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Google Antigravity TOS: 3rd party usage can get Google account suspended
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- Aeolun 1mo agoWell, I’m glad I’m not using my google account for much any more. Is OpenAI the only one that allows this? Because Codex without codex is fantastic.
- fractorial 1mo ago> Because Codex without codex is fantastic. Seriously: I roll my own harness over OpenRouter and GPT 5.6, and it is genuinely better than CC+Fable for my maths and programming use cases. The one thing Fable 5.1 still tops out on is the ability to take a simple "Let's engage in an interactive complexity-removing session" and materialize abstractions and semantics quickly.
- dnautics 1mo agoYou can wrap claude code in a harness without -p, it works fine. I think most of the concern was that -p resubmits the entire chat history on each prompt which is really bad for kv caching, and when Anthropic announced that they were ok with 3rd party harnesses that DO use -p I think they had figured out the routing and caching for thinking token hash ids
- verdverm 1mo agoI believe you can use an OpenCode Go sub with any tool, was stated as such last time I looked at their docs. per token pay-go is typically unrestricted aiui
- polotics 1mo agoWhat is preventing anyone from automating on top of the normal google Antigravity CLI?
- warpech 1mo agoWouldn’t that violate the quoted ToS? I guess it would.
- anon84873628 1mo ago"Using the service in connection with products not provided by us." The Agy CLI is provided by them.
- kristofferR 1mo agoSo? There's still a connection to products not provided by them. Remember that this is a TOS, so you gotta presume that they will act as malicious as possible within the text.
- Majromax 1mo agoThat line of reasoning has no end. If you use Antigravity on anything other than a Google Chromebook or Pixel, the hardware is a 'product not provided by them'. Is that a TOS violation?
- kristofferR 1mo agoYes. I'd avoid using services like this.
- mcepl 1mo agoAnd if I am not mistaken, Theo’s T3Code (which was explicitly told was bad), doesn’t even use anything else than AI producer provider command line tools and use them with `-p`.
- KeplerBoy 1mo agoI think that is what paseo is doing and I don't risk trying it.
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- danschuller 1mo agoApart from the products not being very competitive this is the main reason I'm reluctant to use any Google models / AI products. The account is way to precious thing to lose based on some AI classifier misfiring and then you know there's good route to get it reenabled.
- Hizonner 1mo agoIf your Google account is precious, you've already done something wrong...
- janalsncm 1mo agoYes as a teenager I made many mistakes, not least of them being making a Gmail account. I even used it to sign up for a few services. I do have a bit of a wild side so sometimes I log in to check it.
- wlesieutre 1mo agoSame. The more of Google's services I touch, the more chance that some errant auto-moderation system will lock me out of Gmail and their support won't do anything about it. Better to not risk it, I don't even log in to YouTube.
- deltoidmaximus 1mo agoGoogle made some noise awhile back about banning youtube accounts for using adblockers. I'm not sure if they went through with it but it just isn't worth the risk if you have a more important service the relies on google.
- ryandrake 1mo agoSounds like a good reason to start eliminating your dependence on Gmail. You don't want to tie something as important as your E-mail identity to an account that you might get banned from.
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- ThatPlayer 1mo agoI've had Codex use antigravity for subagents with 'agy -p'. Is that considered 3rd party usage?
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- anon84873628 1mo agoNo, because you called the service from their client.
- mcepl 1mo agoYes, that's exactly what T3Code does. https://x.com/GergelyOrosz/status/2095453990980817301 https://x.com/GergelyOrosz/status/2095453990980817301
- anon84873628 1mo agoI'm happy to learn otherwise, but that thread doesn't seem to explain anything.
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- ThatPlayer 1mo agoI think the problem with his ask in that initial picture is mentioning Pi, which doesn't do headless CLI, but does do the OAuth that the TOS specifically mentions. It doesn't seem like T3 Code ever implemented antigravity at the time of the post. Now they've added it via ACP: https://github.com/pingdotgg/t3code/pull/9348 https://github.com/pingdotgg/t3code/pull/9348
- warpech 1mo agoWhat is third party? If I self-host OpenClaw, is that third party? If I write my own harness, is that third party? Insane policy Why bother creating a CLI and OAuth interface if your ToS punishes for using it
- anon84873628 1mo agoIt comes down to whether the OAuth token generated by their client is used only in their client. If you register a new OAuth client and generate access tokens for it to call the API, then you are following the rules.
