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Show HN: iPhone app takes simultaneous images from 2 lenses, fuses into 1 photo
- guruthechosen 2mo agonice one!
- guruthechosen 2mo agothis seems to be legit
- eigenspace 2mo agoVery cool stuff, I've long thought there must be some fancy ways to get extra information for better image resolution by taking advantage of the other cameras. That said, I must also say that most of the side-by-side comparison photos shown here are somewhat impressive, and in some cases, the photosynthesis one just looks worse to my untrained eye. _______________ I'll choose to take this as evidence of the fact that you're tacking a very difficult problem, and you're also being honest in your comparisons and not cherry-picking too aggressively.
- dole 2mo agoSome of the photosynthesis zoom-ins have overlays take a bit longer to load at higher resolution.
- sajomes 2mo agoAs dole alluded to below, I have been going back and forth in balancing the quality of the example pictures with the data load. I've pushed an update to the site now that weighs much more towards quality for this exact reason! But you're right, I don't want to hide the fact that not all results are perfect.
- hnthrowawayacct 2mo agovery cool app, a few questions: why does the color "temp" of the image change between traditional iphone photography vs your app? it appears to both warm and cool the images. Also why is the contrast decreased, specifically in the library/book store example?
- trashcan2137 2mo agosubscription camera app seems like peak comedy to me
- furyofantares 2mo agoDefinitely not peak, my kid asked for a Rubik's Cube solver app which turned out to be subscription based, then wanted to tune her Ukelele with an app which turned out to be subscription based.
- dxdm 2mo agoGotta keep up with pitch inflation! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concert_pitch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concert_pitch
- ChrisMarshallNY 2mo agoThat's what makes me sad about the current Tetris game, on iOS. One of my favorite games ever, and I'd gladly pay for an ad-free version, but they don't have it. I assume there's much more money to be made with ads, over subscriptions.
- bookofjoe 2mo agoA penetrating observation that feels true. Too bad.
- furyofantares 2mo agoOh, the Rubik's Cube app has both actually - the subscription gets rid of the ads you have to watch to get more solves.
- cloudfudge 2mo agoI think there's money to be made with both, but there's more money to be made by not maintaining two separate models, so ads win.
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- swah 2mo agoIf it works, Apple copies it soon enough...
- mandeepj 2mo agoThey might acquire it and have done it in the past. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/06/apple-buys-iphone-camera-app-snappycam-and-gets-australian-algorithms-whiz https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jan/06/apple-buy...
- woadwarrior01 2mo agoThere's nothing to copy. Apple's iOS Camera app already uses multi-camera image fusion in many cases. This app builds on the Multi-Camera AVCapture feature that Apple opened up in iOS 13. https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2019/249/ https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2019/249/
- copperx 2mo agoSo what's the value add here?
- woadwarrior01 2mo agoIIUC, it's the ability to export layered PSD files with images from multiple sensors.
- CharlesW 2mo agoApple has done this (multi-camera/spatial fusion) since 2016, in addition to multi-frame/temporal fusion. The OS decides whether these techniques are worthwhile for any given shot based on context. https://developer.apple.com/documentation/avfoundation/avcapturephotosettings/isautovirtualdevicefusionenabled https://developer.apple.com/documentation/avfoundation/avcap...
- iamcoder18 2mo agoAnything like this for Android or Pixels?
- column 2mo agoI guess I will break the general hypocrisy and be the one to say this can be replicated with AI. Fable almost one-shotted it. The devil is in the details. I ended up tinkering quite a bit because Samsung's software decides for you wether to use the real 3x camera or do a digital zoom (which defeats the purpose). Long story short I got a prototype working, but only when shooting outdoor with good day light. No I will not share it or publish it. The result was terrible for a close up portrait. It works beautifully for outdoor shots of plants/trees. Here is the catch : when you share your detailed shot by WhatsApp (for example), it gets compressed and you lose those precious details. A very cool project nonetheless.
- bigwheels 2mo agoThat demo looks like Minority Report level enhancement. Amazing if it really works, but I'll be damned if I'm paying for a SaaS camera app.
