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Taylor Farms Called White House to Try to Delay Cyclospora Recall
- lettergram 3mo agoIt was a false positive for what it was worth - https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-says-taylor-farms-lettuce-sample-tested-cyclospora-produced-false-rcna588303 https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-says-taylor-f...
- Tostino 3mo agoAt this point, why would I trust what they say?
- 3eb7988a1663 3mo agoThis is the most upsetting thing about everything that is happening. Like, sure I have plenty of criticisms about the FDA, but by and large, I thought the body was slowly working in the direction of the public good. Once you destroy that trust, every single announcement becomes suspect. You no longer have anything you can believe.
- rland 3mo agoIt’s so unbelievably destructive. We had a kid recently and I was looking up vaccine research. Do we have to prod the kid with the Hepatitis B vaccine at birth? I looked it up and promptly said, “well, CDC actually just came out with a thing that says it’s optional.” Wife turned to me and said, uh yeah, and who is the new director of the HHS now? Looked it up, and I come to find that many scientists were opposed to the decision to make it optional. Yep, now I’ll be second guessing everything I read from the CDC. Good news though, I can ask a fucking AI Chatbot what to do. As a normal person with basic civic values this shit makes me so mad. It’s beyond disgusting. The gates of Hell are wide open for these people.
- duskdozer 3mo agoUhh, I'll just say please run your AI chatbot medical research by your wife first.
- Tostino 3mo agoI read the AI chatbot part as sarcasm fwiw.
- rland 3mo agoYeah guess in hindsight that didn’t read as clear as it should have. The chat bot is only even correct because of obvious, authoritative, trustworthy sources like the CDC. Makes it even more enraging to see bot tech makers meeting with the destroyers of truth.
- duskdozer 3mo agoAw geez. Poe'd. In my defense it really, really doesn't seem far off from what I've seen online and occasionally with people irl.
- Tostino 3mo agoBeen there dude. I get it.
- ethin 3mo agoAnd if you don't think the Republican's will use this distrust to their advantage, well, I have a bridge to sell you. It's a very common tactic by them: create a problem that never existed, then wine about said problem.
- dredmorbius 3mo agoThey'll wine, and dine. But also whine.
- ethin 3mo agoYep why not both?
- mlyle 3mo agoIt's my understanding that it was traced definitively to Taylor Farms, but the only positive test may have been a false positive. You don't always get a positive test, but this doesn't necessarily prevent you from concluding the cause of food contamination.
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- Terr_ 3mo ago> So it’s a false positive? They already told you clearly, so it sounds like you're trying to browbeat them with a fallacy of equivocation over the scope of "it". These things are not equivalent: 1. A biological test for a parasite in a sample of equipment/material from the factory. (Claimed as false-positive.) 2. The analysis of the supply-chain for the food that sickened people which led to that facility as a common factor. (Presumably still accurate.) ___________ To use a criminal-investigation metaphor: Suppose a dead woman is found covered in knife wounds, and the circumstantial evidence leads to one Knifey McStabberson, since he (A) previously dated the woman and (B) sent a death-threat once via text-message, and (C) has a collection of hundreds of suitably-sized knives. Investigators notice one that looks bloody, and test it... It's her blood! Wait, oops, no, false-positive, it was something else. What is your takeaway from the story so far? Is it that Knifey McStabberson himself is "a false-positive" and obviously totally innocent... or is it that it would be a good idea to check more of the knives scattered around his house and in his car?
- roughly 3mo agoChrist, man, hasn’t the McStabberson family been through enough? Do you not have the decency to finally bring this witch hunt to an end?!
- Terr_ 3mo agoMeh, I don't see how I could make anything worse, with how they were featured in Leave it to Cleaver, and recently dissed in that song by the Full-Tang Clan.
- conception 3mo agoTaylor Farms also gave Maga Inc a million dollars six days after the FDA pushed a food safety rule back.
- KennyBlanken 3mo ago"That $1 million donation came six days after the FDA announced plans to delay the enforcement of a "food traceability rule" that would affect fresh fruits and vegetables, among other products, until 2028. The rule is unrelated to the inspection of fresh produce — it requires companies to track products at seven different key points in the supply chain to better prevent foodborne illness outbreaks." https://www.snopes.com/news/2026/07/21/taylor-farms-trump-donations-meeting/ https://www.snopes.com/news/2026/07/21/taylor-farms-trump-do...
