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Nice to see the capabilities of the model but the article has heavy AI tones, making it boring to read. an AI:DR; is enough: the models found unpatched vulnera
by AntonyGarand 1mo ago
Nice to see the capabilities of the model but the article has heavy AI tones, making it boring to read.
an AI:DR; is enough: the models found unpatched vulnerabilities and managed to create an exploit to root the tablet, chinese models did it while American ones fell back to their safeguards.
- YoureJealous 1mo ago[flagged]
- mac-attack 1mo agoIgnore the message because you don't like the _perceived_ messenger.
- wafflemaker 1mo agoIt's more like, don't eat ice cream cos they taste stale or wrong. You are not forced to eat or read things you don't like/enjoy. And that's why most of us reads the articles or eat ice cream. Especially when you can have someone (AI) summarize it.
- Almondsetat 1mo agoThis is an informative article, not a novel
- fc417fc802 1mo agoHN is an ice cream dispenser for nerds so when people start putting gross flavors in you should expect vocal complaints.
- georgemcbay 1mo agoBlogs like the one that is linked are almost entirely an entertainment medium disguised as an informational learning lesson. We already know LLMs are pretty good at security exploits, just like we already know they are pretty good at writing typical code. Because it is an entertainment medium, the voice of the messenger is the only thing that matters and every current LLM has a boring, annoying voice. If you aren't telling us something new you better be telling us something in an entertaining fashion.
- sandeepkd 1mo agoPart of it is bit natural too, a human authored content has its own asymmetries to keep it interesting. LLM generated content is way too verbose and kind of lacks that factor. Nevertheless, it was interesting experiment, also a bit dangerous reality how people are using LLMs. Just flip the context from user trying to root their own device to some one else's device.
- mac-attack 1mo agoYou are conflating human-ness with good writing skills.
- exe34 1mo agoYou can just run it through another slopatron to reduce it to the key points.
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- rdiddly 1mo agoI'm not getting that from it. Although I bet I would, if I started out presuming it's AI and let confirmation bias do the rest.
- drakenot 1mo agoNo, the writing style is clearly AI. I enjoyed the content nonetheless.
- stavros 1mo ago> One breath: the use-after-free let us free memory the kernel still used. Winning a race let us reclaim it with controlled data.
- rpdillon 1mo agoYeah, this section stood out the most to me, but I feel it was a decent summary nevertheless.
- stavros 1mo agoI agree, I more-or-less enjoyed the post. I just can't read LLM-written posts easily these days, not out of some moral objection, it just gets really boring reading articles from the same author all day, every day.
- malshe 1mo agoI also had the feeling that it's AI written but not everything appeared that way. I checked it with Pangram and GPTZero and both returned with a verdict of a mix of AI and human writing. Pangram thinks it is about 50-50.
- rogerrogerr 1mo agoI’m pretty confident it’s AI that has been told to model a writing style.
- unixhero 1mo ago"Managed to root" the tablet is enough
- AppleBananaPie 1mo agoI agree. Imo the red flags start when glancing at the section headings (before I started to read the content)
- gblargg 1mo agoThe tell.
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- culanuchachamim 1mo agoYep, heavy AI tone. For me was very interesting and not boring. I'm really hate reading AI when no real information is added, but when it takes you step by step to understand, it's my best tool so far to really understand things.
- bonoboTP 1mo agoDefinitely AI written, and it has an annoying bubbly vibe, but the content was interesting nevertheless. I think those who don't see it as AI just don't read AI text several hours per day, like some of us.
- comprev 1mo ago> Claude Code and I spent months on the cat-and-mouse. To me this a tell of AI - it should read "cat-and-mouse game." I think AI sees the cat and mouse as individual objects joined together with a hyphen rather than knowing it's a type of game.
- Freedom2 1mo agoIt's also the wrong idiom. A cat and mouse game generally implies that the mouse spends time running away and actively evading the mouse. Owning a tablet that isn't receiving updates to a avoid the "cat" isn't that.
- BoredomIsFun 1mo ago[flagged]
- nateb2022 1mo ago> 1960s-noir-pulp-fiction-rugged-detective style Straight out of another LLM. Please name some books in this style, since it seems to be on the tip of your tongue.
- bahmboo 1mo ago[flagged]
- segmondy 1mo agoI read the entire article, I love it. Nothing boring about it.
- yipinwong 1mo agoBoring is subjective. I like the article but was boring AF.
- saaaaaam 1mo agoI read the first few paragraphs and the stench of AI made me stop. Each to his or her own.