- hmokiguess 1mo agoThe larger issue here is the fact that access to an account can hold you hostage and impact your life in essential services. We should really find a way to break the tightly coupling to these platforms, including mobile carriers, and not have to live in fear. Having a real representative of each platform in a government branch under regular hours that citizens can access with their documents so that any issues with it can be dealt is a good first step.
- killerstorm 1mo agoThe government haven't noticed that email became as important as regular mail, unfortunately.
- skinfaxi 1mo agoThe government has a monopoly on regular mail though (at least in the US). Should email be treated as a utility?
- Zigurd 1mo agoThat would be one way to do it but the problem isn't confined to email. Losing an online identity means losing, in practical terms, access to a wide range of government services and regulatorily required filings. Total bans are convenient for the big platform providers, but they are big enough to be regulated such that people don't lose access to everything, and that there are timely and responsive ways to challenge their decisions. If the industry can't do that on its own, it's a job for the regulators.
- killerstorm 1mo agoSomething like that. I think DNS registry system works pretty well under ICANN supervision: user isn't tied to a specific registrar.
- literalAardvark 1mo agoIt's noticed... selectively. Ours sends revenue service notifications exclusively via email, a lossy system... and legally assumes you got it.
- dbliss 1mo agoI've built a personal meta-harness on top of agy, cc, codex, kiro-cli, ollama that I use to schedule jobs, run oneshot tasks, etc. which provides a general API for my other personal apps that need to do some inference. For example, I built a personal trip app for an upcoming family vacation that uses the inference API to do things like research locations and plan routes, it basically just calls the various cli harness underneath, so it would look like i'm using them directly with their respective model. I wonder if that would get my google account banned? If so i'm definitely taking agy out of the provider options..
- frankacter 1mo agoIt's not clear what your full pipe is from your description, but if you're utilizing your Google Pro bundled quota via 3rd party tooling in any way, then you'd be vulnerable to consequences.
- notduckrabbit 1mo agoI also temporarily had agy as a harness in my orchestrated workflow until I learned about the account bans. IANAL but frontier models examining Google's TOS suggested my use could be in violation. Haven't touched agy for anything since.
- walthamstow 1mo agoAgy has the print option so I don't see how using it is against TOS, but still I'd do that on a burner account.
- lofaszvanitt 1mo agoJust google things. If you buy a monthly package, you pay next day, let's say on the 15th. Then they again pull the monthly amount on the 6th of next month. They pocket your money and the moment you have any issues, well, go F yourself. Everything is automated. They shove your arse out from any service they deem redundant or useless. They zero your data without recourse. GOOG is like a soulless, flesh eating antihuman robot, junkie monopoly-behemoth. Terrible UI/UX, very good models, braindead execution. Protected entity, just like NVDA. Btw Antigravity is the worst of all environments. No money for the braindead. Well, bring your money elsewhere, to small joes instead.
- esseph 1mo ago> Btw Antigravity is the worst of all environments. No money for the braindead. Well, bring your money elsewhere, to small joes instead. What kind of "small joes" are training LLMs???
- lofaszvanitt 1mo agoSmaller :)
- sleepytimetea 1mo agoCan someone point to a mirror of this X link ? It wants me to install the app to read something that I could/should be able to read using my browser.
- tedivm 1mo agoI think an interesting side of this conversation is how the Google employees are jumping in with DARVO attacks, trying to accuse people of spreading misinformation when they're literally quoting the ToS. This is something I've seen happen a lot with Google- their employees (especially the director+ folks) are absolutely rabid on social media when it comes to defending their products, and they don't let little things like "facts" get in the way. Google needs to get a better social media policy because they look like clowns when they do this.