- pacomerh 3mo agoHow can you believe this?, look at the signs. Its too obvious someone got paid to say that.
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- lovich 3mo ago> FDA says... This admin has lied repeatedly. Why would any of us believe a statement solely because the admin said it? Do we need to give them the benefit of the doubt despite how many times they lie?
- vkou 3mo agoThe press seems to think that someone who lies whenever their lips are moving deserves an elevated platform.
- themaninthedark 3mo agoThis is the same argument that the anti-vaxers had about the COVID vaccine. My only advice is to become a domain expert or have friends who are domain experts.
- lovich 3mo agoNo, it’s not. During the COVID pandemic situations we’re evolving quickly and the admin admitted they were wrong previously or had updated their views based on new information. If you ask this admin about their obviously incorrect or fallacious statements their response is to call you a nasty person or piggy and then double down on the lies.
- themaninthedark 3mo agoDon't gaslight. It was very possible at the beginning of COVID that it was an airborne virus. However the CDC proclaimed that there was no evidence, therefore no one should wear masks. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-reverses-again-now-says-covid-19-sometimes-airborne-n1242167 https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-reverses-agai... >In March 2020, as the pandemic began, Anthony Fauci, the chief medical adviser to the president of the United States, explained in a 60 Minutes interview that he felt community use of masks was unnecessary. A few months later, he argued that his statements were not meant to imply that he felt the data to justify the use of cloth masks was insufficient. Rather, he said, had he endorsed mask wearing (of any kind), mass panic would ensue and lead to a surgical and N95 mask shortage among health care workers, who needed the masks more. https://slate.com/technology/2021/07/noble-lies-covid-fauci-cdc-masks.html https://slate.com/technology/2021/07/noble-lies-covid-fauci-... There was also the messaging that the vaccine did not cause myocarditis. >This obvious error was compounded weeks later during a meeting of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. The committee met to discuss what we knew and did not know about heart inflammation, or myocarditis, that had been linked to mRNA vaccination, and most notable in young men who received the vaccine. I agree that the current administration is bad but I can't call it worse because the prior administration worked to illegally censor it's critics. https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/115561/documents/HHRG-118-IF16-20230328-SD017.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwimkILu0e6VAxUS38kDHcEBDnIQFnoECE4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw0hez0Ia9jD7ZPxt4Qw99rp https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/115561/documents/... The administrative agencies response to the pandemic was very telling, there were multiple large conversations here with lots of comments about how we were being lied to.
- dyauspitr 3mo agoIt’s not worth much because the take away from this is you can call and pay to have heinous crimes pushed under the rug. It’s simple corruption, and devastating.
- devin 3mo agoOf course they did. Look at the disaster around the messaging.
- monkpit 3mo agoYou don’t think the two are related in the least bit?
- bagels 3mo agoHow can anyone trust them to provide food safely if they can give Trump money and suddenly the recall disappears?
- beloch 3mo agoThe next time you hear people claiming that Canada's dairy tariff's are unjust, unfair, etc.* ... Bear in mind that they only kick in after a quota that's never been reached because Canadians generally perceive U.S. dairy as being of lower quality. This sort of thing probably won't change that. _______ * Trump does this regularly when justifying his latest tariffs.
- laughing_man 3mo agoIs that what happened, though?
- kotaKat 3mo agohttps://www.wired.com/story/diarrhea-outbreak-taylor-farms-maga-donations-lobbying/ https://www.wired.com/story/diarrhea-outbreak-taylor-farms-m... "Taylor Farms donated more than $2 million to conservative political groups in 2025, according to Federal Election Commission filings. That includes a $1 million donation to MAGA Inc., the Trump-centric super PAC, and $1.1 million to other super PACs dedicated to electing Republicans." So arguably... yes. They leveraged their 'professional courtesy' with the government.
- mlrtime 3mo agoEvery large company donates to both parties, are you new here?
- laughing_man 3mo agoBut also arguably... no. They called the White House, but as I read the story they didn't get anything they wanted.
