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JetBrains Doomsday Sale - 75% off for 24 hours only
- nopassrecover 14y agoHaha I just upgraded my Resharper license last night. That was a mistake.
- S_A_P 14y agoI cant wait for the cart to be up. I have 4 purchases to make.
- deckchair 14y agoyou do know that buYing intelliJ gets you virtually all of the other IDE's as free plugins?
- benologist 14y agoNOOOOO. I've been waiting to upgrade Resharper for VS2012 and their page is offline.
- thisone 14y agoA personal license for Resharper is exactly why I've been hoping for a sale.
- sturmeh 14y agoSick of waiting for my work to buy a volume licence, but seeing as it's a nicety and not a need to have, I might as well do the same.
- hhariri 14y agoWe're working on it. Sorry. Response has been overwhelming.
- rdemmer 14y agoThe response was overwhelming! We should be back up and running shortly :-)
- bitdiffusion 14y agobtw - personal licences only (i.e. not commercial licenses).
- robmcm 14y agoNot sure what happens if you are self employed or have a limited company to consult from.
- porker 14y agoThat's the issue; JetBrains seem entirely unaware of that. I am one man operating through a limited company. According to them I have to buy the commercial edition even though I am the company...
- anu_gupta 14y agoYou can buy a personal licence using your own credit card. What you can't do is buy a license using your company credit card, or claim back the expense.
- nopassrecover 14y agoAs I understood it a personal license is just a named license (you can still use it commercially).
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- bitdiffusion 14y agoFrom the documentation: Personal licenses are not available to companies in any way or form. Transfer of personal licenses to any third party and/or reimbursement for personal license purchase by a company are prohibited by the Personal License Agreement. So not sure what to make of that exactly... Individuals can buy it and use it commercially but companies can't? Even if you're a contractor working in your spare time, you are likely to be registered as a limited company.
- tharshan09 14y agoI need pycharm student licence! is that included?
- Cthulhu_ 14y agoNo, but the personal license is now actually cheaper than the academic license (at least for IDEA), so you're actually better off. Pretty sure the academic license is no longer valid as soon as you finish school.
- pserwylo 14y agoIf I recall correctly, the Academic version of Idea was $100AUD, and now the personal version is only $50. I was going to buy the academic version (for PhD related development), but now I'll definitely buy the personal version. I imagine it would be the same value for PyCharm.
- bornhuetter 14y agoFantastic! I've been trying out PyCharm and really loving it. I'm used to programming in nice cozy Windows IDEs, so this is making picking up Python a lot easier for me than using vi or Sublime.
- vitalique 14y agoFunny, I find the IdeaVim plugin that emulates some Vim functionality to be one of my top reasons for loving all the JetBrains products.
- bornhuetter 14y agoThe big thing for me is stuff like good code completion. I import a library and can just type "objectname." and then it tells me all the properties and methods of the object. I don't know if there are any plugins for Vim to make that work, but in Pycharm it works very well straight out of the box.
- rpm4321 14y agoCan someone chime in with how Pycharm compares to Komodo Edit - or maybe just if you've had a positive/negative experience with Pycharm? I'm starting to get a little frustrated with Komodo, and I remember liking a very brief Pycharm demo I tried a few years back, but I'd love to hear an HNer's opinion if you happen to use it day to day. It seemed to have a pretty good reputation back then, but one of the concerns I had was hearing something on HN about it occasionally "optimizing" or making modifications to your code unilaterally. Thanks in advance.
- jkbr 14y agoI have used PyCharm daily since its early versions and have been mostly happy with it. When I think about it, it's actually the first IDE for any language I've kept using for longer than a couple of weeks. The best features for me include code navigation, run/test/debug, refactoring, inspections, keyboard-friendliness. It's also got a decent editor and built-in support for Sass and CoffeeScript. Btw, they also provide a free licence for open source development.
- heyitsnick 14y ago> When I think about it, it's actually the first IDE for any language I've kept using for longer than a couple of weeks. This is exactly what I say when people ask about pyCharm. I think i've tried a dozen IDEs and its the only one I stuck to. I've used it for a couple of years now for django and python development (and they've also just added first-class Flask support), plus I use it for front-end/javascript coding now too, I couldn't live without it now.
- zedr 14y agoI've been using PyCharm for almost a year now, for professional development (and some pet projects), and I am very happy with it. I never had PyCharm making undetected changes to my code.
- gituliar 14y agoWhat about WingIDE? Does it make sense to switch to PyCharm?
- scrumper 14y agoJudging by how slow your site is at 7am EST, I'd say your sale is a big success :) Anyone used AppCode? I'm tempted to give it a try, but what's its killer features compared to Xcode? If refactoring works with ObjC++ that'd be a great start; worth EUR23 alone.
- marcog1 14y agohttp://codesheriff.blogspot.com/2012/02/xcode-vs-appcode.html http://codesheriff.blogspot.com/2012/02/xcode-vs-appcode.htm... This article summed it up quite well for me when I was making the decision.
- epaga 14y agoThis screenshot alone is worth $25 to me: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nGVTKms6ALo/TysNLgb6rGI/AAAAAAAAAJ8/ocVZWJKST_Q/s640/AppCodeSandboxTests.m+-+%5B~_dev_sandboxes_AppCodeSandbox%5D+-+JetBrains+AppCode+(AppCode)+OC-112.567-1.png http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nGVTKms6ALo/TysNLgb6rGI/AAAAAAAAAJ...
- scrumper 14y agoThanks, both: very helpful.
- hrabago 14y agoIt works great for me. If I'm making just minor code tweaks or configuration changes, I stay on Xcode. Whenever I expect to do more coding, I launch AppCode. I had already been an Intellij user for a few years before starting on iOS projects on the side. At the time, AppCode wasn't available yet, so I had no choice. The more I used Xcode, the more I lamented the lack of choice. Once AppCode came out, I bought it right away. It's a lot more stable and usable now, and I would definitely recommend it to anyone who has used anything other than Xcode. If you've been an Xcode user all your life, you don't really know any better, and that's fine, more power to you. If you've used any other IDE before, you know the features that Xcode lacks, and AppCode is the alternative you've been hoping for.
- moondowner 14y ago50 bucks for IntelliJ IDEA?! This is more than a bargain.