- anigbrowl 2mo agoNeat work, but the free tier lets you export 3 images a month and the alternative is a subscription? No thanks.
- sajomes 2mo agoThank you! I'm quite a new dev so honestly I don't know where to pitch the free tier, and I'm not above changing it. Do you have any suggestions for the free tier?
- beachy 2mo agoMake it permissive enough that 80% of potential users don't need to pay for subscription. 20% of a heck of a lot of people is still a lot.
- bdangubic 2mo agodo not do this please. if you have a good product, people will pay for it. if you don’t, you don’t. don’t optimize for free-loaders
- iAMkenough 2mo agocorrect. never optimize your product, just wait to see if it's a success or not.
- PaulHoule 2mo agoLeft side and the right side look the same to me except some subtle differences in the color of shadows…. And another waitlist? Nein Danke.
- alansaber 2mo agoIsn't quite a lot of modern smartphone photography post-processing? Yes camera SAAS is extremely funny but I can kinda see it maybe
- gepeake 2mo agoThis was actually a purported feature of the Pixel 3 camera. Google said it would be constantly taking photos and the different information captured as your hand moved slightly could be used to create higher information density photos. It didn't work very well at that point but the idea was cool!
- ipsum2 2mo agoThat's not what's being described here. It's just combining the telephoto and wide angle photos.
- gepeake 2mo agoNot physically the same but same concept: combining multiple images from slightly different angles to increase information density.
- sajomes 2mo agoI believe that's a similar idea to Apple's Deep Fusion which also takes multiple frames from the same lens then intelligently combines them for higher detail. As ipsum2 said below, that's different to Photosynthesis, which captures from different lenses simultaneously.
- EGreg 2mo agoNot just the app idea … but the WEBSITE — is VERY WELL DONE. I immediately signed up. (And offered to help bring users to this thing.)
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- sajomes 2mo agoThank you very much, that's really appreciated! Just added all the new sign-ups to the TestFlight, looking forward to hearing what you all think.
- lattalayta 2mo agoSimilar idea to the discontinued Light L16 camera https://petapixel.com/2017/12/08/review-light-l16-brilliant-braindead/ https://petapixel.com/2017/12/08/review-light-l16-brilliant-...
- sajomes 2mo agoThat looks insane, definitely a trypophobia trigger!
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- boaztheostrich 2mo agoWhat API are you using if you don’t mind me asking? That seems super cool! You could almost strap an iPhone to the back of your phone and see yourself for recordings.
- megraf 2mo agoApple’s MultipeerConnectivity framework -- phones discover and talk over local wifi / bluetooth via MCSession, MCNearbyServiceAdvertiser, and MCNearbyServiceBrowser in PeerSessionManager.
- gregoriol 2mo agoApple has deprecated all of that now
- megraf 2mo agoYou're right - I have to move them to Network Framework when I have time :)
- woadwarrior01 2mo agoWhen you get around to doing that, you might find the Github repo and its accompanying medium article useful. https://github.com/0Itsuki0/SwiftUI_P2PWithNetwork https://github.com/0Itsuki0/SwiftUI_P2PWithNetwork
- gregoriol 2mo agoNice! I was really missing working examples when I replaced an MPC by the lower-level Network, not an easy task, but it provides huge improvements
- joe-dakroub 2mo agoI like the idea of this app and the website is well done. Subscription isn't for me, but for folks who take a lot of photos and need this sort of thing, I can see it. Free tier could offer a few more photos per month.
