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SpaceXAI is the only frontier model company that had its own compute/date centres and soon chip making factory, I think they will pull ahead with cheaper tokens
by small_model 2mo ago
SpaceXAI is the only frontier model company that had its own compute/date centres and soon chip making factory, I think they will pull ahead with cheaper tokens similar intelligence and better harness/tools. Grok build is 2-5x faster than Claude Code in my opinion.
- bdangubic 2mo ago[flagged]
- hackyhacky 2mo ago[flagged]
- UltraSane 2mo agoExcept EUV lithography is the most complicated industrial process that exists and they won't have usable yields for many years if ever. I don't think Musk actually expects these fans to ever actually make sense they just let him hype and distract.
- krakrum 2mo agoLight generation is the most complicated part and Elon plans on doing Free Electron Laser (FEL) which is not as complicated as self contained tin based solution that ASML uses now
- UltraSane 2mo agoWhy do you give Elon any credibility? FEL is not proven at all and is much much riskier than using existing EUV machines. Plus if it breaks all your machines are down until you fix it.
- jamesrcole 2mo ago[flagged]
- UltraSane 2mo agoMusk has had very little to do with the actual Success of Tesla and SpaceX and a LOT to do with the recent failures of Tesla, with his constant lies about FSD and the epic failure of the Cybertruck. Tesla hasn't had a new CAR model since 2020! I'm so tired of people mindlessly assuming past "success" is a guarantee of future success in completely different industries and technology. This just proves how little they actually understand how anything works.
- jamesrcole 2mo agoYou literally don’t know what you’re talking about. If you’d read any biography of him you’d know how utterly wrong your claims are.
- UltraSane 2mo agoYou really are a fanboy, huh. How do you handle all the lies Musk told while he was in charge of DOGE and all the damage he did? The richest man in the world destroying the aid organization that helps the absolute poorest for no reason at all is NOT a good look. In fact between Musk destroying USAID, his enthusiastic firing at Twitter and Tesla combined with his near complete lack of charity donations makes him one of the most selfish and sadistic men in the world.
- jamesrcole 2mo agoI see you didn’t pay attention to what I did and did not say in my original comment. I’ve read a biography of him and When The Heavens Went On Sale, which covers SpaceX [Edit: I'd remembered the book incorrectly. I have read that book, but it doesn't cover SpaceX. The books that I'd read that cover SpaceX are The Space Barons: Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, and The Quest To Colonize The Cosmos, by Christian Davenport, and Liftoff: Elon Musk and the Desperate Early Days That Launched SpaceX, by Eric Berger]. What you’re claiming about him is completely wrong and completely ignorant. I know you haven’t actually read anything substantial about him, because if you had you’d be fully aware of how stupid the claims you are making are.
- zzzoom 2mo agoWow, if only the Chinese knew that! So easy!
- ls612 2mo agoThey’ve already contracted with Intel to use A14 for the initial buildout so that solves the process tech problem.
- isodev 2mo agoBut can you trust any number or metric coming out of SpaceX given everything? Also you mean their own compute like the illegal data centre turbines? https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/15/elon-musk-xai-datacenter-memphis https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/15/elon-musk...
- hotstickyballs 2mo agoBecause it works and they don’t charge a lot for it
- feifan 2mo agobeing a public company forces a lot of trust and transparency bc otherwise shareholders will sue you into oblivion
- amarka 2mo agoTrue story, for example take Tesla's promise of self driving which was delivered back in 2015.
- krakrum 2mo ago[flagged]
- LastTrain 2mo agoBut that isn’t what they promised.
- senordevnyc 2mo agoThere’s some number of supposedly unsupervised Teslas actually operating in Austin, but what I’ve seen suggests it’s more like a dozen. And extreme skepticism is warranted that they’re actually fully unsupervised, given Tesla’s repeated lies about this. They’re likely remotely monitored and operated.
- ipython 2mo ago
- 9cb14c1ec0 2mo ago> I think they will pull ahead with cheaper tokens similar intelligence They obviously have a huge token cost advantage of the AI labs they are renting compute to, at least for now while they can charge current crazy rates for GPU compute.
- paxys 2mo agoOpenAI is almost there, and Anthropic is pretty close behind. In the next year or two all major AI companies will be vertically integrated to a good degree.
- alfalfasprout 2mo agoNeither of them are "almost there"...
- pzo 2mo ago>> I think they will pull ahead with cheaper tokens similar intelligence they just increased cache read from 0.30 to 0.50 - this has the biggest impact on agentic coding. Elon companies have the most expensive everything: xAI sub: $30 when other starts at $20, pro like sub for $300 where other charge $200. Expensive electric cars, powerwalls, solar roofs when competetive products/better are cheaper.
- heaney-555 2mo ago>Elon companies have the most expensive everything The Model 3 and Model Y became the highest selling EVs of all time because they were the first below $50K to have long-range and be worth buying. Until a few years ago, every other sub-$50K EV absolutely sucked.
- pzo 2mo agohighest selling is not same as cheap - apple also have the highest selling iphones among smartphones and they are still pretty much the most expensive (and usually not the best either these days).
- kibwen 2mo ago> The Model 3 and Model Y became the highest selling EVs of all time because they were the first below $50K to have long-range and be worth buying. And then Musk totally abandoned Tesla's original brilliant game plan of using the luxury models to find actual low-cost models (which $50K is not), and completely ceded the future EV market to Chinese companies that understand how to make a better car than Tesla for less money. BYD sells more cars than Tesla.
- heaney-555 2mo ago>to find actual low-cost models (which $50K is not) Model 3 starts at $37K, and Model Y at $40K. They are #1 and #2 best-selling EVs of all time! So clearly they are affordable. >BYD sells more cars than Tesla. Sure, but only by 20%, and only because it also sells low-cost EVs that have less range than anything Tesla sells. If you exclude BYD EVs with lower range than any Tesla, Tesla outsells BYD by 50%. Even if you don't, second place (which Tesla still holds) is really not "completely ceded"!
- kibwen 2mo ago> and soon chip making factory To say that I somewhat doubt this would be an understatement.
- asadotzler 2mo ago>SpaceXAI is the only frontier model company that had its own compute/date centres and soon chip making factory, Google would like a word. Also, Microsoft.
- unified101 2mo agoSorry, what model of microsoft? They're dead without their gpt deal.