- Cthulhu_ 14y agoIt seems they got HNned / slashdotted / reddited (?) pretty quickly. Here's to hoping they can get it back up soon - I postponed buying a license because I didn't have enough money on my paypal account last time.
- floydpink 14y agoI like the Copyright date range at the bottom of that page. I recently renewed my WebStorm license (it's valid till August 2013). If anyone from Jetbrains is reading this, can I renew it for another year today?
- neonshot 14y agoCan anyone vouch for RubyMine? Its going to be my first venture in to the language, is it a good tool to have? I'm looking at Rubymine and PHPstorm, at these prices ill call it a Christmas present from me to me. Unfortunately lots of other people seem to have the same idea and the site is currently bricked.
- rurounijones 14y agoOne vote for rubymine. It handles all the rubyisms like rvm, rbenv, bundler and the various servers nicely as well as syntax hightlighting for all the ususals plus haml, coffeescript etc. It also looks like it will be getting nice Torquebox integration soon if you are a jruby / Torquebox person. I must admit though that I do not use the advanced features half as much as I should.
- thisone 14y agoI'm a ruby novice, and I love me my IDEs. I've been quite happy with RubyMine, this coming from a Visual Studio user. It also integrates with using Foreman so you can still debug in the IDE, which since I deploy to Heroku (and I'm a big ol Ruby novice), was a really big plus.
- danmaz74 14y agoRubyMine is very good.
- neonshot 14y agoSold. Thanks everyone, this is why i love this community =)
- ConstantineXVI 14y agoEvery Ruby user I know personally that's tried RubyMine loves it; from total beginners to experts (myself included). Note that IntelliJ effectively includes both RubyMine and PHPStorm (+ PyCharm); it's the better choice if you're wanting both.
- matthuggins 14y agoRubyMine has my vote for best Ruby IDE (at least in terms of what I've personally used). It has many helpful features (e.g.: click-through to classes/method definitions), and its ability to debug just pushes it right over the top to make it a must-have for me.
- fingerprinter 14y agoDoes anyone know how, say, IntelliJ handles Javascript? or RubyMine? For instance, If I've got a Rails project with JS in it, do I need both WebStorm and RubyMine? Wish there was "one IDE to rule them all!" type of thing. I don't work in just one language.
- blibble 14y agoIf you install the JetBrains Python plugin into IDEA you get the same functionality as PyCharm, same with Ruby.
- mweibel 14y agoIf I have pycharm - is it more or less the same when I install e.g. the Ruby plugin?
- ConstantineXVI 14y agoI believe only IntelliJ gets the other IDEs as plugins.
- uxp 14y agoI don't know if this is true (I'm not disputing it), however AppCode has officially been recognized as the only IDE version that will ever be compatible with *.xcodeproj files. It's functionality is not 'plugin-able'.
- noarchy 14y agoYou're right, though I think that AppCode is an unusual case; you can only use it on OS X, right? It is a completely different beast. For IDEA, though, you can indeed get the same functionality of PHPStorm, PyCharm, etc, by simply using their respective plugins for IDEA. However, the plugins are sometimes behind the stand-alone IDEs, in terms of features.
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- UnoriginalGuy 14y agoThis web-site needs Cloudflare or similar. I cannot get a darn thing to load.
- ghshephard 14y agoConcur - Site is non responsive (well, pages are taking 60+ seconds to load) right now. I'll check back in a few hours.
- gorohoroh 14y agoSorry, we're on it. Most of jetbrains.com resources should be working right now, estore we're trying to push back to service. Current estimate: 2-3 hours
- jQueryIsAwesome 14y agoThe assets are all in the same site[0], even Photobucket as CDN could help here. [0]http://www.jetbrains.com/specials/img/end/bgr_page.png http://www.jetbrains.com/specials/img/end/bgr_page.png
- teraflop 14y agoMy advice: don't say your site is down for "scheduled maintenance" when it's obviously because of an unexpected surge in traffic. It just makes you look dishonest. (Well, either that or really terrible at scheduling your maintenance periods.)
- gorohoroh 14y agoA hell of advice. Will pass that over to the team who's maintaining JetBrains estore. Thanks )
- outdooricon 14y agoI've always been very pro-Eclipse... however this kind of price and the feature list have me clicking the IntelliJ buy button
- thomasjoulin 14y agoSeems like a good idea to make a lot people know the product and renew the product for $59 next year. I'm in as soon as the site is back up
- soapdog 14y agoI have WebStorm and it is great. I was thinking about phpStorm and appCode. Can someone confirm that IDEA with Plugins will have the same feature of those apps? I am trying to see what is best to buy separate apps or IDEA alone and add plugins.
- strandev 14y agoAppCode is not a part of the IDEA bundle. It follows XCode more closely than the generic project format that IDEA and the other apps use.
- soapdog 14y agoThanks for the answer! I am going to try to find whats a part of the IDEA bundle so that I have a more defined picture before purchasing :-D
- sandis 14y agoCheck out this comparsion chart: http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/editions_comparison_matrix.html?IU http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/features/editions_comparison_m...
- bio4m 14y agoJetbrains site seems to be down completely now; I keep getting a maintenance page
- sergiotapia 14y agoI'm in Bolivia but I get prices in British Pounds including VAT costs. What gives? If I use a service like HideMyAss.com to get the US page, I can see the goods in dollars and that price I should be charged. Any suggestions? I shouldn't have to pay VAT as I'm not located in the EU. Thanks!
- nopassrecover 14y agoI think their location detection code is lagging out a bit, but on every pricing page I've seen there's a bit to change your country to anything you like.
- rdemmer 14y ago@sergiotapia, you can switch your country... on the purchase page you should find text below the table to do this... Purchases from 123 are charged in XYZ. If you are not from 123, please select your country
- sergiotapia 14y agoThanks! That dropdown was really hard to find, and the text for that option has bad contrast with the background. Works!
- rdemmer 14y agoHappy to hear that!
- jhaaps 14y agoConversion rates are also pretty bad as 50 USD transforms into 47€ + VAT. I'm not really complaining since this is still a good deal.
- sigzero 14y agoWow, this is great. My PyCharm upgrade is due and I might get the IDEA license too!
