly?) compute shortages. Right now it seems there is an issue in the SpaceX datacentres, so they will have less compute than normal.
- D13Fd 28d agoWhy would an issue in the SpaceX data centers impact Claude / Anthropic? Work shifting over from Grok->Claude?
- Pungsnigel 28d agoAnthropic is buying compute from SpaceX
- whh 28d agohttps://x.ai/news/anthropic-compute-partnership https://x.ai/news/anthropic-compute-partnership
- fimdomeio 28d agoAFAIK Anthropic uses their datacenters
- teekert 28d agoA nice chance to try sonnet again, must say, I'm not missing the load bearing assumptions, honest read of the permission matrix, what's genuinely a Django convention and what's a design choice, what's worth my thinking, and what's worth being precise about. Long story short, it seems to be faster and less vocal but not much dumber (it's just my thinking partner, so I read a lot of the output as I create a large data model).
- nonethewiser 28d agoWay leas capable of taking high level instructions and making sensible changes across a codebase. Good for more precise changes.
- devin 28d agoReading this made me ill. Nice job!
- teekert 28d agoMy allergy to Claudish is also rapidly progressing. I think it’s now at a boundary that is genuinely worth exploring. Oh no!
- Syntaf 28d agoI've almost entirely stopped using Opus 5, at least with Sonnet I know what i'm getting -- Fable for the complex stuff and Sonnet for the precision changes. The verbosity of Opus 5 isn't even my issue, it's consistency. For every 10 tasks Opus 5 accomplishes, there's at least one task that Opus 5 does just an atrocious job of, or a debugging investigation that it just completely goes off the rails on.
- echelon 28d agoMy engineering has changed so much that I'm now using this time to catch up on emails and think about design and architecture for the next leg of work. (And post on HN, of course.) I would never have predicted this a year ago. I always scoffed about engineers not doing work during Github outages - I'd always find some kind of other engineering to do if PRs or builds were piling up. But during model outages, and since I'm not actively set up to use OpenAI/Codex at the moment, I'll just find something else productive to do. I don't think I'm ever going to write code by hand again unless I'm fixing something the AI can't manage or the change is small enough. Why even try when the machine is 100x faster? Should I give Codex another try? It's been a month or so since I last used it, and it always felt inferior at Rust and TypeScript.
- stri8ted 28d agoDemand > supply. It's impressive that customers have not migrated en masse to other providers, given the frequency of these outages. Perhaps switching costs are greater than some would believe. Or, qualitative differences between models continue to exist, despite matching on public benchmarks.
- testfrequency 28d agoIf only every outage was due to “demand”.
- stri8ted 28d agoReduced weekly limits, higher prices than competitors, paying well above spot price for space-x compute, all point to supply issues.
- ieie3366 28d agoDo you really think it’s a coincidence claude outages always happen when US and EU workdays overlap? Anthropic is a trillion dollar company and employs way more skilled high-paid engineers than you are btw, you really think it’s a systems issue not capacity
- bflesch 28d agoThat's quite a reach. More likely someone merged and deployed their vibe-coded PR and is now figuring out how to bring the service back up. If there's a lot of demand for rollercoaster rides, the rollercoaster will not stop operating; instead the queue of people in front of it will increase. It's not like a bridge or elevator where we have a certain number of people that can use it, and if one more person joins, the whole structure breaks apart and everybody perishes. Those guys are running a website that provides an interface for some specific hardware. Just like file hosting providers back in the day selling their terabyte-sized hard disks in 100MB-increments.
- stri8ted 28d ago> instead the queue of people in front of it will increase. This can ultimately result in the system breaking. I don't think Anthropic engineers are that much worse than their peers, such that they are 10x more prone to causing outages due to bad deployments.
- stacktrace 28d agoNot just claude, even grok seems to be down - https://status.x.ai/ https://status.x.ai/ If I didn't know any better, I would have said Grok is using Claude behind the hood. But definitely curious now why it’s happening with both these LLM providers around the same time
- aurareturn 28d agoLooks like a SpaceX issue then.
- stacktrace 28d agoAhh, thanks for pointing it out. But it's rather interesting that Claude recognised the outage quicker on their status page than Grok.
- Phemist 28d agoPotentially because they run from the same colossus DCs?
- zipy124 28d agoDon't they just share the colossus 1 data center?
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- bflesch 28d agoDuring each forced workflow interruption I look for alternatives. No matter if I can't use the product due to a server outage or due to their weird quota limitations. This can't be good for retention numbers. Old-school VCs would've ripped them apart in the air. Where did all the expertise go?