- acomjean 2mo agoIt’s weird, because the center of the image will be more detailed, so how are they dealing with the “grid of pixels” that is on the display. Are they doubling up the wide angle. “Easy-to-understand framing The brackets over the viewfinder indicate the area covered by the more detailed lens. Frame your subject inside them to capture the best detail.“ Reminds me of the old 3d cameras that took two photos at once through 2 lenses (on film) https://www.ebay.com/itm/206409326865?chn=ps&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1PMJaVRLFSOqpYg_4IQyTBg31&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-173151-913341-5&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=206409326865&targetid=2451667593817&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=9002000&poi=&campaignid=23920418628&mkgroupid=201082675087&rlsatarget=pla-2451667593817&abcId=9408285&merchantid=119039024&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23920418628&gbraid=0AAAAAD_QDh_cWkdwqcOGnJH0fc3iMP3iS&gclid=Cj0KCQjwkOvTBhDgARIsAKUNyRtSt-NBo-VdsMbLuzUXph3DTFDoEE-osBKlHKZe1-P4U-VxxKftF5MaAsgfEALw_wcB https://www.ebay.com/itm/206409326865?chn=ps&_trkparms=ispr%...
- sajomes 2mo agoI'm scaling the wider 'outer' image using Core Graphics 'CGInterpolationQuality' to avoid blocky pixellation, then feathering the seam between the two lens outputs so the transition isn't jarring. I didn't know about those Nishika stereo cameras, that looks incredible!
- roflmaostc 2mo agoThe principle is similar to foveated imaging [1]. Recently, Samsung introduced the ISOCELL platform which allows to select the area which will be recorded at higher resolution compared to other regions. There can be all sorts of different applications build around such as extracting higher resolution of text regions, etc [2]. Of course, the lens needs to support this resolution but I think that will be default in the mid-term future. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foveated_imaging https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foveated_imaging [2]: https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3799902.3811218 https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3799902.3811218
- cantalopes 2mo agoI am co fused, 50% of photos look better in standard zoom and 50% of them look better woth photosynthesis. This is like an anti campaign for the app hinting "in the end it doesn't really matter"
- sajomes 2mo agoI think this may be due to an issue I've had with loading the full res zoom images on the website, I've been going back and forth trying to balance the loading times and stress on the browser with clarity of the images. Working on a new idea now, so hopefully it'll give better demonstrations soon.
- zellyn 2mo agoAnyone know if they’re using the native camera resolution for the zoomed part or doing sensor fusion to get better quality than either alone?
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- sajomes 2mo agoIt's back now!
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- BugsJustFindMe 2mo agoFYI you're serving multi-megabyte images on your landing page that could effectively be thumbnails.
- Noaidi 2mo agoIs it just me or do the original photos look better overall?
- 650REDHAIR 2mo agoWhy do i need a subscription for a camera app?
- charcircuit 2mo agoIf a user gets value from an app month after month it makes sense for the user to pay for the value month after month.
- cush 2mo agoBy that logic they should charge per photo
- charcircuit 2mo agoThat's what film cameras did once upon a time and the business model worked then.
- account42 2mo agoNo they didn't. In general the camera manufacturer is not the one you paid for film stock.
- alistairSH 2mo agoBy that logic, I should be paying Audi and Mazda a subscription for finding utility in the cars that sit in my driveway. And Nike for the shoes on my feet.
- whynotmaybe 2mo agoYou can rent a car without buying it
- andai 2mo agoFrom what I heard they're selling them at a loss and making it back by selling your data.
- jrflo 2mo agoTo be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple isn't already doing this and just doesn't say so explicitly. There is a crazy amount of image processing going on behind the scenes in each smartphone photo. Would be interesting to compare a photo taken with the native camera app and photosynthesis to compare. I'm assuming your demo images on your site are the raw and processed images from your app that don't go through Apple's "secret sauce" processing pipeline.
- selectodude 2mo agoI think this is just Deep Fusion.
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- walrus01 2mo agoPhones have been doing this for a LONG time, if you had a oneplus 7 pro (released may 2019) and took it into an extremely dark area, like where your eyes can't see anything at all, and take a 'night mode' photo, it asks you to hold it steady for about 4-5 seconds and is clearly taking a series of photos with long exposure time. Then it stacks them and uses data from the sensor of hand movement jitter to deblur. The result when done outdoors (like, standing in a dark forest at midnight) will be a photo where you can actually see what's around you, and details show up as if it was a brightly full moon lit night.