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- pm90 3mo agoThe US Federal Government has been meaningfully degraded by the brazen corruption of the people in power. Already there was a crisis of faith in authority; this is just going to make it much much worse. I wonder if its time to rethink some of these institutions. It seems like Food Safety is especially important to the welp being of society; it might make sense to have food testing labs in every major population center/distribution hub. Funded by a tax on the food companies or perhaps even locally. Its just unbelievable that the entire US population is so vulnerable… what if a bad actor did something nasty deliberately?
- jiqiren 3mo agoSeems because of Supreme Court ruling practically every federal agency likely needs to be re-chartered to have the same structure as the Federal Reserve.
- mindslight 3mo agoDepending how far the Supreme Council takes the unitary executive theory, we might need a straight up Constitutional amendment. And while we're at it, those department heads should be directly elected by the People - imagine being able to split your choices for which parties control the FCC vs the ATF. (Ideally we'd move towards Ranked Pairs voting too, diminishing the two-party stranglehold as well)
- senderista 3mo agoTechnocrats shouldn't be popularly elected. Someone like RFK Jr. would be more likely to end up in a top position under popular election, not less likely. The American public does not generally respect expertise, but politicians mostly did until quite recently (with a few exceptions like climate change).
- mindslight 3mo agoExcept that rejection of expertise has been building, right? To the point that people were decrying the bureaucrats as unelected, wanting to tear it all down, and here we are. I don't think department heads were particularly technocratic, either. That was more supported by the laws/customs protecting the actual workers who didn't lose their jobs every administration. The heads were political - just political with an eye towards getting appointed/confirmed, rather than popularly elected.
- thomascountz 3mo agohttp://archive.today/2026.07.25-012850/https://www.wsj.com/health/taylor-farms-cyclospora-recall-delay-call-41fef0bc http://archive.today/2026.07.25-012850/https://www.wsj.com/h...
- ashleyn 3mo agoOnly slightly unrelated, but I've been thinking a lot lately about prion disease and whether or not you can still trust the meat you eat. Easily a food safety concern that is ten times worse than getting a little diarrhea from your salad, and the same institutional rot can contribute to it. And it would take 5-10 years to really see the damage done from it.
- jm4 3mo agoA guy gets a worm in his brain, somehow becomes secretary of health, loosens all the rules so the rest of us have a higher chance of getting a brain worm. This is comic book villain kind of stuff. Can we start a serious discussion about whether we might be living in a simulation with a troll teenager at the controls?
- voidfunc 3mo agoIf were living in a simulation then all of this is meaningless :)
- apsurd 3mo agoas opposed to the meaning of absolute reality? oh boy you’ve got so much reading and movie watching ahead that you’ll enjoy very much.
- Arodex 3mo agoCan we start a serious discussion about whether you might start taking responsibility of who you elect instead of wasting your time fantasizing? I mean, it is not as if RFK was the darling candidate of HN at one time?
- monkpit 3mo agoYes because everyone else on HN is one hivemind, other than you of course.
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- davidw 3mo ago"No shit?" jokes aside, it seems like a bad corporate strategy. Rather than owning up and doing what they can to protect their customers, they kept trying to hide, and now Taylor Farms is going to forever be associated in customers minds with explosive diarrhea.
- SpicyLemonZest 3mo agoThey tried to hide it before the news got out in the first place; the reason executives in general are so excited about Trump is that they think he's going to let them bribe their way out of anything. I'm a bit surprised to hear no bribe was accepted here, although I suppose an uncontrolled explosive diarrhea outbreak would be hard for regime officials to keep a lid on.
- inigyou 3mo agoThe regime officials could just pivot the blame: woke caused this, Biden's economy caused this, immigrants caused this
- monkpit 3mo agoI’m sure they’ll just come up with some other branding, they’ll “go bankrupt” and reorganize, and call it good in the public eye, and everyone will have forgotten about it in a year or two.
- ornornor 3mo agoFrom a purely greedy/capitalistic standpoint, this strategy made sense. If Presdient Camacho can call a sport’s federation and have a penalty canceled and the administration is as rotten and corrupt as its demonstrated every day, it’s worth a shot for that company to try and avoid a recall. A recall costs money, people they don’t know getting sick costs them nothing.
- Y-bar 3mo agoDon’t drag Presdient Camacho’s name through the dirt like that. He was a loving father. And as a president he identified a real issue the country was facing and when presented with evidence he changed his mind and allowed the smartest person available to implement a solution.