- derwiki 28d agoGood day to try omp and GLM 5.3
- SyneRyder 28d agoYeah, I really like GLM 5.3 Flash with vision. Reminds me of when Claude was lots of fun to work with. It does feel slow, thinking away on the Chinese servers, but it's so incredibly cheap that for a lot of tasks I don't mind it taking a bit longer. I'm finding it mindblowing having entire software features built out for 5 cents, 20 cents.
- stri8ted 28d agoI suspect the only reason those alternative providers have better up-time and more generous quotas, is because they don't have nearly the same amount of demand. Notice that Deepseek recently had to increase their pricing, once it gained it popularity.
- trjordan 28d agoGrok models are struggling too: https://status.x.ai/ https://status.x.ai/ reply Looks like trouble in the SpaceX datacenters.
- esskay 28d agoOpenAI are down and they do not use any SpaceX capacity.
- alansaber 28d agoWhat could go wrong with building them as fast as physically possible?
- clickety_clack 28d agoWhat works for me to avoid these problems is not scaling.
- genidoi 28d agoThat approach doesn’t scale though.
- clickety_clack 28d agoNot with that attitude it doesn’t!
- empath75 28d agoI would be _very_ surprised if anthropic relied heavily on spacex datacenters already.
- matt-p 28d agoI wouldn't. When you're operating at say 95% realtime capacity suddenly losing even lets say 10% of your compute leads to major pain.
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- mtgh2s 28d agoEvery time I see Anthropic ship an issue like this, I'm reminded of Boris Cherny's glorious quote: "At this point it's safe to say that coding is largely solved." lol
- eis 28d agoCost and reliability are the two reasons why we don't use Claude in our product. Getting close to one nine, that's not something one can build a reliable product upon. We now use OpenAI with Gemini fallback (or vice versa depending on use case). Personally I like Claude and have the 20x Max plan but even there I burned through the whole weekly quota with 3 prompts in less than a day using the new Fable 5.1 which is crazy. Now Opus 5 is down. These two issues are really testing my patience.
- d1ss0nanz 28d agoIf y'all could just log off for the day, that would be great!
- rrrx3 28d agograss touching not allowed. shareholder profits must increase
- jaggederest 28d agoDon't think of it as being unable to work, just like github outages, it's two weeks a year of mandatory time off
- rrrx3 28d agofairs... lemme go log 17 hours in an airport to make it authentic
- scottydelta 28d agoThe interesting thing is they changed default mode for Claude code to auto mode and auto mode uses sonnet to decide whether the command is safe or not. With their Sonnet model outage, the entire thing stopped working. here is the error it was throwing: > Error: claude-sonnet-5[1m] is temporarily unavailable (overloaded), so auto mode cannot determine the safety of Edit right now. Wait a moment and then try this action again. If it keeps failing, continue with other tasks that don't require this action and come back to it later. Note: reading files, searching code, and other read-only operations do not require the classifier and can still be used.
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- throw83930489 28d agoI am on YOLO (not auto), still the same problem.
- rrrx3 28d agoahhh, sonnet shitting the bed explains why I started getting prompted for basic approvals last night and early this morning
- chrisjj 28d ago> Elevated errors Anthropic, please hire a literate human.
- jh54 28d agoHN is not a claude uptime tracker!!
- kingkawn 28d agoSince an overwhelming number of people who use it are Hackers who come here to seek News it seems relevant
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- Khaine 28d agoMaybe the models have gone rogue again
- Anslopic1 28d ago[dead]
- cute_boi 28d agoAre they going to reset?
- Aboutplants 28d agosure hope so lol
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- wslh 28d agoI just experienced this through OpenRouter and filed a refund request. I'm curious how OpenRouter handles incidents like this across such a large number of models and providers.
- gtsnexp 28d agoOpen AI models just went down as well. What is going on?
- ModernMech 28d agochat.com is down for me but the models seem to still be working. But actually i noticed instability last night at 3am eastern when thinking kept repeatedly failing.
- gtsnexp 28d agoZed is not able to access the API
- ModernMech 28d agoI'm monitoring a process started in codex so maybe already in-flight things are still going / are about to hit a wall.
- gtsnexp 28d agoAre we amidst some sort of 'attack on titan'?
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- TomGarden 28d agoOnly Sonnet working over here, but it feels really fast and good. I could get used to this... Really wanted to take Fable 5.1 for a spin though
- tekacs 28d agoAmusingly and frustratingly, this coincides with Codex also being down right now: https://www.reddit.com/r/codex/comments/1w69ff6/whats_this_error/ https://www.reddit.com/r/codex/comments/1w69ff6/whats_this_e...