- somehnguy 2mo agoI think it's interesting that the same functionality appeared on iPhone in 2019 as well. Google tells me it was the iPhone 11 and iOS 13.
- marmarama 2mo agoNight Sight appeared on the Google Pixel camera app in 2018. I think Nokia was doing it first on phones before Microsoft destroyed the remains of their phone business. The reborn Nokia/HMD was also doing multi-sensor image stacking back in 2019 on the Nokia 9 Pureview.
- walrus01 2mo agoI think this is actually how oneplus phones have taken 'night' mode photos for a very long time in their default camera app, it takes multiple exposures and uses the movement sensor in the phone to pick several which were taken with the least hand jitter, and then stacks them into the final result.
- sajomes 2mo agoI believe that's true for most/all night capture, but they take sequential frames from the same lens rather than combining multiple lenses.
- iAMkenough 2mo agoMy hesitations on this are it stores data in a proprietary format that I may not be able to export to another common format if the product disappears in a few years. For something personal like photos and the memories they capture, that's not ideal for me. While the app is still with us, I'm not sure how much it will cost me to export to my photos to my photo library each month.
- sajomes 2mo agoThere is zero lock-in with the files being saved - you can export from the app in HEIC/PNG/JPEG as well as PSD and spatial/SBS 3D. The format the website calls the 'Photosynthesis' file is an HEIC so even if you export that you can still access the data outside of the app. Unlimited exports of the composite images are part of the subscription (with an option to automatically export to Photos.app and/or a folder of your choosing), but the free tier still offers unlimited saving of the constituent images e.g. the wide & tele shots, just not the composite.
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- jrm4 2mo agoAs an Android guy and not an iPhone, or phone pic guy... What do the multiple lenses do then, if not this? Like,I presumed that was the point. Are they LITERALLY just decoration for me to make fun of?
- Aurornis 2mo agoDifferent optical zoom levels. Many phones already use information from both cameras, too. Android phones have multiple cameras too.
- ashtonshears 2mo agoNormal, wide, and zoomed
- tomasphan 2mo agoThis has to be bait right? They’re different lenses with different focal lengths. Same as on Android phones with more than one lens.
- jrm4 2mo agoRight, but to a complete casual like me, what you're saying and what the op is posting as a new thing, seem really similar. I point my phone at a thing and click. One or more lenses take picture(s), software magic happens to the pictures and they look good.
- tomasphan 2mo agoOn an iPhone the different lenses are selected by the user depending on the focal length they wish to have. The iPhone does not merge different lenses for higher resolution- which is how this app is different.
- rjh29 2mo agoSome older android phones like the Huawei P20 Pro had a combination of 40 MP main sensor and 8 MP monochrome sensor and combined them to produce a better image. But modern phones tend to have zoom, normal and wide-angle lenses which don't overlap in any meaningful sense. Your idea about combining two lenses to make a better quality image could also be done with a single lens, just taking more photos in a row. Almost all phones (iOS/Android) do this for you already.
- swiftcoder 2mo agoThis might be a personal preference thing, but in every single example photo on that page, I significantly prefer the colours in the "standard zoom" version of the photo. I wonder if they can figure out how to do this fusion without losing that beautiful contrast the zoom lens brings to the table?
- sajomes 2mo agoThat's really interesting - the colour match attempts to find the best match between the two lens outputs, which frequently results in them 'meeting in the middle'. You can then manually adjust the output of each lens within the app's editing interface. I'll have a think about the weighting of the colour match.
- teaearlgraycold 2mo agoThis whole thing feels wrong. OP should be working for a phone manufacturer, not trying to sell this as a subscription. How much is it worth to be able to squeeze a little more visual clarity out of my phone? Maybe $20 maximum? And I feel like I’m on the generous side of the population here. Most people will say $0. But if you’re inside of Apple and you can tell them you can add an average of $1 of perceived value to each of their millions of phones sold each year they’ll be over the moon and you can get a fat salary.
- jnsie 2mo agoInteresting. I wonder if this could be extended to take MPO 3D photos.