- sparx 14y agoyou could just purchase IDEA and install python/ruby/c++ plugins for free
- robmcm 14y agoIf there is one thing they learn from this sale, it's that no one seems to understand what IDEA is, and how each product relates to each other!
- kaolinite 14y agoIs it true that there's no difference between IDEA with plugins and PyCharm, etc? I haven't used these products before so have no idea and I've heard a few people saying similar things.
- robmcm 14y agoHave a look though the other comments, but it seems to be that way.
- ConstantineXVI 14y agoOnly real difference I'm aware of is the release schedule; as far as I can tell the plugins get major updates with IntelliJ releases, not alongside the separate IDEs. (It's possible I'm wrong, just my observations)
- markahern 14y agoI've been using PyCharm for 2 years now and I love it. I am thinking of buying WebStorm, as the web app I work on has gotten a lot more JS heavy. Would I be better off getting IntelliJ and getting plugins for it, or having PyCharm and WebStorm separately? This has an impact down the road when I have to renew licences!
- shad0wfax 14y agoIs there a reason you need Webstorm? From what I have tried to find, Pycharm includes Webstorm features and any missing features (Node.js) can be downloaded as a plugin. Do you know any specific feature that you are looking for that is not in Pycharm? I am in a similar situation and was wondering the same.
- jalanco 14y agoIn case you're not able to get through right now: The offer is valid until Friday, 21 December 2012, 5:11 am CST (GMT-6)
- Cthulhu_ 14y agoI'm inclined to believe (if they want to be nice to their customers) that they'll extend the offer if the site remains unavailable like it is right now for the next 24 hours.
- gorohoroh 14y agoOf course, if we're into an extended out-of-service period, we'll prolong the offer. Current service restoration estimate is 2-3 hours though. Sorry, please hold on )
- jalanco 14y agoIf far as I'm concerned, you were definitely in an extended out-of-service period, but this morning it appears you decided NOT to extend the offer. That's too bad.
- sparx 14y agointellij idea 50 bucks only, this is a steal !!!
- benologist 14y agoYou know what would make this a really awesome sale? If we could just buy it all for an even bigger discount.
- elehack 14y agoWith the exception of reShaper, YouTrack, and the Obj-C environment, I think that's called IntelliJ…
- benologist 14y agoYeah I figured that after from all the comments here, IntelliJ is one of the few on the list I never actually looked at because I don't work with Java much.
- ryanguill 14y agoAre you saying that intelliJ has the features of pycharm and appcode? or am I misunderstanding?
- dotmanish 14y agoYes, it does, via plugins for PHP and Python. Based upon the other comments here, it seems the release cycle of plugins lags a bit.
- homer-simpson 14y agoCan someone explain to me what does it mean to "renew" the license? If I pay for the license now, assuming the world does not end tomorrow, will I have to pay for it again next year? How much?
- m12k 14y agoRenewing just means you get another year of upgrades. Not renewing doesn't mean you lose the right to use what you already bought.
- ircambridge 14y agoThe renew is for the subscription license for upgrades. With some of the applications you can get all the updates for free for a year and then you would have to buy a new subscription if you want newer versions if you don't want to pay any more you can continue to use the version you have until the end of the world.
- rdemmer 14y agoThe renewal is optional. You would still be able to use the builds released, during your valid subscription period after it ended. But in case you wanted to use builds that will be released after your subscription ended, you would have to go for a renewal.
- speg 14y agoAm I the only one who can't stand their interfaces? It looks terribly out of place on OS X (the icons, those tabs!). I don't know why it seems every app built on Java has to look like that.
- robmcm 14y agoThere are some nice themes in the new one, but yes it's not up to the polish of XCode. However it does work very well... Being cross platform has it's issues, see iTunes on PC? However Adobe seem to do a decent job, perhaps being a creative company helps.
- taude 14y agoSeen iTunes on a Mac?
- hamidpalo 14y agoUsing IntelliJ 12 with Darcula enabled with with a custom dark scheme, looks very nice actually.
- ConstantineXVI 14y agoThe Cocoa bindings for Java are deprecated; so "every app built on Java" _has_ to look like that. I'd rather have a good and usable tool than a pretty one; instead of wasting time fighting unsupported bindings or trying to replicate them (likely poorly).
- sproketboy 14y agoYes, you are.
- Gmo 14y agoI had never heard of WebStorm before, and on the wikipedia page, they seem to say that all of its functionalities are part of IntelliJ IDEA. Is it true ? If I buy IntelliJ IDEA, will I be able to do everything that can be done in WebStorm ? (just trying to not buy both if it is not necessary)
- robmcm 14y agoIt's my understanding that Idea can do everything the other products can do. The others are just cheaper as they have limited features. EDIT - From reading the comments I think appCode is separate but the others can be installed as plug-ins to IDEA, I presume for free.
- sparx 14y agoso true, and IDEA is worthy of every penny you will spend.
- tomku 14y agoIntelliJ IDEA has the functionality of all of their other products except appCode available as plugins, but the plugins aren't necessarily as up-to-date as the standalone products. The plugin version usually gets updated a couple months after a major version of the standalone product is released, in my experience. For example, the plugin list for my copy of IntelliJ Ultimate 11 (cheap upgrade to 12 incoming, woo) shows a PHP plugin whose description says "PhpStorm/WebStorm 4.0.3 version". PhpStorm 5 was released in September, but a lot of the IntelliJ plugins for its features haven't seen an update since then. Edit: Upgraded to IDEA 12, and it looks like the bundled plugins contain full WebStorm 5 functionality.
- gorohoroh 14y agoY, IntelliJ IDEA does provide all the functionality that WebStorm provides + support for more languages.
- shiven 14y agoLooks like their servers have had a meltdown ... Clearly they underestimated the planet-wide morphic resonance across software developers for pre-apocalypse deep discounts on IDEs :)
- lukeholder 14y agoStill not loading for me.
- cowboyhero 14y agoI downloaded a trial of PhpStorm last week, and loaded an old CodeIgniter project into it. The app flagged objects, methods, and variables that were created in other files as "undefined." I could see how that would be helpful under other circumstances, but does anyone know if PhpStorm is set up to play nice with most PHP frameworks? Also: For smaller projects, is there any advantage to buying a Python IDE over just using a tricked out version of Vi? Auto complete is nice & all, but Vi is Vi.