- kmeisthax 1mo agoThere have been cases in which friends or family of Google employees have gotten the Google Death Penalty. In those cases they were internally stonewalled about this for weeks. Google's risk department works like secret police[0] and I would not be surprised if there is internal disinformation about what the policies actually are in there too. Also keep in mind nobody reads the TOS. The TOS is pure Wilhoitism: it exists to protect Google and bind you. There is plenty of shit that gets put in there that Google never intends to do to 90%+ of their customers, but they have to reserve the right to do this anyway. You can infer the general shape of business policy from the the TOS but not the exact details. The only people who actually know anything about Google's business policies are the people in the risk department doing enforcement. The CxO level might have be consulted about specific policies, but a lot of stuff isn't going to rise to their level until it blows up and becomes a PR disaster. [0] I call this the "Maoists in the Risk Department": in general, there is a tendency of all businesses to independently reinvent Maoism when enforcing rules with their customers. You actively discourage "edge-touching" behavior from your customers by making the rules murky and incomprehensible.
- r_lee 1mo agoGooglers expect the consumers of their products to be Googlers who can just read up on the internal info or ping someone etc they don't understand the concept of external users being a thing that's the impression I've gotten
- nairboon 1mo agoJust for reference, stuff like this is exactly why some people oppose the forced Apple/Google requirement in government systems like the new eIDs (eIDAS) in Europe. If you're forced to use Apple/Google for digital identification, playing around with your Google account and get it banned can have disproportional consequences. Suddenly you're locked out of all online government systems.
- shevy-java 1mo agoIt is a very clear act of total betrayal for europan governments to use taxpayers money from Europeans, to invest into US mega-corporations that proxy-enslave Europeans. Lobbyists in Europe are getting rich right now.
- lenerdenator 1mo agoWho gets the money shouldn't be your focus, it's that there's even talk of anyone building such a system at all that should be the focus. Europe has a long history of government abuses of human rights. There's absolutely no guarantee that such a system being designed and implemented by people in Europe as opposed to the US is a safeguard against any sort of human rights issues.
- logicchains 1mo agoWhat do you mean, you don't think a party named the "Alternative for Deutschland" would make benevolent use of such systems when it gets into power?
- yellow_lead 1mo agoYou may also be banned by asking "sensitive" or "inappropriate" questions. So normal usage of Google AI products could also be risky. I don't care if my Claude or OpenAI account is banned, but risking a Google account is different.
- morkalork 1mo agoDoes that apply to the search AI too?
- yellow_lead 1mo agoI don't know but I'm basing my assumptions on this article: Teenager’s Gemini mistake locks entire family out of Google accounts [1]. 1. https://www.pcworld.com/article/3104521/teenagers-gemini-mistake-locks-entire-family-out-of-google-accounts.html https://www.pcworld.com/article/3104521/teenagers-gemini-mis...
- shevy-java 1mo agoLiberate yourself from Google - the de-Google movement is gaining more momentum every day.
- self_awareness 1mo agoMy friend got a ban by using Pi agent with Antigravity. They un-banned him later, but that was enough to stay away. There are much better services than Antigravity out there.
- h_mirin 1mo agoI can be fairly confident that when Google says they don’t see your data, they don’t. I am also fairly confident that nobody sees the moderation decisions either.
- overgard 1mo agoI don't get these model providers forcing people to use their (bad) software. I just downgraded my anthropic account because I can't stand the bugfest that is Claude. I won't even touch google for AI. Doesn't matter if your model is good if I have to use your software.
- esseph 1mo agoAd injection or prepping for ad injection.
- segfaultex 1mo agoWith open-weight models getting closer and closer to parity with frontier models for specific tasks (coding,etc) the frontier labs are trying to make moats via their software. Personally, this is why I foresee Anthropic/OpenAI/Google taking a bath once their creditors come calling. I think the individuals most attached to a specific app are the ones least willing to pay the true cost of inference. (IE: your grandma using chatgpt to ask for recipe recommendations probably isn't going to pay $400/mo).
- dylanowen 1mo agoKind of ironic for these companies to make their moat software while at the same time saying that SaaS and software development in general is obsolete
- verdverm 1mo ago"programming is solved" has also been said, I don't know how someone can say that with a straight face, let alone going on a podcast tour with it as the mantra
- bitexploder 1mo agoDoes Claude not allow third party harnesses?