- sajomes 2mo agoThat is something I want to look at post-1.0-launch.
- copper-float 2mo agoHow can you in good conscience charge a subscription for this? It would be one thing if the app relied on infrastructure, but it's a one and done algorithm that's entirely local on device! Subscriptions are charged because the developer needs to maintain the upkeep and cost of running the service, but that's not applicable here. It's capable of taking a million photographs fully offline, without any reliance on an online service. Essentially you're saying your product is so superb that people should pay you indefinitely for the privilege of using it. Even though it costs you nothing to maintain, you somehow need people to perpetually pay you for a local, offline algorithm that you wrote one time. How gross, that's the definition of pointless greed. Shame on you, honestly. This is exactly what's wrong with modern software nowadays. Just like Adobe and all these other companies, taking advantage of people to milk them dry forever. You'll lease a product, you won't have the right to own anything, and you'll be happy about it.
- andai 2mo ago>It would be one thing if the app relied on infrastructure Look into value based pricing. It's a mistake to charge based on how much something costs you to produce. As an example, if I make an SEO tweak that makes a company an extra $10M in profit a year, should I charge for the hour of effort it took? Or should I charge differently?
- AlexeyBelov 2mo agoWhy is it a mistake? I mean, I know value based pricing is _possible_, but you're saying it's the only way?
- andai 2mo agoWell to continue the example above, invoicing for a million per hour (e.g. 10% of the increased profit of 10M) is possible but definitely a bit strange. You probably want to structure it differently at that point. Or to give another example, if it takes you 1 minute to adjust something which boosts someone's profits by 20% permanently, should you invoice them for 0.02 * hourly_rate?
- crazygringo 2mo agoI'm confused. So this is just producing a single photo that is clearer in a middle rectangle and blurrier outside that rectangle? Of course the extra detail in the middle is nicer, but won't the edge of the "detail rectangle" be extremely obvious and distracting? Like when you zoom into satellite view on Maps and it's clear that there's a blurry area and a sharp area? I don't understand why you'd ever want these two things combined into a single image. I can understand why you'd want to snap photos with both lenses simultaneously as save them as separate photos, but I don't understand why you'd combine them.
- DonHopkins 2mo ago>but won't the edge of the "detail rectangle" be extremely obvious and distracting? Your own eyes work that way, so you tell me.
- shmeeed 2mo agoMy eyes are also always focused at the center of what I'm seeing, as opposed to a picture that you can pan.
- ebbi 2mo ago> So this is just producing a single photo that is clearer in a middle rectangle and blurrier outside that rectangle? Yeah that looks to be the case. Not sure what use case this solves with that 'limitation'. I don't think photographers would particularly like this.
- kndidneid 2mo ago> I don't think photographers would particularly like this. No we really don’t.
- n2d4 2mo ago> I don't understand why you'd ever want these two things combined into a single image. An image with the FOV of the wide-angle camera but the quality of the main one in the center? Assuming the border interpolation works well (which tbf is probably hard for close objects), why would anyone not want this?
- AtheistOfFail 2mo agoWeird issue: The iPhone dropdown doesn't include the iPhone XR. It's not like I expect it to work, I'm just curious what the app does.
- xiaoyu2006 2mo agoHow is parallax error solved? The two cameras don't share the same optics center.
- anthonyskipper 2mo agoParallax error decreases significantly when lens are close enough and these are mm apart. They are close enough that you can probably just play a perspective trick and hide any artifacts.
- LoganDark 2mo agoThis appears to use a naïve masking approach (using ML to find the edges of the mask) which seems to suffer from slight uncorrected differences in lens distortion. There's a fairly obvious feathering around the edges of the detailed area, objects shift quite dramatically, and overall I feel like I'd do a better job of this manually. It is a cool idea, but flawed execution. I would prefer something like using ML to generate a displacement map between the wide angle and the narrow angle parts. That way you can map the higher details down faithfully without having to feather the edges nearly as much or compute any mask. That would also solve parallax which I see also looks unaccounted for.