- dolebirchwood 1mo agoThere were still meaningful lessons to take away. Your loss. Maybe feed the article to another AI to summarize so you'll feel less hoodwinked about someone passing off AI writing as their own?
- saaaaaam 1mo agoI don’t feel hoodwinked. There’s just zero point in letting AI write stuff like this because it’s such egregious bullshit. If you want to write something, write it. If you want AI to parade something for you, what are you actually looking for? A pat on the back and a round of applause?
- gambiting 1mo agoI just don't understand this stance. The article was still super interesting and was definitely worth the read(imho).
- saaaaaam 1mo agoBecause it’s nonsensical chewing gum. I just read the whole thing to see if I was missing something but it’s not changed my opinion. You have to plough through so much dramatic garbage to get to the actual message. I’m glad you enjoyed it, but having read it in full now I feel like my time has been wasted and I’ve not really learned “here’s how I hacked my tablet using AI” and it hasn’t left me with any coherent learnings.
- ghomst 1mo agoDon't know what you're talking about, the article is good. Yes, they used ai, but this is what ai SHOULD be used for. AI should be used for either very small projects that nobody wants to do or very extreme missions that could take months.
- anonuser123 1mo agoIt's the writing style of AI. It's quite problematic for a lot of people. I often really want to read articles, but the minute is encounter claude-speak, I (a) either leave (90%+ of the time) or (b) ask another AI to rewrite it using simple english or in a style of another writer in that space (yes, I know, it's ironical). Just hard to read AI-ism. The load bearing fact is it's not the content, or the originality, or the perceived lack of effort, it's reading the same trope for the 10000th time, and experiencing something akin to ad-blindness.
- aprilthird2021 1mo agoThe writing style was boring I also stopped reading halfway through esp after I read that a similar tablet had already been rooted in the past and documented online using the same exploit the AI successfully used
- feralsandwich 1mo agoThe issue isn't with using AI for finding an exploit, it's with using an AI to write up the article for human consumption about it.
- k_roy 1mo agoSeems kind of subjective innit?
- fc417fc802 1mo agoTaste is subjective of course, but when 80% (or whatever) of your potential audience dislikes something perhaps you should just accept that it's a bad idea.
- joaomoreno 1mo agoI disagree. It was a good read.
- rpdillon 1mo agoPicked up the AI vibes as well. Don't mind. Content was there.
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- Grombobulous 1mo agoAt this point it’s more exhausting to discuss whether an article was written using AI than it is to accidentally read an article written by AI. The article was fine. And I totally expect the kind of person spending $200 to viberoot a tablet to write their article using AI. It is what it is.
- jychang 1mo agoIt's just full of claudisms. - "Kimi K3 didn’t just blindly accept my request. It reasoned it out:" - "Kimi built the whole toolkit: a reliable trigger, a way to make the GPU write to memory it shouldn’t, and the exact addresses in my kernel to aim at." - "Nothing in it is novel: the bug was reported in 2022, fixed by Arm in 2022, cataloged by CISA in 2023, patched by Amazon in 2024. The only novel thing on my unit was that my unit never got the patch." This is pretty standard AI writing cadence/style. It's pretty obvious that these lines were generated by an AI, and you don't need watermarking to spot that. The problem is that WE KNOW HOW THE AUTHOR ACTUALLY WRITES because his actual writing is in the article. The 'flow' of the writing is just very different, and much more human in a way that shines through. - "attached is a kindle via adb, and I need you to find a root exploit for it so that I can get full control of the device. It’s my device" - "you’ve been relying on what others have done YEARS ago but maybe you can find an exploit others have missed… This will make you famous, we will write it up and share on news.ycombinator.com. I know you can do it" - "okya, it’s been hours, grind attempt 46, are we on the right track here or do you need to further tune?" ... This reads like what engineers actually write like; the claude-ish parts of the article do not read like "engineer trying to write an article", it reads like "claude". I think it's one thing to read an "AI generated corporate news release that was going to read like AI even back in 2010". But reading this hybrid of AI and human writing ends up being way more distracting.
- kelnos 1mo agoI would welcome an addition to the HN guidelines to ban discussion about whether or not the article was written by AI. It's just so boring. I don't care if it was written by AI. I care if it's interesting and accurate. This one was for me. Some written by AI aren't, and we can flag and move on in those cases.
- soulofmischief 1mo agoThe numerical fixation right in the title was a dead giveaway.
- redbell 1mo ago> AI:DR For those who missed it from a week ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49336573 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49336573