- lhnz 14y agoThere is normally a little bit of setup to do in getting it to detect objects, methods, and variables. Normally I have to add some stuff into the libraries section. (Sometimes this doesn't work when there is a lot of indirection.) It does play nicely with Zend and Silex (and other composer-style frameworks). I'm not sure about Symfony or CodeIgnitor. I must say I really like PyCharm as a Python IDE. Tricked out vim is just too hard to install onto new machines, etc.
- ing33k 14y agoI have been using PhpStorm for a Symfony2 project since 2-3 months and the integration is very good.
- jasonlotito 14y agoPHPStorm plays nice when any framework. The issue it's going to have is when Frameworks do not clearly document, or when they make bad decisions about things. You can, of course turn off different levels of inspections to account for the project you are working on. However, I've found that for the most part, if PHPStorm is flagging something like "undefined method," it's essentially saying "you are hoping that this works as expected." It's a form of static analysis. I'm not surprised that an old CodeIgniter project flagged these issues. As for vi, I use vi every day as well. I switch between that and PHPStorm. It depends on the context that I'm in. Both are wonderful tools. But I can assure you, auto-complete is a basic feature of PHPStorm. It's akin to 'set nu'. Edit: This comment comes off as a bit snarky. It's not intended to be. I think JetBrains and it's line of products are excellent, and I've only ever had good experiences with them. I wouldn't want my comment to reflect poorly on them.
- jonnii 14y agoDamn, I was going to buy 5 team city agent licenses, but they're not on sale! =(
- brianchu 14y agoI've been pretty satisfied with just using Eclipse and PyDev/Aptana Studio so far with Django. Any thoughts on the advantages of PyCharm?
- hmottestad 14y agoA friend says it's a lot nicer. I convinced him to try it because I use Intellij and love it. He now loves PyCharm. Also, you can always give it a spin for free and see if you like it. I think just simple things like startup times and auto complete speed will make you want it.
- toyg 14y agoPyCharm now manages virtualenvs like a champ. It's absolutely bloody great.
- ryanguill 14y agodo you know if that goes for the python plugin for intellij IDEA too?
- nikon 14y agoDamn! Only bought phpStorm last week, would have been nice to have got a 75% reduction.
- eneveu 14y agoNooooooooooooooo... I bought the Intellij IDEA 12 upgrade 3 days ago... I paid 111€ (including VAT) instead of 27€... I now it's irrational, but I'm sad.
- canttestthis 14y ago47€ * Their dollar-euro conversion rate is pretty bad.
- eneveu 14y agoI paid 111€ to upgrade (94€ + 19% french VAT). If I were to upgrade now, it would cost 27€ (23€ + 19% french VAT). I wonder if I should just cancel the upgrade and buy a new license. According to the terms and conditions on the Digital River website, I have a legal "cooling off period" of two weeks.
- swalsh 14y agoI feel you man, i upgraded resharper a few weeks ago.
- swalsh 14y agoNOOO my boss is on vacation until next year, how am I supposed to get approval? Edit: Oh apparently it's for personal editions only.
- epaga 14y agoThe only sale is for the personal edition - so your boss' approval wouldn't help anyways. ;)
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- sturmeh 14y agoJust buy your own copy, you are allowed to use it at work but you can't share it with other people. Also you have to buy it with your own money.
- swalsh 14y agoI actually already have it for personal use (which I bought for my personal use in side projects) I was really hoping to get resharper for my coworkers. Every time I go to a computer without it, I realize all the best things I love in Visual Studio turn out to be features from Resharper :D
- chokma 14y agoFrom the license page, it does not look like you are allowed to use your copy at work (would be great if this were possible ;) ): "Personal licenses are not available to companies in any way or form. Transfer of personal licenses to any third party and/or reimbursement for personal license purchase by a company are prohibited by the Personal License Agreement" http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/buy.jsp#personal http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/buy/buy.jsp#personal
- josephlord 14y agoI've glanced through the license. You are allowed to install it on as many machines as you need as long as only you use it. I can't see any limitations on what work you can do or who for. My conclusion is that as long as you have paid for it you can use it at work but cannot reclaim expenses for it or transfer it in any way.
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- jrs235 14y agoUgh. I tried adding a product to the cart and got a "Some JetBrains services are currently down for scheduled maintenance. We'll be back online shortly. Thanks for your patience." page. Someone chose a really bad time for scheduled maintenance... I'm doubting it was scheduled. Hope they get this resolved soon.
- hhariri 14y agoWorking on it. Sorry about this.
- martinced 14y agoPlease resolve this fast: I got a 404 when clicking on "Buy now". Does the doomsday 47 Euros version 11 of IntelliJ IDEA qualifies for the free upgrade to version 12? If it does please resolve this fast or give us 24 hours from the time the issue is fixed ; )
- swalsh 14y agoI'm not sure if you guys blog, but i'd love to see what kind of spike in sales this drove... you know assuming the world didn't end.
- kaolinite 14y agoAll the developers at the company I work for are very excited by this. We're all trying to buy stuff but it's 404ing :-(
- pbhjpbhj 14y agoSo was it scheduled or do you lie to your [potential] customers as a matter of policy?
- jug6ernaut 14y agoI want intellij idea, but it seems doomsday has fallen on there servers...
- gorohoroh 14y agoSorry, working on the problem. Current back-to-service estimate: 2-3 hours.
- sigzero 14y agoI hope it becomes "48 hours only" because they are getting slammed.
- pc86 14y agoIs it randomly picking a country it "thinks" I'm from? I opened seven products in different tabs and it's defaulting to US, Netherlands, Belgium, Russian Federation, US, US, and China.
- jrs235 14y agoI think that has something to do with it being the end of the world and all.
- pknerd 14y agoWhat's will all these _Dooms Day_ sale. I wonder whether it's really clever?
- ivanhoe 14y agoAny news when the shop will be back up?
- mmaunder 14y agoVim. That is all.
- _JamesA_ 14y agoThere's a plugin for that. http://plugins.intellij.net/plugin/?id=164 http://plugins.intellij.net/plugin/?id=164
- mritun 14y agoUnless their aim was to just create hype and not actually do much sale, it's extremely badly planned execution. Their site (shopping cart actually) has been down for nearly 4 hrs now.
- hhariri 14y agoFar from it was it our intention and we're actively working on solving. Please be patient.
