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Magnesium supplementation solved my sleep issues. I have seen many doctors, including sleep specialists, regarding insomnia. They all pointed to one source as
by petilon 3mo ago
Magnesium supplementation solved my sleep issues.
I have seen many doctors, including sleep specialists, regarding insomnia. They all pointed to one source as the reason for the sleep issues: stress. And they all wanted to put me on prescription sleeping pills. I said no to that. Sleeping pills can cause dependence, and they often treat the symptom rather than the underlying cause. As a software developer, I am used to finding and fixing the underlying problem instead of relying on the quick fixes these doctors were offering me.
After much research, I figured out what I believe was the underlying problem, and the fix for it. The underlying problem was magnesium deficiency. As a software developer, I spend much of the day doing mentally demanding work. This is the kind of stress the doctors were talking about. Stress can increase the body's demand for magnesium and may contribute to low magnesium levels.
The cells in our body depend on minerals such as calcium and magnesium for normal function. In muscle and nerve cells, calcium helps switch the cell into an active state, while magnesium helps keep that activation under control and supports the return to a resting state. When you are low on magnesium, your muscles may remain tense and your nervous system may have a harder time settling down. That can contribute to muscle stiffness and difficulty sleeping.
The solution, in my case, was magnesium supplements. They fixed my muscle stiffness issues and my sleep issues. A special form of magnesium called magnesium L-threonate may be especially helpful for the brain because it appears to raise brain magnesium levels more effectively than some other forms.
- jorblumesea 3mo agoIt's funny you talk about treating the root cause, and take magnesium, instead of addressing the workplace stress factor.
- blanched 3mo agoI get what you’re saying, but I think it’s fair to view it as equivalent to drinking a protein shake after a workout. You used the resources in a productive and healthy way, now you need to replenish them.
- jorblumesea 3mo agosure if you're just taking it as a dietary supplement, but clearly OP is using it as a form of sleeping pill. which is also fine but just seems like mental gymnastics.
- francisofascii 3mo agoThe magnesium deficiency would probably still exist if you removed the stressful job. Unfortunately switching jobs or careers is not an option in this current job market.
- petilon 3mo agoYou are absolutely right about that. It is important to reduce stress. Insomnia is only one of the ways excessive stress shows up.
- gib444 3mo ago> You are absolutely right about that Not helping the 'AI ad' claims lol
- __turbobrew__ 3mo agoStress pays my mortgage unfortunately, and I don’t have a way to make money otherwise because all the jobs in my profession of over a decade are stressful.
- bitexploder 3mo agoMagnesium is a great supplement in general. You can definitely have too much in your system and that is undesirable, but a bit before bed time along with 1-3mcg of melatonin work well for me. It is nice after workouts. I use magnesium glycinate in powder form, which is more bioavailable than some forms as well. I also find sauna before bed is good. I have a bed chiller so I can crank up the sauna before bed and not sweat a lot. Generally if I sauna and take the aforementioned supplements I sleep well. Exercise also seems to help me out a lot. If I exercise during the day, and a 4-5 times that week in general, I tend to sleep well.
- Jimpulse 3mo agoYour report matches my experience as well! Funny how it's basically do all the things you're supposed to do - exercise, diet, stress management - then sleep is then easier.
- kakacik 3mo agoMg or melatonin have 0 effects on me, Mg helps if I over-exercise but thats for muscles regeneration. I dont have problems normally, just cant sleep in high altitude, 3000m is already showing mild effects. Guess what, I do/did quite a bit of mountaineering, its easy to get above 5000m in himalayas, highest I've been in tent attempting to sleep before summit push was 6000m on Aconcagua. Tried both Mg and melatonin up there over multiple nights, 0 improvements. I had highest O2 blood level measured in 5500m by doctor (mandatory there) from whole group. Physical effort makes better sleep for literally everybody, thats age old knowledge and I havent met a single exception yet.
- stronglikedan 3mo ago> Mg or melatonin have 0 effects on me > I dont have problems normally A lot of things don't have effects on people that don't have the problems the thing is trying to solve.