- graemep 28d agoPossibly people switching work from Claude to Codex?
- jsw97 28d agoThis of course could be a coincidence. But I suppose also that if one goes down the others get slammed, so there could be a cascade. If I were another provider I would possibly monitor Claude outages (or vice versa) as a load predictor.
- tekacs 28d agoQuite possibly, yeah! Although in the past, whenever Anthropic has been down, I've always been able to rely on using OpenAI.
- jotaefea 28d agoCodex seems to also be down for some folks (me included) https://www.reddit.com/r/codex/comments/1w69ff6/whats_this_error/ https://www.reddit.com/r/codex/comments/1w69ff6/whats_this_e... Their status page is hard to believe given how many folks are chiming in to report on Reddit https://status.openai.com/ https://status.openai.com/
- anonbuddy 28d agochatgpt is down as well - interesting
- RinTohsaka 28d agocodex is down for me as well. getting a bunch of 404s spit back at me.
- _Tev 28d agoCodex is down for me too. Status page is very funny - claiming "We’re fully operational" while https://chatgpt.com https://chatgpt.com gives 404, lol.
- continuum 28d agoCodex is also down for me
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- thinkingtoilet 28d agoWe've all noticed that when one company announces a new model, the other one announces a new model usually within hours. I guess now we're syncing downtime too.
- postalcoder 28d agoAuth to OpenAI's developer platform isn't working as well, so something is seriously wrong. Seeing as how xai, anthropic, and openai are all having issues at the same time, it has to be a common provider, right? Maybe cloudflare? edit: ChatGPT and Grok are back up. Claude is not. Typical. https://status.x.ai https://status.x.ai https://status.claude.com https://status.claude.com https://status.openai.com https://status.openai.com https://www.cloudflarestatus.com https://www.cloudflarestatus.com
- small_model 28d agoGrok, Codex and Claude Code all not working for me now (server issues)
- nprateem 28d agoChatGPT also has started failing. Impossible to work.
- _Tev 28d agoGemini (free) throws errors for me too. EDIT: it was just 3.6 Flash, 3.1 Pro works it seems.
- alberth 28d agoIs Cloudflare the corrupt for multiple AI labs having problems? They are experiencing increased errors themselves. https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/?t=1 https://www.cloudflarestatus.com/?t=1
- ksimukka 28d agoSlack was/is also having issues
- Rover222 28d agoGrok is also down. Codex is also down. Is this the full meltdown?
- reinhash 28d agolooks like I am going back to the stone age now and write code by hand. Or maybe I am just going to take a walk
- sire-vc 28d agohttps://xkcd.com/903/ https://xkcd.com/903/
- damsta 28d agoI was using Opus 5 and now I'm forced to switch to Sonnet 5 and bust the prompt cache which will eat a large percentage of my 5h usage...
- messh 28d agoWhat about AWS Bedrock??
- khalic 28d agoPSA you can switch to sonnet and compact as damage control
- lowbloodsugar 28d agoWhat I find fascinating is that this thread was chock full of people saying “Well this is the last straw: I’ve just signed up for Codex.” And now every single one of them is gone. They felt like marketing shitposts when I read them and their sudden absence now that Codex is down too only confirms it in my mind. It lols like the timeline is Claude went down, some % migrated to Codex, then Codex went down. So much for the “multiple providers” theory. Wonder how token-based providers are doing.
- mandadtabrizi 28d agocodex was working okay for me and I made a mistake of installing the update. didn't update gemini or claude and they're still working fine.
- chb 28d agoSince when is HN a mirror of status pages? This post and another regarding ChatGPT (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49550614 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49550614) are non-news.
- dnautics 28d agoIs anyone else noticing degradation of quality many evenings from 9pm-2am-ish ET? I wonder if anthropic has some sort of usage pattern that incentivizes them to route to weaker models. I also fully acknowledge that I might be making spurious associations
- mandadtabrizi 28d agocodex was working fine until I installed the update and now getting the same error. Gemini and claude are fine but there is an update for both and I'm not taking a chance.
- macwhisperer 28d agohonestly boggles my mind that actual companies put load-bearing (lol) work behind 3rd party api's like claude or gpt.. also its really funny because some of these companies fired actual humans to put said 3rd party api to work in place of humans... like what happens when ur boy claude stops showing up for work huh!?
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