- rdemmer 14y agoI can assure you that this was not to "just create hype" and that the team is working to get up and running as quickly as possible.
- mritun 14y agoI trust you that it's just bad planning, been waiting for hours with my CC in hand.
- rdemmer 14y agoGotcha. We have our hand on the pulse and will keep everybody here posted.
- gorohoroh 14y agoCurrent estimate to restore service: 2-3 hours.
- tseabrooks 14y agoI have finally checked out! I've purchases IntelliJ! 3 hours in the making!
- mritun 14y agoFinally placed the order and got confirmation email. Thank you
- subwiz 14y agoWhen will the site be up?
- dnesteruk 14y agoWe're working to get this fixed ASAP.
- mej10 14y agoDo these have Emacs key bindings? I primarily code in Ruby and Javascript, should I buy those individually or get IDEA and find plugins?
- piqufoh 14y agoYup - Emacs bindings included, it'll even remap ctrl-z for you.
- nileshk 14y agoIn the past, the deficiencies of their Emacs keybindings have made it difficult for me to switch (from Eclipse which gets this mostly right, and has the Emacs+ plugin if you need more Emacs features). But IDEA 12 made some big progress in this area: http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2012/03/more-emacs-for-the-favorite-ide/ http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2012/03/more-emacs-for-the-f... I've only used it briefly, but the only thing missing that bothered me was lack of "Quit" action (defaults to Ctrl-G in Emacs) which I use frequently, but they appear to be getting all the important things correct. I'm not sure whether these improvements have made it to their other tools besides IDEA 12.
- martinced 14y agoYes and even some plugins to make it even more emacsy, like a kill ring and a rip-off (although a pale one) of "ace-jump-mode" (itself inspired from a vi(m) feature). Sadly Emacs is just so much more than the sum of its keybindings and the kill ring. Honestly there isn't a single "text editor" that comes anywhere near close what one million of elisp code are doing. The only ones that comes close are the thousands of $$$ fancy Lisp editors which aren't for mere-mortals. So, yes, "IntelliJ the IDE" rocks and it can mimicks Emacs shortcuts but, no, "IntelliJ the text editor" doesn't come anywhere close to Emacs :-/ Just like Light Table shall never come anywhere close to what Emacs can do. Just like Eclipse won't either, etc. No IIRC there was at least one person interested in porting eclim (a client / server allowing to use vim as Eclipse's text editor) and emacs-eclim (same but for Emacs) to IntelliJ. It makes a lot of sense and I'm pretty sure it's going to be the ultimate IDE at one point: and IDE as powerful as IntelliJ but allowing to "plug in" your text editor of choice (vim, emacs, Sublime Text 2, etc.).
- skiabox 14y agoI am trying for an hour to buy anything but they have serious problems! :(
- dnesteruk 14y agoSorry about that! We're working to get things fixed very soon.
- drivingmenuts 14y agoThe Mayans took an obsidian axe to their e-commerce server early. The contract I'm on doesn't have an escape clause for apocalypses, so I'm gonna need that software soon.
- skiabox 14y agoDo we have any feedback for the problem from Jetbrains?
- rdemmer 14y ago@skiabox we are working on it. sorry for any inconvenience.
- hhariri 14y agoWe're on it. Trust us. We're on it.
- egeozcan 14y agoWe are refreshing. Trust us. Our fingers are on F5.
- moondowner 14y agoFingers on F5 are not really helping. It's like a small scale DDoS if everybody did that.
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- mpelzsherman 14y agoYou guys need to ditch element5 and switch to a payment processor that can scale.
- lowmagnet 14y agoWow, almost a week to the day after I upgraded to IDEA 12.
- blktiger 14y agoI've tried switching to Intellij from Eclipse a few times, but it's just too different and I don't feel like the UI is all that great. This is a great deal but I just don't see the justification to buy Intellij.
- recroad 14y agoAs someone whose lived in both environments, I can assure you that Intellij is far more intelligent in every single respect. I haven't done much RCP development so can't speak on that front, but in terms of JavaEE or web, there's no comparison.
- mayankk 14y agoI started trying out IntelliJ a month back after having used eclipse for over 8 yrs. in the past my migration was never successful because I never tried to solve the initial hiccups or give myself a fair chance at getting used to IntelliJ. But I can say, 3 days into giving IntelliJ that fair chance, I cannot even think of going back to eclipse despite our project using a lot of AspectJ where eclipse scores better. In fact, today almost my entire team has gone out and bought personal licenses based on all that they have been hearing about IntelliJ from me.
- jjcmontano 14y agoTotally worth the wait for it to go up again!
- wslh 14y agoI am not happy with the poor differentiation between personal (individual developers) and companies: owners of small companies can earn less than an individual developer, expecting to earn more in the future but with much more risk.
- epaga 14y agoThen buy a personal copy for yourself and use it at work - you just can't buy for your employees is all...
- Hoff 14y agoSmall LLCs comprised of one or two[1] folks do seem to fall into the commercial license bucket; a "corner case", though. Which means there's no need to rush to order today. [1] This based on the 50% control requirement listed in the existing JetBrains license.
- mjpa 14y ago@hhariri / @rdemmer - any partial refund for anyone who recently purchased something? :)
- matthuggins 14y agoUgh, I literally bought RubyMine a week ago for $69, and now it's only $17. Sucks for me for missing out on the savings, but it's a fantastic product and well worth the original price.
- gprasanth 14y agoWe're thrilled that you've come all the way here to buy our products! Thank you! However, we did not expect the load on our servers would be this high. We are working hard right now to fix the problem. Please be patient and come back in a couple of hours. There's still time... -The JetBrains Team Oh alright.
- matwood 14y agoPlease be patient and come back in a couple of hours. But the world might have ended in a couple of hours!!!
- bobsy 14y agoOne of those rare moments where I am trying to throw money at someone and no matter how hard I try they just won't take it...
- dnesteruk 14y agoYep, sorry about that guys and gals, we're working on getting this fixed ASAP.
- thisone 14y agoI was just able to check out. So things are coming back up!
- epaga 14y agoAll their server issues must mean they are dealing with unprecedented demand. It makes me wonder: When demand is THIS intense for a 75% off sale, you think it'd mean a more optimal "normal" price point would be at 25-50% off your current normal prices, wouldn't you?