- kakacik 3mo agoI meant during higher altitude adventures, as rest of my post explains in detail. Did you get to that part?
- shiftingleft 3mo ago> Sleeping pills can cause dependence, and they often treat the symptom rather than the underlying cause. I found gwern's take on Melatonin interesting: https://gwern.net/melatonin https://gwern.net/melatonin A small excerpt: > One might object that they do not wish to tamper with their natural sleep, even if melatonin is a normally-secreted hormone. > Sad to say, I would point out to such readers that they are already profoundly tampering with their natural sleep cycle, and indeed, all of Western civilization is tampering with it; most of my readers do not even sleep multiple times during the day, as ‘Nature intends’ and as humans have usually slept through history, but rather in a single 7–9 hour long block. > [...] > Finally, there are multiple lines of research suggesting chronic sleep deprivation is prevalent among young adults (including historical comparisons). It is striking that unemployed adults sleep a full hour longer than the employed , and that when normal adults are placed in settings without artificial light like camping or without any time indicators, they sleep longer than before - exactly as if they were sleep deprived.
- bigmadshoe 3mo agoThe problem with that take is that the evidence for melatonin is quite poor outside of jet-lag and certain more serious sleep disorders, and there can be unexpected effects elsewhere in the body when supplementing hormones, e.g. increased rates of depression for melatonin in particular.
- deepvibrations 3mo agoThis. And maybe anecdotal, but my experience of people who have used melatonin is that they sleep very deeply, but for a shorter amount of time. But likely they will wake up after around 6/7 hours sleep, rather than the recommended 8 hours of sleep. And once woken up, it's very hard to go back to sleep.
- TingPing 3mo agoI specifically take a timed release melatonin, really improved my sleep. Otherwise I did have inconsistent sleep on regular melatonin.
- cafebabbe 3mo agoDon't eat pills. Fix your diet.
- tempfile 3mo agoWhy?
- gobdovan 3mo agoI'd refine it as 'If feasible, try fixing your diet before going for pills'. The body is adapted to function within a healthy nutritional range. If your diet falls outside that range, it's expected that your body won't function properly. If problems persist despite a good diet, then pills become a more reasonable option.
- cafebabbe 3mo agoBecause it's unlikely that a specific deficiency is your only single problem.
- tempfile 3mo agoBased on what? You seem to be assuming that the only way to be deficient in something is to have a junk diet. It is quite easy to be deficient in just one nutrient.
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- Congeec 3mo agoDid you take a blood test for magnesium level?
- petilon 3mo agoBlood tests are pretty useless for magnesium. The deficiency is in cells, magnesium level in blood is not a good test for that deficiency.
- orionsbelt 3mo agoThey have blood tests for both (serum or RBC): The Magnesium RBC Test measures magnesium inside red blood cells, providing a more accurate assessment of magnesium status than serum tests.
- allannienhuis 3mo agowhat is a good test for magnesium deficiency?
- petilon 3mo agoThey only have blood tests, and that's not very useful.
- m_mueller 3mo agowouldn't a cell deficiency lead to it depleting also the magnesium levels in the blood, simply based on osmosis?
- stouset 3mo agoIf blood concentrations drop, you die.
- manoDev 3mo agoThe organism dumps Mg on the blood as much as necessary because it needs to remain in stable concentrations. When a serum Mg test comes out low, the patient already has severe deficiency and visible symptoms, so isn’t very useful unless you’re investigating a systemic issue. As explained by my endocrinologist.
- mark_something 3mo agoFor me glycine helps amazingly. It's an amino acid that the brain needs during sleep. I take about 5 grams in water about an hour before I go to sleep. I'm not sure how much the glycinate in magnesium glycinate has the same effect. Oddly, it has the opposite effect as sleeping pills on me, it doesn't make me sleep more but I'm more rested when I wake up. It even happened a few times that I only slept 5 hours but still could focus well at work and bike intensively for an hour in the evening, without glycine that was impossible. At 20 euro/kg I think I'll take it for the rest of my life, and it probably will add a few years to my life.