- p1necone 2mo agoI just assumed this was what all phones with multiple rear cameras were doing, is it not? What are the multiple cameras for other than that?
- hackingonempty 2mo agoEach camera has a different optical system with a different focal length range. This lets the camera cover everything from ultra wide angle to telescopic magnification while remaining thin enough to fit in a phone.
- cromka 2mo agoThat's clearly not a problem, which the very app here demonstrates
- Gigachad 2mo agoPhones can't fit a zoom lens with moving elements. The other cameras are just other prime lenses so you aren't restricted to having a single focal length all the time. When you hit the little 0.5x, 1x, 4x buttons in the camera app you are switching between the physical cameras. Though Apple goes out of their way to obscure what is actually happening. The obvious issue with the product here is that the telephoto lens will not cover the whole image that the 1x captured so only some portion of the center of the frame will be higher resolution.
- niek_pas 2mo agoThat is a fantastic name.
- sajomes 2mo agoThank you! I was very happy when I came up with it
- gurjeet 2mo agoI believe this is something similar to what Lytro aimed to bring to market. Lytro, Inc. was an American company founded in 2006 by Ren Ng which developed some of the first commercially available light-field cameras. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lytro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lytro
- magarnicle 2mo agoNo, that's a fundamentally different kind of lens.
- billylo 2mo agoSomewhat related... I made an indie app called TwinCam which combines front-and-back camera images to create a combined selfie. Free. No strings attached. Cheers! https://apps.apple.com/us/app/twincam/id6448645623 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/twincam/id6448645623 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.evergreenlabs.twincam https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.evergreenl...
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- collabs 2mo agoI have a Motorola moto g stylus 2025. I have not altered the OS or installed a custom rom. I simply have not signed into Google yet. I use aurora store to download and install app updates from the play store. What I'm curious about is why some apps won't even open at all without a Google log in? Is there something in your app that requires a Google account?
- rationalist 2mo ago> No strings attached. Except for the "have full network access" permission according to the Google Play Store.
- sebmellen 2mo agoThis is probably some kind of configuration mistake… I wouldn’t presume the author has any nefarious intent.
- tambourine_man 2mo agoNice idea. On my phone, at least, I had to pintch-to-zoom to 2-3X to see the difference. And at that size, the “synthesized” version looks much sharper. You might need more cropping for the mobile version. At 1X I couldn’t tell them apart. Haven’t checked the desktop version yet
- 1317 2mo agonicer comparison site: https://slow.pics/c/xpGfe2hK https://slow.pics/c/xpGfe2hK
- tantalor 2mo agoLeading with a concert photo example is cringe. Camera phones are a scourge on the concert experience. It should not be encouraged.
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- magarnicle 2mo agoI want to know what is possible if there were triple the number of cameras on the back of the phone and every single one fired on every photo. If they all focused at different points, the telephotos zoomed at different lengths etc., maybe throw some infrared cameras on there as well, what would be the results when combined?
- neom 2mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_(company) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_(company) Good review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3uUozW4zHc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3uUozW4zHc
- magarnicle 2mo agoThat definitely looks like what I imagined.
- Gigachad 2mo agoThere is a much better way of doing this which some professional cameras do called pixel shift. It shifts the sensor a tiny amount in between multiple exposures to compose in to an absurdly high resolution image. The downside is it only works on a tripod since you need the camera perfectly still. The obvious issue with multiple cameras at different focal lengths is they won't all cover the frame of the widest one so only parts of the image will be sharper. But if this matters to you, just get a full frame camera. Any 33MP full frame will blow away a 200MP phone camera in sharpness and detail.
- magarnicle 2mo agoI wasn't thinking so much about resolution, but rather all the other things it might allow. Re-focusing after taking it, for example. 3D by default, since the width of a phone is basically the distance between your eyes. A host of other things the much-more-high-powered CPU on the phone can do compared to a camera.
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- dmd 2mo agoI'm so confused. Does the dev not know that this is what iPhones do by default?
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- jagged-chisel 2mo agoNot a fan of “Photosynthesis” on the demo. Sliding between the two, “standard” looks clearer and cleaner.