- dig1 1mo ago> (from Twitter) ...My Google account too valuable to risk it impacted by Antigravity usage If your account is that valuable, it's time to consider moving to a self-hosted option. Or at the very least, start by purchasing a domain and linking it to your Google account, while keeping offline backups of all your emails and documents. The real problem isn't that Google might accidentally ban you; it's that there's no way to get a human in the loop to review the issue. My client is an enterprise GCP user paying a hefty sum every month and getting someone knowledgeable typically means wading through Gemini or talking to (non-technical) support who just read GCP documentation back to you; and it can take months something to get resolved. Now imagine the situation for someone paying nothing or a double-digit for their gmail account or workspace. I'm aware people will complain that self-hosting is hard, insecure, etc. but it's like a backup: an annoying process you truly appreciate when shit hits the fan.
- tedivm 1mo agoI don't self host anymore, as it really is a pain, but use Fastmail instead (while my wife uses Protonmail). I would never rely on Google for, well, anything if I can help it.
- ryandrake 1mo agoI have been self hosting E-mail for close to 15 years now, and apart from the occasional and very rare delivery problem, it's not really a pain at all. Get a dedicated IP address not on a spam blacklist, don't spam, and it's pretty much set and forget. Well worth it to not have your very identity hanging off an account that you might one day be banned for for reasons you can't figure out.
- joseda-hg 1mo agoIf you're, say, Theo, you can selfhost email all you want, but it still ties down your YouTube channel, AdSense, etc., with little to no recourse.
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- AM1010101 1mo agoI don't understand why google are being like this. This is an opportunity to extend an olive branch to developers (like openai has) and a great way to get data around how people are actually making this model work for them regarding coding…
- lovelearning 1mo agoGood that I saw this. The VSCode Antigravity extension I was using turns out to be a 3rd-party one. I found out only today that there's an official extension too, which I think wasn't there earlier.
- Lord_Zero 1mo agoYeah they had gemini extensions, they depreciated them and forked vscode, now they are crawling back to vscode with antigravity extensions...
- smartbit 1mo agoIs Antigravity CLI still the only TUI allowed for Gemini? Coming from Claude Code, agy is quite a few steps back. Particularly I miss /ide that can connect to vscode and then can display a pre-write diff which then can be acknowledged or declined in CC.
- Havoc 1mo agoBanning the entire account rather than AI access is wildly user hostile. People have years of emails and calendars on their accounts. And then you get to fight the support bots and eventually go to the actual unofficial Google support - asking hn whether anyone knows someone with a pulse at Google.
- colkassad 1mo agoGood argument for breaking up the company.
- somehnguy 1mo agoI haven't touched Google's AI suite due to this. I need to migrate my email away from Google - the stakes are too high. Luckily I use a custom domain so accounts won't need to be updated, just emails exported and DNS changed.
- surajrmal 1mo agoThis feels like the sort of thing that needs to be legislated. Banning accounts after breaking ToS is a pretty common behavior across many companies. The fact a Google account ends up being used for multiple products makes it more interesting but the overall problem here is not unique to them.
- account42 1mo agoYes, in general, scale needs to come with more responsibilities, including a requirement to provide due process, not less like it currently does.
- wat10000 1mo agoBig companies are all becoming user hostile these days. They act like the customer is an inconvenience rather than a fundamental part of their business. Every interaction exudes this feeling that your primary role is to serve as an unwanted impediment to money flowing out of your bank account and into theirs.
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- throwaway2027 1mo agoThis is why I'm hesitant to buy Google AI again. I don't want to risk some npm install compromising my Google account which also happens to do AI coding.
- pram 1mo agoThis is exactly why I haven't used any of Google's AI stuff. Unlike other providers, I'm risking my email and internet service (GFiber!) to some capricious ban-happy whim you probably can't even appeal.
- serf 1mo ago>whim you probably can't even appeal. not to beat a dead horse in this thread , but that should give the motivation needed to seek alternatives.
- jwr 1mo agoIf there is any company that can "ban your account" which would result in big problems for you (because, for example, they host your E-mail which means you've just lost access to password recovery for every account you have) with no recourse or due process, you should seriously rethink your approach to your online life. Host your own E-mail, people, or use reliable E-mail providers that are not huge corpo-behemoths that sell you to advertisers. Those smaller E-mail providers will have actual support that you can contact in case of problems and will not "ban you".