- artursapek 3mo agoYep, I've been taking glycine and magnesium for years. I am not as consistent as I should be but it makes a big difference when I use them.
- turzmo 3mo agoSame here. Only thing that’s ever worked.
- johndough 3mo agoYour comment sounds like an AI-generated advertisement.
- teitoklien 3mo agoSo where's the advert link to his favourite supplement, search those phrases and there will be 200 different brands selling this same commodity so which one is paying him commission ? All? Hmmmmmmm People sharing their experience doesnt immediately mean AI-generated advert
- dns_snek 3mo agoI'm not taking either side but people don't need to directly link to their own store to benefit from increased awareness and "hype" in some product category - a rising tide lifts all boats. "Health" and more specifically the supplement industry is just a revolving door of fads. There's also survivorship bias, those who are obvious get banned quickly.
- iamacyborg 3mo agoIf my Instagram feed is anything to be believed, apparently we all need to be taking extra electrolytes in now.
- gdhkgdhkvff 3mo agoAll of those supplements are made with “magtein (r)” branded magnesium l-threonate. It all goes back to the same company and that company is the one that has supplied the “studies” that prove its effectiveness. And by “supplied” I mean that the literal vice president of the company’s research arm was an author on at least one of their studies but didn’t disclose his connections until a follow-up update to the study.
- Aurornis 3mo agoI don’t think it’s AI-generated, but it is repeating a lot of the points that are commonly repeated in supplement ads: The claim that Mg L-threonate is special originates from the person who patented it and sues anyone else who produces it. The claims that multiple doctors tried to push “sleeping pills” and they’re all bad is a common theme in communities that accept supplement research and claims unquestionably (like patented magnesium forms being superior) but have an innate distrust of doctors and medicine. I think this is just what happens if you read a lot of supplement forums and listen to the supplement podcasts a lot: You start developing elevated beliefs about the supplements, disdainful beliefs about doctors, and think you’re making superior choices having done your own research. That last point is some times critical for the supplements working, because if you believe you’re taking something special after having cracked the mystery by listening to 50 hours of Huberman or Rhonda Patrick (as examples) then the placebo effect will supercharge the result. Having belief that you’ve solved the problem makes the effects much stronger, especially for cases like this where the underlying problem was already pointed out as being stress related.
- dharmatech 3mo agoYes, magnesium has helped. For me, avoiding high histamine foods as well as histamine liberators had helped tremendously. The theory: Anti-histamines like Benadryl make you sleepy by blocking histamine. Well, instead of blocking the histamine, get rid of it in the first place by avoiding histamine foods (for example aged or preserved meats).
- Aurornis 3mo agoHistamine has different pools, functions, and receptors in the body. You’re reducing it all to one single level that goes up or down with diet but that’s not how it works. The brain histamine in your neurons is primarily synthesized from an amino acid. The histamine levels in neurons are different than the levels in mast cells. There are a lot of degrees of hand waving in your theory that don’t work.
- dharmatech 3mo agoHey Aurornis, I definitely haven't looked into the underlying models of histamine to see how things work. My observation is that, when I avoid histamine related foods, I sleep longer and fall asleep faster. The naive model is what led me to try that. But I totally acknowledge that there's likely way more at play under the hood. And I would like to know more about why this works! Or, at least why it works for me. Thank you for pointing out the complexity of the underlying mechanism.
- stronglikedan 3mo ago> Magnesium supplementation solved my sleep issues. Which type, if you don't mind my asking? And how long did it take before you felt the benefits? I took it for a month once (forget which type) an hour before bed and nothing changed.
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- dralley 3mo agoI've tried both Magnesium Glyconate and Magnesium L-Threonate and both have helped my sleep, Magnesium Citrate did very little. Which makes sense, the latter is known to not be absorbed very well. I've not noticed any significant difference between the other two.
- almost_usual 3mo agoMagnesium Glycinate worked well for me, take it an hour before bed or so. L-Threonate is too expensive, citrate gave me diarrhea. Much more deep sleep with Glycinate, some folks don’t like it because they feel too groggy after waking.