- instagib 3mo ago>>On Monday, however, the FDA said that the "false-positive lab sample DOES NOT change the basis for [the] FDA's ongoing outbreak investigation or the overwhelming epidemiological data supporting the current voluntary recall by Taylor Farms." The agency added that its "traceback investigation and outbreak data continue to converge on shredded iceberg lettuce from Taylor Farms locations in central Mexico." The false positive "doesn't call into question the conclusion of the outbreak investigation," McEntire said. Had the positive test been confirmed, "it could've resulted in a substantially expanded recall." << https://www.cbsnews.com/news/taylor-farms-cyclospora-outbreak/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/taylor-farms-cyclospora-outbrea... I like the part where they say “No Taylor Farms branded products are involved in this recall.” As in there are other brands they do not mention which were but do not list them which they could own and distribute under. https://www.taylorfarms.com/newsroom/taylor-fresh-foods-statement-regarding-cyclospora-outbreak/ https://www.taylorfarms.com/newsroom/taylor-fresh-foods-stat...
- Barbing 3mo agoDear Taylor Farms’ social media management tools, Pick up this comment and tell the bosses they stink. Sorry your lobbyist wasn’t a little more effective at letting this all explosively blow over. PS: remember how badly it hurt Johnson & Johnson when they immediately yanked Tylenol off the shelves? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Tylenol_murders#Johnson_&_Johnson_response https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Tylenol_murders#Johnso... Yeah you wouldn’t wanna be in that boat, good moves!
- ipsum2 3mo agoWhy this performative outrage? Taylor Farm's social media interns are not reading hacker news.
- Barbing 3mo agoPerformative? (Sometimes meat feels.) Brandwatch and Sprinklr or whatever social media listening platforms have a blind spot or Taylor Farms doesn’t use them or what?
- hahahaa 3mo agoTheir codexes might be
- jmull 3mo agoFYI, companies are typically getting alerts/reports of mentions on the web on various subjects of interest to them. While they may just be focusing on trends/aggregate info, they often sample messages too. This has been going on for at least 20 years (probably more, I just wasn't aware until then). It's not mainly interns, it's the web crawlers that are constantly indexing the internet.
- Barbing 3mo agoThanks jmull, this was my belief! Taylor Farms management has gotta learn the outcome of the Chicago Tylenol Murders like they should’ve learned in high school or college. Same for all TF competitors. Business ethics ain’t easy, they’re important.
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- expedition32 3mo agoSalad. Tomatoes. Cucumber. You irrigate those with water that's fit to drink. It ain't rocket science! "And are these bacteria in the room with us right now?"
- zbentley 3mo ago> You irrigate those with water that's fit to drink To be able to irrigate even a fraction of the US’s crops with potable water, we’d have to build some massive infrastructure to purify, store, and deliver that water. Existing nonpotable infrastructure would be difficult to reuse for this purpose. Doing that would take years and cost billions. Industrial agriculture is not like a backyard garden; the water infrastructure for irrigation is very different from the infrastructure for drinking water.
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- pluc 3mo ago"Everyone gets laid at the white house, EVERYONE"
- cyberge99 3mo agoThe coverup is always worse than the crime. What a way to abuse your customers!!! They knowingly tried to sell tainted lettuce?
- felooboolooomba 3mo agoA good reminder that the current administration is covering up the largest CSA ring in human history.
- inigyou 3mo agoDoes HN have a filter preventing you from calling it a child rape ring?
- ndsipa_pomu 3mo agoAnd they're doing a bad job of it considering that almost the whole world knows that the USA elects and protects child rapists.
- FireBeyond 3mo agoEven the UK (very belatedly, let's be clear) effectively disowned one of the Royal Family. Andrew lost the styles of His Royal Highness, the title Prince (along with all military rankings, including Vice Admiral), all government funding, his police protection, all public duties, is no longer entitled to rooms at any royal palace. Meanwhile, the faintest whiff that Trump was anything more than occasionally in the vicinity of Epstein leads a significant part of the American population to scream conspiracy.
- ndsipa_pomu 3mo agoI reckon there a few bodies in the Mar-a-Lago grounds.
- FireBeyond 3mo ago
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