- Zigurd 1mo agoAlternatively, impose regulatory requirements to keep the 99% who aren't you safe from big tech companies making decisions for their own convenience.
- nikanj 1mo agoAnd what do you do when VeriSign just decides that they don't like hosting your domain anymore? You just lost access to password recovery for every account you have https://neil.fraser.name/news/2026/09/03/ https://neil.fraser.name/news/2026/09/03/
- deno 1mo agoAlso word of warning: don't buy Google AI subscription before you confirm you have "Antigravity entitlement" whatever that is. You can have "verified" account (for 18+ and Gmail), bank card added, active AI Pro subscription, and still you won't be able to use even the free tier of Antigravity. And their verification is some major AI slop that just doesn't work. This is open from June but this was already a bug in Gemini CLI before then: https://github.com/google-antigravity/antigravity-cli/issues/312 https://github.com/google-antigravity/antigravity-cli/issues...
- cesarb 1mo agoThat's the reason I avoided ever logging into YouTube: if for some reason they decided that my real name is not my real name, due to the Google+ integration, I could lose access to more important things like Google Talk. Nowadays, with a Google account being all but required to use a non-Apple smartphone, it's even worse.
- pkfz 1mo agoThat reminds me the story about closing family wide Google accounts, because of a kid, whose account was managed by Google Family Link, was sending naked selfies to Gemini https://www.pcworld.com/article/3104521/teenagers-gemini-mistake-locks-entire-family-out-of-google-accounts.html https://www.pcworld.com/article/3104521/teenagers-gemini-mis...
- x0x0 1mo agofwiw, google said that didn't happen. https://www.androidauthority.com/google-account-bans-3654171/ https://www.androidauthority.com/google-account-bans-3654171... Not taking a side, but I remember that too and had looked later. That said, I deliberately don't trust any google services. Fastmail is great; you all should try it. Google capriciously bans accounts, so keep your email elsewhere.
- 0cf8612b2e1e 1mo agoThere was that father who sent some naked pictures of his kid to a nurse for a consultation. Google flagged the account for CSAM and reported him to the authorities. Even after being cleared of all charges, Google refused to reinstate his account, so he lost his digital life. Tried to use modern technology for the health of his son and was digitally executed for it. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/22/google-csam-account-blocked https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/22/google-cs...
- x0x0 1mo agoI'm aware. Like I said, you're foolish to trust google. That said, the claim in the reddit post: that the ban spread across the entire gsuite account and also any account that used that device, is far more aggressive.
- simonw 1mo agoI talked about that case with a friend who used to work at Google and, whether or not that specific case was true, he did confirm that any CSAM at all in an account can very often make account recovery completely impossible.
- Lord_Zero 1mo agoIf you have not already, use Google Takeout to download a copy of your data. Especially email, contacts, timeline, google drive, and photos.
- maxglute 1mo agoGoogle still owns me a few $100 when they banned my watch only youtube red (premium at the time) account for community guideline violations which prevented me from even accessing payment page to stop / cancel. Had to do automated repeals limited every x weeks, couldn't risk charge back or changing credit card incase it fucked with rest of account. Made a separate account to grab my playlists and got banned again for same issue (again watch only accounts) and kept double charging as well. Appeals did nothing... interesting enough both accounts got unbanned like 2 years+ later.. out of blue. I surmise only because I appealed at the time so they made it through some backlog. I have 3rd gmail/youtube account on some generic side project email at the time unbeknownst to be also had youtube banned, literally never used it and only found out it was banned after going to youtube this year trying to post something side project related, and it cannot even be appealed, because it was banned so long ago. Sigh. For reference, when my wechat account was blocked a few years ago, I got escalated to talking a real person and sorted everything out in a few days.
- jauntywundrkind 1mo agoCan someone link the previous time this kerfuffle happened? That time it seemed like indeed we had misinterpreted, and that at that time they weren't banning accounts just cutting off AI access. But there were a lot of very good very real outraged comments condemning it, even though at the time it was not the policy. But now! Oh man, the mechanization against humanity proceeding rapidly apace.
- alpineman 1mo agoThis shouldn't be allowed. EU regulatory avengers...assemble
- literalAardvark 1mo agoThe EU setup an entire EUID system on Google. Hopefully that'll help unlock some accounts since there may be an expectation to continue providing the service.