- petilon 3mo agoI find that Magnesium Glycinate works well for me. Magnesium Taurate also works.
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- rootusrootus 3mo ago> As a software developer, I am used to finding and fixing the underlying problem instead of relying on the quick fixes these doctors were offering me. Bro Science, HN Edition in one sentence. Nice.
- monster_truck 3mo agoIn Mice!!!!
- walr000s 3mo agoI am a brogrammer and I fix problems, bro. Magnesium for life.
- notduckrabbit 3mo agoI can also vouch for magnesium and the l-threonate variant. I take both before bed along with glycine powder, phosphatidyl-serine, l-theanine, l-tryptophan, ashwagandha, and saffron. No melatonin, no sleeping pills. Finally getting decent sleep for over a year now.
- dheera 3mo agoOn the other hand, reducing supplementation solved my sleep issues. I was taking Magnesium at night, and D+C+Fish+CoQ10+Iron+B12 in the morning. I don't know what the hell I was taking too much of, but I didn't have a good way to test it. I wish the body had some indicators.
- Aurornis 3mo ago> A special form of magnesium called magnesium L-threonate may be especially helpful for the brain because it appears to raise brain magnesium levels more effectively than some other forms. The study that made this claim was performed by the person who patented magnesium L-threonate and sells it at a high price. They go after any company that tries to sell cheap generic versions. The study was in mice and only showed small increases. Magnesium L-threonate doesn’t get absorbed into your body and go into your brain as a lot of the supplement podcasts and social media posts have been implying. Magnesium supplements like this dissociate into their components in your digestive tract. Magnesium and threonate get absorbed separately. So if magnesium L-threonate has some special properties, it would be because threonate does something to improve absorption or maybe has other effects in the body, but that’s a big if. Remember that the person claiming it works better has been making a lot of money off of that one study. If you have the cash and don’t mind paying the price then there’s no reason to switch. Many people find that magnesium glycinate, which is cheap, works just as well if not better. Glycine supplementation has been found independently to improve sleep, so taking a magnesium supplement that dissociates into magnesium and glycinate might be helpful in its own way. Magnesium builds up in the body. Some people are deficient and get strong effects from initially correcting the deficiency. Take high doses for too long and you can start accumulating enough to get into excessive magnesium range, which brings problems. That was previously a rare observation but it’s occurring more as people get into magnesium supplements from podcasts that encourage constant high dose protocols and repeat claims that everyone is severely deficient. Keep the dose moderate. > And they all wanted to put me on prescription sleeping pills. I said no to that. Sleeping pills can cause dependence, and they often treat the symptom rather than the underlying cause. As a software developer, I am used to finding and fixing the underlying problem instead of relying on the quick fixes these doctors were offering me. “Sleeping pills” could mean a lot of things. Few doctors will put a patient on long-term hypnotics with high dependence liability like Ambien in the 2020s. Most doctors are hesitant to prescribe them at all in the current environment, and when they do it’s short term. I would be very surprised if you went to multiple doctors who offered to prescribe you something like that as a new patient without a complicated history. Even the people with significant long term insomnia complain about how hard it is to get doctors to prescribe those. What they usually recommend is weaker medications with somnolence as a side effect, but the effect is weaker and doesn’t target pathways prone to addiction. Trazodone, doxepin, and a few others are common. These are not in the same category as what people think of as “sleeping pills” like Ambien that have higher dependence and addiction liability. They should not be dismissed together as one big category of drugs that are all bad for you.
- stouset 3mo ago100 the same. I tried magnesium before but didn’t see any effects after a week so threw in the towel. Then I read a comment by someone here that had the exact same symptoms as me (brain wouldn’t turn off), explained the underlying cause, suggested L-threonate, and explained that it’s a long-term deficiency and might take some time to build up sufficient reserves. I have had insomnia my entire life, since I was a child. I would go to bed around midnight and fall asleep at 3am, if I was lucky. I simply could not get my brain to disengage. Within a month of supplementation, I thought I noticed a bit of improvement. By two months, my insomnia was gone. Not better. Gone. I fall asleep within minutes now.