- cchance 2mo agoSily question... why not all 3
- sajomes 2mo agoAll 3 is in the app! It's a much harder challenge to deal with the parallax and other artefacts that come up from combining 3 lenses, so that particular feature is launching in beta.
- shaky-carrousel 2mo agoIt would have been nicer if the examples wouldn't have been digitally altered to exaggerate the results. For instance, the center of the third photo has been intentionally blurred in the "standard photo" version. The fact that they have to resort to manipulation to sell their product tells me that they are not trustworthy and that their product is probably underwhelming.
- biker142541 2mo agoAwesome work. Now to bring back the fusing of several images into a true high res pano! Not the garbage native “pano” mode but a true stitched mosaic.
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- EDEdDNEdDYFaN 2mo agoI cannot see a meaningful difference at all in any of the example photos, so not really seeing what the point of this is.
- sgt 2mo agoI tried this using TestFlight but I get the distinct feeling that this is (1) vibe coded (and as a consequence, a fair bit of AI slop, you can even tell from the UI) (2) Slow and bloated from the get go - just look at the download size, nearly 170MB (3) Also the results are disappoint to say the least. So maybe other people find more value in this, but it's off my TestFlight for now.
- levanlevi 2mo agoyou don't need subscription model, just one price for lifetime - that will be fair and convert better. don't do trials - do refund within 28 days
- kalleboo 2mo ago> don't do trials - do refund within 28 days iOS does not allow developers to refund their customers since no personal information is shared with the developer
- TeMPOraL 2mo agoHonestly, I assumed the stock phone apps are doing this by default. It would be stupid not to? It's like a low-hanging fruit present ever since phones started having multiple cameras on the back. (EDIT: though the only real confirmation of this being done that I have is, Samsung's "Camera Assistant" addon has an option to enable "2x zoom" as separate button, and the description there states explicitly it's a synthetic zoom made from combining the main and telephoto camera.) (EDIT2: come to think of it, for almost any regular mode, if I use my fingers to block two of the three cameras, the image is unchanged, which empirically proves at least Samsung is not doing this - which again makes me wonder, why not? It's an obvious thing to do.) On that note, I don't understand why there's no widespread, genai-free apps for "super resolution" aka. take a video (or a burst photo shot) of a stationary thing and use it to reconstruct a single photo with much higher detail level. For videos I can imagine the reason would be that video compression is literally doing the inverse of that (i.e. the information you'd need to reconstruct a higher-resolution image is exactly the one that the compressor throws away for 90% of the frames), so the algorithm and compressor would cancel out. But that doesn't explain why this doesn't seem to exist for burst photos.
- libertas_quae_s 2mo agoThis is interesting. I'm just curious to know how long will it survive until Apple adds something like that to their software. Do you have a fallback plan for this? But I must say that the idea is quite interesting.
- shinycode 2mo agoApple already does that since last year at least. In many situations if you 4x and put your finger on the 1x you’ll see the picture change. Sometimes massively
- libertas_quae_s 2mo agoNice, I didn't know that.
- a2fz 2mo agoWoah - Alexandra Palace spotted on the landing page?
- dares2573 2mo agoI remember that the iPhone 15's official promotion said it would combine 8 or 10 photos into one, right?
- dan_man 2mo agoImpressive! And I love the comparison tool on the website. One more thing should be added as an overlay on each photo are the EXIF data, I want to see that comparison as well.
- vkaku 2mo agoThey could actually do Stereographic 3D photos well enough now
- smusamashah 2mo agoIt does not look like the lenses are firing at exact same time. It can be seen more clearly where subjects are moving (woman with her baby in pool for example). Is that a limitation of operating system? I imagine if it is possible to do that at exact moment, some further processing might be possible
- Readerium 2mo agoYup same bug I felt.
- b__d 2mo agoProject Indigo from Adobe does that too https://apps.apple.com/us/app/project-indigo/id6742591546 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/project-indigo/id6742591546
- kiops 2mo ago[dead]