- EmbarrassedHelp 1mo agoThe EU Commission is currently rushing ahead with their anti-privacy age verification plans that require Google/Apple account to function. They aren't going to save anyone from this. I also wouldn't be surprised to learn that the Commission is trying to get Google to be more proactive at banning accounts and preventing individuals from being able to create new ones. That's what the States were demanding in the recent court case against Meta.
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- thenthenthen 1mo agoI cant even login via cli, also Gemini doesnt work.
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- simonsarris 1mo ago> The wording is confusing but the account in question is the Antigravity account. We will change the ToS wording here to make that clearer. - Varun Mohan on the antigravity team https://x.com/_mohansolo/status/2095529407033000260 https://x.com/_mohansolo/status/2095529407033000260
- bilalq 1mo agoZero trust in Google making that distinction correctly. Antigravity is DOA for me.
- bryan0 1mo agoThere is no world in which it makes sense to take this risk. There are plenty of great alternatives where you don't have to worry about playing russian roulette with your entire online identity.
- stronglikedan 1mo ago> with your entire online identity Seems like one account for idendity (gmail and personal gemini assistant) and another for everything else would be a best practice.
- earth-tattoo 1mo agoGoogle can and will block any linked accounts as well. For some reason I'm not allowed on AdWords. I have tried making new accounts and they always block my ads. I don't know how they figure it out that it's me. Other people on the same wifi have no issues running same ads (for same YouTube videos).
- croes 1mo agoDid you use Chrome?
- ckocagil 1mo agoI'd rather go the other way and entirely decouple my online identity from Google (or Apple/Meta/Microsoft). Much better than constantly worrying about some crappy AI deciding to ruin your life with no recourse.
- blfr 1mo agoThis would have been a massive issue if Antigravity/Gemini were any good. I don't appreciate but kinda understand that Anthropic can act arrogant with Fable. Google (shockingly) is really in no position for this.
- moshegramovsky 1mo ago100% this. I was a huge Gemini fan, and I think the model itself is still very good. But Antigravity is absolutely horrible. It routinely writes broken code and then ends up in a short term cycle of reverting and re-implementing. It's so bad that I don't use it for writing code and certainly wouldn't even bother trying to get it to refactor anything. It's been relegated it to analysis and planning. It is excellent there. I can't be the only one who find this a little inexplicable that a company with Google's resources is fumbling this so badly.
- verdverm 1mo agoor that the company that invented transformers is fumbling this so badly many of their best people left during the SaaS boom cycle in the 20'oughts, current leadership is abysmal there is also that well known promotion incentive misalignment at big g
- serf 1mo agoGemini is great (and fast) at vision tasks. It's a huge benefit to add on to an existing pi/omp harness install just for that feature to use in conjunction with other (stronger) models. Too bad this anti 3rd party usage stance basically makes that a huge risk for a lot of people, it was the only thing Gemini has been competitive in outside of API cost.
- swingboy 1mo agoDo they ban the offending account by itself or all of your accounts?
- RIMR 1mo agoI completely understand the concern here, but the person linked is being dramatic and obtuse. The terms seem to directly relate to your Google Antigravity account. Google has limited GCP suspensions to its cloud service, not your entire account. That is the same spirit of this TOS and what the head of Antigravity has clarified. The terms already make it clear that the context isn't your entire Google account. Misunderstanding the TOS is a silly reason to demand that Google change their TOS. When confronted with this, the goalpost suddenly moves from "Getting banned from Antigravity bans your entire Google account" to "Getting banned from Antigravity has additional effects"; the only example they can provide is unsubstantiated third-party claims of losing access to Gemini CLI after getting suspended from Antigravity. This is nonsense because these tools are essentially the same thing, with Antigravity being the successor to Gemini CLI. It makes sense that if you get caught violating the TOS for their newer LLM service, you would get banned from all legacy iterations of that LLM service as well. That's hardly getting your entire Google account nuked... I don't see what the big deal here is. If you want to use Antigravity, you are safe to do so. If you intend for the service to provide tokens to third-party applications, use API billing or face suspension of your Antigravity access for deliberately bypassing their locks and violating the TOS. Why is this unreasonable?