- Valakas_ 3mo agoBut how come you have magnesium deficiency in the first place, what are you not eating? People who need magnesium supplements still absorb magnesium, so the problem isn't absorption must be consumption.
- l8rlump 3mo agoFresh fruit and veg, nuts, and other fresh things. Thing is, modern farming and distribution practices have negatively affected the magnesium content. Drinking water also used to naturally contain more minerals but in many places is removed to cause less issues with plumbing and because “hard water” also makes it harder for soap to lather. Absorption also depends on vitamin D, so if you’re low in D, you won’t absorb as much magnesium. I have also read that magnesium is required by the body to make GABA and melatonin; supplements other commenters are mentioning.
- nialv7 3mo agoHoly Dunning–Kruger effect... As a software developer, I am a much better doctor than actual trained doctors, and am definitely immune to any placebo effects.
- LPisGood 3mo agoI don’t know anything about the specifics of this case. I do know there are lots of bad doctors. Doctors routinely make mistakes or overlook things, especially relatively trivial things like this. I don’t know what people think you learn in medical school that makes you an infallible source of health knowledge.
- petilon 3mo agoDoctors do overlook simple natural solutions. This is because of how evidence-based medicine works. The problem is not with evidence-based medicine itself, but with how the evidence is generated. The gold standard of medical evidence--a large, randomized, double-blind clinical trial--is extraordinarily expensive. In practice, much of this research is funded by private industry, which must have a reasonable expectation of earning a return on its investment. That naturally directs research toward treatments that can be patented, commercialized, and sold at a profit. This creates a structural blind spot. Many naturally occurring compounds cannot be patented in their natural form, making it difficult to justify the enormous cost of conducting the kind of trials that modern medicine demands. As a result, potentially useful natural therapies often remain under-studied, not because they have been proven ineffective, but because the economic incentives to investigate them are weak. This is the reason your doctor is much more likely prescribe Ambien CR than to suggest trying magnesium supplements.
- sadsach 3mo agoTrained doctors pushed opiates and benzos on me when they were very much not needed and in both cases led to dependancies and horrific withdrawals. I'm sure many others can chime in with their own similar experiences. Medical professionals are incredibly crucial to the wellbeing of society, but they have also been responsible for much suffering because they are human just like us.
- KellyCriterion 3mo agoDoes this need to be supplement or can I "just eat the right food"? Or is there a "maximum low level deficit" which you will never leave with just eating the right stuff? (Like VitamineD deficit - it can get so low, that you cant fix it by "just going more into the sun")
- stouset 3mo agoFrom my experience, it took about a month of 150mg magnesium supplementation per day to see effects, two months for my insomnia to go away entirely. Doing a quick search for magnesium-rich foods, it seems like it would take either an unsustainable focus on eating these foods to see results on a similar timeline or an extremely prolonged timeline to see similar results. That said, I am not a doctor or nutritionist. But my instinct is that you can get so far in the hole with a lifetime of magnesium deficiency that supplementation is by far the most time- and lifestyle-efficient to digging yourself out. Whether or not switching to magnesium-rich foods can sustain you being at correct levels will end up depending on what the size of the deficit was in the first place, but is probably worth a try.
- KellyCriterion 3mo agoThis one: -- take either an unsustainable focus on eating these foods to see results on a similar timeline -- Same as with VitD, seems like - at some point, your level is just that low that you cant restore it by "just eating right", you need more firepower
- leafmeal 3mo agoAka solar power
- deepsun 3mo agoNice ad!
- irenaeus 3mo agoGood for you. Personally I just take four zzzquil ultras every night.
- cogman10 3mo agoSpeaking of which, I think it's a great idea for everyone to get their vitamin levels checked. Your doctor is unlikely to order such a blood test unless you are in an extreme situation, but it's cheap (around $100) to get a pretty extensive panel done. I did it recently and found out basically all my b vitamins were in the toilet along with my vitamin D level. I started taking a b complex vitamin and D3 supplement and found immediate improvements to brain fog and exhaustion.