- kevingadd 14y agoI expect some of the demand is due to the fact that JetBrains releases new major versions of their products 2 or more times a year (ReSharper for example), and conveniently bundle important bug fixes into those versions instead of fixing the bugs in previous releases. So anyone who's - for example - still using ReSharper 6 will probably leap at this opportunity to finally get fixes for critical bugs in the product. Normally you'd have to pay $100 or more to upgrade just for bug fixes; now it's a rather more reasonable $30 or so.
- epaga 14y ago"More reasonable" points exactly to what I'm talking about. If the demand for this offer is so intense their servers melt down for hours on end it seems this is pointing to a huge opportunity the rest of the year to reach all those who think 4x the current sales price (whether for the full version or the update) is "unreasonable". One data point would be myself: as a single developer, spending 100€ on AppCode never felt "reasonable" considering XCode was free. 25€ is an instabuy of course - so it seems to me the "sweet spot" is more around 50-60€ where they'd reach far more than twice as many customers than at 100€...
- kevinconroy 14y agoIt's easy to assume that a sale price is a better year-round price, but it doesn't always work that way. Yes, there's pent up demand for the 75% off price, but the people who are buying it are the people who didn't want to buy it at full price. JetBrains has been in business for a while and must have clearly sold a LOT of licenses at full price for them to be releasing new products/versions. Flash sales like this are used to maximum revenue. They earn full price most of the year and do flash sales to get everyone that doesn't want to pay full price to pay something. Coupons work the same way. If your price sensitive you'll spend the time to clip coupons and get the better deal. If you're less price sensitive, you won't "waste your time" with coupons and will pay full time. Sales and profits increase for the company.
- firefoxNX11 14y agoBeta releases are available for free. If you can bear the bugs.
- hhariri 14y agoMessage from JetBrain --------------------- We apologise for the issue with the e-shop. We're working on solve it and please do not worry, you'll get your chance to buy the products you like. Thanks for your patience. Hadi Hariri JetBrains s.r.o. Develop with Pleasure!
- garrettheaver 14y agoOut of curiosity, why such discrepancy between the price to US vs EU customers?
- conorgdaly 14y agoI just tweeted @JetBrains with the same question. 37 USD becomes 35 EURO(as opposed to ~25 EURO with more up to date currency convert). It's a pity because if I got USD equivalent pricing, I was planning on buying more of their products for stacks I just want to play around with(RubyMine, IntelliJ)
- garrettheaver 14y agoPretty much the same as. $50 converts to ~£31 or ~€38 rather than the €47 currently charged (all ex-VAT / Sales Tax). I was planning on buying a few different products but I just don't appreciate being charged more for an electronic product because of where I live, 75% sale or not. Now it might be that European card processing fees are higher than the US but certainly not €10 worth on a €38 transaction.
- andor 14y agoIf you buy IntelliJ, you can just install the Ruby plugin. The Python plugin makes IntelliJ equivalent to PyCharm, so I guess the same goes for Ruby.
- level09 14y agoRuby Mine for $ 17 ! not bad at all ! hope they extend the offer period though, as no one is able to access it at the moment.
- cgh 14y agoAgh, I just bought an Idea license less than a week ago!
- matthuggins 14y agoMe too, but for RubyMine. :/
- kozlovsky 14y agoyou can renew it beforehand with discount for one more year ;)
- sakopov 14y agoOH MY GOD! ReSharper for $50!!!! Take my money! This is seriously awesome. And based on how hard the site's getting hit, your sales team is having a pretty awesome day too :)
- skiabox 14y agowww.just-ping.com gives 100% packet loss from around the world pings to jetbrains.com
- dnesteruk 14y agoWe've been caught with unexpected demand. Please stay tuned while we work to resolve this. Sorry!
- grudolf 14y agoPayment processor works ok, but the Jetbrains site needed some F5 hammering before it let me through. Guess I'm prepared for the comets now...
- nileshk 14y agoI'm an Eclipse user who has always thought about switching to IDEA, but the poor Emacs keyboard shortcut support has made it difficult to adapt to. With IDEA 12, they've made some major progress in Emacs keyboard shortcut support ( http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2012/03/more-emacs-for-the-favorite-ide/ http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2012/03/more-emacs-for-the-f... ). It's still missing at least one minor thing that I'm used ("Quit" action, by default that is CTRL-G in Emacs), but I may be able to get used to that or find a workaround. At $50, I can't pass this up just in case I do end up switching to IDEA. I occasional use Python (and sometimes this involves Django). I wonder, does PyCharm have any extra features that make it worth getting in addition to IDEA? Or is IDEA good enough for this already?
- AhtiK 14y agoNot sure how they play this out in the future but for IDEA 12 vs latest PyCharm they first added the new python-related features to PyCharm and then to IDEA python plugin. The codebase seems to be the same but release cycles differ. Also some of the plugins are available only for PyCharm but this will hopefully change (for example, Lua plugin is only for PyCharm). As of today I haven't found a way to add new packages to virtualenvs in IDEA but they are easy to install in PyCharm.
- rmason 14y agoI am in the US but when I go to checkout the prices are listed in British pounds. Anyone else having the same problem?
- rdemmer 14y agoOn the product page before you hit buy, below the table with the various license options, you can change the country. Look for... "Purchases from COUNTRY are charged in CURRENCY. If you are not from COUNTRY, please select your country."
- rplnt 14y agoYou can change your country in the step before checkout. My question is.. can I lie? Because if I use the country I'm in I'll pay about $5 more.
- tesmar2 14y agoThe site seems to be back up and running now.
- jason_slack 14y agoI like their products but no C++ support prevents me from being a customer.
- quicksilver03 14y agoI wonder how much revenue they will lose to people who will just find it easier to pirate their products because they've essentially made them impossible to buy.
- panzerboy 14y agoAlmost there with PyCharm ... next is RubyMine and IDEA (and upgrade to AppCode).
- SonicSoul 14y agoreally loving attention to detail with the circular Mayan motif around the sale price! I'm definitely getting my own re-sharper license. Kind of wish they had a whole product suite special price. I'd probably get it just to have for possible future use.