- r_lee 1mo agoit's not really over dramatic, considering it's entirely plausible they'd just ban your whole account, it's not like it'd impact even 0.000001% of users, who cares about them
- gamblor956 1mo agoGoogle has a history of doing account wide bans. If after more than a decade of complaints they have finally figured out service specific bans they need to tell people that.
- dimgl 1mo agoI'm currently working on a harness and I just integrated Antigravity support through `agy`. I can't risk my main Google account getting banned so it looks like I'll be stopping this immediately. Yikes... and I was feeling good about 3.8 Flash too...
- verdverm 1mo agoOpenCode is a good harness that works with every token vendor
- johnnyApplePRNG 1mo agoIs theo a paid shill for openai? Because he's certainly coming off as such.
- whatthesmack 1mo agoNo, he is not. It's just that OpenAI has just been doing things a lot better than their competitors lately, and he often highlights the things that make this true.
- subscribed 1mo agoAnd this, dear Watson, is why we never use Google services for anything serious. And we tell our children the same.
- PunchyHamster 1mo agoThey really want to get themselves out of relevance huh
- nikanj 1mo agoAnything can get Google account suspended. Someone in your school was being a shit and registered troll accounts? Google's mighty hammer smites every account that ever logged in from that external IP. If you're lucky or famous, you can reach HN front page and get your account reinstated. For ordinary rubes, tough luck.
- dizhn 1mo agoThere's a two week old and 1.5gb (compressed Python archive file) Antigravity ACP server now so things are a tiny bit better. But the agy cli reminds me early Aider. It's literally embarrassing.
- esoltys 1mo agoThere are official extensions for using Antigravity in IDEs. "Antigravity uses a unified authentication system across all IDE extensions, the Antigravity CLI, and Antigravity 2.0 (Desktop). Your sign-in determines your model entitlements, quota limits, and data privacy policies." https://antigravity.google/docs/ide/extensions/ https://antigravity.google/docs/ide/extensions/
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- matheusmoreira 1mo agoIt's never too late to degoogle. Buy a domain. Get fastmail, proton mail or any other service. Point your DNS to it. Done.
- evanjrowley 1mo agoGoogle has been becoming more like Apple in both positive and negative ways. Not a fan of this era.
- julianz 1mo agoSpeaking from experience here, they don't ban your entire Google account, they block access to Antigravity (and only that, other Google AI services are still available). Pi very briefly supported logging into Antigravity a few months ago, I did so and made a couple of toy queries and then didn't use it again, and my Antigravity access was suspended until a few weeks ago. The process to get un-suspended was completely byzantine and Google's own support desk wasn't able to do anything. I just kept trying newer versions of Antigravity until it eventually grew the ability to explain what was going on and then let me request access back.
- Grombobulous 1mo agoIs anyone really using Antigravity? It seemed rather hyped when it launched but since then I have heard absolutely nothing about it and don’t have a single contact in my Rolodex who uses it. Out of all the AI-enabled coding environments it seems to have the most downsides.
- jeffbee 1mo agoAnthropic has these exact same terms.
- Espressosaurus 1mo agoAnthropic does not control the last 15 years of my digital life. Or the method by which I reset accounts for other services. Or my phone.
- r0fl 1mo agoI’ve been an antigravity user since day one. It’s been great when I hit usage limits. I’ve uninstalled it and will never again use a Google ai product since my Gmail account is simply too important to lose. I don’t care if it’s 10x better and 10x cheaper , these kind of terms are insane!
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- notatoad 1mo agoi was using antigravity pretty heavily for a while in the spring, it seemed to be a good value for my usage. then i got banned out of the blue for "suspected" ToS violations, with a notification that heavily hinted it was because of openclaw. i've never used openclaw, never tried to use my google ai subscription anywhere other than the antigravity app. but apparently just "our ai mistakenly suspects you might be using openclaw" is enough to get your google account temporarily suspended. not worth the risk for me, i need a google account more than i need antigravity. and the ban would be bad enough, but the communication was nonexistent. just a sign-in error on the antigravity app, then a day later it updated to show a vauge warning about openclaw with a link to a random google form to submit an appeal, and then a couple days later my account magically started working again.
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