- ZeWaka 3mo agoInteresting, my doctor recommends doing a blood panel every 5 years.
- tcoff91 3mo agoA lot of doctors only want to do a more critical set like like triglycerides, c-reactive protein, cholesterol, stuff like that. I've never had a doctor proactively want to test things like b vitamin levels.
- ljf 3mo agoI find magnesium great - but I also like 5-HTP which I find also helps me sleep if I take it with a little food about 30 mins before bed. I find I feel a lot calmer when taking it - and it helps my ADHD - though I don't take it for too long, as I never like to take anything for too long.
- tcoff91 3mo agoNever taking a supplement for too long is great advice. Always cycle things in and out to avoid some potential for accumulating too much in the body. There are some horrifying case studies where people took like too much zinc, or copper, or some other thing for years and got really really messed up.
- ljf 3mo agoThe only thing I did take for a long time was Fenugreek seed extract, but recently read long term us is potentially toxic, so stopped that, but I really liked how that made me feel.
- throwaway0123_5 3mo ago> As a software developer, I am used to finding and fixing the underlying problem instead of relying on the quick fixes these doctors were offering me. I'm skeptical that avoidance of "relying on the quick fixes" generalizes to software developers as a whole :)
- eric__cartman 3mo agoTo be fair I care way more about the long term sustainability of my body than all the software I write regardless of how business critical or interesting it is. Or hardware for that matter, the "temporarily" zip tied CPU cooler fan says hi lol
- newsoftheday 3mo agoRetired software developer and my wife suggested the same and it worked. As a veteran I also believe it mostly fixed my sleep apnea episodes that I never sought formal diagnosis for before. We also do 5 mg melatonin now which helps. The magnesium oxide at bedtime is great though.
- trallnag 3mo agoSteve Jobs?
- _zachs 3mo agoDo you mind sharing which type you take (brand as well)? I tried magnesium glycinate supplements for two nights in a row and they kept me wide awake.
- scrollop 3mo agoIn some people they can do ths. Most magnesium doesn't cross the blood brain barrier, such as the one you tried. Try magnesium threonate, which does.
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- running101 3mo agoWhich form do you take? Have you tried different forms?
- petilon 3mo agoMagnesium glycinate and magnesium taurate work for me. I mainly rely on the former.
- tchock23 3mo agoI’ve read so much on magnesium and believe in the benefits of supplementation, but when I try it (regardless of type) I end up feeling devoid of energy and borderline depressed for three days after.
- dennis_jeeves2 3mo agoFYI here. I and my partner have tried various forms/brands of Mg, around 5 of them, and they have had zero effect on sleep. I have to wonder if all positive experiences here are either placebo or shills. Similar goes for the several supplements out there.
- tetec1 3mo agoIt does literally nothing for me.
- dennis_jeeves2 3mo agoFYI here. I and my partner have tried various forms/brands of Mg, around 5 of them, and they have had zero effect on sleep. I have to wonder if all positive experiences here are either placebo or shills. Similar goes for the several supplements out there.