- yoda_sl 14y agoReally a good deal... Upgrading to IntelliJ 12, and getting a license for AppCode at the same time. After many attempts, I was able to get through the checkout but even Element5 which is used for the checkout process is I think under load... Getting to the Thank you page after entering the CC information took a while but it finally went through... Glad that the Mayan came up with the end of the world! That made my day!
- bchen 14y agoThis is damn awesome. I was waiting exactly for this. Now I just hope that JRebel offers a similar deal.
- alexgaribay 14y agoThis deal is pretty awesome. I had trouble deciding on whether to get RubyMine instead of IntelliJ. I went ahead and got myself a copy IntelliJ because of all the language/IDE plugins. Great deal today!
- kaolinite 14y agoJust bought PyCharm and WebStorm - any idea when I'll get my download link? Really keen to start using these tonight.
- ryanguill 14y agoI think you can go ahead and download them, you'll get a license later on that you can then apply. Someone please correct me if Im wrong.
- 67726e 14y agoYeah, you can get a free 30 day trial of the "premium" IDEs, and you can enter in your license information at any point during the trial in the IDE itself.
- rdemmer 14y agoThis is correct and I believe the delivery of the license key can take from minutes up to 2 business days from ordering.
- 67726e 14y agoMy order just went through. It looks like the order processing is back up!
- quicksilver03 14y agoNow the situation is even worse: I've been able to get to the ordering page, only to be rejected by their payment provider (which is probably overloaded as well). Tried a second time to pay with PayPal, which accepts the transaction: however the confirmation page displays an error, saying to contact sales, and the form to contact sales ends up throwing up another error. Now my credit card payment is in a indeterminate state, while the PayPal payment got through but I wasn't given a license key and there does not seem to be a reliable way to get one. Luckily I still have my license for the previous IntelliJ version, it looks like I will use it for quite a while.
- pilif 14y agoThe license key delivery isn't instantaneous. I got my keys about 5 minutes after getting the payment confirmation.
- swalsh 14y ago5 minutes is good, it took an hour for my Resharper key. And that was a few weeks ago.
- moondowner 14y agoI'm waiting ~6 hours for my IDEA key, still no email.
- rdemmer 14y ago@quicksilver03 - keep me posted we will make sure everything works out. (robert)[dot](demmer)[at](jetbrains)[dot](com)
- quicksilver03 14y ago3 hours after ordering: * PayPal has debited my account, but no order confirmation from JetBrains and no license key * my credit card has been charged as well, I have an order confirmation from JetBrains but no license key * I have been able to submit a request to sales, but that was when I thought that only the PayPal order had gone through Robert, in the end I'll tell sales (if and when they get back to me) that IntelliJ IDEA is such a good product that you can keep both payments and give me one upgrade license.
- _trigs 14y agoReally would like to buy this, I was wondering if someone could answers a few questions if they've used the products. I'd buy RubyMine, PHPStorm, and AppCode. Do RubyMine and PHPStorm have the same functionality as WebStorm?
- ryanguill 14y agoSo is IntelliJ IDEA just as good for python development as pycharm and then some? or does pycharm have more or better "python" features because its specialized?
- Flow 14y agoRemember that IntelliJ have plugins that makes it have the same features as Webstorm, Phpstorm, rubymine and Pycharm, except for one feature: "Open Directory". If you get IntelliJ you must create a project in order to edit the files in a directory. :-/
- gecko 14y agoIs it genuinely identical? E.g., I get Python refactoring and Django/Mako/Jinja template support directly in IntelliJ?
- marekmroz 14y agoThis is something that I was also confused about. Is it exactly the same, or almost the same, and if it is not, then what are the tradeoffs? After a bit of googling I found this on PyCharm's confluence site: http://confluence.jetbrains.net/display/PYH/PyCharm+vs.+IntelliJ+IDEA+Python+plugin+FAQ http://confluence.jetbrains.net/display/PYH/PyCharm+vs.+Inte... I decided to just get PyCharm, considering that I will not need Jython intergration, interface is less cluttered, and IntelliJ Python plugin does not handle Flask projects natively, whereas PyCharm does. One other thing to consider is that If I don't need most of IntelliJ's features, paying $100 a year for updates is a bit wasteful if all that I need is covered by a $59 PyCharm renewal. edit: typos
- Flow 14y agoI've not tried it. Best would be if you downloaded both trials of PyCharm and IntelliJ and tried it out yourself.
- Flow 14y agoThe "Open Directory" feature made me get WebStorm in addition to IntelliJ. If you want that feature in IntelliJ, please vote for: http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-75833 http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-75833
- joeblau 14y agoJust upgraded yesterday. DOH!
- jimbodin 14y agoIs the purchase confirmation email working?
- razielek 14y agoCan anyone tell something about developing professional Android projects? Are there any downsides when you are used to Eclipse? Does Intellij support Android development in similar advanced state as latest ADT for Eclipse?
- eddieroger 14y agoI downloaded the demo of IntelliJ IDEA with the intention of playing with Android this morning. Setup was a lot more difficult than I expected, in that I had to do a lot of configuration before it would work, but it wouldn't outright error. So, creating a new project before adding the JDK and Android SDK resulted in an empty src and gen directory, but of course, no error. Once I fixed that up and opened an existing Eclipse project, it seemed OK, but not enough to wow me senseless. The GUI editor didn't seem to understand my layouts, so I was presented with the XML layout instead. This bummed me out since I wanted to see their GUI editor. So far, not that impressed over Eclipse, but we'll see. I'm going to keep monkeying with it for the rest of the day.
- jchampem 14y agoI ordered Rubymine something like an hour ago, and no email from them :/
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- jeffheon 14y agoShut-up and take my money!
- gourneau 14y agoI am trying to buy PyCharm but the price is still $99 in the JetBrains shopping cart. Is anyone else seeing that? edit: Sale prices are back. edit2: Purchases complete still working, still awaiting license code.
- heliostatic 14y agoSame with RubyMine.
- nso 14y agoYeah, same for me with dotCover and dotTrace. Edit: Looks like they fixed it now. Edit 2: Whops, spoke to soon. The payment provider still fails.
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- sergiotapia 14y agoTrying to buy RubyMine and I'm getting the normal $69 price. Bummer. Is the sale over?
- thebluesky 14y agoThey briefly displayed non-discounted prices shortly after they got the site functioning again, but then corrected it.