- joveian 3mo agoI have severe sleep issues and have tried a bunch of sleep related supplements and medications. Although I do not have a dietary deficiency Magnesium might be the single most effective for me at keeping me asleep, although it does nothing to help me get to sleep and unfortunately the most effective dose taking magnesium alone is around 500mg which is enough to make me even more tired than usual the next day (so not really a good option on its own for me). I have found a combination of 250mg magnesium (carbonate or extended release oxide + citrate, which seem to work equivalently in my limited testing other than that the scoop I have for the carbonate powder is for 350mg so I might take somewhat more in that form) and 2.5mg baclofen to work better than either at higher doses alone (baclofen in higher amounts quickly stops working when taking it multiple days). Unfortunately sleep issues of any severity are often fairly random so it takes quite a while to have any confidence that something is actually helping even if it seems to at first; magnesium is one of the very few that seem to help me. I have recently been taking those with .3mg DR melatonin and 8-9mg diphenhydramine and it still has some effect the next day but much less than the higer doses of magnesium. The diphenhydramine is for my Non-24 and does not help me sleep but can improve my functioning some the next day when part of my body wants to be sleeping during the day (unfortunately like many things it seems to quickly lose effectiveness so I am going to try taking it less often). My thinking is that for long term use for sleep it is imporant that the medication or supplement be cleared from the body quickly, though too early and it may be hard to stay asleep. Sleep doctors have told me that waking up at the same time every day is most important. It doesn't look like the paper tried to differentiate between irregularity waking up and irregularity going to sleep but I suspect trying to wake up as close to the same time every day as you can reasonable manage is the best thing most people can do to improve their sleep quality (getting to sleep earlier some days if needed). My sense is that the most obvious part of what we consider to be sleep quality is actually waking up quality. Sleep deprivation affects memory in subtle and eventually not so subtle ways but not feeling awake seems in my experience to be based on how waking up happens and sleeping less when relatively well rested often has a positive effect on feeling awake (at least for a while, getting tired early is another effect of not sleeping enough). There is a particular thing that I notice maybe a couple of times a year that feels like rapidly cycling between being asleep and awake multiple times when I am waking up and I always feel much more awake the day it happens.
- skhr0680 3mo ago> As a software developer, I am used to finding and fixing the underlying problem instead of relying on the quick fixes these doctors were offering me. Your body isn't a piece of software. It can get easily get stuck in conditions that we aren't used to happening in computers. Eg, some injury causes inflammation and pain in a different part of your body, and even after the initial injury heals itself, the inflammation and pain in another part of your body continues of its own accord, and a "quick fix" of some NSAIDs can cure it within hours. I'm glad you are feeling better, but reading all that great stuff about magnesium could have primed you to think that supplementing it would work, therefore it worked. The placebo (and nocebo) effects are very powerful.
- Valakas_ 3mo agoAnd what is the root cause of your magnesium deficiency? How come you're not getting enough of it from food?
- ceplabs 3mo agoMagnesium also solved my restless leg syndrome at night. I take magnesium glycinate. I bought the powder and sprinkle some on my nighttime ice cream sundae a few hours before bed.
- wao0uuno 3mo ago>nighttime ice cream sundae I assume that’s a joke.
- acegopher 3mo agoMagnesium absolutely helps, and with our modern farmed diet, most people are deficient. It it part of over 300 chemical reactions in the body. I've also been seeing a lot of comments about melatonin. For those taking it, as long as you aren't on an SSRI or other seratonin regulator, take 500mg (up to 2g) of L-Tryptophan. It's one of 9 essential amino acids (of like 22) that we only get from food, and is the basis of seratonin. The chemical process in the body is Tryptophan -> 5HTP -> Seratonin -> Melatonin. Again, because of our modern diet, we don't get enough of these essential amino acids. Many people with mild anxiety have gotten off anti-anxiety meds by switching to just taking tryptophan. Anyway, it's helped me, but it gets a bad rap because "tryptophan makes you sleepy after Thanksgiving". Actually, no it doesn't, it's the amount of food you eat, honestly.
- lobocinza 3mo agoMagnesium, melatonin and none of the other supplements really worked for me. I microdose with an specific drug and it did help improve my sleep. I know it's not placebo because sometimes I forget to take it and it coincides in the sleep log with worse sleep. Anyway this drug isn't a panacea but a paliative while a treat the root cause. In my case it is a stress-related disorder and the real treatment isn't quick and easy, it requires life changes.
- aaarrm 3mo agoDo you take magnesium specifically at night, or does it not matter when you take it? I'm not sure if it's something your body stores for use when it needs it or if it just throws away what it doesn't need or use.
- petilon 3mo agoI take it at night. Unfortunately I haven't found a controlled release version of magnesium that works. I sometimes also take it during the day when I feel my muscles getting stiff, I get relief within 15 minutes.
- piyh 3mo ago>As a software developer My man has written too many JIRA story descriptions