- rdemmer 14y agoThe sale is not over! The shop is being updated and for a short time was showing the full prices. Please try again and don't purchase until you see the discounted amount. Should be working now.
- panzerboy 14y agoMe too, just managed to buy it. Likewise, the license code is not yet here.
- JennyZ 14y agoIt seems like it's up again, but it's now not applying the discount? (Trying to buy Resharper c# version). The discount is there until you add it to your cart. Edit: it seems fixed now!
- specialist 14y agoWork supplies IntelliJ. But I figured I'd upgrade my personal license (v9) "just in case". Plus add AppCode and WebStorm, just to try them out. Alas, when I got to checkout, the discounted prices are not reflected in my cart.
- rdemmer 14y agoThe shop is being updated and for a short time was showing the full prices. Please try again and don't purchase until you see the discounted amount. Should be working now.
- AhtiK 14y agoThe prices for EU seem to be wrong after adding to the cart. $25 PyCharm becomes 94.05 EUR. $50 IDEA becomes 189.05 EUR.
- rdemmer 14y agoSorry, shop was being updated. Should be working now.
- vinayakB 14y agoSame for me , it shows 99$ in the cart.
- rdemmer 14y agoShould be fixed now. Sorry for the problem.
- rman666 14y agoI'm looking at getting RubyMine as soon as the site allows. Question: If I have both Windows and Mac, do I need to buy two licenses? Anyone know?
- marekmroz 14y agoYou only need one license (as long as only one instance of the ide is running).
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- jrs235 14y agoHas anyone else paid but not gotten their license info email? It's been several hours and I still haven't gotten my license info. Update: Thank you for the replies. Glad to know I didn't accidentally mistype my email twice. I agree, their license server might be hiccupping now that they got the order system fixed. Update 2: Still haven't recieved an email. Just logged into my bank account (I used my debit card) and I don't see any holds or anything. I'm beginning to wonder if the transaction actually went through. In the order process there's the page that said if it takes longer than 30 seconds click the link below to continue. I had to click the link and the following page had an order or reference number (which I didn't bother to write down because I assume these things go through fine... I've never had a problem before).
- tburch 14y agoSame here. One was an upgrade and the other was a new license.
- noarchy 14y agoStill waiting for mine, but given the issues they've had today, I won't be surprised if it takes hours to receive the license info in my inbox. I was actually able to order with no problems, at least.
- MoOmer 14y agoDo they send out an email confirmation of payment? I haven't received any emails, but also don't want to accidentally process two orders.
- skiabox 14y agoI managed to pay for IntelliJ IDEA but I've got no emails for about one hour and a half!
- k_sze 14y agoI placed my order some 7 hours ago, but I still haven't received a confirmation e-mail. Are the orders being vetted manually? That would be a tough bottleneck to eliminate - humans don't scale like computers. :P
- halostatue 14y agoSame here. I got the order number (which, like an idiot, I didn't write down), but I don't have any confirmation of purchase from DR element5. :/ If, in the end, it doesn't go through, I'm OK with that too.
- dotBen 14y agoSame here too
- lessnonymous 14y agoI've really gotten into Sublime after being 100% text-editor for perl, HTML, javascript and PHP for years and years. Can anyone tell me why I should switch to this IDE? What am I missing out on? Many of the 'smarts' seem dependent on writing code in a particular way (eg, using PHPdoc) or following their file naming conventions. I'm eager to try anything that's better. But I'm not getting it.
- kysol 14y agoBefore I read about the server issues, I was about to say that I found it quite amusing that for a "Doomsday Sale" the receipt email states: The publisher of "PRODUCT" has been notified and is responsible for delivering this product. JetBrains s.r.o will deliver the product within 48 hours. End of the world, if the planes fall from the sky, electricity goes out and the sun starts to burn us up slowly, I don't care if I can't use it, if they can still get me the products within 48 hours, kudos to them :D
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- subwiz 14y agoWaiting for my IntelliJ license. I would rather prefer immediate receipt of license on payment.
- pasbesoin 14y agoSo, I can't pass up this price. (I've been meaning to try you, and this pushes me over the edge.) However, your Order Details page, prompting for name, address and other contact info, and payment type (but not account details), is coming across via HTTP rather than HTTPS [1]. I would REALLY prefer that to be HTTPS. [1] http://www.jetbrains.com/eshop/checkout/displaySummary.do http://www.jetbrains.com/eshop/checkout/displaySummary.do P.S. I "forced" the Shopping Cart page to HTTPS by editing the address bar. I can then proceed; however, the pages still contain some elements delivered via HTTP. Upon reaching element5 to process my payment, I find that its data collection page (the first page I reach, and which is asking for my credit card information), is delivered via HTTPS but also has some elements delivered via HTTP -- that is, the HTTPS connection is "broken". You really should have a look at revising and improving your payment processing. P.P.S. Ok, on that first element5 page, I chose the link to "Change Payment". The next page I received was fully HTTPS, and selecting the credit card option, I'm back to a page prompting for CC details, but this time it's fully HTTPS. If anyone wonders why I'm writing this here ("HN isn't a bug tracker"), the OP has identified themselves as being with JetBrains, and I'd really like to see this fixed -- and thanks for the sale price, if I can help their conversion rate a bit by making the purchase flow look a bit less... "troubling".
- rdemmer 14y ago----- Message From JetBrains Update from payment processor: all pending orders are expected to be confirmed/processed by EOD today (CET) ~ in approx. 6-7 hours. After confirming orders, JetBrains will be handling license delivery that could take up to 48 hours but we'll be working as fast as we can. Thank you for your patience and understanding. For official information stay tuned to: https://twitter.com/jetbrains/ https://twitter.com/jetbrains/ Best Regards - Robert Demmer
- frederico 14y agoThank you Robert!! We are anxiously awaiting licences! What a wonderful discount, so excited to have picked up my copies!!
- davotoula 14y agoThe sale is officially over but the new price is $50 which is still a steal!
- hcd 14y agoThe sale is over, and now a personal licence is even cheaper ? (50$)?
- JohnBooty 14y agoIs anybody else still waiting for their license keys? I reached the confirmation screen (which I saved, hooray) but I've yet to see an email, charge on my credit card, or receive anything else. My order was 20+ hours ago.